That title isn’t joking. This post is aimed at my liberal readers. I’m a libertarian leaning Republican and gun expert, who thinks you are wrong about a lot of stuff, but I’m not writing this to gloat about your loss. For the record, I disliked all the presidential candidates.
Judging by your social media over the last few days many liberals have been utterly terrified that your government might turn tyrannical or that evil people will now be emboldened to hurt you. I’m going to let you in on a little thing the other half of the country is familiar with to keep those unlikely, yet catastrophic, events from happening.
And that my lefty friends, is 2nd Amendment.
Having just gone through a war against a tyrannical government, the Founders understood that governments can go bad, so they made sure to note our God given right (or we’ll say naturally occurring right, since a bunch of you are atheists) to keep and bear arms in order to defend ourselves. The 2nd Amendment isn’t about hunting or “sporting purposes”, it’s about having weapons that you can fight with. As an added bonus, being able to protect yourself from a tyrannical government means that you’re a lot better equipped to deal with any common criminal who decides to hurt you.
Before I get into the details about how to enjoy your newly discovered 2nd Amendment rights, let me just say that I get you’re sad, angry, bitter, and fearful. But just like my people over the last few elections, you’ll get over it. The really hyperbolic freak outs about Literally Hitler make you sound just like the Alex Jones crowd worried that Obama was going to herd Christians into FEMA camps last time. So take a deep breath and relax. Your friends and neighbors are the same as they were last week. The vast majority weren’t voting because racism, they voted against the status quo and a really unlikable Democrat. And no, they aren’t going to round you up into cattle cars.
But in the off chance they do, let’s get you prepared!
WHAT GUNS ARE FOR
I’ll start out with the far more likely threat, violent criminals who would assault, rape, or murder you, and how to deal with them.
Many of you have been sharing every second hand account, rumor, and urban legend about some random doofus in Somnambulant, Wisconsin or Bumfight, Louisiana, shouting an ethnic slur or spray painting a swastika on a wall. Newsflash, in a country with a third of a billion people, some percentage of them are going to be assholes. I hate to break it to you, but the assholes were there before, and they will be there forever. Just right now the news has a self-serving incentive to report about these assholes in particular.
But Correia! You’re not a marginalized Mexican transsexual Muslim! What do you know!?
I know that anybody can be “marginalized” if they walk into the wrong neighborhood. Violence can happen to any of us, and it does, all the time. Whether your odds of being a victim are good or bad, it still sucks when you draw the short straw and somebody tries to hurt you. Whoever you are, you are correct to be concerned for your safety. Anybody can be attacked, and everybody should be prepared to deal with it.
Since this is addressed to liberals, spare me the usual nonsense about “Victim Blaming”. We don’t have time for silliness. If you’re banking on the goodwill of evil people to keep you safe, you are a sucker. If I urge you to look both ways before crossing the street, I’m not victim blaming, I’m trying to keep your stupid ass from getting hit by a bus.
Whether you are being attacked because some jerk doesn’t like your head scarf and you voted for Hillary, or getting pulled out of your car and beaten because the local hooliganry thinks you voted for Trump, or some dude with no coherent political philosophy beyond the voices in his head told him to murder you and rape your dog, it doesn’t matter… There are evil people in the world, and they will hurt you simply because it amuses them.
So there are bad people who want to hurt you. Now what do you do?
Regardless of what you worship, who you love, or you skin tone, you have the unalienable right to self-defense. The 2nd is an equal opportunity amendment.
Calling the cops is awesome. If they get there in time they will be happy to save your ass, but that’s assuming they get there in time. Violent encounters usually happen very quickly. Good police response time is measured in minutes. You can be dead in seconds. Plus, your side is the one that doesn’t trust the cops anyway. It isn’t Republicans out there protesting the police. So why is it you expect agents of the state to risk their lives to save you? Gratitude?
What most of us in the right side of the country understand is that responsible adults need to be able to defend themselves. That means owning guns and learning how to use them. (To be fair, many on the left have also come to this same conclusion already, but they have to keep that opinion to themselves so the rest of you don’t yell at them).
Unarmed self-defense is great, when it works. I’m a fan. Less-lethal devices like pepper spray are great, when they work. But trust me on this, everybody who does this professionally, who has spent years learning about how violence really works, we all have guns.
You’ve probably been taught that guns are frightening murder rods, just itching to go shoot up a school. You want to survive, get over that nonsense. I know that most of the stuff liberals think they know about firearms is flat out wrong. I’m here to tell you as a retired professional firearms instructor that sadly everything Occupy Democrats memes have taught you is incorrect. Whatever you think you know, check those preconceived notions at the door, because it is probably biased garbage.
Firearms are not magic. They are neither evil nor good. They are just tools that throw a projectile. That’s it. There’s no voodoo involved. They are items that allow a physically weak person to survive a confrontation against somebody who is stronger, or there’s more of them, or whatever other nightmare scenario you come up with. I know many of you are scared of guns, but just think of them like fire extinguishers, but for murderers.
HOW SELF-DEFENSE WORKS
Just because you have a gun doesn’t mean that you can just go and shoot whoever you feel like. I see this pop up all the time amongst my liberal friends. Like if a redneck sees a black dude, he can just blast him because the redneck felt uncomfortable. First off, no, that’s not how the laws work. Second off, maybe if you’d quit proclaiming everybody who isn’t part of your clique is a racist murderer, you’d win more elections.
Here is another article where I go into a great deal of detail about when it is legal to shoot somebody. http://monsterhunternation.com/2014/11/25/the-legalities-of-shooting-people/ I taught this stuff for a living. Trust me, I know more about this than the staff writers at Salon. Almost everything I’ve ever seen from a liberal publication concerning self-defense laws is incorrect. And I’m not just talking like I enjoy guns and they don’t, I mean they have such a basic, elementary misunderstanding of the legalities of shooting people that we aren’t even inhabiting the same reality. My reality is the one that the jury instructions will be issued from.
The short version is that in order to be justified in using lethal force against another human being, they need to be demonstrating the ability to seriously harm you, the opportunity to do so, and acting in a manner that a reasonable person would believe they are an immediate threat.
So no, you can’t just shoot somebody walking down the street in a Trump hat. That would be Murder. Or considering most liberals don’t understand basic marksmanship, more likely Attempted Murder. However, if somebody dressed entirely in Confederate flags walks up, screams DIE GAY ABORTION VEGAN and tries to stab you with his commemorative Heinrich Himmler SS dagger, it’s game on (don’t blame me, I’m basing this hypothetical scenario on what most of your facebook feeds sound like).
Go read that article. As a bonus once you understand how use of force laws actually work, you won’t be able to get as spun up with outrage over every shooting that makes the news.
LEARN HOW GUNS WORK
Now that you’ve decided that you should be able to protect yourself from sexist war bands, and you know the basics about when it’s okay to shoot people, you want to go get strapped. But hold your horses there, Che. Guns are tools, but they are also very unforgiving of stupidity, and the last thing I want to have happen is one of you liberals shoot somebody on accident, because then you’ll be trying to pass more laws to punish people like me. First you need to learn how to be safe.
Seek out your local gun range. Sadly, for those of you living in deep blue areas, this will be difficult because the politicians you have voted for have run off most of your local gun ranges. Now that you’re afraid the state can’t/won’t protect you, I hope you realize that was a bad call.
But if you do have one in driving distance, most ranges will have ads posted for upcoming basic classes. Contrary to what you’ve been told about the ultra evil National Rifle Association, the majority of what the NRA does is conduct basic safety training to keep newbies from shooting themselves in the foot. They will walk you through the fundamental rules of gun safety, mechanics, and storage.
Here is another mind blowing factoid for you liberals, the NRA was actually started by Union army officers to train recently freed blacks how to defend themselves from the Democrat KKK. The first gun control laws in America were racist in origin, and aimed at disarming “undesirables” like blacks or the Irish. So in that respect, not much has changed.
For those of you in the LGBTWTFBBQ community, in the aftermath of the Orlando Pulse nightclub shooting, a transsexual friend of mine started Operation Blazing Sword. https://www.facebook.com/OperationBlazingSword/ It is a network of firearms instructors across the country who are volunteering to help out gay and trans people who are new to guns learn about basic safety and firearms familiarization. I helped them get started. Check their map. They’ve probably got somebody near you willing to help.
If you haven’t blocked all of them yet for having dissenting opinions, you can ask your gun owning friends and family for advice. I would still recommend talking to actual experts though, just because we know what we’re doing, and we personally haven’t had to listen to you talk about how we’re all baby murdering psychopaths over Thanksgiving dinner. But if they love you, they’ll be happy to help you learn about how guns work. If you don’t have any friends who own guns, you may want to ask yourself how you live in such an echo chamber.
Again, most of what you’ve been told about the gun culture is a myth. We want you to be able to defend yourself, and we want you to be safe and responsible doing it.
HOW GUN LAWS WORK
Now it gets really complicated. And that’s entirely your fault. See, traditionally Democrats don’t like the 2nd Amendment and historically have done everything in their power to screw with it. Your gun laws are going to vary dramatically based upon where you live. It might be really difficult and expensive for you to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights, or it might be relatively easy.
But you’re scared right now! Well, that’s too bad. Because for the most part Democrats have tried to make it so that citizens have to abdicate their responsibilities and instead entrust that only state can defend everyone… That doesn’t seem like such a bright idea now that you don’t trust who is running the state, huh?
You might get attacked in your home, but let’s be realistic, you’re way more likely to be attacked out in public. Accordingly, democrats have made it way harder to have a gun where you are most likely to need it. If your state is red or purple, you probably have an inexpensive way to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon so that you can be armed everywhere. The bluer your state, the more unlikely/expensive that becomes, and in the most exclusive cities, unless you are a politician, movie star, or body guarding a politician or movie star, you are basically out of luck.
Oh yeah, it kind of goes without saying by this point, but most of what you think you know about what gun laws do is wrong. I know you think you’ve been helping with your demands to Do Something, but you aren’t. I wrote this article a few years ago in the aftermath of Sandy Hook. It is one of the most widely read articles on gun control laws ever written. http://monsterhunternation.com/2015/06/23/an-opinion-on-gun-control-repost/
I am a big fan of concealed carry, and if you are honestly worried about murderous racists being emboldened, then you should be too. If your state has a concealed weapons permit, I would recommend taking that class. Even if you are not personally ready to take that big step of actually keeping a firearm on your person, the class should provide a great primer on your state and local laws.
There are thousands of onerous little gun laws. I won’t overcomplicate this, but you guys have been sticking extra gun laws on the books all over the country at every opportunity. In your area you might not be able to buy certain guns, or you’ll have to lock them up in a specific manner, or you’ll have to register them with the state. (now that you’re worried about the state rounding you up, having a registry of which of you own guns seems kind of dumb huh?)
HOW TO BUY A GUN
Now that you understand basic safety and marksmanship, let’s get you armed.
Contrary to what Barack Obama told you, Glocks are not easier to get than books. Hell, I’ll trade an autographed copy of each of my published novels for a Glock if you’ve got any spares lying around.
If you haven’t completely alienated all of your pro-gun friends by blaming them for every mass murder that’s ever happened, now would be a great time to ask them to come shopping with you.
Find your local gun store. Go there. Ask the nice people behind the counter questions about what is the best gun for you needs. They are usually very helpful, however, don’t tell them that you are a liberal, because since you’ve previously tried to ban everything you’re now buying, they will probably laugh at you. That’s expected, because your people do kind of malign them constantly and have repeatedly tried to ruin their livelihood. Oh well, live and learn. You know better now.
Shockingly, you will quickly discover that the gun best suited for your home self-defense needs is probably one of the guns that the news would call “assault weapons”. In reality that’s a gibberish term to scare newbs, but remember, most of what you’ve been taught is complete bullshit. You want the best tool for the job. Yes. It looks scary. That’s kind of the point.
If you live in a place with concealed carry laws, you will probably want one of those deadly high capacity assault pistols too. In regular America we just call those handguns. Have the experts help pick one out that suits your lifestyle and manner of dress. Then make sure you get a good holster to carry it safely. Common newb mistake is to get a decent gun and a crap holster. Don’t do that.
