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Fisking the Guardian's Village Idiot, Part 2

Continued from yesterday: http://monsterhunternation.com/2014/06/02/fisking-the-guardians-village-idiot-part-1/

As I was writing up that last fisk, some sane people were commenting on the Guardian article. Because Damien’s responses were so idiotic, this Fisk turned into a two parter, with this section being more of an explanation of my personal philosophies for dealing with morons and bullies. In the comments it was pointed out that pretty much everything Damien said related to me was a lie and Damien smells funny (okay, I added that last part). Here is what Damien had to say in his defense:

I think Correia did two things. The first was appeal for votes on the basis of a perceived liberal bias in the genre.

So he can read… Duh.

That was the basis of his campaign, a protest vote against liberal influence. That was divisive and did a lot to spark the backlash he’s still feeling.

Demonstrating that bias exists in a biased system: DIVISIVE.

Attacking, libeling, and sabotaging authors of diverse opinions to intimidate them into never speaking up against a rigid, homogenous groupthink… NOT DIVISIVE.

Got it!

Man, it must have really sucked for him the way their insane reaction validated everything I said. It would have been much nicer for everybody if I would have just kept my mouth shut like right wingers are supposed to, then they could continue slandering people in peace. How very divisive of me.

Secondly, and this is going to be much more damaging for him longterm, he allowed himself to become very closely associated to Vox Day in the process. Ultimately people do judge others by their associations, and both Larry Correia and John C Wright have made very public declarations of support for Day, that I fear both will deeply regret in the long run.

One of the tactics I’ve seen them take is conflating my views with those of Vox Day. It doesn’t matter that I’ve disagreed with the man, and I’ve debated with him several times, but they sure love linking me to Vox. See, unlike me, they can actually find a couple of comments from him that they can manage to spin up some outrage over, and everybody knows righteous indignation gives libprogs super powers.

You have an issue with something Vox said, take it up with him. I did, and I found the guy to be a capable debater, and many of the insinuations about him floating around the internet were grossly exaggerated. (says the man who the Guardian has insinuated hates women and wants to keep fiction the exclusive domain of a group he doesn’t technically belong to, so I simply can’t imagine the internet exaggerating somebody’s beliefs.)

The woman Vox insulted with the infamous half-savage comment also has a long history of inflammatory racial statements, and had been throwing insults at Vox for years, but somehow she always gets a pass in these discussions about “divisiveness” (remember what I said earlier about the Ctrl H search and replace to put Jew instead of White Man in their tweets? She’s totally the best). I don’t think she likes me much either, because she gave a speech a little while ago and condemned Mr. Free Speech At All Costs… I think that’s supposed to be me, but personally I took that as a compliment, because you know, that part where I actually believe in free speech and stuff.

So I recommend a short story by somebody who made a statement they found racist? DIVISIVE! And Damien will condemn me in his newspaper. Meanwhile, an approved author writes tons of negative things about an ethnic group that it is cool to hate? Totally not divisive, and Damien will plug her in his newspaper. Now me personally, I think the concept of race is increasingly irrelevant bullshit, and I judge all humans as individuals, but I’m the International Lord of Hate.

Public declaration of support? By that Damien means I failed to join his lynch mob? Sadly I couldn’t find my jack boots in time.

I enjoyed Vox’s story and I put it on my slate, that doesn’t make me his spokesman. The guy is capable of defending his own beliefs. My only public declarations of support have been in favor of free speech. That honest to God belief in free speech is one of the reasons my slate could include the author Damien’s SJW contingent hates more than any other. As a happy bonus, getting their Public Enemy Number One on the ballot caused so much SJW wailing and gnashing of teeth that it helped me accomplish my goal of exposing their bias. Anything that makes statists that rage-sputtery is fun for me.

Here’s the thing, I’m a whole lot more worried about censorship minded, career sabotaging, bullies becoming the final arbiters of acceptable than I am the writings of a contrarian who likes to get into arguments. Free speech especially includes the speech of people you disagree with. The answer to speech you don’t like is more speech, debate and argument and convincing the undecided, not purges, blacklisting, and smear campaigns designed to keep everyone in line. If somebody says something stupid, demonstrate why it is stupid.

For example, I’d never wish for Damien to quit writing for the Guardian, because his blathering is comedy gold.

Today it is acceptable to destroy somebody who said something you don’t like, or you can fire somebody from a job for giving money to a political campaign you don’t like, or you can run off an award show host because of what he might say in the future, or you can disinvite a fan guest of honor because of an anonymous accusation, or you can slander an editor putting together an anthology about diversity because his politics are “troubling” (even if it turns out he’d lived in the 3rd world much of his life). So what is going to be acceptable tomorrow?

If not now, when does it become okay to finally stand up to the perpetually outraged crowd and tell them no? To spineless weasels like Damien, the answer is never, because he’s a quisling.

Quests for purity always inevitably lead to purges, and we’ve already seen the beginnings of that with them turning against people on their ideological side who’ve grown weary of the constant outrage, so those people get a bunch of outrage until they are shamed, forced to apologize, and fall back in line. The nail that sticks up must be hammered down. If no nails are currently sticking up, they’ll pick one at random for sins real or imagined and start hammering that one instead.

My side jokingly call this the SJW Outrage of the Week, but sadly that isn’t really an exaggeration anymore. About once a week they fly off the handle and begin screeching about somebody, because they’re all about diversity, as long as everybody totally agrees with them.

I drew my line a long time ago. I honestly believe in free speech. Whether it is Vox or Jemsin, Matt Damon or Gary Sinise, Phil Robertson or Rupaul, their work and ideas should stand or fall on their own merits, and not some ideological narrative. Don’t like it? Too damned bad, because luckily in this country we still have the ability to say so.

I can’t speak for John Wright, and wouldn’t dare to anyway because he’s far more eloquent than I could ever be, but I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that he feels the same way I do about the dangers of writers being silenced. Let’s check: http://www.scifiwright.com/2014/06/the-evil-league-of-evil-is-given-pious-advice/

BOOM! Damn, Damien, how does it feel to get pimp slapped? John C. Wright just made you his bitch!

You know who else doesn’t like thought police? Several really famous big name writers who’ve contacted me to thank me for what I’ve done (one huge author in particular blew my mind). They’re even moderate or fairly liberal, however they’re sick of the self-righteous bullies and their endless outrage too. Only they can’t say anything in public, because they know if they do the SJWs would come for them next.

If they disagree they might get accused of homophobia in the Guardian or something…

EDIT! More of Damien’s hypocrisy was pointed out to me today. For a dude attacking me for being “closely associated” with somebody who said something controversial, he certainly has no problem in the very same article quoting an author who has publically supported NAMBLA. For those of you who don’t know, that’s the North American Man Boy Love Association, which is an organization for freaking PEDOPHILES… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nambla Look under the Associated Individuals section for Samuel Delany’s quotes about this organization. Now, if we’re looking for something offensive to “closely associate” with, I’m having a hard time thinking of anything lower than child molesters.

I’m quite serious about my suggestion by the way. I think if Correia wrote publicly to support the new diversity in the genre, and apologised for any perception he was campaigning against it, that might help him a lot.

Apologize for the perception? Apologize for being seen as an enemy of progress? That sounds suspiciously like the apologies Stalin used to have people sign right before he shipped them off to the gulag, so in response, Beria, er, I mean Damien, here are a few of my thoughts about what it really means when a libprog demands an apology.

