Monster Hunter Nation

The Endless Facebook Trump Whaa Post

I pissed off a whole lot of people on Facebook over the last few days.

I figured I should post this one on my blog for posterity. Backstory. See the last blog post here? Originally I posted that opinion about how I could never vote for Trump on FB. That post blew up and got a few thousand comments over there. I ended up having like twenty simultaneous time consuming debates, and because of the way Facebook does it’s stupid subthreads, I found that I was responding to the same arguments over and over.

So yesterday morning I posted the first few lines of this FB post, making a crack about the prior mega thread. It too immediately began to spiral out of control, so rather than respond to the hundreds of similar comments over and over, I just started putting in edits replying once up top. It got really silly. This may look long, but keep in mind it was written in five minute blocks throughout an entire day as I took breaks from work. I should have thought of this years ago. 

 

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What the last two days have been like on the internet:

Me: I will never vote for Trump.
Trumpkins: Quit your whining butt hurt crybaby, you owe us your vote, so get in line!
Me: No
Trumpkins: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

That, times a thousand.

OR:

Me: I will never vote for Trump.
Sad Republican: Lesser of two evils! SCOTUS picks!
Me. Long winded response about how a short term victory to get an amoral statist into office in our name, will tarnish the conservative movement forever, and ensure authoritarian democrat socialism for a generation.
Sad Republican: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! (only spelled correctly, and arranged in coherent sentences)

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That was the original post. 

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EDIT TO ADD: And look down, already it begins again. I started responding down there, but you know what? Fuck those guys. They’ve proven over the last few months they’re too stupid to live anyway. Why waste time responding to bullshit individually, when I can just respond to all the tired bullshit up here once? It is like an industrial bullshit thresher!

WHAAAAAAAAA you might as well vote for Hillary.
Funny. You low information dipshits elected a democrat, so now it is the problem of life long conservatives that another different democrat will win because we won’t support your democrat?
But WHAAAAAAAAAAAA

EDIt 2:

WHAAAAAAA staying home is a vote for Hillary!
Nope.

WHAAAAAAAAA voting third party is a vote for Hillary!
Nope.

The best thing that ever happened for Hillary was you morons picking the one dude out of 15 she was the most likely to beat.

WHAAAAAAAA conservative SCOTUS!
You should have thought of that before you picked an amoral liberal to be your guy then, huh?

EDIT 3

WHAAAAAAAAAAAA Build a Wall!
Ain’t gonna happen. Sucker.

WHAAAAAAAAAAA! People like you should get out of America!
Try and make me. You’d better bring friends.

WHAAAAAAAA! u r teh suck i not can spell words gud America!
Well. Okay then. (check the other thread this one is surprisingly common)

EDIT 4

WHAAAAAAAA! McCain! Romney!
Yep. A big government asshole and a mushy moderate. Still voted for them because they were obviously better than Obama. Trump is Clinton in an Oompa Loompa costume. Trump makes Romney look like Reagan. Trump makes McCain look calm and rational.

WHAAAAAAA! RINO! Establishment!
So you ran an amoral statist who funds the establishment? That’ll show them.

EDIT 5: This responding once thing is fantastic! I should have thought of it years ago. 🙂

Sad Wishful Thinking Republican: WHAAAAA? IF he isn’t lying recently, and IF he surrounds himself with good people (who he has been insulting and lying about for months) and IF this malignant narcissist listens to advice and IF his clownish behavior is just an act and IF he doesn’t totally drag down the GOP and IF he doesn’t cost us the senate, then MAYBE he’ll be okay? WHAAAA?

Damn dude. That’s a lot of ifs. I want a pony.

EDIT 6: WHAA? Even though he’s been in favor of gun bans his whole life and helped anti gun politicans get elected in states he doesn’t even do business in as recently as 2014, And he’s either lying and made it to 68 before he realized what the 2nd Amendment was for, or he’s just really really slow. And he still bans concealed carry on his properties… But his son shoots 3gun competition, so maybe he’ll be okay on guns? WHAAA?

Good luck with that.

WHAAAAAAAAAAA! He has to fund the campaigns of liberal statists! Because that’s just good business! Sure, he overwhelmingly gave to liberals, and the only republicans he gave to were the establishment types we supposedly hate, but bribery is normal and good! EXTRA WHAAAAAAA!

You’re a fucking retard.

EDIT 7: (this one doesn’t get a WHAAA, because it is more of a SIGH) I’m not going to yell at you or demand you fall in line. Trump is evil. Hillary is worse. I have to vote for the lesser of two evils.

Can’t fault your reasoning. But for me and a lot of people? Trump is a bridge too far. We’ve had moderates and RINOs and held our nose and voted for them. But this isn’t a moderate or a RINO. This is an amoral statist authoritarian liberal, who got to where he was by being a huckster con appealing to anger and fear. He is a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head. He is an insult to the founders, a disgrace to our people, and in the unlikely event he wins, will probably go down in history as the man who ended any hope of small government or individual liberty in America.