Once you’ve picked your firearms, you will need to fill out a federal 4473 form, provide ID (gasp! Racist!), and the shop will call in your background check to make sure you aren’t a felon, illegal alien, or otherwise prohibited person. Since this check is computerized it only takes a few minutes.
Now that is how it works in most states. If you are lucky enough to live in a blue state liberal paradise, then you may have to deal with extra laws. Like mandatory waiting periods, special permits, or you’ve got to jump through a bunch of other onerous hoops before you are allowed to defend yourself… But hey, you voted for that. Suck it up, buttercup.
GET BETTER
Now you need to learn to shoot. It doesn’t work like the movies.
There are a lot of people out there who do what I used to do, so find the professional firearms instructors in your region and take some classes. Your local ranges and stores will know who is teaching or will have ads posted. A good instructor won’t just teach you how to hit the target, but will teach you basic tactics, and when/how to use your gun. I spent a big chunk of my time teaching people how to avoid fights and not make stupid decisions.
The more you shoot, the more you train, the more comfortable you will become. Your confidence will grow. If something awful happens you can be part of the solution instead of just another victim. You won’t rise to the occasion, you will default to your lowest level of training. So get trained.
Oh yeah, this training part gets expensive too. Government regulations have driven up the cost of ammunition. You get one guess which party is responsible for that. And around the blue cities you’ve closed all of your shooting ranges because guns are scary and loud (oh yeah, we could fix that, but Democrats made it illegal or really expensive to make guns quieter), so you’ll have to drive further in order to train. Let me check… Nope, I’m still fresh out of pity.
WHAT ABOUT DOOMSDAY?
Now the elephant in the room. I’ve seen a lot of you going on about how terrified you are for all your “marginalized” friends, that the government is going to turn tyrannical and genocidal, and murder them by the million. I don’t think that’s actually going to happen, but let’s say it did. We’re talking full on Gestapo Stasi jack boots and cattle car time. Bear with me through this hypothetical situation, that stuff about ability/opportunity/immediate threat is actually happening, but it is systematically being carried out by agents of the state against its own citizens. I’m talking war in the streets.
I keep seeing you guys saying that you’re going to “fight harder”. No offense, but bullshit. What are you going to do? Call more innocent bystanders racists? Post more articles from Salon even harder? Have a protest and burn your local CVS? Block more freeways with your bodies? Guess what. If the government has actually gone full tyrannical they’re just going to machinegun your dumbass in the street. They are going to drive through your roadblock, and your bodies will grease the treads of their tanks.
That’s what actual tyrants do. So despite your bitching, virtue signaling, and panic attacks, we’re a long way off of that.
There is a saying that has long been common in my half of the country. There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty, soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. You can debate, vote, and go to court in order to get things changed. You only go ammo box when those other things no longer work, because once you do, there is no going back.
God willing, America never gets to that point, because if we ever go to war with ourselves again, then it will be a blood bath the like of which the world has never seen. We have foolishly created a central government so incomprehensibly powerful, that to stop it from committing genocide would require millions of capable citizens to rise up and fight.
Congratulations. Now you understand why the Framers put the 2nd Amendment in there. It is the kill switch on the Republic, and everyone with a clue prays we never have to use it.
Right now you guys are angry and talking a lot of shit. This is all new to you. My side is the one with the guns, training, and the vast majority of the combat vets, and we really don’t want our government to get so out of control that this ever happens. Only fools wish for a revolution. But that big red button is still there in case of emergency because if a nation as powerful as America ever turned truly evil then the future is doomed. As Orwell said, if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever.
That’s the real meaning of the 2nd Amendment. So don’t screw around with it. If you do you’re no better than the fat wannabes running around the woods in their surplus camo and airsoft plate carriers… You don’t get that, but all my gun culture readers know exactly who I’m talking about. They are the morons CNN trots out whenever they need to paint all gun owners as irresponsible inbred redneck violent dupes for your benefit.
And spare me the typical talking points about how an AR-15 can’t fight tanks and drones… It’s way beyond the scope of this article, but you don’t have a flipping clue what you’re talking about. Every HuffPo guest columnist thinks they are Von Clauswitz. They aren’t.
This Doomsday option is something we never want to use, but which we need to maintain just in case. It is also another reason Hillary lost. One motivator for Americans to vote for Trump was that Hillary hates the 2nd Amendment. Her husband put the biggest gun ban we’ve ever had in place, and she has been exceedingly clear that she hates guns and would get rid of all of them if she could.
And doing that would push that big red button.
When the already super powerful government wants to make you even more powerless, that scares the crap out of regular Americans, but you guys have been all in favor of it. Take those nasty guns! Guns are scary and bad. Don’t you stupid rednecks know what’s good for you? The people should live at the whim of the state!
But now that the shoe is on the other foot, and somebody you distrust and fear is in charge for a change, the government having all sorts of unchecked power seems like a really bad idea, huh?
Absolute power in the hands of anyone should terrify you. The 2nd Amendment is there to make sure some of that power always remains in the hands of the people.
CONCLUSION
So that’s it. That’s how you go down the path of responsible gun ownership.
I don’t care how marginalized you think you are. Get armed. Get trained. Be prepared to defend yourself and your loved ones. That’s part of being a responsible adult.
And quit trying to disarm the rest of us.
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The guide is over. Quit reading if you are easily offended. I’ve already heard enough crying last week, I don’t need it in my blog comments.
Now, it’s my blog, I get to rant because I feel like it. As a personal favor in exchange for all this helpful free advice, quit friggin’ yelling at everybody. Damn, libs, people came to a different conclusion than you did, that doesn’t make them sexist, racist, homophobic, or evil. If you hadn’t let the DNC sabotage Bernie Sanders you’d probably be celebrating your victory today. You ran a hideous candidate. Get over yourself and quit blocking traffic. Protesting doesn’t give you the right to burn other people’s property, no matter how butt hurt you are. And just because you saw a picture of racist graffiti: A. For all you know it was put there by Shaun King’s lying ass to get his old job back. Or B. It was put there by an actual racist doofus, and you’re giving a dimwitted shitbag with a $3 can of spray paint power over your emotions. Random scumbags on the right always represent everybody you disagree with, but when an asshole from Black Lives Matters murders five cops or a Muslim blows somebody up they are anomalies and we shouldn’t paint with a broad brush—No shit, thanks Hypocrite-Einstein! People who know dick about the military sound like idiots when explaining to people who actually know how security clearances work how Hillary did no wrong, because we know we’d be in jail for far less. When he was leaking things that made Bush look bad you loved Julian Assange so hard that Benedict Cumberbatch played him in the movie. And no, people don’t want your kid/grandma to die, but Obamacare is taking another $300-$900 extra out of everybody’s pocket for crappier insurance and they’re broke and pissed. Madonna offering free blowjobs isn’t the incentive you’d think it is. Jerkoff celebrities saying they’d move if Trump won made me want to vote for him just to spite them and I can’t stand the man! Trump sucks, but everybody on your side is such a douche that it didn’t matter. This wasn’t some righteous battle between good and evil, it was choosing between brain or colon cancer. Hillary was a reptile piloting a lifelike human suit, with zero charisma, and entitlement issues, who got the candidate she wanted to run against the most and she STILL LOST. Get over it.
Whew…
And finally, don’t blame me. I voted for ice cream.
Peace out.
[STANDING OVATION]
Both to the ovation and post.
Love it!
Took me three attempts to get past “LGBTWTFBBQ” because I couldn’t see through the tears of laughter 😀
Mmmm. BBQ………
Cook good BBQ, and I couldn’t care less about one’s sexual identity.
(of course, I really don’t care anyway, I just like good BBQ)
Yes, sir. Good BBQ is a praise-worthy thing and should be celebrated.
Have you noticed that the tolerant and diverse folks seem to leave the S out of that?
That actually sounds like an event…if they were smart, they should copyright that and make it happen.
Nah…that would mean that they would have to eat meat, too. Not going to happen.
[Slow clap building to thunderous applause]. Well said Larry, I hope you don’t mind if I go and share this over on my own blog, giving you full credit of course, just want it over their too, plus facebook.
Well said, I love how you gave them the directions needed while also not letting them off for making things so annoyingly difficult. Hopefully some people will get through the article without having an offence attack, and actually see a bit more of the real world they are living in.
Bother, their instead of there. My bad, gotta remember to check my typing before clicking post.
This should be the 17th writer essay in the New Yorker. I’m sure everyone is shocked that none of the other writers advocated that people arm themselves. Also, this was 100x more fun to read than Toni Morrison’s essay.
the back of the corn flakes box is more fun to read than Toni Morrison.
So were the prep instructions for my colonoscopy last month.
As an added bonus, you can now say you have seen the world from a uniquely liberal point of view.
This is the best blog that I’ve ever read. I love your work, fiction and nonfiction blogs.. thanks Larry !
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Nice, if unflinching guide. I just offered to show my liberal friends how to safely handle and store firearms. Reaction is split about 50/50 between ZOMG! YOU OWN GUNS?!?!?! and some mild interest. We’ll see how it shakes out.
Yeah, I’m getting a lot of that too.
Like fire extinguishers except for murderers is in the running for all time best line ever .
My favorite is “I’m not victim blaming, I’m try to stop your stupid ass from getting hit by a bus.” I’m of the mind that a lot of liberals own guns but won’t admit it to the aforementioned “stupid ass” liberals to avoid being ostracized. And some Hollywood types have had firearms training with real guns for safety purposes and realisms sake, because a gun on a movie set can kill you just as dead as a gun in the real world. Just ask Brandon Lee.
Yeah. Some of the loudest voices against private gun ownership make their livings shooting guns in the movies- and are protected by private people with guns, which lets you know what they really think.
I recently realized there are a lot of gun owning liberals out there who utterly despise the private ownership of anything more martial than duck guns. They are called duck hunters. Not all duck hunters, to be sure, but a non-trivial percentage of duck hunters have made it very clear to me that anyone who thinks we have a constitutionally guaranteed right to actual weapons is a dangerous spittle spewing jerk. As in, to quote one of them who is also a gun dealer, we’re stupid wierdos who need to stop with “that Constitution bulls***.”
Fudds.
Well, those duck hunters are people to be avoided. Luckily, they’re easy to avoid, as duck hunting seems pretty boring to me.
The ILOH has a way with words. One might be tempted to think he was a real writer or something.
Eh….it’s a bit ambiguous as to who is using the tool and who is being extinguished. I know which one Larry meant, but a less knowledgeable or charitable reader might not. That was my only major problem with the article.
Maybe a better way to phrase it would have been “Like a fire extinguisher, except you use it to put out murderers instead of fires”. It’s a bit clunkier, but less ambiguous…
Let me do the wordy stuff. You can worry about explaining it to the willfully obtuse.
Extinguishers are FOR people against a fire, a firearm is for people against a (would be?) murderer. It’s a logical conclusion, but I understand much of the country has trouble with logic.
I would change it as well. I knew what you meant, but it took me two quick mental steps to come to the right interpretation.
I had no trouble reading it the right way ’round.
This is my fire extinguisher. This is my murderer extinguisher. I do everything I can to not be forced to use either one.
Thanks Larry. I’m going to share this with my friends who are gripping right now. You make alot of sense. Volens et Potens
What are they gripping? NVM, I doubt I want to know……. 😉
Shaun King lie! He would never! /s
Great article Larry!
Re civil rights: excellent point. It’s described quite well in one of the chapters of Tonso’s excellent “The gun culture and its enemies” — by someone who was right in the middle of that effort and depended on his weapons every day for survival.
I’ve had that discussion with so-called “civil rights advocates”. They are proud to stand up for civil rights, until I say I’m glad they support my civil right to own a gun, then they go off on a rant, and I laugh at their hypocrisy. They only advocate the rights they like, that gives them more power.
Nice post. You’re not going to overcome decades of programming though. Gun == racists tool of the evil Republican. Guns magically shoots people.
I’ve got a well-maintained lightly-used Glock 19 (upgraded to a 21) with spare mags; will swap for the complete autographed Correia hardcover collection any time! (Serious offer; it’d be a fair exchange of value in my opinion.)
I’m totally down for that.