Rule number one. Never apologize for something that shouldn’t be apologized for. Check out all the various firings, purges, boycotts, and cancellations. Apologizing for causing their outrage is you taking responsibility for their ignorance and inability to control their own emotions. Apologizing to the perpetually outraged means they own you. You have declared yourself guilty and vulnerable to their threats. It is like negotiating with terrorists. Give into their demands and you’re just encouraging them to blow something else up.

If I was the type of mushy headed fool that would issue an apology, it wouldn’t matter anyway, because as we’ve already seen my actual words and actions mean nothing compared to the agreed upon narrative, and that narrative is that I’m guilty of pretty much every vile thing they can think of. Luckily for me, I’m successful enough that these people aren’t particularly threatening, so I scrape them off my shoe and continue writing books.

Normal people only apologize for things that should be apologized for, like for example: “I’m sorry the Social Justice Warrior contingent of sci-fi is made up of a bunch of perpetually outraged adult children.” Suckers feel the need to apologize for their entire sex, their ancestors, and the melanin content of their skin.

This seems bug nuts to regular people, but just remember that when you’re dealing with a group of SJWs who see everything through a prism of shame, jealously, and guilt, they expect incomprehensible stuff like this.

Privilege Whale

I named my wireless router Privilege Whale.

So after some consideration of whether I should sign the witch hunters’ confession or not, I’m going to have to go with my final answer of, fuck off, Damien. Or bugger off, scamper? Hell, whatever it is the sane people of Britain would tell Damien to do.

Remember, we won’t know who missed out on shortlist places until after the awards. At that point Correia et al could find the response to them gets much, much worse even than when the story broke”

Wait… It is going to get even worse? So are more of you guys going to make up crazy outlandish shit about me on the internet? Because you know, that never gets old.

Is that supposed to be a threat, Damien? Because you are very bad at it. A proper threat is something like, “Keep talking shit about me, and maybe I’ll decide to do a Sad Puppies 3, only this time I’ll actually put in some effort.”

Here is another awesome Damien comment, after somebody asked him if he actually bothered to read the books of the authors he criticized:

Which writers do you mean? My piece doesn’t really criticise anyone? So who do you mean?”

Nobody could possibly be that obtuse. But to be fair, I wouldn’t say criticize, so much as much as insinuate racism and misogyny in a completely chicken shit fashion, but hey, whatever. His column must have been about the OTHER conservative author who came up with and promoted a successful internet campaign that got a whole bunch of Hugo nominations, that caused allegations of ballot stuffing and outraged all the Social Justice Warriors… Holy shit. Does that mean there’s MORE OF US?!

Seriously, Guardian, I really hope you’re not actually paying this loser because you’re wasting your pounds or euros or WTF ever it is you use for money now. Honestly, you could hire a random hobo and get better columns written (from my extensive watching of Top Gear I believe you blokes call them tramps).

Thus far Damien has been an amusing annoyance, but then a fan had to go and send this to me. This comment was posted on Twitter, long after he’d posted his article, and he was catching flack for just making shit up. This was the first time Damien actually made me angry.

  1. Damien Walter‏@damiengwalterMay 30

Can anyone help identify times Larry Correia has “responded poorly” to diversity in genre? http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2014/may/30/science-fiction-real-life-war-worlds#comment-36357742 … Seriously.

So of all Damien’s stupid shit thus far, why did that actually get an emotional response out of me? Basically, it is because I can’t believe anybody SUCKS THAT MUCH AT THEIR JOB.

I mean really, Damien, you’ve written about me repeatedly now, making up all sorts of crap while the actual evidence pointed to the contrary, and after being called on it you have to CROWD SOURCE YOUR WITCH HUNT? Holy shit, Damien, you are shockingly unsuited for this. Aren’t journalists supposed to do research first? I know that journalism is the clown college of writing, but damn that is pathetic… On second thought, I retract that comment, because clowns provide a useful service, and I can’t imagine anybody ever inviting Damien Walter to a birthday party.

So—not being racist/misogynist/homophobic—I was curious to see what damning evidence his legion of fan would come up with to condemn me. They’ve got thousands of political posts to choose from… Somebody didn’t like that I’d been a CCW instructor, and how I’d said that I’d taught hundreds of women to shoot rapists, yet these women hadn’t all LITERALLY shot hundreds of rapists, ergo I was a failure and a liar…

Holy shit.

My response to that, have you ever gone fishing? Did you catch all the fish?

They then went on to explain how my teaching self-defense to women proved I thought women were weak, and that my efforts did nothing to stop date rape, or rape within marriage, and thus showed I didn’t understand the issue. Wow. You know, I’ve got fire extinguishers around the house, but they are pretty useless against thousand acre forest fires, so I’m obviously pro-arson, and should throw all my fire extinguishers away.

Then there was a related spin off thread where various white suburbanite progs explained how I’m really a WHITE Hispanic, and as an added bonus, libertarian Sarah Hoyt is a fascist. You really can’t make this stuff up.

So because Damien’s readers sucked at finding any actual evidence of hatemongery from my thousands of political posts, I put out a call for my readership to help him find something damning for his next inevitable column about me. As usual, the Monster Hunter Nation was super helpful:

  1. Larry Correia grows an awesome murder hobo beard. Beards are scary.
  2. Larry Correia accused Damien of having a witch hunt, which is insensitive to witches.
  3. Larry Correia is a pretty good miniature painter. Hitler was also a painter.

Judging by the journalistic integrity of Damien’s previous columns, I’m sure he’ll be able to put together another article or two with that.

One funny note about my super helpful fans over the last few days, Damien or his readers dismissed some of my defenders on Twitter because they were “Straight White Males”… Turns out on some of these guys they were wrong on race or orientation, but Damien’s is the inclusive side, because obviously all minorities’ beliefs are color coded for liberal convenience.

Here is another Damien gem from the comments:

I have no clear idea what you mean by shunning or writing people out of the genre.

Let’s see, that’s got to be a lie, because he can’t be that stupid, especially as he’s participated in the shunning.

I assume you’re bringing in baggage from other discussions.

He says as he brings in every unrelated bigoted thing that has ever happened in the history of fiction and lays it at my feet.

We have a genre growing ever more diverse, and a small clique of reactionaries behaving very poorly in response to that.

He makes my campaign about something else, and then assigns his opponents absurd opinions they don’t actually hold.

And doing immense damage to their own careers in the process.

Says the doofus who supposedly has a government grant to write a novel, to the guy with more paying work than he knows what to do with.

Sad for everyone involved.

Not really. I’m rather enjoying this. The more the Damiens of the world lie and fret, the more it proves my point.

But that’s it for his idiocy today. Now I want to delve into his accusations that my exposing left wing bias was really some sort of white male war against diversity all along. Anybody who has actually read any of my books knows that is a really stupid hypothesis.

While I was getting slandered by Damien for things I never said about how writers shouldn’t write diverse characters, I had a bestselling novel out where the big heroic pivotal sacrifice moment of the story was performed by a bisexual. However, I gave that character that particular trait because it made the character more interesting, and not for the correct reason of checking off mandatory SJW boxes, which is apparently bad.

This is the same book where I got into racial segregation in the 1930s, and had a black character become a folk hero a couple scenes after he wasn’t allowed to eat in the same room as the white characters. Oh, yeah, that’s one of the two books where I got into democrat icon FDR’s propensity for throwing diverse people into concentration camps. Shoot. I forgot. Your side declared that I’m a white guy who only writes white men with busty blonde women throwing themselves on white penises.