I won’t have that stain on my soul.

EDIT 8: These are from the mega thread.

WHAAAAAAAAA Your bad language and hurtful words offend me! You should be more respectful and clean up your language! But Trump tells it like it is Keeping It Real!

Actually, that one is so stupid it shouldn’t get a whaa. It should get a baaaa. Sheep.

WHAAAAAAAA God has forsaken America, insert smug religious nonsense here! Now support my amoral serial adulturing pro abortion casino owner or God will smite thee!

As a religious man, all these years I thought those dumb stereotypes about idiotic hypocritical evangelicals were made up by smug liberals to mock Christians. It took Trump to show me the light. Praise the flaxen haired casino god!

EDIT 9: WHAAA! What could possibly persuade you to support Trump?

He nominates a fantastic VP and then has a stroke before November.

EDIT 10

WHAAAA! I’m poor. You are rich. My roof leaks and it is conservatives fault. I can’t afford health insurance because of Obamacare so I love the guy who supports single payer. Make America Great again! My run on paragraph complains about how unfair life is and you are being mean, then I’m going to complain about your religion and act surprised that in the year 2016 a grown up plays video games.

And the funny thing is, this particular dude opened by accusing me of having a “melt down”. 🙂

EDIT 11:

WHAAAAA! If you don’t vote for Trump you can’t complain!

Oh? Watch me.

WHA? Insert Tortured Chess Game Analogy-in check because of a horrible mistake, but where a desperate gamble can still pull out an ugly win, but closes with a vow to not make that mistake in the next game…

Artistic, except Trump is more Hungry Hungry Hippos speed than Chess. Also, you assume after this victory there will be another game to be had. Not if Trump drags the GOP down with him there isn’t. Both sides will be the same color after that. It will be all big government statism to the end.

You want to talk chess? Try thinking more than one move ahead. Trump win now. Authoritarian win forever.

WHAAAAAAA! You are my favorite writer but I want to have Trump babies and you called me low information so my feeling are hurt!

Good. That was what I was going for. Low information is being charitable. That suggests you are basically a decent person who fell for a con. The other possibility is that you saw through his populist rhetoric, but you actually do want an authoritarian strongman in control. Now that would be really insulting.

EDIT 12:

WHA-sniff. Pretentious literary criticism guy shows up and gets all snide and bitchy because I’m professional writer, then acts aloof.

Yep. I’m rich, popular, and successful. It’s awesome. You should try it some time.

WHAAAAA! No you’re the whining WHAAAA! Don’t say I’m upset or I’ll yell at you more! WHAAAA!

She said, totally oblivious that there is another thread on my page with 3000 posts about Trumpkins declaring any criticism of their false idol whining/crying/butthurt/meltdown. Because when you’ve got no coherent policy beyond slogans, you’ve got to meet criticism somehow!

WHA! Larry you were involved in shaking up this other small political thing involving a few thousand people! Why don’t you fix all the political problems in a country with 330 million people? WHA?

Yeah, dude, I’ll get right on that.

Scrolling through… A bunch more from sad republicans voting for the lesser evil. Yep. Feel your pain. Scroll up. No need to respond to those agaiin. Angry Trumpkins. Roger that.

Ooooh, a new one.

WHAAA! NO LABELS! You shouldn’t call people Trumpkins!”

Forgive me No Labels Police. Writing out Coalition of Authoritarians And Low Information Voters Motivated By Anger And Fear Who Are Now Fully Invested In A Cult of Personality That Will Allow No Dissent got a little long to keep typing.

Now back to work. I have to keep up earning lots of money so the GOP fundraisers will keep calling me. This time I can laugh at them.

EDIT 13: Went to lunch, took care of some NFA paperwork, on the drive listened to conservative talk radio show hosts tying themselves into knots trying to explain away Trump’s authoritarian or nonsensical positions.

Now I’m back. Let’s see what’s new in this thread.

WHAAAAA! No you’re the whiner! I’m not going WHAAA! I know you are but what am I! I don’t care what you think! WHAAAA!

That is indeed a very compelling argument from somebody who feels the need to post on a complete stranger’s Facebook page.

WHAAAAAA! The establishment was owned by Goldman Sachs and George Soros! Oh wait… Trump has only been the nominee for 48 hours and he’s already hired a Goldman Sachs partner and George Soros hedge fund manager to be his finance chief to tap into that sweet liberal establishment money… Uh… Never mind! YOU SOUND ANGRY! CRY SOME MORE! WHAAA!

Ooh, a question I missed from earlier. Which VP pick would make me likely to back a Trump ticket?

There’s a bunch, though I’m not sure who would want to hitch his horse to this dumpster fire, but you missed the important part of my statement, which would be the catastrophic stroke before November.

