WriterDojo S2 Ep15: the Kickstarter Episode

Recently, a well known writer launched a Kickstarter that did pretty well for itself. Does that mean traditional publishers are done for? How does this affect the writing community? Is everyone just going to do this from now on? Our insightful Hosts/Authors Steve Diamond and Larry Correia return this week to ruminate on this and speculate on the long term effects. 

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8 thoughts on “WriterDojo S2 Ep15: the Kickstarter Episode”

  1. An episode of food reminds me of the comics “writers” who got handed a golden ticket (“You have the politically popular ethnicity and sexuality, how would you like to write an a-list character with no editorial controls!”) and they ALWAYS include eating scenes because they’re LITERALLY fat and bad at writing. The worst part is it’s not even GOOD food, it’s just sweets and fast food/chain diner staples. Having taken up cooking to eat unusual and high quality food, that trash writing disgusts me. It’s not even a trap either, plenty of anime have had cooking episodes with working recipes, many of them even relevant to the plot (naturally the show with the vaguely lesbian stepsisters bonding over fishing has to have them actually COOK the fish they catch at some point)

  2. Laughed really hard at the part where Larry asked “they’re not that dumb are they?” in reference to publishers turning down a Brandon book.

    There was just a beat of silence after that which was pure gold.

    Every time I have looked at the Twitter of someone in publishing I have been disappointed.

  3. Yeah, Sanderson going to the moon with Kickstarter was amazing, but definitely more a function of his brand and hustle than “publishing is dead!” Now, it should make publishers wake up and realize they need to get to work, but I’m not going to hold my breath.

    Also, I noticed that Steve again showed up his sociopathic tendencies, though he took it to a whole new level doing a math problem verbally. I mean, murder’s one thing, but that’s something else.

  4. I somehow didn’t realize he had finished the Wheel of Time series. I’d heard the Wheel of Time books, heard that they were very good, and heard that the author had suffered from a bout of author existence failure before finishing them, so decided I didn’t want to get into them.

    I think I vaguely remember hearing someone had been contracted to finish them, but had sort of figured it was more like the Dune books, or pretty much every other series that some 3rd party got brought in to convert the original author’s notes into money.

    I had *not* yet heard that he had actually done a fantastic job with the books. That is an achievement. I do believe I need to get those books, and read those books.

    And a pile on accounting scandals, but that’s a different problem…

  5. Question for the dojo: when should someone wrote under a pen name, instead of their own? Is this mostly determined by how comfortable, or not, one is with being findable?

    1. One should always write under a pen name, if only to protect the rest of the family.

      http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/04/18/the-deep-state-is-getting-nervous/

      Taylor Lawrence, the ‘journalist’ from the Washington Post is trying to dox @LibsofTikTok. Which is a twitter account that just reposts stupid shit liberals say on TikTok. The Washington Post reporto-babe is going to the homes of the suspected account owner’s -relatives-. Because it’s not enough to dox the writer, you gotta go after their grandma too.

      Larry lives on a mountain in Utah, in a house made of machineguns and gold bars. I hear the yard is protected by dreaded Assault Mooses. He can probably see off a few flopping camels or Chinese bot farmers if they get uppity.

      I live in Canada in a normal house, with no assault mooses. For protection from madLibs I have a Maglite. The crew-served 6 C-cell version, it is hefty. But still, it’s a flashlight.

      Therefore I recommend anonymity where possible. Assault mooses don’t come cheap, and I don’t make enough from writing to feed one.

      Maybe after I become a Real Author I can have a big name reveal, and people will say “Who’s that guy? Never heard of him.”

    2. Once established, one reason is branding (see: Nora Roberts vs JD Robb).

      Another is to rebrand if your initial ‘brand’ is weak and you feel your new work is a significant step up (Lindholm vs Hobb), or if you want to break up your own creations from licensed work (Kim Newman/Jack Yeovil).

      Depending on the contract if writing for BigPub, if the contract gives them the right to continue the series under your name but with a different writer (Vampire diaries), pen names are another protection.

  6. Not a writer or any kind of authority on this, but I’m willing to wager your real name has something to do with it. Is it distinct enough it will actually be first in search results? Has someone else of prominence written under that name?

    In-fact, even if you do use your real name, there’s still some questions on how you style it. Women writing fiction not primarily aimed at women often use their first and middle initial rather than their actual name is an obvious style choice, but there’s also the question of using your proper name vs. what everyone calls you etc..

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