By the way, that’s from the 2nd book of the trilogy, with the 3rd book being the controversial nomination. This is kind of funny since the hero of the series is a teenage girl, and I’ve got characters who are Chinese, Japanese, Indian, African, Pacific Islander, Filipino, British, French, Russian, the world’s surliest German, and Americans ranging from rich white Ivy Leaguer to poor Irish roughneck to southern black, all in a story where I delve into the racism, segregation, and eugenics of the 1930s. The most powerful man in the world is Japanese, and the smartest was Indian. J. Edgar Hoover was one of the antagonists. I hit everything from Wounded Knee to the Bonus Army.

Hell, if you guys didn’t know I was one of those ultra-evil libertarians who want the government to leave everybody alone equally, somebody might accidently like this book. But I wouldn’t know, since even with all the controversy most of the SJW “reviews” I’ve seen have consisted of skimming the back cover blurb before launching into accusations about how I want to drag homosexuals to death behind my pickup truck.

But that’s just me personally, looking at Damien’s primary argument from the big picture view, Sad Puppies being some sort of anti-diversity campaign is even stupider. It requires the belief that true diversity is only skin deep. It means true diversity is always agreeing with the every absurd complaint of the perpetually outraged. It requires the belief that to truly represent the diversity of the entire planet, you’ve got to be in lockstep with a bunch of left wing pseudo-intellectual crybabies from the first world.

Anybody with a few functioning brain cells to rub together knows that’s crap. Those morons aren’t even the majority in the west, let alone Bangladesh or Budapest.

While he was condemning the history of genre fiction, I want you to think about the absurd hubris in this statement of Damien’s:

We live in a world of seven billion human beings, whose culture has not been reflected or rewarded in ‘the mainstream’. Science fiction – from cult novels that reach a few thousand readers, to blockbuster movies and video games that dominate contemporary culture – has the potential to talk across every remaining boundary in our modern world. That makes it, in my opinion, potentially the most important cultural form of the 21st century. To claim that potential, it cannot afford to give way to the petulant protests of boys who do not like to share their toys

At least I have toys to share.

Who the fuck do you think you are, Damien, deciding what is suitable for the whole world? You’re a pathetic little worm of no accomplishment who makes his living critiquing people who actually create things. Where do you get off determining what are acceptable thoughts to represent all of humanity?

Check your privilege, motherfucker.

You got it backwards. A novelist’s job is to tell a story, not reflect or reward or whatever pretentious nonsense you’re spewing. Get off your high horse. We answer to them. We create work, and then the readers are going to decide what reflects them, not some unctuous little shit stain like you, and the reward is when those individuals decide they like the author enough to pay them. They’re seven billion individuals, you tool, not color coded stereotypes for you to speak for. Of them, a couple billion would stone you to death on principle, and most of the rest would wonder why you are such a worthless sack of crap.

The novelist’s job is to tell a story. Your job is to be a useless leech. Now get back to work. All those lies aren’t going to manufacture themselves.

 

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NR Pax
2 years 2 months ago

*sniff* That is a thing of beauty to read on night shift. Sure, it won’t make a dent on his candy-coated world view but that isn’t the point.

Jusuchin (Military Otaku)
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2 years 2 months ago

This, and John Wright’s post. And the fact I managed to shift my day off to tomorrow and Wednesday.

My mind cannot comprehend this much awesome…

Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
2 years 2 months ago

Whatever Damien is trying to accomplish by his writing… he’s failing at it. Badly. The column of his is boring, bland, grey mush. Where’s the bite of Oscar Wilde, the snap of Dorothy Parker, or even the rabid gila monster on acid craziness of Hunter S Thompson?

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dranilus
2 years 2 months ago
“Whatever Damien is trying to accomplish by his writing… he’s failing at it. Badly.” No, he isn’t. In order to understand your error, you have to understand what he’s trying to accomplish, and in order to do that you need understanding of his forum. You see, The Guardian( also known as The Grauniad, especially in the more libertarian minded UK part of the blogosphere) is the last bastion of Fabianism.This is the paper that actually gives Polly Toynbee column space.It’s writers are there to preach to the choir and convince them that The Revolution carries on apace and the proletariate… Read more »
Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
2 years 2 months ago

In other words, kind of a LARP in print…

Guest
2 years 2 months ago

Lightning bolt!!! 😀

http://youtu.be/j_ekugPKqFw

Guest
2 years 2 months ago

Whoops, sorry, I thought it would just be a URL, not embed in the page. My bad. :-/

Synova
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Synova
2 years 2 months ago

You know… I’ll bet that was a whole lot of fun… in person. On video?

It’s sort of like the difference between reading a romance novel and reading a romance novel *out loud*.

cspschofield
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2 years 2 months ago
You’re missing the point of the first post. It’s isn’t a failure of content, it’s a failure of style. There was a time when the Progressive/Radical Intellectuals had writers who could persuade because they wrote well. Steinbeck is something of a political imbecile, but it is nearly impossible to read THE GRAPES OF WRATH without sympathizing with his views, at least briefly. Damien may hit all his faith’s talking points spot on, but his writing is so lifeless that if he wrote that the sun would rise tomorrow, I would be inclined to check rather than take his word. Such… Read more »
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Ad Astra
2 years 1 month ago
Because Larry and many of us are gamers I thought it interesting that Wizards of the Coast makers of Dungeons& Dragons have made a decision in they’re just released 5th edition “You can play a male or female character without gaining any special benefits or hindrances. Think about how your character does or does not conform to the broader culture’s expectations of sex, gender, and sexual behavior. For example, a male drow cleric defies the traditional gender divisions of drow society, which could be a reason for your character to leave that society and come to the surface. You don’t… Read more »
M. Kupari
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M. Kupari
2 years 2 months ago

Wow. That was straight-up hobophobic. Tsk.

^_^

perlhaqr
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perlhaqr
2 years 2 months ago

*snerk*

Kristophr
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Kristophr
2 years 2 months ago

Hobo, the other white meat. Goes well with Valu-rite vodka.

salgak
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2 years 2 months ago

I generally have **mine** with a fine wine. Night Train Express, or a vintage Boone’s Farm Strawberry Hill (and do they still make that ??)

Achillea
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2 years 2 months ago

They do indeed still make Strawberry Hill. I currently have 3 bottles in my cabinet (right next to the Arbor Mist), low brow that I am.

CombatMissionary
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CombatMissionary
2 years 2 months ago

Dried hobo is probably better than the canned meat product you get at the dollar store when you’re one socioeconomic rung above the hobos. It’s like pink slime, but heavily salted and mixed with fat, then cooked in the can. Spreads easily on crackers. But not for the weak of stomach.

On the plus side, I don’t think potted meat product ever goes bad on its own. Germs avoid it. If you can digest this, you can digest ANYTHING.

Guest
2 years 2 months ago

“Soylent Hobo is people!!!!f”

CombatMissionary
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CombatMissionary
2 years 2 months ago

Remember, kids, hobos are people too.

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Moron. And I mean that in the nicest way.

Guest
2 years 2 months ago

Moron. And I meant that when I cut, I slice like a F*ing hammer.

physicsgeeky
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physicsgeeky
2 years 2 months ago

What doesn’t go well with Valu-Rite? Just sayin’.

Jordan S. Bassior
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Jordan S. Bassior
2 years 2 months ago

We hobos prefer to be called “persons of boxcars.”

Pugmak
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Pugmak
2 years 2 months ago

He who lives in cardboard boxes shouldn’t throw water balloons.

jselvy
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jselvy
2 years 1 month ago

Gentlemen of the Road

Jonna
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Jonna
2 years 2 months ago

The only thing that would make this better is if both you and John Wright were at a convention reading these out loud….it would be so womderful to be able to cheer at certain points…..thank you.

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NR Pax
2 years 2 months ago

I’d take it a step farther and have them read as new audiobooks by Bronson Pinchot.