Lots of You Sound Angry. Well, yeah I’m angry. A plurality of half wits picked the most uniquely unsuited candidate in Republican history. Duh. But I’m also perfectly rational writing about it. We might be at the fall of the Roman Empire, but at least I live in Byzantium.

Flipping through comments the rest is pretty much more of the same. Wow, there are some real braniacs in Trump cheerleader camp. Having those guys as the new standard bearers and big thinkers will be awesome for you guys. You traded in Thomas Sowell for Sean Hannity.

Then lots of posts from the despondent republicans rationalizing having to vote for an authoritarian clown, because he might be better than the harpy.Truly, I feel for you guys. I get why you’re doing it. Just can’t in good conscience pull that lever myself. Have fun explaining, defending, or owning all of his terrible decisions until November though. 🙂

EDIT 14:

LOL! (they put LOL so you know when they are trying to be funny, otherwise it is really hard to tell) This Larry Correia guy obviously has a lot of free time on his hands!

Heh…
He he he
Ha ha ha ha HAW
BWA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAA snort

Oh, wait…You’re serious?
Though that isn’t as dumb an assumption as the guy in the last thread who said I must be a welfare check cashing Obama lover. I can’t wait until I finally make it as a *real* writer and I can write one book like every five years, instead the 2 1/2 a year I do now. I’m doing these edits between breaks working on a real book. Each one takes a couple minutes. Comments like this make me think that most people write really, really slow. It must suck to be lame like that. Get faster, scrub.

WHAAA!!! Electing Hillary will start a war!
Posted simultaneously with
WHAAAA! We need to burn it all down!

Sheesh, make up your mind Trumpkins.

WHAAAAAAA! Trump lives rent free in your head! Shut up or you will be accused of having Trump Derangement Syndrome! EXTRA HARD WHAAAAA!

Yeah… Because how crazy is it that a writer is writing about the biggest news story in the country right now, 48 hours after it happened? I’ll just toss that one in the Better Fall In Line pile.

The only derangement I’m seeing is people trying really hard to believe that Trump isn’t a liberal progressive. That’s like psychotic break level reasoning, but many here do seem to be pulling it off.

And the Naked Trump photo. YOU MONSTER. WHAT HAS BEEN SEEN CANNOT BE UNSEEN!

EDIT 15:

WHAAAA but liberal celebrities say they’ll leave the country if Trump wins!

Nobody is actually leaving. Liberals, like Trump, lie a lot.

WHAAAAAA! 25% of federal employees will quit if Trump leaves.

Nobody is actually quitting. Federal employees, like Trump, lie a lot.

WHAAAAAAA! This is TOO LONG!

But written in five minute blocks spread out over a long work day made it hilarious. 🙂

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I do believe that covers it. I’ll come back periodically to see what fresh forms of bullshit these mealy mouthed motherfuckers have brought up to try and persuade us to vote for their amoral statist over the other amoral statist.

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FINAL EDIT – Oh man, that was fun. For anybody reading this whole thing, it started early this morning. About every hour or so I’d tune back in, read the new stuff, and comment once. I wish I would have thought of this years ago!

I had a mega thread the other day, but with FB’s ridiculous subthread comment system, I realized I was having 20 simultaneous arguments, and repeating myself because it was all the same thing over and over. This was way cooler, and with the added benefit of not having to listen to pedantic twats playing the childish Get The Last Word In game

I Am Heteromediocrity.
On the Election
Mars Ultor
Guest
“EDIT 7: (this one doesn’t get a WHAAA, because it is more of a SIGH) I’m not going to yell at you or demand you fall in line. Trump is evil. Hillary is worse. I have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Can’t fault your reasoning. But for me and a lot of people? Trump is a bridge too far. We’ve had moderates and RINOs and held our nose and voted for them. But this isn’t a moderate or a RINO. This is an amoral statist authoritarian liberal, who got to where he was by being a huckster… Read more »
Zoomie
Guest
Larry answered, but since I agree with him and he didn’t add this, I’ll supplement. Trump will drag down conservatism and small governmentism because Trump doesn’t understand conservatism. His positions are caricatures of right wing positions. When called on them he walks them back. He makes us look like the racist sexist bigot homophobes liberals have made us out to be because that’s what he thinks in his heart of hearts we ARE. He can’t make our arguments because he doesn’t know them. So he damages the movement because he proves every cartoonish strawman argument any blowhard liberal jackass has… Read more »
Zsuzsa
Guest
I’ll admit that I haven’t read your Facebook thread, so maybe you didn’t get this particular type, but I’ve run into a lot of Trumpkins who’s argument seems to boil down to (Jeb) Bush Derangement Syndrome: “Trump is the one who saved us from Jeb Bush. If Trump hadn’t been there, Bush would have been the nominee. We all know that if you aren’t a passionate Trump supporter, it’s because you were in the tank for Jeb Bush Jeb Bush Jeb Bush Jeb Bush.” Trying to point out to these people that Bush was one in a large field of… Read more »
SPQR
Guest

Because Trumpkin are celebrity worshipers.