I think this website now has my email — let’s work out the details!
If you are still an FFL, maybe we can work out a deal for one of my G18Cs?
First a helpful advice column for the fearful lefty, now a books for guns program!
By this time next week, they’ll love you!
Everyone keep in mind that Mike Williamson also has a Books for Glocks program running. A full signed set of his works in hardcover for a decent pistol. Definitely in the Freehold tradition.
I always saw Freeholders as, whenever practical, going for custom and oddball guns that they just liked best. Of course, their military standard rifle has millions of aftermarket doodads.
Holy Hannah in a handbasket, Mr. Correia. You have the coolest author perks ever.
A conservative friend of mine who is not sticking her head up to be whack-a-moled just now would like to say, “THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS ARTICLE!!!”
Well said, Larry! I will be sending this on to some friends of mine. Not sure if it’ll change their minds, but maybe it’ll at least get them to think. There are some introspective liberals out there, albeit in small numbers.
I don’t know, Larry. I think maybe we should respect our Lefty neighbors’ advanced notions and compassionate spirits and encourage to stay disarmed. You know. For the children.
I must regretfully agree.
Given how many Leftists appear to be utterly losing their minds and making unambiguous threats of violence against people who disagree with them politically–Charles Walz, Paul Schrader, many others, and Google for their names if you don’t know what I’m talking about–I am of the opinion that if these people find firearms distasteful and do not wish to burden themselves with the responsibilities that go along with firearms ownership, who am I to try to convince them otherwise? In the meantime I think I need to go to the range again tomorrow…
A lot of what is going around about Bush, er, Trump=Hitler is Virtue Signaling plus a large dose of Fear Porn.
Larry should have probably included the advise to “never bring a tactical melon baller to a gun fight!”
A lesson those on the left are just now learning (if it will stick):
Anything government can do for you, it can do to you.
A piece I wrote a while back on why those “evil black rifles” are arguably the best choice for home defense:
http://thewriterinblack.blogspot.com/2015/02/home-defense-firearms.html
Outstanding sir. well spoken. we should all post this in our social media today.
Bravo
Here is an article that takes perhaps a different look at the 2nd and the reason behind it.
“The Second Amendment as a Prophylactic”
http://www.myhightechsecurity.com/blog/the-second-amendment-as-a-prophylactic/
That’s long been basically the argument I’ve used.
“The Second Amendment exists primarily to ensure it is never needed, because would-be tyrants are deterred.”
The power of the Sword of Damocles is that it hangs, not falls.
Is that original? I save good quotes, and like to attribute them when possible.
Not much luck with my sharing so far, apparently you are offensive to some people. 🙂
Tell them to find somebody wearing a safety pin and get a hug.
The only association I have with people wearing safety pins is for infants. Is this really a thing, or is it a joke.
I’m still can’t tell if this universe is just screwing with me or not.
It’s really a thing. In the aftermath of the election, people are wearing safety pins to indicate that they’re safe to be around for racial and serial minorities, as well as for cossetted gentry liberals
Serial minorities? Are those the ones that change their identification to whatever one gets “most oppressed” for the day?
I’m betting that when the smoke clears it will be revealed that the safety pin idea originated on 4chan.
Milo Yiannopoulos currently owns 4chan, so it should be fun.
Heinlein was right. These are the Crazy Years. We’ve all been living in The Onion since around 2002.
Yep. Sensible. This advice should be freely spread whenever people get scared. Feel free to sprinkle it with liberal amounts of common sense as well.
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About that Obamacare Expense?
That is $300 to $900 every MONTH,. For me, it is a policy that costs $15,000.00 a year and doesn’t do anything until I pay $5,000.00.
Twenty Thousand Dollars a year.
A new compact car. To replace the fifteen year old car.
A year’s tuition for my niece or nephew at the best state college.
Four individual week long vacations overseas.
A new kitchen, laundry room, and bathroom.
$200,000.00 in my retirement accounts when I retire in twenty years.
Have you considered doing a Healthshare? For two of us we pay $299/mo and have a $1000 deductible total, and then they pay 100% after that. We choose our own providers, there is no in network, etc. I use Liberty Healthshare (which I think is the best, but there are others as well).
A 20k wall to climb over before leaving the corporate world and starting your own business or retiring.
This essay (and a couple of your other pieces on gun control and the lunacy thereof + the Ikea shopping post from best of) were the gateway drug for my wife to start your novels. After reading this, then clicking through to some of the others, she told me to give her one of your books. I pulled the first Grimnoire book off the shelf and handed it to her.
Very cogent, thank you, Larry.
This is one of the best things I ever read. If only they’d actually listen.
-Hillary voter, Literally Hillary
I didn’t use the word “libtard”. I would never insult the mentally handicapped by saying they were leftists.
The Democrats really need to take a good look at their primary process, and do a bit of house cleaning. They pretty much let Hillary get away with suppressing Bernie.
Yeah that was shitty to watch, the blue drones overruled us.
They suppressed Bernie in the primaries but the fact that there were not other choices suggests someone made sure it happened that way. It wouldn’t need to be 14 or so like the Repubs started with but, you know… five?
The problem is, can you name five Democrats for 2020?
They don’t have a very deep bench right now. I think Bernie supporters are self-deluded to think he could have won, and certifiably insane to be chanting Bernie 2020! already.
The only three that come to my mind immediately are, what, maybe Andrew Cuomo? Cory Booker? Antonio Villaraigosa?
Warren if you can convince her to run….
There was some indication and expectation that she wanted to run this time. Why didn’t she?
I think she didn’t want to go up against the Clinton machine. In 2020, that won’t be a factor.
She’ll be 71 and the Bern will be 79. I think the Grim Reaper is going to be the biggest factor for most of the few names I’ve seen floated for the Democrats.
Antony V.? That sounds like a desperation move (says old guy who grew un in L.A. County in the 50’s.)
As of this morning, Governor Cuomo has more staff under indictment than Richard Nixon did.
Jim Webb was in the Dem primaries, too, but it was basically the Hillary Show. Sanders got noticed because he kept skittering around underfoot like a cockroach, but Webb pretty much sank without a trace.
I hadn’t considered Webb, but he’s another one that’s getting up there in age. Of course, he’s not radically Leftwing, so it’s no wonder he disappeared from the primaries. For all their talk of youth, energy, and vibrancy, their slim pickins are old pickins.
Not to defend the Republican Party, but the Republicans are enjoying historical majorities nationwide among the states and have recaptured the POTUS and legislature within 6 years. And that’s doing “poorly” as of late??
“poorly as of late”… Uh… Over the last decade they’ve gained congress, the senate, record domination of state legislatures, a bunch of governorships, and now the presidency.
Slight correction to your post: Bernie Sanders was the only authentic guy running on the Democrats’ side. Some of the Republican candidates, like Ben Carson, were authentic too. I didn’t want Carson to win the primary, because he’s too naive about politics and would have gotten smoked in the general election — but he is an authentic, genuine human being who says what he means, and I have a great deal of respect for him as a person (even though I disagree with a few of the policy positions he advocated, IIRC).
Y’know… the problem with saying “So-and-so is a genuine human being” is that horrible, or shallow, or tyrranical people are also genuine human beings. Horrible, shallow tyrranical human beings, but human beings nonetheless. Don’t deny the full humanness of either human good or human evil.
Try “So-and-so is a good man with strong convictions” instead.
/nitpick
Except for Hillary. She’s a lizard. A horrible, shallow, tyrranical space lizard. But everyone else, yeah, that’s true.
I’m more inclined to think “Pod Person”
To me, “not a genuine human being” doesn’t imply a non-person, just someone who isn’t genuine (meaning honest about his feelings and intentions).
I would rate most of this year’s candidates as genuine except Trump and Hillary. They just didn’t have the money to buy in to the DNC or RNC in-groups.
I would have voted for ice cream, but being a fat white man, I am trying to change. I can’t spell all the nasty things they have been calling me lately. But then the weekend spent instructing at an Appleseed event was worthy. And I never asked their politics.
Contrary to popular belief and right-wing bloggers, not all “liberals” are afraid of guns or want to ban guns and there are plenty of liberal rednecks like me. Thanks for the info and the wake-up call, though.
I even said in the article that many liberals own guns. Sadly, you guys are a quiet minority, and your party pretty much rides roughshod over you. I’d love to see more liberal gun owners out of the closet.
I can’t count the number of arguments I get in regarding gun rights. But then they usually end with “Well you’re from Chicago; what else would you expect….”
Here’s another reason to be armed: http://www.winknews.com/2016/11/14/police-activity-blocks-i-75-sb-at-exit-123/
Wonderful article!
You seem like a condescending blowhard asshole. It hurts me, however, how right you are on so many points. I guess a broken clock is right twice a day, so that’s something. I’m going to rewrite your article (without credit) removing all of the chest beating, cock measuring and rhetorical bullcrap and post it to my constantly whiny, regrettably unarmed liberal friends.
So I’m right, but I was mean about it.
Oh well, bite my ass.
After you plagiarize this (but edited for your safe space), I bet it will be really boring and nobody will read it. After it gets a tiny fraction of the readership this post has gotten, you’ll probably be sad. I recommend finding somebody wearing a safety pin and getting a hug. 😀
Liberals maybe think they’re the only ones allowed to use comedy to make their points?
Yes, yes they are. Shut up and go back to your flyover Jesus country, you ignorant racist hater [/sarc]
Anything a liberal comedian ever said is brilliant social commentary. Anything a funny right winger (he sounds angry!) has ever said is a hate filled screed of hatey-hate-hate. There is no double standard. Racist. 🙂
Or if you really want to see the best display of this ever, go read all the one star reviews on Audible for Tom Stranger. 😀
If Shooter was going for satire let that be a lesson to all that there is nothing so outrageous as to be beyond what a lefty will say seriously.
Don’t forget the SARC tag!!
(Maybe it could be attached with a safety pin 😉
Unfortunately, MojaveWolf, I fully expect that Shooter McGavin was dead serious. When you’ve been around this blog for a while as a regular reader, you’ll see that you and BugMaster are the exceptions when it comes to left-leaning/liberal posters here, and Shooter McGavin is the norm (albeit in his case, a more mild norm than some of the others who have been through here– go back and look at some of the Hugo-related posts Larry’s made to see some of the more crazy ones).
At least he didn’t threaten to kill me. That was nice. 🙂
I think you being an enormous armed man may have something to do with that!
One would think so, wouldn’t you….
People really threaten to kill you over colorfully calling their group a dumbasses? On your own blog no less….
Larry, I’m sorry, but I already get funny looks for my explanation of the tactical melonballer at the range. I think I’ll leave safety pins alone.
This is a joke post right? You name yourself after a second rate golfer/villain from Happy Gilmore and then you accuse someone of being just like your screen name? HA!
This is either a poorly executed parody, or the perfect illustration of the reason why Democrats keep losing elections. My advice is, either get better at writing parodies, or stop demonizing people for having different beliefs than you. Or perhaps both.
Check my Facebook feed this week. I’ve got a hundred people like this screaming in my face that I must be a racist. And I didn’t even vote for Trump! 😀 But yes, they are a big reason you guys lost. Regular America is tired of getting screamed at.
Didn’t you get the memo a vote for Johnson or McMullin WAS a vote for Trump or Hillary (depending upon who you are talking to).
So technically, I voted for everybody. Sweet. I’m good to go.
Don’t forget Stein….
“…hold your horses there, Ché.”
LOL. I’m not certain if your condescension in this essay was inadvertent because you can’t help yourself, or because you’re parodying the Libsplaining that the Left so often engages in when talking to the Right. I’m going with the latter. Whichever it was, I laughed my ass off.
Something to wear when talking to an SJW wearing a Che shirt:
https://crypto.fashion/products/pinochet-face-mens-t-shirt
If I may suggest, this is my preference: http://www.jokertshirt.com/view/16360/che-guevara-mickey-mouse-ears-funny-grandmas-boy-popular-movie-t-shirt
Both. After twenty years of being screamed at that I must only own guns to compensate for my dick and that I’m a ticking murder bomb itching to shoot up a gay abortion school, I can’t help but gloat a little. 😀
We can now officially state that “you must be angry” and “you must be driven by fear” are now officially off limits as Leftist arguing tactics.