Pat
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Pat
2 years 2 months ago

I’d pay money to see Larry at GenCon do a reading of these posts!

Rich
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Rich
2 years 2 months ago

*slowclap*

RS
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RS
2 years 2 months ago

Poor Damien. Two epic slapdowns in one day. He doesn’t deserve the attention but it sure is fun to read what you and John have to say. So much fun…

Jared Anders
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Jared Anders
2 years 2 months ago
Honestly, I think he’s just deluded himself into thinking he actually knows most of the movers and shakers of the genre (and to be fair he does seem to know a lot of published authors) and therefore if he doesn’t know you obviously you aren’t more than a minnow in the field. That and he’s deluded himself that he can actually write. I gave him a fair shake. I read four or five of the stories he’s put up on his own website as examples of his sterling work. I kid you not, I literally had to take a shower… Read more »
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Chago 42
2 years 2 months ago

Jared’s roommate here. He wasn’t kidding. At least now I know why the shower came on at 2340 hours.

Better than clamps isn’t a high bar. Jared having me read the first page of clamps then the first page of MHI is why I’m here.

Jared’s reaction makes me uneasy to give Damien a shot.

Wait! Does this mean I get to tell him he makes me feel unsafe, thus winning the interwebs forever?

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

Wait! Does this mean I get to tell him he makes me feel unsafe, thus winning the interwebs forever?

Do it!

If he’s ever a guest at a con, contact the concom and tell them how unsafe he makes you feel, and that you’re not going.

Feel free to leave out that you weren’t going to go anyway. That doesn’t matter. 🙂

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

My cat left something in the litter box that was still better writing than anything Clamps has cranked out.

Guest
2 years 2 months ago

And the cat poo won’t try to stalk Asian women on the Net, so it’s less creepy.

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

There is that as well.

Rhiain
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Rhiain
2 years 2 months ago

“…and therefore if he doesn’t know you obviously you aren’t more than a minnow in the field.”

In which case, his advocacy for “diversity” in scifi is self-defeating in the space of a few newspaper columns.

CombatMissionary
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CombatMissionary
2 years 2 months ago

At first I thought you had written, “…better than the Clap.” My mistake. 😀

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

Yeah, I think we’re near universal in agreement that having the clap would be better than reading Clamps.

Or Damien, apparently.

CombatMissionary
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CombatMissionary
2 years 2 months ago

Makes me wonder if the ancient treatment that is the namesake for the Clap wouldn’t be a good initial treatment for correcting Leftist Worldview Syndrome. “Here, just lay it on the table. Hey, what’s that over there…?”

Sean
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Sean
2 years 2 months ago

The Clap is what I call clamps anyway

SirBrass
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SirBrass
2 years 2 months ago

What is “Clamps”? I tried to google it, and the disambiguation of it on wikipedia didn’t yield anything. Closest was CLAMP (the manga ka group).

Kristophr
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Kristophr
2 years 2 months ago

Scalzi. The SWFA yoyo that is leading the hate-fest against Vox Day.

Guest
2 years 2 months ago

Clamps/Alauda/Yamamanana/Andrew Marston: many screennames, one big DBag/creepy Internet stalker.

This is the most recent time he showed up here, using the Alauda screenname: http://monsterhunternation.com/2013/12/05/a-book-i-need-to-read/

Kristophr
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Kristophr
2 years 2 months ago

Thanx for the correction, Dave. Scalzi is the other guy who also hates Vox.

Synova
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Synova
2 years 2 months ago

NOT Scalzi, right? I’d think it would be very important not to imply that if it’s not true.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik
2 years 2 months ago

He’s also commented at Tor.com, as Alauda.

dyingearth
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dyingearth
2 years 2 months ago

Somehow I don’t see Andrew Marston, aka Clamps is getting banned in tor.com as he’s banned from almost everywhere.

FrancisT
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FrancisT
2 years 2 months ago

I’m going to have to go with my final answer of, fuck off, Damien. Or bugger off, scamper? Hell, whatever it is the sane people of Britain would tell Damien to do.

As an Englishman I’d go with: Damein you can fucking well bugger off, you utter toss pot.

but bloody well fuck off you wanker would also work as would other variants on the theme

cspschofield
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2 years 2 months ago

I’ve always been partial to a dismissal from THE BUTTERFLY KID; “Oh go paint yourself purple and moo.”

Pugmak
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Pugmak
2 years 2 months ago

Does that translate into Aussie as “sod off, swampy!”

I’m trying to learn me some foreign type englishes.

AndrewV
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AndrewV
2 years 2 months ago

Holy crap. That was awesome.

MattB
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MattB
2 years 2 months ago

The correct response (from a Commonwealth reader) is to tell the smarmy little git to sod off!

Ryan
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2 years 2 months ago

Damn. Just … Damn. Between this and Wright’s post, I think my faith in SFF has been restored. It’s nice to know there are authors in the genre who aren’t complete blithering idiots too busy drinking their own ink to bother writing decent stories.

Always good to know who I should throw my money at.

Tokyo Tengu
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2 years 2 months ago

I must admit I was clapping and cheering towards the end of that. Wheeeee that was fun!

Alan S.
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Alan S.
2 years 2 months ago

Aha, there’s the perfect term for the SJW’s.

Perpetually Outraged -Crickets- (of the Aesop Ant-and-Cricket variety). “POCs”.

More ‘wordable’ than SJW. And the few that -aren’t- crickets would be “POs”, which, naturally, they’d misinterpret and take their outrage to eleventy over.

Rob Crawford
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Rob Crawford
2 years 2 months ago

Were you aware they have “reimagined” Aesop’s fable to make the ant the villain? Selfish ants, unwilling to share…

Synova
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Synova
2 years 2 months ago

I was in a “learning store” when I was homeschooling my kids and overheard a young teacher talking about how the old fables were bad and how much better it was to change them to make the moral of the story, not to think ahead and work hard, but that the ants were supposed to share.

Alan S.
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Alan S.
2 years 2 months ago

Well, then they’re just self-identifying.

It’s the best type of label.

Jason Fischer
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2 years 2 months ago

This is perfect.
(Standing ovation)

Doug
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Doug
2 years 2 months ago

I find it interesting that I didn’t even realize that any character in Spellbound was bisexual! Now I’ll have to go back to see if I can figure out who that character is–not because I want the message, but so I can figure out what clues I missed!

tariencole
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2 years 2 months ago

That would be Whisper, the French Lady who gave Faye the super-boost to kill the demon. If I’m right.

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

She mentions that she can flirt with girls equally as well as guys.

The difference is, Larry didn’t beat you over the head with her sexual orientation, which is how it should be.

Albert
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Albert
2 years 2 months ago

Pretty sure that according to the POCs, if your LGEJOSADHWEKAJFWTFBBQ character doesn’t have more, better, hotting, and more titillating sex than the Patriarchy!, your LGEJOSADHWEKAJFWTFBBQ character doesn’t count as a real one.

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

Pretty much.

In Raymond Feist’s Krondor books, he has a couple of gay characters apparently. However, you can read the entire series and never know it, because they don’t make it an issue, so no one really pays attention.

Honestly, I think about several of my friends who are gay, and most of them wouldn’t come across as “gay” unless you knew enough of their personal life.

Of course, the two gay guys that came out of our senior class, we had them pegged for years before they apparently knew they were gay. Funny how that works.

Wraith
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Wraith
2 years 2 months ago

Outside of “WTFBBQ,” I’ll give Albert a dollar if he can tell us what that acronym stands for. I figured out “Lesbian, Gay, Experimenting…” and then it just got weird.

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

I figured his cat sat on the keyboard, and it looked close enough.