Chris Nelson
Guest

Most of the Trump supporters I know are tired of the DC bullshit and just want to see the system burn. A few are truly positive. ?!? 🙁

M. L. Martin
Guest

Trump supporters have this odd mixture of Manichean dualism–there is the Pure Good of Trump and the Pure Evil of Jeb/Cruz/Hillary/bogeyman of the month–and amoral power worship, where WINNING!! is the only good, and any and all means are justified.

Meanwhile, my slogan for Election 2016:
“Well, the choices are, it seems, to submit to Sauron, or to yourself. I will take neither. Have you others to offer?”
Tolkien, J.R.R.. The Lord of the Rings: One Volume (p. 260). Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. Kindle Edition.

Christopher M. Chupik
Guest
Christopher M. Chupik

The problem with burning it down is that fires have a tendency to spread out of control.

Carbonel
Guest
No, it’s because people like me believe that we would have had either Jindal or Walker to vote for (with a Carson VP) if the Republican money men and national party leaders hadn’t thrown their weight on the scale for JEB! Aaaand.. (this is where it gets tricky) if the various punditry and conservative media had not sat around with their thump up their butts playing tiddlywinks. Had National Review, FOX, anyone on Twitter and Facebook responded with #NeverJEB! And picked one of the anti-establishment conservatives and rallied behind him…. we wouldn’t be stuck with Trump. It’s been a clusterfuck… Read more »
Matthew Martin
Guest

I think we lost out on promising candidates like Walker, Jindal or Perry in part because the press decided that Trump vindicated all their stereotypes about Republicans and so kept pumping oxygen into the fire.

George Kirby
Guest

But that is the fire Reagan set. The government can’t do anything fire. Makes impossible to govern. It’s even worse. It’s the government can’t do anything fire except the Military government can’t do anything wrong and needs to be a roaring blazed around the world fire.

You can’t blame this on the media. This is the Republican base.

60guilders
Guest

“This is the fire Reagan set”

(Buzzer) Wrong again, as per usual. Reagan didn’t say anything people weren’t already thinking in 1980s.

Brian McGoldrick
Guest
George Kirby, if you have been suffering from Reagan Derangement for all 36 years since he first ran for President, I could almost feel sorry for you, but I don’t. Your hatred of everything America was built on and clear desire to see our nation brought down by the scum in the Democratic Party that is even worse than the scum in the Republican Party disqualifies you from any sympathy. If you really believe what you keep spouting on this page, you should really study some real history and documentation on America, especially the past 50 years the actual text… Read more »
George Kirby
Guest
What is it with conservatives and traitors to the country BS. Every time somebody doesn’t agree with them and have no argument, they jump and down and yell traitor to the country. There is this weird local talk radio host doing this very thing all last week. All the “Never Trump” people are traitors. Mark Levin does that same schtick. Last week he did a whole bit on the Rosenbergs and then claimed other people were traitors just like the Rosenbergs. I don’t even know what people. Somebody is always a traitor on Levin’s show. It’s OK with me if… Read more »
60guilders
Guest

Given that you think Reagan was a worse President than Buchanan, I’m really not sure if that appellation is unfair.

Brian McGoldrick
Guest
You support the elected Democratic Party politicians who are actively trying to undermine the Constitution. They took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States. If you and your fellow Democrats were trying to change the Constitution through Amendments, then you would not be traitors, but you are not going about change in that manner. You know that your ideas would never managed be ratified as Amendments so your party politicians go about it through laws you know are unconstitutional and the use of judicial legislation by activist judges to support and maintain those laws. That make them… Read more »
George Kirby
Guest

OK – still find it odd.

That’s the other thing. In recent days conservatives have started yelling “constitution” but I have yet to find one that has read and understands it. For that matter I have not met one that knows what a constitution is. They think it is a statue.

This is fairly recent because prior to this conservatives use to hate the phrase “constitution” because it meant expansion of rights. So a few years back “constitutional rights” was said as sort of a slur.

60guilders
Guest

George, under what rock have you been hiding, and what have you been smoking, because I want some.
Good night, it’s like you didn’t notice the Democrats switch from “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism” to “Dissent is RACIST!” practically on a dime. It’s called partisanship, and it’s inherent in the system.

George Kirby
Guest

No I missed that one. And same rock now for more than 60 years.