When I finally get a .45 ACP barbeque gun, I’m getting “Murderer Extinguisher” inscribed on it.
I suppose you could plagiarize Woody Guthrie and have “This Machine Kills Fascists” on it.
Another great read, as always. Funny how many idiots there are that are completely unable to ponder the question “what if the shoe was on the other foot?” until something like Trump happens then it’s a full-on panic attack.
“Contrary to what Barack Obama told you, Glocks are not easier to get than books. Hell, I’ll trade an autographed copy of each of my published novels for a Glock if you’ve got any spares lying around.”
Hmm. Makes me think of this picture, oddly:
*grin*
The inventory guy is clearly a librarian. They learn in librarian schools that books can only be counted by whole numbers with a unit of measure “each”. Since nobody would order a 0.380 of a book he discounted the point as a typo and went with the most plausible integer.
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“but when an asshole from Black Lives Matters murders five cops or a Muslim blows somebody up they are anomalies and we shouldn’t paint with a broad brush”
Having Lena Dunham call for the extinction of white men, then, rather than condemning her, Barack Obama actually sends his teenage daughter to intern with this crazy bigoted harridan? That’s another good one.
I know at least one reliable third-party voter who switched to Trump after seeing that. Because he has sons.
Thanks Larry. But don’t encourage them to much. I’m hopping prices will move downward.
higher production volume drops prices (as would lowered regulations)
All of the firearms company’s stock prices are down since the election. The justified fear of broad erosion of 2nd amendment right has sold more guns in America than anything else during Lord Obama’s reign. Now that we have another NRA member coming in as president, that fear is somewhat tempered.
Over here in California, no such relief. We now have to register to buy bullets.
As a fellow Californian, I”m glad I have frequent occasion to visit Vegas- now I’ll have to pick up ammo every time.
I bet Las Vegas gun stores are loving that law.
Some enterprising Nevadan ought to set up a gun store in Primm.
I understand that agriculture and immigration check points are being set up near “gun loving” borders to check for “smuggled” ammo, as the new law makes that a felony, IIRC>
I expect every town bordering California loves that law, I know the sporting goods stores in my border town love it.
The essay I wish I had the skill to write. Beautiful!
This is GREAT! BRILLIANT!!–and really needed to be said. I just hope that a lot of liberals read it.
You’ve done a real public service writing this. Now please go back to finishing the Siege book. Thank you.
No offense, but your info is way out of date.
9mm is usually cheaper in bulk than .38, and more readily available.
Good 357s are more expensive than a good modern 9mm semi-auto.
The used market for revolves is scarce.
I wouldn’t part with my Dan Wesson for love or money.
“The used market for revolves is scarce.”
Why would anyone sell a perfectly good revolver?
Reload. Yes it is a bit pricey to get started (a few hundred $$) but I pump out 9mm at around $.10/round (could be cheaper but I like my 147 grainers) and .45 acp @ around $.13/round. That’s .22 LR prices, if you can even find it.
Larry:
I disagree. A 12 gage short barrel shotgun is better for home defense. This is especially true if you live in an apartment building with sheetrock & 2×4 walls.
But rifles are much better in a doomsday scenario.
Any load out of a shotgun that will reliably stop an assailant will power through sheetrock without any issue. OTOH, a lightly constructed .223 bullet pushed to high velocity will tend to break up soon after hitting anything solid, limiting its penetration through buildings, while still being fairly effective against Thugy McThugerson.
if it won’t go through sheetrock how do you expect it to stop a threat? if you wouldn’t hunt deer with it its likely not the best defense round you can carry.
Disagreement noted, and disregarded. There is no one right answer.
From way back in 2007 http://monsterhunternation.com/2007/09/20/carbine-vs-shotgun-vs-pistol-for-home-defense/
The correct answer is to buy all three, a carbine, a shotgun, and a pistol.
And a Mosin-Nagant, because it’s better than anything else:
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm
Little known fact: the muzzle blast of a Mosin Nagant will throw any home intruder under two hundred pounds right straight back out the door or window he came in. Picture the shield vs hammer scene in the first Avengers movie.
And if you miss, the muzzle blast from a Mosin-Nagant will set your foes on fire!
… and then you can poke the body with the bayonet through the window to see if he’s dead, all without leaving the lounge chair.
These guys actually shoot stuff through sheetrock to see what happens. Here is the write up about rifles and shotguns. http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-14-rifles-shotguns-and-walls/
How it is supposed to be handled is that due process is still followed. To end up as a prohibited person on NICS for mental health issues, there is still a legal hearing, and you have to be declared a danger to yourself and others. The idea of a bureaucrat making this call should terrify you, because when given that ability they would immediately declare anybody with depression or PTSD as a prohibited person.
And the people calling for background checks ignore the fact that criminals and crazies get firearms anyway, by breaking the law.
If you are going to commit murder, you will probably ignore little things like complying with background check laws.
Already a problem in the VA. Many vets are not asking for treatment they need because it’s gotten so politicized over there. But hey, at least they can get assisted suicide counseling.
There is a news story today about a vet that called a VA hotline about his PTSD and they sent a SWAT team to his house……TWICE.
He wasn’t suicidal, nor a threat to anyone. But, because he honestly answered THIER question about owning a firearm he was taken in to custody and they left his front door of his house open for two weeks before being let free.
And people wonder why we don’t want socialized medicine…
Even due process is under attack in the form of Civil Asset Forfeiture.
And I figure that there are around 50,000,000 of them who aren’t rioting and burning other people’s property, and they have the exact same Constitutional rights as everyone else. Plus, if a big enough number of liberals become gun owners, that makes the 2nd a 3rd rail political issue forever (untouchable because you’d get burned).
“I figure that there are around 50,000,000 of them who aren’t rioting and burning other people’s property, and they have the exact same Constitutional rights as everyone else.” Thanks for that. A nice antidote to the trolls talking about massacring the protestors themselves.
Mr. Correia, the first chance I get I want to shake your hand and buy you a cold ‘whatever you like to drink.’ A tremendous essay. Bravo, sir.
>Begins slow clap while grinning in Privilege<
Robespierre’s Law: The power you give government to do unto others will be used to do unto you.
By the way, thanks for reminding me about the gun ranges. I live in the bluest of blue states, so I have to drive for almost 45 minutes to get to the closest one. I keep meaning to do that again, haven’t been there yet this year, and the year is almost over…
Funny how attitudes change. Back in the 80’s, when most guerrilla groups were leftist, the Left was ecstatic about the idea of the determined poor standing up to the evil might of first world hegemony. E.g., Ewoks vs the Empire.
Ponder Vietnam, Colombia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and other locations where the ill equipped are able to hold off mighty powers.
Note- Americans are every bit as tough and resilient as any Vietnamese or Afghani.
First, the 2nd Amendment is part of the reason why your next-to-last paragraph is true.
Second, LC addressed your first paragraph with the fat guy wannabes.
Third, do you actually know any cops? I do, and the lack of firearms training they have would make your hair curl. Most cops who are actually proficient with their firearms are also gun nuts.
My twelve year old daughter shoots better than most cops I’ve seen–and the ones I’ve seen are the ones who actually spend at least some of their off duty time at the range, which is why I’ve seen them.
Oh, and police quals are a piece of cake too. My 16 year old daughter could pass any regular police qual in the country.
We used to get ahold of the courses of fire, and do them for fun after USPSA or IDPA matches. For anybody other than the complete newbs, no problem. I would describe most of them as boring.
I know only two cops. One of them had superb firearms training (though he’d been retired for a while when I met him). The other one is a rookie, but also a former Marine, so I think his training is at least decent.
That said, I’d fully expect cops to have a higher proportion of gun nuts among them than the general population; similarly, I’d expect software engineers to have a higher proportion of Lego nuts. People choose careers for a reason.
Ok, I see what you’re saying, but I don’t think it makes sense to guess about statistics. Is there a way to quantify “firearms training” ? If so, there should probably exist some studies that we can use to compare the levels of training between cops and non-cop gun owners.
You wouldn’t even be able to get a consistent baseline number for most cops, let alone tens of millions of regular people. Luckily, the question actually isn’t that complicated. You don’t actually need to be a rocket scientist to defend yourself.
Yes there is. If the department only requires an easy qualification course of fire, and the officer is only required to shoot 50 rounds a year, there’s a good chance you’re not going to get good shooters.
If a department requires a tough, timed qualification, and the officers are required to take multiple training classes per year, you will have better shooters on average.
Keep in mind that even the tough qualifications are still easy by gun nut standards, because when you make them harder too many cops fail. And training classes are expensive, so it is one of the first things cut in the budget.
The hardest qual I ever took was a fed qual for a particular agency (Air Marshall) and it was supposed to be really tough because of the accuracy and time requirements. The best thing I could say about it was that I couldn’t dick around and still pass it. I had to actually hurry a little. 🙂
Essentially correct, yes. The supposedly “well-trained to take you down” elite who are going to crush anyone who dares stand in the way of the government’s tyrannical plans–aren’t as well-trained as the people they’re going to be taking down. And, to make matters worse, many of their best are going to know those people.
Actually, forget that. They’re going to BE those people.
If you think people choose to be cops so they can shoot guns or because they like to shoot guns, then you suffer from more misconceptions than I thought.
This is what the raging Left misconceives as ‘reasonable discourse’ and ‘freedom of speech’ so why are you surprised?
https://twitter.com/AmmyTalk/status/800520250378764289
I think they imagine that insurrectionists will sit quietly by and wait for the SWAT team to get to them in their home. In a SHTF scenario, those SWAT guys, assuming they’re still taking orders, are holed up at FOB City Hall.
In my home? Hell, if it gets to that point, I’m picking my least favorite senator and going to his house. 😀
If it gets to that point, the SWAT team will find an empty house. Think “safehouse”, not “Alamo”.
Yeah, that sounds like a great way to turn “come out with your hands up” to “all snipers, fire when ready” 🙂
And you thereby prove yet again that you really know nothing about us.
Why, it’s almost as if he/she skimmed it.
I’m pretty sure I spent like 5 paragraphs explaining how everybody with a clue DOES NOT WANT armed insurrection, so disingenuous is putting it mildly.
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I’m about as far left as a person can get and I love this. Although I may have been brainwashed by my conservative, gun loving neighbors.
I elected not to vote, I find it only encourages the assholes., though in hind site ice cream may have been an option.
[slow golf clap] reposted. Thank you Larry.
I’m just going to handle that last one.
They did read the part where he said he didn’t vote for Trump, right?
Probably not. I expect that “Trump-voter” will become the Left’s new all-purpose insult to throw at everyone they disapprove of.
Last week I had progs assuming I was a Trump voter because I thought they were being stupid, and I had a Trump supporter tell me if I didn’t like the president, I should leave America. (I told her to make me, and best bring friends) 🙂
Trump-voting cissexual Gamergater, prolly.
They are sooooooooo stupid. 😀
But because I know Glyr-50-Hugos reads these comments, yo Mike, this post had 14,000 readers yesterday, and 15,000 so far this morning. How is your shitty traffic doing? 😀
Shh, it’s near Christmas. He’ll put you on the naughty list.
They project their own reasons for having a gun upon those they call “ammosexuals” with a sneer that’s noticeable over text.
Let’ s see
A woman desires to own a gun
The desire to own a gun expresses a desire to have a bigger … male member.
There fore, a woman desires to have a bigger male member.
Which makes her transgender and questioning her desire to own a gun or shaming her for it becomes a hate crime.
XD
Sheesh, Aaron needs to learn about the law of the excluded middle. The Founders wanted both a citizen militia that could serve in times of war (they were against standing armies), and a safety valve so future generations could do what they did (rebel against an oppressive government) if necessary.
That should have been “the fallacy of the excluded middle”.
Well, and that part where the courts have already defined “militia” as basically all of us. So there’s that. 🙂
Not just the courts. It’s in federal law.
“Besides, while I’ve heard from a lot of people on the US left that they are scared, I haven’t seen anybody express the desire to buy a gun.”