Albert
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Albert
2 years 2 months ago

Your guess is as good as mine. I haven’t managed to follow the official Alphabet Soup Of I’m Totally A Minority Because Of What I’m Doing With My Junk since it expanded from LGBT.

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

There is QUILTBAG as well, that I can only remember because of it being wordlike.

Don’t ask me to translate it though. I can’t keep that crap straight.

Rubberduckyofdoom
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Rubberduckyofdoom
2 years 2 months ago

I was almost ready to bet money you made it up, Albert, especially with the BBQ on the end, but wouldn’t have risked it due to the creeping feeling up my spine that it might be legit, seeing how the lefties modify or reinvent their acronyms and messages on an almost daily basis…

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

It does get a might confusing trying to keep up.

Albert
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Albert
2 years 2 months ago

The proper term is now TMI-nority. Describes anyone who is only a minority because they spam everyone with TMI. (Only way for a White Male to prove he’s not evil.)

Leads to TMI-off, being how Wiscon attendees establish the pecking order of who is the minority-est.

Grayson
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2 years 2 months ago

Mr Correia – that was, in my considered opinion, one of the most magnificent ass-kickings in the history of literature, that I have ever read.
May you forever drink cold and piss hot.

Cheers.

P.S. Before I forget again, is there even the slightest possibility that you might attend V-Con 39, this October 3rd to 5th, in the greater Vancouver area? This year’s theme is “Military Might”, which means there’s a good chance of some liberal-progressivist whiners showing up for a bitch session…. 😀

brodder
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2 years 2 months ago

The dwarf couldn’t have done better. Not without verbally causing bodily trauma that is. I don’t mince words. I hammer that nail that needs nailed. Screw the thumbs in the way. Larry makes me look like a stuttering gnome in comparison. Well done ILOH. Well DONE!

Chris
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Chris
2 years 2 months ago

*Starts slow clap*
*Clap*
*Clap*
*Clap*

Mike in Seattle
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Mike in Seattle
2 years 2 months ago

That! Was very Divisive. And Intolerant. And Hatey. And Angeristic writing that made my pet marmoset squeal in terror. Or perhaps that was the undead cannibalistic Voles that set him off. Poor thing. Always so twitchy. Kinda like Daimen having his special echo chamber of RightThink pierced by someone who doesn’t adhere to proprietary.

Pity the man, for just as cockroaches flee light those who cannot abide disagreement scramble and scurry to destroy and reject impure thought, genuflecting to their gods of Correctness in hope of accolades and inclusion.

Its kinda sad when you think about it.

greylocke100Mark
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2 years 2 months ago

I sincerely hope Damian read this and tries to respond. I really REALLY want him to try to respond. And make an even greater fool of himself.

Sean
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Sean
2 years 2 months ago

Nicely done Larry. I wonder if we could arrange an introduction for Damien. To Vlad Tepes? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
What? What are you all looking at me like that for?

suburbanbanshee
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2 years 2 months ago

Vlad likes his blood to have taste.

Sean
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Sean
2 years 2 months ago

piffle., I don’t expect Vlad to drink him. Stake him for being an insulting little git of an example of the result of a dalliance between a drunken tavern wench and a passing albino rhino, yes. Drink him? No, not even Vlad would stoop that low.

Grayson
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Grayson
2 years 2 months ago

I personally would like to see Damien personally introduced to Agent Franks.
With as many cameras recording the scene as possible.
And then show the result on the Six O’Clock International News… 😀

greylocke100
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2 years 2 months ago

I really, REALLY Want Damian to read this and TRY to respond. Really I do.

xdpaul
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xdpaul
2 years 2 months ago

Diminion couldn’t read this if he wanted to. This is a J-school grad we are talking about and Larry has written above a 5th grade vocabulary. Elitist.

Apollo
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Apollo
2 years 2 months ago
After the comment from that little twerp about how this was going to do irreparable damage to your career, I went and bought a copy of Dead Six, just because fuck that guy. I mean, I was going to buy it anyway, because Ive already bought all the Monster Hunters and Grimnoirs and loved them, but still, fuck that guy. Im sick to death of twats like that telling people who dont share the same crazy masochistic beliefs that they are evil, and trying to bully anyone who disagrees by threatening their careers. Enough – Im going out of my… Read more »
Pat
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Pat
2 years 2 months ago

Nemesis raised the bar again. Got get the e-ARC from Baen, its worth the $$. Then buy the real published release because we all apparently just like throwing our hard earned money at Larry. 😉

Ad Astra
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Ad Astra
2 years 2 months ago

“Which writers do you mean? My piece doesn’t really criticise anyone? So who do you mean?”

So anybody else see a problem with this? Not the outright falsehood, but does that middle sentence even make sense as a question? This guy writes for a major national newspaper and he doesn’t know a question mark from a period. Thats not even an easy typo to make, he had to make the physical effort to hold down the shift key.

SPQR
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2 years 2 months ago

The typo was caused by his cowardice being triggered by his cowardice.

Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
2 years 2 months ago

And what in the wild, wild world of sports is with the whales?

lonejanitor
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lonejanitor
2 years 2 months ago

Agreed. I was expecting manatees.

Mike in Seattle
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2 years 2 months ago

Mongo only pawn… in game of life.

Patrick Chester
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Patrick Chester
2 years 2 months ago

“There is no overkill, there is only ‘Open Fire’ and ‘Reload’.”

Kristophr
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Kristophr
2 years 2 months ago

There is no overkill, only under-targeting.

laclongquan
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laclongquan
2 years 2 months ago

It’s been at least half a year since I read a foaming-at-mouth righteous rant like this. It’s a thing of beauty :sniff:

Lauren
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2 years 2 months ago

You don’t read Larry’s blog much, do you? 🙂

Dan Lane
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Dan Lane
2 years 2 months ago

Might be just the thing to remedy. Larry writes good fiction, and his fskings of the illiterati (those who want to kill all SFF, maybe all reading, forever- if it’s not their super special favorite kind), all of them, are well worth the read.

laclongquan
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laclongquan
2 years 2 months ago

Note the qualifier “foaming-at-mouth”. I read rants everyday. And yes, even this blog, because it’s always fun to read rants.

Guest
2 years 2 months ago
“Secondly, and this is going to be much more damaging for him longterm, he allowed himself to become very closely associated to Vox Day in the process. Ultimately people do judge others by their associations, and both Larry Correia and John C Wright have made very public declarations of support for Day, that I fear both will deeply regret in the long run.” This is the perfect example of Concern Trolling. “I really am worried about you, you should do what I say and things will all be better”. Or the classic advice from Liberals to Republicans about how to… Read more »
Scuzza Man (@ScuzzaMan)
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2 years 2 months ago
“Who the fuck do you think you are, Damien, deciding what is suitable for the whole world? You’re a pathetic little worm of no accomplishment who makes his living critiquing people who actually create things. Where do you get off determining what are acceptable thoughts to represent all of humanity? Check your privilege, motherfucker.” Ironically, given Scalzi’s Heinlein abuse, this reminded me strongly of one of Heinlein’s pithy Jubal Harshaw sayings. It went like this: “Critics create nothing and thereby feel themselves qualified to judge the works of creative people. There is logic in this; they hate all creative people… Read more »
Hugo
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Hugo
2 years 2 months ago

Much as I enjoy your takedowns, can I humbly suggest that “Social Justice Warrior” is too good for these people? To them, violence is just icky and physical bravery a thoroughly outmoded gender-biased concept, y’know? Plus it insults real warriors.