Brian McGoldrick
Guest
I’m NOT a conservative. I never have been. The only political label that fits me is a Constitutionalist. No matter what party platform it comes from, I do not believe any law, agency or policy should be allowed that violates the strictures of the Constitution. If you don’t like the current strictures, change them through the Amendment process, that is what it’s for. The current POS Obaka has said only one thing I have ever agreed with. “The Constitution is a document of negative liberties.” He’s right. The Constitution exists to restrict the power and the overreach of the government.… Read more »
Leah
Guest

this is a bit random but every time you started a paragraph with Waaah, all I could hear were warhammer orks.

Lawson
Guest

What are the deities they worship again? I think there is a new nickname for Trump and his VP in there. I jest but its something to blow off steam.

junior
Guest

Gork and Mork.

And they’d probably be insulted if you compared them to Trump. 😛

Lawson
Guest

That’s their names. Ah, but the names would be perfect. What is a little Ork heresy for good fun.

FeatherBlade
Guest

I started hearing Wario (or Waluigi? Obviously I haven’t played MarioKart in far too long…) about halfway through.

Doug Northcote
Guest

Totally with you Leah.!

I’ve been playing the new Battle Fleet: Gothic Armada, and their ships do a “WAAAAGH” attack at times, special ability. Startles me every time.

I hear it every time I read the above post. Heck I bet Larry could do a good version of it.

About 3 seconds in. I think I’ve got the right URL for that.

https://youtu.be/JXCLtD5batc?t=3

Professor Headbutt
Guest

And that’s why I’m not on Facebook. (Or Twitter.)

Lawson
Guest

While I know there are some Trump supporters that are, well, civil. You wouldn’t know it if you frequent social media often. Seriously, though, a large portion of the ones you find on the internet are horrible. Grant it, a decent portion I met in person also have certain negative traits.

Side note: is it just me or do a lot of the ones that are unpleasant to interact with project onto the person they are debating with?

60guilders
Guest

Welcome to the Internet.
More seriously, projection is one of the most common maladies among online debaters, or debaters anywhere.

Lawson
Guest

I meant to imply that they seem to do it more often and are in general more unpleasant. The odd part is for some they seem to be perfectly rational people, but when Trump comes up they seem to change for the worse. I noticed this with people I interact with in person, as well. It is concerning.

junior
Guest
Certain bloggers – Neoneocon is one, and I think Sarah Hoyt is another – have noted that there’s some odd stuff going on with some of the people who’ve been posting on blogs in support of Trump. Basically, it appears that there’s at least some evidence that there’s some sort of online astro-turfing involved with some of the more overbearing types who’ve been posting in support of Trump. Ace, over at Ace of Spades HQ, had some bannings just because the comments section was getting so toxic with the fighting (in fairness, Ace *also* banned some individuals who were speaking… Read more »
JSF001
Guest
While I am not a blogger, I have noticed it too. People post something anti-trump and all of a sudden you have a bunch of pro trump commenters show up who never left a comment on a post there vigorously defending Trump. I also noticed that on twitter, some oddities as well such as pro trump defenders who seemingly have very high numbers of followers, but very low numbers of tweets and likes of their stuff. I only started using twitter about 3 months and make on average of maybe two tweets a day. As expected with such a low… Read more »
Carbonel
Guest

It’s not surprising. Many Trump supporters appear to be culture war / anti-SJW sorts who are either coming from the leftward side and so are comfortable, or at least familiar with Alinski rules, or are alt-fighters determined to use social media to fight effectively.

We’re fighting over-lapping but not congruent battles against a common foe.

They clearly believe this is effective based on progressive tactics in the past.

We’ll see.

Lawson
Guest
Ya, went to NRO’s comment section recently. They are flooding the place, angry or annoyed that the NRO is not backing Trump. It is odd seeing comments for articles or posts that are just pointing Trump’s flaws being decried as hit pieces, despite the fact that they seem to be factual. Well at the very least the supporters can’t provide evidence to refute the points of the article or post. Bringing up stats about Trump’s probability to win also seems to be problematic or irrelevant because they are wrong for whatever reason. Reminds me of my friend who supports Sanders… Read more »
Robin Munn
Guest

One of the somewhat-regular commenters at Instapundit, Tempo##### (can’t remember what the numbers in his handle are), at one point said, “If the GOP steals the nomination from Trump, I’m probably going to vote for the Democrat in protest.” Now, whenever I see him comment, I say, “Hey, aren’t you the guy who said he was planning to vote for the Democrat? Why, yes. Yes, you are. So tell me again what a principled conservative voter you are.”

I had actually been suspecting him of being a “moby” before that comment of his, but that one confirmed it for me.

Christopher M. Chupik
Guest
Christopher M. Chupik

Considering how so many Trump supporters act as if the coronation of King Donald is a sure thing, you have to wonder why they’re so upset that some people refuse to back him. If he’s such an unstoppable juggernaut, it shouldn’t matter, should it?

BobtheRegisterredFool
Guest
BobtheRegisterredFool

Patrick Ruffini claimed that certain pro-Trump twitter posters appeared to be general ad sock puppets for hire.