Maybe she should be pointed in the direction of Moshe Feder. 😀
Oh, that Lee is scary (and totally believable!)…put him at the top of the target list, Chris. 🙂
As for Vicki, if she owned a gun I suspect she could hold the abortion providers at gunpoint and force them to give her an abortion (why would she have to, don’t they do this by preference?), or force a grocery store to give her enough food to feed that starving family. You’d think she doesn’t understand how she might put that tool to work. Oh, wait…
Larry, their entire argument boiled down to Chewbacca Defense theory. Logic have no place in this.
Owning a gun won’t feed a starving family.
Obviously she has never visited that magical land called “The Outdoors” where greater and lesser meat-filled creatures known as “Squirrels” or “Rabbits” or “Deer” live in numbers that could feed a starving family for… well… ever.
But only if one has the means to convert them from a fleeing creature to a stationary carcass.
They’re the ones who think that meat magically appears in groceries, in neat plastic packages.
All of the ‘won’t bake a gay wedding cake’ incidents that I’ve heard of were that they specifically wouldn’t bake a cake for a gay wedding, not that they would not serve gay customers. Those same gay people could have ordered a birthday cake and they’d have happily served them. They’re not discriminating against people. They’re choosing not to take part in an event that goes against their religious beliefs.
This will now become required reading for all of the students that wish to take my CCW class.
Forgot to add… stuck on Glocks only…how about a trade for a well kept, pampered, Ruger P94 with about 1500 rounds through it….
You deny the true faith. S&W M&P FTW :p
(Only joking – whatever floats your boat is fine by me.)
I can not express the amount of joy this article brings me. You see I’m mid course in getting re-certified as a less than lethal instructor for the left cost and as a LEO level armed instructor for 3 states (WA OR CA). As I live vaguely near Seattle, and the wife is proud of me she told a few of her friends. My email has blown up from cats I have not talked to in years (sigh). Some days it is hard being a ethical capitalist
Let’s hope we get a AGW skeptic in charge of the EPA! (You won’t convince anyone who hasn’t swallowed the AGW kool-aid by using terms such as “denier,” which we all know is intended to cast us normal folks as equivalent to those who pretend the Holocaust didn’t happen.) As for the rest, if you’re interested in radically down-sizing the federal government, welcome aboard.
If by “constituent nations” you mean the states, you’re on the right track, just imagining the extreme case. Break apart? No, but returning to the states the authority and responsibility the Constitution has always said is theirs? Definitely. A full constitutional rewrite? Again, nope. The Constitution looks like a pretty well-written document as it stands, needing only a few amendments to make sure the federal government and the leftists aren’t able to completely ignore it and run roughshod over it.
I’m not sure why anyone would quote David Duke for valid opinions on Steve Bannon, or anything else. If you’re interested in Steve Bannon’s background, I’d suggest this article instead: http://www.seraphicpress.com/the-dumb-of-all-fears-the-bannon-blood-libel/
Meanwhile, it’s good to see your support for the 10th Amendment. Please consider also the 9th. And especially Article 1 Section 8.
Lol @ protection from the government. How’s that ar vs a tank gonna work for ya?
way to go asymmetric…
Well yeah. What do these people think we’re going to do? Stand out in the open and line up like Red Coats?
I was remembering the old Bill Cosby album…about the red coats and the minute men and the ref calling the coin toss…
I generally assume trucking would just shut down and the cities would riot to death.
If we lose the coin toss that’s the breaks. “Americans have won the coin toss they elect to be able wear whatever they want and his behind rocks, trees, anywhere. The British will have to wear red and march in a straight line. “
It’s the only plan they can come up with, so… yeah. They do think that.
But then they’re idiots so it’s not surprising their imaginations are… lacking.
Nope. We’ll be shooting people like “Guest”. Easiest target available. He might want to scrape off that Obama sticker if he decides to declare war on us.
Looking at one of the comments above, “Stand out in the open and line up like Red Coats” is exactly what they thing we’d do.
Americans didn’t do that in the 1700s, but I guess that’s the way to go now! 😀
Larry,have to disagree on one point. In many battles the Americans did line up just like the Brits. Most of the Rebel army was equipped with smoothbore muskets which they lined up and fired mano a mano against the redcoats. Of course we also lost a quite a few of those battles. We did use guerrilla tactics as well, but those are effective denying terrain, not taking and holding it. Washington was not doctrinaire about it though. He used whatever tactics/strategy needed to win.
I’d blame video games, but then I play Civ and know a real insurrection isn’t quelled by simply moving a military unit into a rioting city so it might be our mystery guest suffers from general stupidity and presumption that firepower decides everything.
You show yourself to know nothing about military operations. As Larry said, you don’t shoot at a tank with a rifle, you use the rifle to ensure that the tanks can’t be maintained and resupplied.
unless you like the sound of 5.56 pinging off the armor!
Does the tone change depending on where on the armor your round hits?
.
Because I see a market for the next level in avant garde music
But it’s not just the tone, you have to fire in a specific tempo and rhythm to get the desired effect. And if the target’s moving, you have to factor in time to target. It’s not a trivial exercise. 😀
I’ll just leave this here:
How do we book them for parties?
A tank without supporting infantry is just a big target.
One of the best war time memoirs was written by paratrooper Don Burgett in his book “Seven Roads to Hell”, which covered his stint fighting in Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge. Note that lightly armed and poorly equipped paratroopers were able to hold out against German armor. How? You ride out the initial attack by the tanks, then attack the supporting infantry. Without infantry, the tanks will get scared and leave.
You have paid absolutely zero attention to recent world events, have you?
And here’s another factor to consider. The typical Democratic party administration isn’t exactly conducive to building up the necessary numbers of men and equipment needed to fight in a country with the size and population of the USA. A Hillary Clinton administration would find itself trying to fight the Second Civil War with two dozen tanks (half of which need repair), one F-35 that will be combat ready “any day now”, and soldiers who have spent so much time attending mandatory sensitivity training that they have never actually had time to learn how to use their weapons.
I think you might be underestimating the hypothetical opponent, Joe in PNG. You may have heard the saying “bad money drives out good”. The same is true of organizations of all stripes, including PD and Armed Forces. The kind of officer that joins a department constantly subjected to creeping tyranny is very different than the kind we are generally used to. Same for armies.
Mandate the right regulations, and you can drive all the “good money” home. You don’t have to go looking for stormtroopers at that point. They’re all that signs up.
Money, good or bad, is one thing that the military under a Hillary administration would not be getting.
And all the “good troops”, officers and NCO’s who had enough and left? They’re now among the “military veterans” on the civilian side. They don’t just vanish.
Thugs and psychos don’t often good soldiers make, and aren’t really all that reliable or loyal.
I’m just trying to point out that the same thing that happened to the universities, charitable foundations, Hollywood and numerous other institutions could happen to the armed forces and police.
Different skill and mindset. The skills and mindset that make one a good professor, foundation board member or actor does not convert into a good doorkicking faceshooter.
No, that’s about how I think it would go. I just don’t think anyone tries to be a hard dictator until the security services will side with them. To me, it’s a prerequisite for an intentional tyrant.
And an awful lot of us remember how to use that military equipment just fine…
The Hungarians gave the Soviets fits, and the Soviets were external invaders.
For an civil war, they get a bit more vulnerable. Especially supply-wise.
Assuming you can get soldiers to obey orders to fire upon their fellow citizens. “Illegal orders” have a meaning, you might wish to look it up.
For “a” civil war.
Figures. The edit option lasts 5 minutes and I don’t turn back to here until about 6 minutes after I posted.
During the initial stages of the Hungarian uprising, the Soviet troops weren’t all that effective, and in some cases sided with the Hungarians. In one case, a tank commander retargeted his main gun on the local AVH offices. And fired it.
Things didn’t really turn around until the Soviets brought in troops from out of the area, who didn’t have any social ties with the locals.
Oh, you’re clearly new to the internet. Please familiarize yourself with the 37,000 other times this argument has been shot down.
I wrote up a detailed break down of this once, but for the life of me I can’t remember where I posted it.
If you ever find it, please repost here. I reckon it’d be fascinating reading.
Kinda hard to put down a civil war when your supply of munitions, fuel, and lefty supporters are getting shot up. And most of the folks making those three items are not on your side.
I can just imagine SJWs trying to run a refinery or ammo factory, while getting sniped at on the way to work.
And all those people out in the boondocks maintaining pipelines, transmission lines, generating stations… what happens when some of them decide this particular switch or that particular valve should not be in the position it’s in any more? Not a shot fired, as such, but poof goes the supply chain.
Send the tanks. Then remember that scene where the Irish and Scots meet in Braveheart.
Hell, they won’t give the Utah National Guard nuclear weapons for a reason. 😀
Nor in Tennessee. But here, the reason is summed up with this well-known southern saying: “Hey y’all, watch this!”
Whereas the Obama administration has gutshot counter-proliferation, whereas it should now be possible to research cheaper ways to manufacture nuclear devices, maybe state governments could make their own?
Given Tennessee’s history re nuclear weapons, that’s kinda funny.
Then again,
They won’t give one to Texas either, but…to be blunt, Pantex.
There is a lot of good advice here. It was hard to read past the anger in your post, but I’m glad I did it. Now having done so, I’ll apply the good sense and good advice you shared. It would be great to learn more from you, especially in a more collegial atmosphere. Thank you.
That wasn’t even angry! 😀
You bare your teeth when you smile.
Like a wombat!
Yeah, if Larry were REALLY angry, he’d bare his teeth like a manatee! 😝
The manatee is the most fearsome of all aquatic mammals.
Pff, where would the manatee be without it’s native understanding of small arms and excellent insurance coverage!
They owe their success to their tactical genius and fiscal responsibility.
Especially if you’re a water weed.
Hardly anger. Just irritation with the benighted idiocy of so many on the left, and their smugness in proclaiming and demonstrating that idiocy as if it put them on some high ground or other. It’s sort of like the old joke about playing chess with a pigeon: it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.
pigeons are democrats? who knew
You got anger out of that??
Whaaa? I have an evil clone? (I am the real Sabrina Chase and I did not post the above nonsense. And Larry doesn’t do angry, he does gleeful amusement!)
You may be a Sabrina Chase, but so am I. 🙂
Ah, OK! Yes there are a few of us out there. I’ll be the Sabrina in the spacesuit, then. Just wanted to be clear who was who….since I have posted here before and there might be, you know, *confusion*.
Isn’t it terrific when clones meet IRL? 😛 Spokeo thinks there’s 91 of you in your vat group. 😀
(It also thinks there’s over 200 in mine, and I know better!)
It’s good I am not Sabrina Chase. That would be too much.
I’ve got you tagged in my head as “Sabrina the SPARTAN” because without zooming in, you look like you’re in in a MJOLNIR armor.
Hilarious!!! Sent an email link last night to a friend of mine who’s also on the left side of the political spectrum and she also thought it was one of the funniest things she’d read in a long time.
Very nice job. 🙂 Sharing this in my small circle.
It would also help if the “frigging liberals” didn’t behave like fascists any time they gain a little power.
Direct your gay friend to that link above for Blazing Sword.
Yep. Be sure to share that message with your liberal friends, but I don’t think you’re going to get a lot of disagreement here.
Sure thing, but, as far as I can tell, the sentiment “remind them that those hoods aint bullet proof and those robes burn easy” is pretty much the opposite of that…
Well done. Thank you.
I am pretty strongly Libertarian, *very* strongly pro-2nd Amendment, and Larry Correia is one of my favorite authors. With that said, I think that insulting your target audience is not a good way to establish/maintain an effective dialog. It is apparently a great way to get accolades from the people who already agree with you though, which makes me question if this was really targeted at liberals.
And I could have written this nice, and boring, and kissed plenty of liberal ass, and told you that your people have been wise and intelligent all along, and your gun laws have been awesome, and doggone it people like you! And then a dozen people would have read it instead of the 35k I’ve had so far. So I think I’ll just stick with doing my thing my way. 😀
Oh yeah, and if they are offended, I truly don’t care. Because if they are actually afraid like they’re proclaiming they are, then they can either suck it up, be grown ups, and do the smart thing (which I outline, however rudely, here) or they can go back to licking the hand of the state.