Alan
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Alan
2 years 2 months ago

I believe “Social Justice Whiner” is the recognized alternative…

Patrick Chester
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Patrick Chester
2 years 2 months ago

Well, there’s a variant of SJW that stands for:

“Social Justice Whiner

Jonathan
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Jonathan
2 years 2 months ago

I like how Damien says there is no shunning while warning of severe repercussions should Larry and others fail to apologize for perceived offenses. The man employs no logic.

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

Logic requires a fully functional brain, and I haven’t seen any evidence that Damien Walter has one.

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Dyrewulf
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2 years 2 months ago

‘awesome murder hobo beard’ should be Mosh Pitt’s next band 🙂

Grayson
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Grayson
2 years 2 months ago

I second the motion.

NateM
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NateM
2 years 2 months ago

“Somebody didn’t like that I’d been a CCW instructor, and how I’d said that I’d taught hundreds of women to shoot rapists, yet these women hadn’t all LITERALLY shot hundreds of rapists, ergo I was a failure and a liar…”

Actually Larry did the shooting, and it looked something like This (Warning NSFW)

thewriterinblack
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2 years 2 months ago

404 error.

Guest
2 years 2 months ago

Fixed URL. There was an extra http in there: http://player

thewriterinblack
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2 years 2 months ago

Oh, I’ve seen that one before.

pavepusher
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2 years 2 months ago

W. T, F?!?!

I can not un-see that. Damnit.

Albert
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Albert
2 years 2 months ago

What, it exceeded your daily recommended allowance of male junk? Or just male pain?

(My own thought was, why are these guys running _towards_ Robocop, again?)

Wes S.
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Wes S.
2 years 2 months ago

The whole “crowd-sourced witch-hunt” section had me ROFLing. Gawd, what a pathetic loser. You’d think he would have done at least a modicum of research on his target BEFORE attacking them.

But then again, liberals like Damien always have confused their emotions and opinions with objective facts, haven’t they?

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

It seems there’s a reason why Damien never linked to anything Larry actually said.

It’s because he never bothered to read anything Larry actually said. So now he’s getting called out about it, and so he’s trying to save himself from having to read anything Larry said by getting other people to do it for him.

Absolutely pathetic for a so-called journalist. (Yes, I know he’s not a journalist by any means, but that’s the perception some misguided souls will have of him.)

Kristophr
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Kristophr
2 years 2 months ago

Damian does not realize that crowd-sourcing this will a career disaster for him.

The more google-ific this spat gets, the more it will hurt him when a future employer does a search on his name.

saintonge235
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2 years 2 months ago

Kristophr, I wouldn’t bet too much on Damien hurting his career with this stuff. For the kind of employer he’d want to work for, it may actually help.

jSinSaTx
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jSinSaTx
2 years 2 months ago

Read a few times following along with this topic where you comment that you have debated/disagreed with Vox Day. Been a long time reader on his site and have done a cursory google search and have not seen what you are referring to. Would be very interested in looking at the issue that was under discussion.

Have really enjoyed your series.

Kenton Kilgore
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2 years 2 months ago

“Damien vs. Larry” is the 2014 remake of “Bambi Meets Godzilla.” How’s that working out for you, Damien?

T.L. Knighton
Guest
2 years 2 months ago

You know, I think Bambi got off easy compared to Damien. 🙂

Skip
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Skip
2 years 2 months ago

And among the nominees for the best related work Hugo in 2015 are the bitch-slaps delivered to Damien Walters….

Hey, if they can nominate an acceptance speech, this is at least as relevant.

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

We have a candidate for Sad Puppies 3!

natewinchester
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2 years 2 months ago
*reads the twitter* …. TROLL MODE ACTIVATED! I have never been able to get past DW’s claim to have taught 100s of students how to write to consider anything else. Have there been 100s of books written by his alumnae? Or, if not, was the prob with his tuition or his tactics? Either way it struck me as a somewhat un-nuanced approach to prose. I mean it deliberately elides complex issues like dealing with editors, handling fans, facing printer problems, reprints, where knowing how to write is useless. IE he doesn’t understand the issues at all. Or the way publishers… Read more »
Kristophr
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Kristophr
2 years 2 months ago

The more he spazes, the higher this fight’s google rank gets.

Larry is feeding him rope he can use to extinguish his own journalism career.

Guest
2 years 2 months ago

Y’know what’s really hilarious? Only Cora Buhlert & that legionseagle tool actually replied to the tweet with a serious answer. Every other tweet was someone snarking the crap out of him. 😀

dyingearth
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dyingearth
2 years 2 months ago

I don’t think Cora have figure out that particular tweet thread have been takeover by Monster Hunter Nation.

natewinchester
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2 years 2 months ago

I saw those.

They weren’t even real answers.

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

Somebody didn’t like that I’d been a CCW instructor, and how I’d said that I’d taught hundreds of women to shoot rapists, yet these women hadn’t all LITERALLY shot hundreds of rapists, ergo I was a failure and a liar…

Of course that’s how it works.

I mean, I wasn’t really a Navy Corpsman because I never had to treat a wounded Marine in a war zone. Oh, I was taught how to do it, but unless I really did it, it doesn’t count, natch. /eye roll/

Guest
2 years 2 months ago

HM2(FMF) here. Best job in the world. Well besides beer taster.

T.L. Knighton
Guest
2 years 2 months ago

HM3 here. Was in when FMF wasn’t a warfare pin, but they were working that direction right before I got out.

Never did get to serve with Marines. Damn “needs of the Navy”. :/

FrancisT
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FrancisT
2 years 2 months ago

Well duh. I mean you’re only a corpseman if you handle dead bodies and Marines aren’t dead. I’m pretty sure that’s right, our glorious annointed one said so
/sarc

T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

Oh, I had a damn field day with that one.

The Phantom
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2 years 2 months ago
This is because Liberals and other unsavory idiots can’t get past their assumption that the purpose of learning to shoot is to kill people. Therefore if Larry’s students didn’t shoot anybody, Larry is a bad teacher. Asking if any of Larry’s students got raped post-instruction wouldn’t enter their heads, because the purpose of learning marksmanship is to shoot people, not to prevent violence. These same Liberals and other unsavory idiots accept without question the popular assumption that the purpose of learning martial arts is peaceful self improvement. Because David Carradine. Speaking to such an individual without at least a baseball… Read more »
T.L. Knighton
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2 years 2 months ago

Actually, if you look at some of the responses, they honestly can’t comprehend the act of killing in self defense. They honestly think the average person is buried by guilt for doing what they have to in a self defense situation.

More importantly, they think that it’s far better to be a victim than to have to deal with any guilt from offing some dirtball.

It’s too pathetic to even really contemplate.

Let’s just say if that’s what they think, they don’t want to read any of my stuff.

robertpinkerton
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robertpinkerton
2 years 2 months ago
I am retired from a more-or-less “career” as a licensed (i.e.: To work armed) security officer (a.k.a. rent-a-cop). For the last ten years of my “career,” I sought — lamentably never found — a Webley Mark VI converted to .45″ ACP. I wanted an ugly sidearm for one simple reason: Given even the faintest scintilla of choice in the matter, I want not to shoot anyone. But if some fool were to act in my presence in a manner requiring me to draw down against him, I want the sight of the weapon to make him stop, then flee; I… Read more »
John C Wright
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John C Wright
2 years 2 months ago

Robertpinkerton, beautiful description of why to carry an ugly sidearm! May I quote you?