Others have alleged wording that implies their native language isn’t English.

The picture is either East European hackers running a bot net for hire, or Russian ones doing it for a political end.

James
Guest

That ‘no labels’ crap is so stupid as to need about three hours and a dry erase board in order for me to show how language and words work by identifying items, people, places, and ideals with, you know, words (labels). But apparently words is bad.

Fruitbat44
Guest

Not voting for a guy who is on “your team” (NB: the ” ” ) because he’s a total jerk? To me that seems like a very good attitude.

Will E
Guest

How can he not build a wall if he’s elected? Even if he didn’t mean it the first time he said it, he’s now repeated it so many times, and made it so central to his campaign, that he’d lose all his supporters in a second-term election.

Aimee M
Guest

0bama got elected on the promise that he would close Gitmo.

Twice!

Yu-Ain Gonnano
Guest
The same way he’s said that despite his tax plan, taxes could go up. His plan wasn’t “a tax plan” it was “the start of negotiations”. Some of it won’t survive the negotiation process. While this is invariably true, signaling this early in the process is a very bad sign and puts you in a very weak negotiating position. The same will happen with the wall: “We have to negotiate and you don’t get everything you want because the other party also has to vote for it too.” And that’s assuming that environmental impact assessment doesn’t take a decade. BTW,… Read more »
Appalled Anonymous
Guest

Hello Larry, I’m just as dismayed as you a the current state of affairs. I can see you have been paying much more attention than me during all these years (I mostly devote my time to work, family, and playing the accordion). What books should I read to get my bearings on this mess? Preferably something written in the last 100 years or so, I tried reading Publius but couldn’t make heads or tails of it.

gmmay
Guest
Do Not Understand the “But, but, but…SCOTUS picks!!” argument with Trump. What evidence does anyone who supports Trump have that he’s going to pick even moderate justices? Does any conservative or even Libertarian believe that a moderate is what the SCOTUS needs?? Because lemme ask ya, how is John “It’s A Tax” Roberts working out? I mean, any argument FOR Trump can be objectively labeled as “wishcasting” since there’s not one iota of proof or evidence that he’s going to do anything remotely conservative should he be so lucky as to win. He’s even more a blank slate than Obama.… Read more »
Zsuzsa
Guest

Re: Judicial “moderates”: these are the judges who believe that it’s only sometimes acceptable to throw out the text of the Constitution and declare their own personal beliefs to be the immutable law of the land.

On judges, I’m very much a “strict Constitutionalist or bust” kind of girl.

jdgalt
Guest

Maybe he should name one or two people he’d nominate for the Court. If one of them is Andrew Napolitano it might even convince me to vote for him.

gmmay
Guest

Not sure why some people think Trump is special because I and many other conservatives won’t vote for him. I wasn’t going to vote for most of the other R candidates either.

Trump is a snowflake, but he’s not a special one.

Kirk
Guest
We got to Trump because of the establishment blowing off the concerns of the “wild-eyed conservative base”… Like, the Tea Party, and everyone who voted for a Republican Party that promised to do something about the BS in Washington. We gave them the numbers, and they did… Nothing. After watching Boehner stab Cruz in the back, and the whole host of others working with him, I’m pretty much done with the Republicans. Period. Cruz was the least bad candidate, and they decided they didn’t want him because he was too likely to break their rice bowls. By following the Constitution.… Read more »
Chris Nelson
Guest

To quote my uncle, “The system needs an enema…”

Republicans got handed a golden opportunity after Bill Clinton left office and wasted it feeding at the trough with their buddies. They didn’t even try to secure borders after 9/11, too many business buddies making money on the people invasion.

Kirk
Guest
Exactly. I’ve got no illusions about Trump, at all, but right now? I’m thinking the smart move would be to vote for the candidate that’s going to do the most damage in the shortest time, so as just get this crap over with. I don’t know if I’ll feel that on Election Day, and I will probably change my mind, but right now…? After watching that smarmy piece of shit Boehner talk about Cruz the way he did, and hear how he’s been “working with” the Democrats? It’s past time to break all these people’s rice bowls, blow up the… Read more »
Richard McEnroe
Guest

Trump says he doesn’t need us to win but Trumpzis are are sdtroking out threatening us tonfall in line. One of these things is not like the other.

M. L. Martin
Guest
The followers can be more fervent that the head of the movement, at times. I know Trump scares me more in his most vocal online followers than in himself. But let’s see if Trump keeps up with “I don’t need you” after a month or two. If he does, I may have to rethink one of my counterarguments against John Wright–rather than breaking the power of the Press, Trump is their creature and will cave once they really turn on him. If he can withstand the pressure to bring in the base, though, he may even be able to withstand… Read more »
Brian McGoldrick
Guest

You forgot the wacko old bat Killary voter, whose hubby is the only property owner in the whole county. She was a great laugh.