So again, fresh out of pity.
In so far as leftists have no senses of humor, it probably wasn’t targeted at them. But sometimes you just have to be blunt with some folks to get their attention. Ever hear of a clue-by-4? And some folks can’t be talked to at all without insulting them. 🙂
Great read, thanks for taking the time to give the libs some clear and concise information !
I do like ice cream…
You should be our president… lol
Don’t want the pay cut.
Would you consider it as a part time position? You know, every other Wednesday you go and eliminate a cabinet depart or nominate a strict constitutionalist judge or whatever else needs doing, but other than that, you just keep writing about Owen and crew while leaving the rest of America to go about their business as they see fit.
I like it! Our nearly-absentee President comes galloping into town at the head of the Wild Hunt, leaving destroyed bureaucracies in his wake, and thunders off to his mountainous western lair, only to return when the people he’s sworn to protect and serve are again endangered by the faceless minions of administrivia…
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One nit to pick. It is legal to shoot someone who poses a threat of bodily injury or death to someone other than yourself, say, your wife, child, mother in law. Ok, that last was a stretch.
Go read the link I provided in that section.
So, I live in California, and our gun laws suck and are getting suckier. I’m looking into getting a “featureless” AR. Do you have an opinion on the ARES SCR Generation 2? That’s the gun I’m thinking about getting at the moment.
I have no clue on California friendly ARs. Sorry.
Wait until Kommiefornia actually settles on how sucky they make our lives. There may be another “bullet button” option rather than going featureless. We won’t know until Kamala Harris does her job before running off to Washington DC to replace Barbara “Botox” Boxer
California has its own online gun community that makes it their business to figure out the local gun laws (state, county, and city) so that gun owners don’t busted for accidentally breaking the law. Any questions about guns in California should probably be directed to CalGuns
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/index.php
Good answer. I spent last weekend at the CalGuns.net Super Secret Zombie Shoot 7.5 along with 2 to 3 hundred other gun owners. But CalGuns like everybody else is waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Slow Clap.
At least they’ll be talking to you. 😉
I think it may be prudent to point out that there is a question on form 4473 that some of the more hardcore lefties may have a problem with, especially after the latest election: Have you ever renounced your US citizenship?
BRAVO ZULU!!!
It may surprise some of you , but some of us in tribe liberal understand the second amendment perfectly. That the gun, a well armed populace, is the last defence againat tyranny.
Personally I think liberals not having a gun are stupid. I think we should let people know that we have them, not to use against our fellow citizens, but we have them just in case.
I think too many on the right think liberals are wimpy cry babies. We are not the loudest among us, we have our own silent majority. And we have guns.
Peace out
Then you gun liberals need to get your crap together and get your voices heard, because your party has steam rolled you. And every time there is a massacre your vultures swoop in and propose more gun control.
And yes, many Americans think liberals are wimpy cry babies. Your image sucks. You should work on that. I’d suggest you start by calming down your college students who throwing temper tantrums and blocking traffic.
I agree with everything you said here. I was just trying to find some pro-gun Dems. She’s the closest thing they have. And seriously, anyone whose stance on guns pisses off Huffington Post is on the right track.
“No-fly/No-Buy” is a twofer: Using a violation of the 5th Amendment (“Nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law”) to violate the Second.
So what you’re saying is there are no Dems, at least at the national level, who support the 2nd Amendment.
Tiny penises? What if guns are accessories for giant penises? What if they are traditional Chinese medicine and the mere proximity to firearms is responsible for our muy huge penises? Do they ever think of that?
Tiny penises? Yeah. About that:
What’s really funny is that the average gun toter tends towards tiny guns- Kel-Tec P32’s, S&W Sheilds, Glock 43’s and like.
Do not miss the Facebook epicness involving a certain NY editor and the subject of this post now in progress : http://bit.ly/2fXFD4s
Now Moshe Feder is giving people advice on what kind of gun to buy on Facebook.
Of course, the “advice” he’s dispensing would likely get him and his advisees arrested, given that most of them live in areas where Mere Peons aren’t allowed to own those guns.
Someone has already linked this post over there, and yes, Gersh Kuntzman’s “PTSD” has already been mentioned. 🙂
*howling with laughter*
Thanks so much for sharing that tidbit.
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Nice article. More gun owners the better. Left? Right? as long as we can get them, I don’t care.
Larry,
Fantastic. Thanks for continuing to inject your experience and knowledge into this debate. On a related note, National Review has an interesting take-down (fisking ?) of the recent JAMA paper on Florida’s Stand Your Ground Laws. I think you might find it interesting. See here: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442217/guns-stand-your-ground-law-journal-american-medical-association-study-fatally-flawed
Thanks again.
rip
Yeah, I know Andrew Branca. He did a good job on that article.
Larry , as a Wisconinite, Somnambulant, Wisconsin is Madison, WI…
It is truly a strange place. Glad I fled north.
So I was sitting at work wondering: should I read the comments? What are the chances that some liberal crybaby literally loses their sh!t and has e-diarrhea all over the place? Do I have the self-control to prevent maniacal laughter from bursting out and confusing everyone at the office as to why the boss has gone from grim and somber to lunatic?
I read the comments before everyone else got here. It was totally worth it.
Mr. C – for your next bit are you going to write a post about trigger warnings and going hot: a guide to good range etiquette?
How incredibly condescending.
This smug shit is just like what liberals do about everything, but instead of it being about speech, it’s about guns.
If you have been anti-gun, then you should feel condescended to. Because that’s a stupid philosophy. 😀
Larry, condescension (the voluntary descent from one’s rank or dignity in relations with an inferior, for the purposes of communication) is the only way we can talk to these folks at all.
I’m the token liberal here, and I believe that free speech the most important thing there is — which makes it more important than guns (by definition of the word “most”). Make of this what you will.
except this is not a zero sum game where I have to prioritize my rights to meet your expectations of what’s THE MOST IMPORTANT, esp. if I’d rather shoot than talk (thank you Mr. Eastwood)
The 2nd guarantees the 1st. To paraphrase a t-shirt (that I sadly did not buy):
“I’ll gladly give up my 1st amendment rights for the 2nd.”
“Then I’ll use my guns to take back the 1st!”
And I think they are like building blocks. Pull out too many blocks and the wall falls down. Those amendments are all there for a reason.
Sure, but I think that a country where everyone has a gun but no one is allowed to speak freely, would be less preferable to a country where everyone can speak freely but no one has guns. This way, people can talk to each other and work out whether they want guns or not.
(BTW, I’m not trying to set up a false dichotomy, I’m just trying to illustrate the two extreme ends of the spectrum.)
I used to know a couple from Argentina. I don’t recall what brought the subject up but they told me the government asked the people go give up their guns to help stop an insurgency. They complied. A few years later people started disappearing in the night.
I notice you didn’t mention zombies, so I have to say I think that’s a bit of a copout. I can’t stand your fiddly gun laws. Lucky for me I don’t live in the USA. Enjoy your mess.
“Go ahead. Load up n shoot.” Clint Eastwood.
Amen.
Well, since I make my living by writing a series of bestselling novels about monsters, I’m probably the last guy you can lecture about copping out on zombies. 🙂
Just stand still, or maintain a steady pace, so as not to make the aiming too difficult…
Well, he was talking about lefties. So Zombie was implied.
zombies would be an improvement…
You do realize that so-called “love of guns” and respecting freedom of expression aren’t mutually exclusive, right?
Sharing the link, for immediate laugher purposes.
Those classes did exist in high schools (at least in rural PA where I grew up) as part of the PE and health program. Your lot got them eliminated.
In Idaho too.
Now, non-ROTC students can’t even use the University’s rifle range.
My high school had a pistol range in the basement, which when built was shared between the high school for certain classes and the local PD.
See my reply to TheWriterInBlack, below.
Regarding deer/sniper rifles specifically, this brings up a question: what do you want to do with your gun ? If you want to prevent an armed attacker from entering your house, then you don’t need a weapon that can accurately hit a target a kilometer away. If you want to hunt deer, then you need to apply for a more specialized license (by analogy, class C driver license vs. class B), and this will require more specialized training. If you want to assassinate President Trump, then maybe you shouldn’t have that gun, after all.
Umm…bull. Your analogy is breaking down, big-time.
Right, when I said, “if you want to hunt deer, then you need to apply for a more specialized license…”, I meant, “this is an illustration of my proposal”, not “this is how I believe the system functions now”. Hence my next statement about class B vs. class C driver licenses. Sorry for the confusion — although, it seems like Indiana’s regulations are already close to something like this; so, do you believe that Indiana’s laws are too restrictive ?
Didn’t you one time make an argument about getting a state ID card in order to vote was like this huge, epic, probably racist, anti-freedom thing, and that voter ID was bad? But now you’re talking about class Bs and Cs and mandatory training classes and hoop jumping in order to exercise a different constitutional right, and that’s cool?
And need requirements mean that inevitably the state will find a reason you don’t need it.
In states that have a need requirement for CCW, the only way to satisfy it seems to be that you need to carry a gun in order to still make massive campaign donations to the political party in charge of the issuance.
You really don’t know much about guns, do you? Because this is starting to sound ten year old boys explaining where babies come from.
And if I keep it on my private property, I could build all the machineguns I want. 🙂
I always find the “primary purpose” argument to be a bit ignorant. Are people killed by devices whose “primary purpose” is not to kill things somehow less dead?
“Oh gosh, someone hit by a truck and killed! At least it wasn’t by someone using a gun! That would be SO much worse since a gun’s ‘primary purpose’ is to kill someone!”
It’s also emotive in nature. It implies that it is never good to kill someone. Sorry, but a would-be rapist or mugger or a murderer killed before they can complete their crime sounds like a net good to me.
Bugmasters argument about relative dangers of guns versus cars would have been a lot more compelling before Muslim terrorists discovered how easy it was to drive a truck through a crowd.
Problem with that is the 2nd Amendment. Gun ownership is a Constitutional right as opposed to a privilege.
*grin* thanks very much for that handy list. I’ll send it to my hubby; he gets into a lot of these discussions, and we’re in Australia. Though, some of the things might not hold true here, but I’m sure he can adapt it.
You know that is a discredited bullshit idea that liberals often bring up, regulate guns like cars, but after my people go through the details (as I see several already have) you guys usually back off.
Because I am totally cool with allowing 16 year olds to carry machine guns in public after they get through with their public school provided infantry training class. 😀
The “mandatory training” argument always comes down to that. Someone else’s personal comfort zone. And the comfort zone is usually defined by somebody who doesn’t know dick about the subject.
Gee, the “mandatory training” I got also included butt-strokes and bayonet drill. Think they’d be comfortable with that?
I don’t remember the states or the hours in question now, but many years ago I had to look up a bunch of stats because I was on tap to testify in front of the legislature in favor of permitless carry (that particularbill fell apart, so never did). But I recall one big take away. Comparing the states with more mandatory hours of training, to those with less, to those with none, it didn’t make a lick of difference.
It’s worse than that, Larry. Unless the MOS is some form of infantry, even those in combat arms don’t really get much small arms training. I was artillery, and I knew some tankers too. None of us did more than yearly quals with the M-16 after Basic and AIT. And none of us even touched M-60s or M-79s after that (showing my age, I suspect).
Huh. this was interesting. Where I live we have:
machine pistols (usually 9mm)
machine rifles (5.56 or 7.62) and
machine guns (half-inch and above)
I was just assuming that the US had similar distinctions so every time people were talking about machine guns I’ve pictured someone lugging a Ma Deuce around. Thanks for the clarification.
Yeah, US legal definitions have nothing to do with military definitions. Our laws make zero sense.
How in the world can you even compare guns to cars? Cars are not ‘designed to kill people’ yet they kill a metric ass load of folks every year. I have lost far more family members to cars than firearms, and most of our men go into the military.
Cars are far more dangerous to operate. I’ve seen dozens of accidents with cars some fatal. I’ve seen a few malfunctions of firearms none of them caused a single injury much less death. I’ve been shot at more than once. I want nationwide concealed or open carry.
THANK YOU. Someone who gets it.