The Phantom
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2 years 2 months ago
Robert Pinkerton, re: carrying an ugly gun. I’ve seen that work with cars. I had a pickup truck so ugly that New York City cabbies wouldn’t cut me off when I drove it downtown. When in Arizona I drive an ’86 Ford F-350 dually with scabby paint for the same reason. Its got a skull on the front where the Ford symbol is supposed to be. Guns though, not so much. Just having one is usually all it takes in my experience. But if visual impact is what you want, just gently polish the bluing off barrel crown. Gives you… Read more »
James Dixon
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James Dixon
2 years 2 months ago

> Hell, whatever it is the sane people of Britain would tell Damien to do.

I believe that would be “Sod off, wanker”.

Wes S.
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Wes S.
2 years 2 months ago

It’s been a while…Who originated the “Sod off, Swampy!” insult? I always rather liked that one, and figures it especially applies to Damien…

monkeyfan
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monkeyfan
2 years 2 months ago

If memory serves : “Sod off Swampy” was first used by a bunch Aussie businessmen mocking some enviro-protesters whinging about some ‘issue’ at their place of work.

Austin
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Austin
2 years 2 months ago

Mmmmm… All of Damien’s tears make great seasoning for my popcorn. Great work Larry!

rawlenyanzi
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2 years 2 months ago

While reading this fisk, I played this song:

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bWtoiOeW0w&w=420&h=315%5D

PDA
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PDA
2 years 2 months ago

Reading the replies to Damien has been absolutely glorious. I haven’t felt surges of elation at a would be bully getting pwned like this since the 1999 Rugby World Cup semifinals when France cuffed away the much vaunted All Blacks with imperious grace. Thank you for this.

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sabrinachase
2 years 2 months ago
We live in a world of seven billion human beings, Who do not all uniformly speak English, or even read, or have enough spare income to buy books over food if they can read, whose culture Which is not uniformly Anglo or even Western. Stop dreaming of ancient Empire, dude. has not been reflected or rewarded in ‘the mainstream’. Mainstream what? Manga? Bollywood? Taiwanese animation? *Do* strive for a little cultural diversity my dear fellow… Science fiction – from cult novels that reach a few thousand readers, to blockbuster movies and video games that dominate contemporary culture Contemporary Western, English-speaking,… Read more »
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sabrinachase
2 years 2 months ago

My point being, how arrogant to think *we* can and must represent *them* and their interests in *our* mainstream culture, and to assume they cannot have their own mainstream culture without our permission.

Rhiain
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Rhiain
2 years 2 months ago

Nicely said.

Insectress
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Insectress
2 years 2 months ago

Very well said!
Having lived in a third world country and visited others, I adore my indoor plumbing privilege!

Synova
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Synova
2 years 2 months ago

Excellently said.

It’s as if the whole world only discovered Jackie Chan after he was in Rumble in the Bronx. Or aliens and monsters never land in Tokyo. Or Bollywood is a small movie venture with warbley sopranoes.

Oh… problem with those… they’re *dreadfully* low-brow. Maybe all the seven billion human beings in the world need Damien and forward-looking queer science fiction to show them what high culture is supposed to be… or something.

thewriterinblack
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2 years 2 months ago

Apologies:

Andrew
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Andrew
2 years 2 months ago

I love that show.

Sean
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Sean
2 years 2 months ago

so do I andrew. own em all

Sean
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Sean
2 years 2 months ago

one of the best scenes ever.

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Vidad
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Vidad
2 years 2 months ago

“Larry Correia grows an awesome murder hobo beard. Beards are scary.”

My wife told me to let you know that since women can’t grow beards, beards are ALSO sexist.

Alan
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Alan
2 years 2 months ago

Saw a woman with a beard the other day; I thought THAT was scary.

mmaier2112
Guest
2 years 2 months ago

“My wife told me to let you know that since women can’t grow beards, beards are ALSO sexist.”

Your wife doesn’t get out enough… some women grow KILLER facial hair. Like really… you start thinking “SOMEONE MUST KILL THAT CRITTER HANGING ON HER FACE!”

Vidad
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Vidad
2 years 2 months ago

I suppose it’s my job to protect her from those horrors of nature. It’s what we monster hunters do.

davidbakin
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davidbakin
2 years 2 months ago
On reading that twitter link I thought the guy commenting on Damien’s twitter account about your teaching firearms skills was supporting you by being ironic. Maybe I misinterpreted that. But if you look at it that way … then Damien’s response (“It deliberately elides complex issues like rape within marriage, …”) is even more hilarious. And then that guy goes on to say how his mother pushed a rapist over a wall during the Blitz and then “wondered about it fifty years later, you know?” I really think that’s doubling down on irony. Read it again and see if you… Read more »
Luke
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Luke
2 years 2 months ago

Those last few paragraphs were truly epic.

Andrew
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Andrew
2 years 2 months ago

Here’s what it really comes down to:

I don’t know these people, and I sure don’t care enough about them as individuals to change my behaviors for them. Do I care enough about them collectively to do so? I try not to care one way or another about any group collectively, it’s a bad habit.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik
2 years 2 months ago

“Sadly I couldn’t find my jack boots in time.”

Ah, so you ADMIT to owning jackboots!

😉

Kristophr
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Kristophr
2 years 2 months ago

If you want to join the fan club, you have to get some Jackboots. And a pair of Jhodpers. And a monocle.

Achillea
Guest
2 years 2 months ago

Mustn’t forget the riding crop. Or the three-stick nunchuks so you can hang up your greatcoat so it doesn’t wrinkle.

Guest
2 years 2 months ago

Larry, I’ve thought long and hard about why someone like Mr. Walter would attack someone such as yourself so much with such little ammunition and I think I’ve got it: Rule #36.

Congratulations, you’ve achieved something that would shame even a Brony.

ratseal
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ratseal
2 years 2 months ago

Everytime LC fisks Damien over at the Guardian, that page gets a mad amount of hits which (1) makes the poster look good based on traffic and (2) promotes its SEO index.

Shouldn’t we be using DoNotLink in the same way that Damien does in order to avoiding giving LC or VD or the ‘antichrist of the day’ page hits?

Here, I’ll help.

http://www.donotlink.com/kdF

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masgramondou
2 years 2 months ago

So Damien and the Grauniad are trolling for fun and profit? How very capitalist of them

rocinante2
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rocinante2
2 years 2 months ago

To be fair, I bet Larry’s traffic spikes whenever DGM writes about him, so everybody wins!

That said, all DGM’s columns do is make me buy more Larry Correia books.

rocinante2
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rocinante2
2 years 2 months ago

Turn those “M”s upside down….

Kristophr
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Kristophr
2 years 2 months ago

Absolutely not.

The higher the page google rank goes, the better the odds that a future hiring employer will see it.

Personal controversy is the kiss of death to a career.

Andrew
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Andrew
2 years 2 months ago

I don’t think it works that way for people who’s job is to drive traffic.

Lauren
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2 years 2 months ago

Unless that person is Larry. 🙂

Kristophr
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Kristophr
2 years 2 months ago

That is not a journalists job. Trust me, bad google hits will fry him, but have no effect on a author.

Pugmak
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Pugmak
2 years 2 months ago

If I understand the situation properly, his future employment prospects are only dependent on his having been employed by The Guardian.

I’ve heard that is the only thing BBC considers as a qualification.

NKR
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NKR
2 years 2 months ago

Awesome. The thing that’s so annoying about these people is how smug and scoldy they are when they have to be dishonest in order to make their “point”. You and John C. Wright are truly deserving high muckety mucks in the Evil League of Evil.

RightWingProf
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RightWingProf
2 years 2 months ago

Your and Wright’s takedowns of this git made my last two days. Between his elegant, almost victorian prose (coprophagia indeed) and your Credible Hulk Fuck Off, you pretty much hit him high and low. Franks himself couldn’t have done it better.