Arwen
Guest

But Byzantium gets conquered by the Muslims. Maybe I’ll pin my hopes on SMOD.

Christopher M. Chupik
Guest
Christopher M. Chupik

But that was about a thousand years after the Roman Empire moved there, so it’s not a bad example. Nothing lasts forever, sadly.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

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Patrick Chester
Guest

I’m amused at the “You voted for McCain and Romney so you MUST vote for Trump” claim. Even with your points about neither of those two (combined) being nowhere near as bad as Trump it’s almost as if they never heard of:

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
…Trump(y is MAGIC) would be THREE times.

So… no.

If that metaphor doesn’t ring a bell, perhaps something more contemporary:

The running gag in the Peanuts comic strip where Charlie Brown would try to kick the football held ever-so-helpfully by Lucy.

Again… no.

boballab
Guest
Some bought the Magic Beans that Trump was selling early on. Others are in the denial stage of grief and are lashing out looking for something to latch onto, that is can’t be that bad and here people like Larry and I are pointing out that yeah it is that bad so you get those responses you saw in the post. Just remember the story of Cassandra, she wasn’t hated for being wrong, she was hated for being right and the ones that failed to listen then blamed her for the consequences of their own actions. Things are going to… Read more »
Glenfilthie
Guest
Well it’s been that kind of game hasn’t it? There’s a lot of people been hurt by both parties and there’s only three bad options. But from where I’m sitting – you’re the one that’s whining . Your choice at this stage Larry, is simple: get on board with the team or get out. Your bitching and whining serves only yourself and possibly Hillary but it won’t change anything. The productive middle class working white man has been mocked, ridiculed, discriminated against, marginalized, labelled, stereotyped, discriminated against, guilt tripped – the only thing that they haven’t done is soak him… Read more »
Brian McGoldrick
Guest
Yep, we’ve been “mocked, ridiculed, discriminated against, marginalized, labelled, stereotyped, discriminated against, guilt tripped”, and now many of the rest you are being mocked and played for imbeciles by an orange baboon. Before Trump announced his candidacy, he had a closed door session with the Billary pair. If this election reaches the point where he looks he wins, he will drop out or do something so moronic it will be certain to tank his own campaign. From the beginning, I’ve been convinced that the only reason he was running was to screw up the election and make sure Killary had… Read more »
Glenfilthie
Guest
Errrr…we’re all laughing. Trump will win by a landslide. You heard it here first! Look, boys – I know we aren’t going to agree. But it is what it is. Some idiot is yapping about orange baboons, completely oblivious to the black one currently in the Oval Office. This nation loves monkeys. Cruz, like all the other previous repub candidates – is a gentleman. If you run a guy like like that against a thieving, cheating shrew like Hillary, he will lose like a gentleman too. Another petulant moron is whining about ‘ rule of law’ Really.. In case that… Read more »
60guilders
Guest

Yeah, I’ve noticed. So your solution for dealing with the snake gnawing at Yggdrasil is to introduce another snake? Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
The only positive thing that can be said about a Trump presidency is that he might bring things to a head quickly enough that the explosion will only take the form of rioting rather than full-blown civil war.

richard mcenroe
Guest

Trump won less than 40% of less than 1/3 of the American voting public. Where do you see this landslide coming from?

George Kirby
Guest

Same place that people saw the Romney landslide coming from.

60guilders
Guest

And the rule of law. It also serves that.
When it’s all burned down, SOMEONE needs to be able to say that they didn’t set fire to the forest.

TRX
Guest

Congress and the courts have so perverted the “rule of law” that they’re little better than the local warlord saying “because I say so.”

They make the laws, interpret them as they please, and simply ignore them when convenient.

Very much like the British colonial government did when they were in charge.

60guilders
Guest

So, the solution to the problem is to…have more of the problem?

JSF001
Guest
“Your bitching and whining serves only yourself and possibly Hillary but it won’t change anything” Yea but your supporting of Trump is only going to strengthen the democrats. Trump Is the perfect GOP candidate for the Democrats. Politically he completely indistinguishable from Hillary. If he somehow managed to get elected he’d do all the exact same things Hillary would, except because is a “Republican” those wishy washy Rinos that you despise so much will have no issue going right along with it with zero resistance. Next Mass shooting, say hello to gun control you’re getting it under Trump while with… Read more »
Patrick Chester
Guest

So the Dems and SJWs have “mocked, ridiculed, discriminated against, marginalized, labelled, stereotyped, discriminated against, guilt tripped” us so we need to elect the Dem disguised as a Republican? Yeah, that’ll show ’em.