***Looks up and down the thread to see copious amounts of rebuttals and ignorance-killing knowledge.***
***Remembers the 73 other similar threads that everyone else also remembers.***
So you’ve done the “skim until offended” trope here.
***Returns to not taking Bugmaster seriously***
Yeah, I know, but I didn’t want to complicate it for Bugmaster. Remember that I taught CCW for free to anybody in the military. I had plenty of times where my basic shooting instruction was the most training they’d ever had. If they aren’t combat arms, they probably don’t get to shoot much. Not always, but that’s the case.
And the single most incompetent student I ever had claimed to have been a Ranger. My ass he was. 😀
Not only no but hell no. Last I checked I have a Constitutional right to own a gun. I have never seen one about driving a car. You are comparing apples and oranges here. What you are essentially saying is that I have to ask the government’s permission in order to have the ability to exercise the right to remove said government.
“Stop. Don’t touch. Leave the area. Tell an adult.” Eddie Eagle
From the “evil” NRA.
And Athena knew Cooper’s four rules of safe gun handling from about the age of 5, and was required to follow them even with toy guns.
One time I was talking to somebody about gun control. I was with my (at the time) 8 year old daughter. The guys said “You can’t honestly expect everyone to remember these four rules of gun safety!”
I looked at daughter. “Correia 2.2 (not actually her real name) what are the four rules of gun safety!”
Immediate response “Assume all guns are loaded. Finger off trigger until ready to shoot. Never point it at anything you don’t want to shoot. Be aware of target and what’s behind it.”
I look at the guy… Smugly. 🙂
I used to work with this guy from Oklahoma (and formerly Miami Dolphin linebacker) who said this about gun control that I still quote to this day: gun control is about how to hold your gun.
What I used to tell my classes was the kids who got hurt were the ones where the gun was kept in Dad’s Forbidden Closet of Mystery. (from the Simpsons). And then I’d ask, who in here had a parent with the Forbidden Closet of Mystery. Hands go up. Now who in here, as soon as Dad was gone, looked to see what was inside the Forbidden Closet of Mystery. All the hands go up. See? There you go.
When you teach your kids about guns, you remove the mystery. It’s simple.
Ya know I pretty much said this on the post where you mentioned the relief of the election being over. I also mentioned it on twitter on the #iamstillher but my account got suspended. Thems the breaks. Grant it my twitter post was “To you #Iamstillwithher pansies that afraid of government tyranny now, guess what the second amendment was for? Retards”.
unfair comparison from the retard point of view…
Awesome post!
Nicely done!
Also, side note. I’ve talked with people who’ve had run-ins with German cops.
Long story short, Buhlert’s got no clue what she’s talking about. As per usual.
I saw German cops walking around with G-36s and MP-5s last time I was there (this year!).
As per the old joke that in Heaven, the cops are Brits, while in Hell, they’re German
Ha! 😀
It seems like Germans swing wildly between Unicorns & Sunshine back Jackboots & Cattle Cars.
But don’t worry. I’d bet good money that whoever is in power, Frau Butthurt would be the first person to rat out a neighbor to the Stasi.
You get a +1 for the “(whinny!)” line alone. Bravo, good sir.
If I weren’t a homophobic, islamaphobic, transgender reverse racist deplorable gun crazed fascist I’d kiss you! But, since I’m all those things and a bag of crazy Christian cookies to boot, I’ll just stand back and applaud. May God bless and keep you.
I’m a leftist, far left, anarchist.
I did however love this article, specially because I live in California. I still have an AK and a sidearm but of course there is no chance in hell I’ll have the ability to get a CCW anytime soon.
Anyway we can agree on two things, government should be as small as possible and liberals are the worst.
I will reach across the aisle on that! 😀
Larry Correia, I would love to shake your hand.
He shows at conventions. Buy a ticket. Get a book. Hear a panel. Maybe shake a hand!
A nice article but pretty much lost on your target audience. Most liberals need the government to tell them when to use the bathroom or they’d crap in their knickers. Trying to get them to assume responsibility for their own safety is pretty frikken hopeless.
BTW, SHOOTING SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY CALLED YOU A NAME IS UNACCEPTABLE!!
Yeah, I do kind of cover that in brief in this essay, and then in a ton of depth in the provided link. Thanks though. 🙂
HEAR HIM! HEAR HIM!
From the article: “Almost everything I’ve ever seen from a liberal publication concerning self-defense laws is incorrect. . . . My reality is the one that the jury instructions will be issued from.”
Just wait until your jury is made up of Generation Snowflake.
Luckily where I live, I’ve got more “millennials” who belong to Generation Kill than Generation Snowflake.
Gun control arguments always run on fear and projection.
*shrug* I could say the same about e.g. anti-abortion arguments. But IMO psychoanalyzing your opponents makes for a very poor debating strategy (not to mention, a poor epistemology).
Since you brought up abortion, let’s talk about that. I usually find that the best way to start is to establish common ground first, then figure out where we disagree. So, to establish common ground: personally, I am against the deliberate killing of innocent human beings. How about you?
Your concern for proper debating strategy and epistemology might appear more genuine if you didn’t lead off with a red herring.
Please give one or more examples of a gun control argument which isn’t based off of fear.
Yeah, but I”m better at debate than you are. So opinion noted and then immediately disregarded. (hey, just like state mandatory training!) 😀
You know, I really don’t get it, and I never have. If you’re afraid of your fellow man, generally, wouldn’t you want as much force available personally as possible?
So, I don’t think it’s about fear, at least not alone. Something else has to be going on that says, “I’m afraid of my fellow man, and I want someone else to do something about it.”
I tell liberals, “hey, you want a fighting chance of winning the Civil Wah you’re starting, don’t you?” Mockingly, of course. I find they are toofa king stupid to even get my point.
Absofrigginlutely fantastic!
(And I concur with Tom on “LGBTWTFBBQ”!)
I doubt “liberals” (and by that I mean of course “tax-happy, coercion-addicted, power-tripping government sniffers and State humpers”) have enough common sense to listen to your advice. But your article reminds me of something William F. Buckley Jr. wrote during the Nixon Administration, when “liberals” were predicting a Fourth Reich. Buckley said, if that were the case, “surely we should be encouraging rather than discouraging the traffic in firearms. I for one want to have a well-stocked armory when the storm trooper comes knocking on my door.”
Ammo’s in stock.
Guns are on the wall.
MRE’s not on back order.
Gas at all the stations.
Gold is down.
Oil is flat.
Everyone afraid of President Elect Hitler is saying how much they hate him…on their personal Facebook pages.
I’m pretty well convinced no one is really all that scared.
Passive-Aggressive is the New Civility.
Nah, it’s just an evolution of the “See how compassionate I am” and “I’m the biggest victim” contests.
[…] One libertarian has the right idea: He treats all this as a Teaching Moment to explain gun ownership and self-defense to liberals. […]
I am liberal and I’ll get off my high horse and buy a fucking gun… but as you noted years of being complacent have help make Cali the biggest gun hating state in the US so I will probably have wait a few months to buy a 10 round BB gun……………… Assuming I don’t get flagged in a background check trying to buy the BB’s… Oh well we will see.
CalGuns is an online community devoted to helping people in California obtain and use firearms without running afoul of the various laws that the state (and cities/counties) has passed to make gun ownership difficult. If you’re a California resident, and interested in getting your first gun, you should check the group out.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/index.php
Thanks I’ll check it out. My brother and I were exposed to a variety of guns when we were young at my grandfathers property in Oklahoma.
I just never wanted to purchase a gun until I had time to go through some formal training, figure out what I actually need, and get proper storage for it in a safe of my liking.
A decent sized investment when your starting from scratch.
Get ready for your mandatory background check to buy ammo too!
Yeah I am aware of that one now… was reading about the bullet stamp requirement crap. Thats pretty damn stupid if not just unconstitutional …
It’s actually a conspiracy to increase the sales of reloading supplies.
Dang. After that I may have to start buying your books! Well done, Sir, well done. {!-{>
Great article. Thanks!
Typo: Von Clauswitz.–>von Clausewitz
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Too bad. I was actually looking for concrete advice, not a condescending lecture. A lot “liberals” who support gun laws are not as ignorant or stupid as you believe. And you know what else? Although I don’t live in a blue state where it will be exceptionally hard for me to get armed, if I did, I wouldn’t whine about it. I’d deal with it. So, that’s all. Thanks, I guess, for this, but it isn’t exactly chock full of practical advice.
Facebook comment sections are like every where else. You will either make a comment and get lots of back pats or you will be eviscerated verbally by an angry mob disagreeing and making death threats. I swear you could be arguing with Buddhist monks and they would still make death threats. Social media has always been such a healthy place for discussion and thought exchange…………..
Sorry dear, but if you support the gun laws you seem to be supporting here, you are as ignorant and stupid as we believe.
To be fair there are reasons other than “ignorant and stupid” to support those gun laws. Mind you presuming “ignorant and stupid” is giving the benefit of the doubt (opposed to “deliberate deception and intent to control”), but it isn’t the only reason.
No, but it’s the way to bet. 🙂
It’s only “the way to bet” if you’re giving the benefit of the doubt because the other reason is “deliberate deception and intent to control”.
They might’ve just been raised white supremacist, and simply haven’t the brains to learn better.
If we don’t want to universally be berated for being stupid on the left by gun owners we have to willing to admit at least some of our gun laws are ridiculous.
Its hard to read a a California gun law and not see how insane most of them are. But states like California are famous for having a crazy set of laws on all fronts.
I am really loving our new 10 cent bullet proof plastic bags they are making us buy…. On the plus side I don’t think my eggs will ever rip through a bag again.
You say “see above” several times.
I can’t tell if that’s humor or not. I’ll admit I’m having trouble with that lately.
By the third time, it was humor. Larry really did talk about all of those things “above”.
Might be true in the mainland; I did my ‘try shooting a pistol’ thing in Guam. They were so badly taken care of my hubby then boyfriend wanted to take the guns apart and clean them. After having shot the ammo we paid for, we left and he said if he’d been told to inspect those firearms, he’d have listed them as unsafe to use.
This is how I wound up with a 1911 rather than the smaller pistol I expected to like. (Though Unlike Shadowdancer, I have rather large mits, but it’s mostly in finger length. My husband’s 45 is too ‘fat’ for me to feel comfortable with though my fingers’ll hold around it. His palms are bigger.)
Hi Michelle! Not sure why you weren’t directed here by any I think you might have been looking more for this post:
monsterhunternation.com/2007/09/20/carbine-vs-shotgun-vs-pistol-for-home-defense/
(fellow lefty, has no idea if you are getting comment reply notifications but just in case)
It’s purely practical, very worthwhile despite the age. If anyone else follows this though just make sure to check your state’s limits on magazine capacity etc–I live in Cali but we’re probably not the only state with limitations (which are about to get worse in a year or so thanks to this really, really problematic proposition we voted in just now)
Tell you what… Send your kids to conscript mine into your proposed slave army, and we’ll see which one of us ends up crying over a flag draped casket.
Nope.
Nobody in the military wants a draft.
Do the math. We can’t afford that. It is economically silly.
And it isn’t the government’s job to teach “character”.
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Larry,
Did not see this posted before, but you are being quoted, and linked to at Bearing Arms;
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/11/18/five-solid-gun-choices-new-liberal-gun-owners/
pretty cool !!
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Thank you, that was awesome! As a gay man and a proud gun owner, I am going to send this to all my friends and family who think that I am nuts because I choose to carry a weapon. I think that after this election they may start to reevaluate their anti-gun stance, and your guide is just what they need. By the way, I am still ROFL at ” LGBTWTFBBQ community”.
yeah, I truly meant no offense with that, but seriously every time I see that acronym being used it is four letters longer. 😀
Last time I looked, they had it as LGBTIA – the last two being ‘Intersex’ and ‘Asexual.’
I know an asexual gets rather grumpy about being dragged into the list. “Why are asexuals being dragged into a group whose main purpose is to trumpet their sexual identity, when we’re not interested in that shite?”
What about the fact that owning a guy significantly increases the chances of getting killed by a gun? Gee, you’d think it would take more than one sentence to destroy that long-ass rant.
Well if you own a ‘guy’, I would hope he does shoot you to escape slavery.