You two jointly win the internets today.

NKR
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NKR
2 years 2 months ago

I would love to see a comic book series starring a glib, eloquent Victorian gentleman and his murder-hobo bearded, straight-talking partner. Rescuing liberty from Statism one useful idiot at a time! hehe I’d buy five copies to start. 😉

Dan Lane
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Dan Lane
2 years 2 months ago

I’ll second that.

Mostly I get my entertainment from awesome books, but I’d branch out a bit for that, yes I would. *grin*

Eamon J. Cole
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Eamon J. Cole
2 years 2 months ago

Ooo! Likes, indeed. I can see the panels…

Dave 52
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Dave 52
2 years 2 months ago

The problem isn’t him. It’s the schools that teach this propaganda. It’s across the board, education, work environment, gun control, any amendment you want to name,especially the 1st and 2nd. It’s not going to stop because some douche in England gets a nasty fisk.
Although it was a really, really nasty fisk.

The Phantom
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2 years 2 months ago

“It’s not going to stop because some douche in England gets a nasty fisk.”

You know, I think that’s probably not the case..

I think it WILL stop if every time one of these Lefty slugs raises his eyestalks they get knocked off with a cluebat. Particularly if every time there’s a fan-based award contest, Conservative leaning authors get nominated. Nothing draws a crowd like a fight.

Every time the Lefties have a meltdown in public like this, more and more people see their “arguments” and wonder what kind of morons these Leftards must be. That’s good, IMHO.

Dan Lane
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Dan Lane
2 years 2 months ago
I’d much rather see honest, even vigorous debate than puerile, callow name-calling and pretentious dribble. Yes, dribble, as the drool that drops from the slack-jawed, empty-headed soundbite repeaters when they attempt to attack those who actually *write for a living.* It is tantamount to challenging a professional boxer to fisticuffs when one’s only experience of combat is playground scuffles and five-second slap-fights. They attempt to silence any who do not agree with them *because* their arguments simply cannot stand in the light of sweet reason and clearheaded logic. Therefore it is imperative that we do *not* allow them the acquiescence… Read more »
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2 years 2 months ago
Until recently I was unfamiliar with you and your work but due to the serious ass kicking you are serving these douches I promise I will go out of my way to pick some up. I also want you to know that I am lifelong social liberal and at the risk of falling into the “no true scotsman” fallacy these douches dont represent all liberals. We are disgusted with the whiners and douchy social warriors just like your side is. I attempted to get a degree in Fine Art/English because I wanted to work on my writing and painting. I… Read more »
Pugmak
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Pugmak
2 years 2 months ago

Kinda fits, donchu know.

The US Navy… liberal
Corpsman with the USMC infantry… bad ass.

Gotta give Navy grief. Tradition and all that.

Semper Fi, Doc.

oldnfo
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oldnfo
2 years 2 months ago

Damn Larry, don’t sugar coat it… 🙂 Well done sir, WELL DONE!

CombatMissionary
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CombatMissionary
2 years 2 months ago

…and the match goes to the International Lord of Hate. Again. The Special Snowflake SJW is declared to be in the Section 8 area of writing stipends. He will henceforth be sentenced to write in irrelevant obscurity for the rest of his life, but will be awarded time served in recognition of his career already consisting of such.

john mcintire
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john mcintire
2 years 2 months ago

Did Larry Correia have a twitter duel a couple of years back with some girl who was bashing him about not being as successful as her? And then he went about and completely embarrassed her on the facts? If so, could someone point me to a link to read up on it again? Thanks.

dorfer21
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dorfer21
2 years 2 months ago

Ummm…..

Do you have any openings for the position of ‘Minion’?

After that drubbbing, I wish to be under the employment of the international Lord of Hate

Geodkyt
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Geodkyt
2 years 2 months ago
john mcintire
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john mcintire
2 years 2 months ago

Thanks Larry!!! That was awesome.

samwisegilgee
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2 years 2 months ago
So among things I think this part here may be a key part to Damien’s issues. Damien-Secondly, and this is going to be much more damaging for him longterm, he allowed himself to become very closely associated to Vox Day in the process. Ultimately people do judge others by their associations, and both Larry Correia and John C Wright have made very public declarations of support for Day, that I fear both will deeply regret in the long run. Larry-One of the tactics I’ve seen them take is conflating my views with those of Vox Day. It doesn’t matter that… Read more »
joecrouse
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joecrouse
2 years 2 months ago
Take it easy big guy. You actually sounded like you got ANGRY for a second. Theheart rate is not worth raising over this splooge blossom, This guy is a REASON they have Lawyers. Lawyers get ERECTIONS and wring their hands with greedy pig eyed gleeful lust while doing the happy dance, over suing papers like the Guardian because they KNOW it has big money pockets behind it and lawyers LOVE big money like a fat man likes potato chips. Also It would be Immensely satisfying just to wait for this guy to hold a press conference and simply show up… Read more »
John Carlton
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2 years 2 months ago

A couple of comments. One, apologizing isn’t LIKE negotiating with terrorists, it IS negotiating with terrorists. Just because the violence isn’t physical doesn’t mean that it isn’t violence and the intent isn’t to intimidate into silence. Two, Damien’s feed, what a sewer. There is something really wrong there. So much hate, hate.

Synova
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Synova
2 years 2 months ago
I’m a little leary of the “just because violence isn’t physical”…. however I can easily see “just because force isn’t violent doesn’t mean it’s not force”… The excuse for shutting down speech and throwing people out of organizations and having nervous nellie meltdowns and pearl clutching parties over the idea that someone might show up and walk the halls of the same Hotel is exactly this idea that *it’s not just speech*, that it’s violence, somehow, and thus it’s not a free-speech issue when it comes to shutting down people who say uncomfortable things. Apologizing because they’ve ganged up on… Read more »
pohjalainen
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2 years 2 months ago
Hm. Perhaps modern Hollywood is also eager to educate, but with their budgets they are more compelled to pay more attention to what actually sells than western book publishers are, and their modern audiences are often the whole world. And judging by that, when we are talking about the population of the whole world the world, as a whole, seems to be a lot more receptive to stories about bold men who kill monsters, kick lots of behinds and perhaps save a beautiful woman or two in the process than the whole world is to introspective artistic stories about the… Read more »
SirBrass
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SirBrass
2 years 2 months ago

Larry, I’ve read all your published stuff at least twice over (thrice or even 4 times in the case of MHI), and I don’t recall any protagonist in Spell Bound being bisexual. I recalled clearly all the other stuff you referenced to throw in Damien’s digital face, but not the bisexual part. But that’s not to say that you had any boring characters in Grimnoire.

Austin
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Austin
2 years 2 months ago

Whisper in Spellbound makes a comment about being able to flirt with women as well as men at one point.

SirBrass
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SirBrass
2 years 2 months ago
Considering the time in which the story was set, I just assumed that was just b/c 1) she was French, and 2) it didn’t have any real sexual overtones. Then again, that’s the only mention of it given in the book, whereas the subjects of segregation and rascism got a (rightfully) bigger platform. Those were big issues back then and they were key to the culture. IIRC, the Grimnoire chapter in America was looked down upon by the European knights partly b/c Black Jack Pershing was so willing to be “racially” (I hate when that word is used so inaccurately…… Read more »
Andrew
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Andrew
2 years 2 months ago

Wait, wait, wait…you know you can’t count Whisper. Sure, she’s bi, but the story doesn’t center around her sexuality. It’s about her being a spy, worried about a threat and in the end deciding to err on the side of trust, hope and mercy. If her vajina isn’t the most important thing about the character, she doesn’t count.