You mean that complete and utter lie told by Kellerman? Sorry, but it takes more than repeating a lie as though its the truth to make your case.
Now, now, he could have picked another bogus study, or, you know, blindly regurgitated something that heard “totally like demolishes those gun nut’s dreams” and never bothered to look it up.
Well, yeah, if you’re a slaver, then you probably are more likely to be shot than somebody who doesn’t own guys.
In other news, proofreading is your friend.
“Gee, you’d think it would take more than one sentence to destroy that long-ass rant.”
You do realize that the topic wasn’t “Likelihood of Death by Firearm,” right? Focus, sweetie.
Ya know, even if your one sentence was the sick burn you think it is- it isn’t- immediately patting yourself on the back kind of sucks the life out of it.
Ooo- sick burn on you, dude!
Sounds remarkably like the ‘fact’ that when all the Dairy Queens open up, it makes the weather get warmer.
That would be great, if it were actually a fact.
Plus, I don’t think you understand what the word “destroy” means.
Seriously, motherfucker, I argued this shit for a living. Get good, scrub. You’re boring me. 😀
Gee, you’d think it would take more than one sentence to destroy that long-ass rant.
Not if the “one sentence” is a completely unsupported assertion, genius. The typo only makes it mildly comedic.
*pats SeaVik on the head*
There, there. I’m sure you tried SO hard.
SeaVik is a strong Warrior for Social Justice. His mom told him so, and who’s going to argue with a shelf full of participation trophies?
Thumbs up, sir. Well-done…and this is from a “gun-totin’ liberal PoC. As my dad would say…sometimes whether you like it or not, “shit is just true and you have to deal with it whether you like it or not.”
This is definitely one of those situations. Not that I have ever been against private ownership of firearms. I just hate that I enlisted in the time period where they stopped allowing you to take your weapons home after your term of service. I totally miss Jasmine (my M-16/203)…that was a hell of a girl!
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Funny thing is you assume liberals don’t already own guns, no one said a Republican was ever smart.
So what you’re saying is that liberals, who are always working toward banning guns, are hypocrites? Well, no one said a liberal was ever honest.
From what I can tell, preventing everyone else from owning guns, having a…let’s call it a state monopoly, is sorta the prelude to their end game.
So you’re railing against a generalization that wasn’t made with a shittier generalization.
Might wanna refrain from judging intellect, Chief.
Remember, leftists love double standards. They also think they’re the only ones allowed to use ’em. Anyone else using such against them IS UNFAIR AND MUST BE VERBOTEN!111
How could I forget? One-sentence-wonders like Scotty here serve as a constant reminder that Leftists find intellectual consistency to be exhausting.
Naw, the funny thing is I flat out said in the article you are commenting upon that many liberals already do.
Man, you suck at this. Liberals, all wrong, always smug about it. 😀
I love it
Someone very important to me strongly resembles your target audience, though she’s not anti-2nd Amendment. Some of her best people are LGBTetc… AND live in Portland. Sent her links to this article and Operation Blazing Sword. I believe she remembers our response to the past two elections. Despite not exactly getting what we wanted, we did not move elsewhere. We did not riot. We may have whined a bit. 🙂 But we carried on. I wonder how many people would understand my using a safety pin to hold the straw on my shirt?
Forgot to mention that we didn’t exactly get what we wanted this election, either. SSDD. I think I’m going to go load some rounds for my pretty “new” 1903 Springfield sporter.
No, this time around is quite clearly DSDD. Heavy on the DS.
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An excellent article.
This whole war between the candidates, and Trump ending up as the winner, reminds me about Vincenzo Natali’s Cube, where the one everybody would least expect should be the last one standing actually did just that.
Larry, you made Ace of Spades. Hope the deluge doesn’t break your servers.
He’s been Instalanched a few times. Should be fine ^_^
There’ve been a few threads where the comments reached 600+ – maybe even gone over a thousand.
I’ve been on Ace a bunch of times before. The biggest hit you get is an Instalanche. Glen beats being on Fox News for traffic bumps.
This is awesome
Excellent…and so are the linked articles. Re-blogged this @ our humble site: https://triggerreset.net/
I think I need a cigarette, and I’ve never smoked in my life.
Outstanding.
Liberals should not own guns. They cause enough trouble with bricks, fire, and parking their useless bodies in the freeway. Leftys and liberals are overly emotional, vicious, vacuous babies with no respect for liberty and justice. The ‘protests’ and temper tantrums are bad enough now. What would they be like if the rioters were armed?
Wow. Starting from there, I do not think there is any common ground between yourself and my moronic misgivings. Sure is nice that we all fit into nice little, easily labeled boxes for you.
Bravo!
Huzzah!
Many of them voted against Bernie Sanders because they thought he was too gun friendly.
A D-Minus from the NRA is not ok with them. A D-minus made him “An NRA Puppet”
They are as nuts as people who try to outlaw abortion to save the life of the mother.
Damned. I wonder how long this screed will take to generate 500+ comments?
This post is outstanding. I like it so much I ordered you first Monster Hunter book! Can’t wait to get it!
I give this comment a 1/10.
Stale, hackneyed, makes no new arguments, and adds no new life to the old ones.
Would not read again.
Well, there had to be at least a few idiots who make the same checklist of arguments.
For giggles, how many points did s/he/it hit on the Internet Arguing Checklist?
I think all 8 were hit for a Bingo!
Contrary to Joe’s opinion, I give this a 9/10, simply because he forgot “xenophobic.”
That was layup, Sport.
Meh. Didn’t wanna look for it. Don’t really care anyway.
The post is like one of those vegan friendly hot dogs. Bland and lacking any real texture or taste.
If you want people to vote on personality, don’t nominate someone whose personality is just as nasty as her opponent’s. That’s not a difficult concept.
Oh, and if Trump tried to assault one of of Correia’s daughters, Mike Pence would be President–and LC wouldn’t have to lift a finger.
No bad Larry. However I do admit I started to lose interest after “STILL LOST. Get over it.” 😉
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Thank You , after reading your article I feel a lot better. Much like after a large fart , I just left the bad feelings go.
According to John Podesta, that cabbage smell was coming from Hillary.
But Correia! You’re not a marginalized Mexican transsexual Muslim! What do you know!? WOW, what a racist P>O>S!!!
If I’m a racist, I sure am doing it wrong, what with encouraging and empowering all those people I must want to victimize. 🙂
None of those 3 things are races…
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This is the best thing written. EVER. It makes the Gettysburg Address look like it was written in crayon.
Beautiful , gorgeous, clear and enlightened thought. Nicely done – my hat is off to you.
To be fair, Larry, his line “probably not very well” indicates that he was trying to be bad at his guesses. Trying to “prove” something about stereotyping and generalizations.
What undercuts that thesis is that his every post here demonstrates that you nailed him.
Uhm…when you do that fighting for the country you love…are you planning on using harsh language?
The .32 Denunciation has really bad stopping power against active shooters.
Apologies for not being clear on that. I was trying to say we would be entering an arms race, so to speak. If killers might have knives, give the teachers guns. If killers might have guns, give the teaches assault rifles. If killers might have assault rifles, then give the teaches armor piercing rounds and a bigger gun…. It is a ridiculous escalation.
I know right? That bit about the teacher arms race was shockingly dumb. This mope sounds like one of the moon landing deniers arguing with astronauts, yet he still can’t figure out why we won’t take him seriously.
That’s weird. I get email notifications for other commenters but never get one for your comments, Larry.
“Arms race” does not apply in this civil-arms context, or in any context of civil arms. No one au courant with the matter of private armaments has used the term for maybe twenty-five years. Fretting over “escalation” is a nonstarter too — it’s already a murderous situation, and you need to control the damage. When the killers die, the situation is de-escalated.
Just another moron here.
No need for the warning. It was pretty obvious anyway.
You’re not making an intellectual argument here or downthread. You’re emoting. This is why you’re getting the reaction you get.
Unsolicited Advice: Read the OP slowly, and completely. Make a fact-based argument. Use reason and statistics. Stop impugning character by appropriating who is supposedly “reasonable.” What you’re using is not reason, by any objective standard..
I have all the MHI books on audio (and print (I’m a fanboy, blow me)). Did anyone else read this and hear Earl Harbinger’s voice?
Awesome. I shared it on fakebook and twitter, on the off chance that some of my leftist loved ones haven’t blocked me yet. Trading books for Glocks? I liked to think that you only carried tricked out 2011s, either custom built by badass monster hunter chicks, or built and magically Enhanced by John Moses Browning himself. What a shame.
I carry an STI 2011. I own one of everything. 🙂
Glad to see my instincts are correct. One day I’ll have the funds for one of STI’s masterpieces. Does “one of everything” include Heckler und Koch?
I’ve owned HKs at times. Don’t currently. Though the VP9 seems like a pretty good gun.
It’s better for the nation as a whole that
Leftists CAN’T SHOOT STRAIGHT.
Bravo!
Everyone should be armed. And questioning one’s own worldview now and then is not a bad idea either. What value is there, in having a wrong opinion?
http://strike-the-root.com/become-dangerous
Here’s my take on the subject (with a shout-out to this post): http://dailypundit.com/2016/11/22/firearms-education/
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Beautiful. 🙂
Sir, I was originally introduced to your Monster Hunter novels. And while I enjoyed them, I believe it is possible that you missed part of your truer calling.
This blog entry is, in a word, Outstanding.
Thank you.
Jim W
EOC(SCW), USN, Ret.
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Absoflaminglutly great post. Thanks.
Paul L. Quandt
Looks like they heard you, Larry:
Trump’s Victory has Fearful Minorities Buying Guns
Wow this great and was relinked to the VCDL in VA. I am going to post to FB and see how many of my demmarxists friends read it. (yes I have many)
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I think you’d be surprised how many “liberals” already own firearms.
Really? Because I only said that in the article you’re commenting on. Now you just need to make yourselves heard, because your party acts like you aren’t even there.
I think it’s because these liberals who own guns feel safe to admit that only to non-liberals that their party behaves as if they don’t exist.
In function, they don’t, as far as their party is concerned.
Mr. Correia, I was introduced to your work by what you did for Privateer Press and a friend recently introduced me to this a short time ago. I just want to say that I loved your books and this post has solidified me as a fan. I wish you the best.
What on earth does SSM have to do with anything? Since you can’t seem to fathom the reason for Larry’s tone, despite his multiple and clear explanations, you might refrain from bizarre analogous reasoning to the majority here who didn’t miss the point.
No one here wants to use this sort of tone, but this tone is a reaction.Take your deep and abiding concern for civility to the “progressive” forums which have abandoned it. Rules for Radicals wasn’t written by a Right Winger. Indeed none of the volumes of civility subverting literature comes from the Right.
It’s moon ferrets all the way down.
They should buy all the Armatix iP1s…
Notice how most concern trolls aren’t exactly models of generous civility in the comments they make here?
They don’t feel like at any point they have to ever be civil to us. *shrug* Not about the topic of guns. (or anything else much if they have their hackles up.)
Indeed. I’m especially heartened by the upsurge in black interest in (legal) gun ownership. The more that community quits looking to the government for something (in this case, protection), the more inclined they’ll be to quit reflexively looking to the government for everything.
Exactamundo.
I noticed this article was cross-posted on the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership site (http://jpfo.org/articles-2016/correia-libs-and-2a.htm). They provide a link back here, but don’t say anywhere if it was “reprinted with permission”.
As some sites have been known to steal other people’s work and post it without the author’s permission, I have to ask: Was that permission granted?
As long as it is attributed correctly I don’t usually mind if pro-gun orgs use my blog writings.
Actually, the Hillarybot Mark MMXVI didn’t seem very lifelike to me.
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Oh look, another Lefty who doesn’t know what the word “fascist” means. Thank God that’s not a drinking game.
History and basic civic understanding aside, the irony of a far leftist donning the mantle of Lord High Protector of Civil Rights is always a good for a laugh. No one’s “threatening” your beliefs, Buttercup. No one is coming for you or anyone else to put anyone in camps.
That’s all your side, Sport.
But kudos to you for grasping the point of the article…unlike a few other of your less pseudo-intellectual kin upthread.