Get on board or what? You’ll make sure those of us who are Not of the Body are “mocked, ridiculed, discriminated against, marginalized, labelled, stereotyped, discriminated against, guilt tripped” etc., etc.?

richard mcenroe
Guest

The productive middle class man just voted for the guy who screws his middle class contractors. Starting to think some mockery is warranted.

Pave Low John
Guest

Oddly enough, the one thing that soured me for good on Trump was his inability, on two occasions, to describe what the nuclear triad consisted of. The first time, okay, maybe he got ambushed a little bit and just brain-farted. The second time? same question from the same interviewer (Hugh Hewitt)? That’s just UNSAT. Q-3, as they say in the flying world. I’ll never vote for someone that lazy and/or stupid.

Kudos to Larry for calling out the mouth-breathers who are running around the internetz like a battalion of trunk-monkeys.

jdgalt
Guest
I’ve thought of one reform that would fix the problem. The trouble is that it will take a ConCon to get it enacted: Abolish the electoral college, and abolish all primary elections for President and VP. Have only the general election, with all candidates included — but use Instant Runoff voting (AKA the Australian preferential ballot) so that no matter how many candidates there are, somebody winds up with a majority anyway. What this accomplishes is two-fold: (1) it destroys the party machines, and (2) it enables voters to vote for the minor party of their choice without “wasting their… Read more »
Luchs
Guest

Then people will complain about slates. 😛

richard mcenroe
Guest

If you do that, NY, MA, Chicago and CA run the country forever. Every agricultural state with a college town will find its rural vote swamped by the urban concentration. It’s a license for disenfranchisement. The Founding Fathers did not institute a simple mob democracy for excellent reasons.

junior
Guest

Plus, if there’s ever a close vote, then be prepared for Florida 2000 on a *nationwide* scale. If you thought Florida was bad in 2000, just wait until every single vote cast across the entire country has to be recounted, challenged, recounted again, challenged again, etc…

It would be a national nightmare.

Matthew Martin
Guest

I’d like to see more states adopt allocation by congressional district–it might diminish the power of urban centers.

Kazriko Redclaw
Guest

After 19 years of being a registered Republican, I’ve finally gone from a lower-case l libertarian to upper-case L… I give up, they’re not worth saving and I’m not wasting any more time trying.

martin
Guest
Well Larry i agree with almost everything Trump you wrote except one small bit… you give the guy credit by thinking he has an agenda (whatever that might be, apart from satisfying the powerhunger) I believe he is just a trigger-happy idiot (lowest iq ever for a presidential candidate by far) that has learned to adapt to the general demand (which would explain why he has changed his stance on an issue at least 20 times until now).. Usually As an expert in some matter you would look for that quality in a presidential candidate so you can influence him… Read more »
RandyGC
Guest

Only one small area of disagreement.

For: “WHAAAA but liberal celebrities say they’ll leave the country if Trump wins!” my response would be “promises, promises, don’t let the door hit you in the butt.”

For “WHAAAAAA! 25% of federal employees will quit if Trump leaves.” That would be a feature, not a bug. And again, “promises, promises, don’t let the door hit you in the butt.”

Robin Munn
Guest
Which is why Larry’s counterpoint to both of those was, “Yes, that would sure be nice, but they’re lying. They aren’t going to leave/quit if Trump wins.” Seriously: if I actually thought that 25% of federal employees would quit if Trump wins, that would turn me from a Never-Trump voter into a Trump voter immediately. No matter how much damage he does to the country (and it would be a lot) as President, it would be less bad than the benefit we’d get by reducing the number of bureaucrats by 25% in one shot. But since I agree with Larry… Read more »
Patrick Chester
Guest

It would be tempting, but the Federal Aristocrat class is about as trustworthy as Trump. I.e., I can trust them about as far as I can throw them.

Zsuzsa
Guest

I’m sure we all remember how Alec Baldwin left for Canada the day after Bush’s inauguration and didn’t set foot in the US again for 8 years.

Scott
Guest
Hey Larry, I enjoyed your panels at LTUE this year (and last year). Especially that first early morning panel on Writing a War: Political Unrest, and the Friday “It’s a Book, Not a Baby” panel. Any panel with you, Michealbrent Collings, John Brown, or Peter Orullian on it is definitely worth the price of admission. Romney announced today that he’s considering an independent run. If he does that, do you think there’s any chance of Bernie Sanders doing the same thing and having an open race this year instead of the same old two party crap? Also, if the results… Read more »
Sergey
Guest
It’s funny that the perception on the principled left is similar – we get a free-trade chickenhawk republican hag vs a free-trade jingoistic republican clown. And that e.g. Bill was DINO – a socialist who signs NAFTA or ends welfare, really (disclaimer, I don’t like wellfare either)? Republican candidates on the other hand have been moving steadily to the right over the decades on everything from taxation to war. On Trump, I think the main thing that happened here is this – for at least a few decades, the far-right would have been behind, if in addition to the usual… Read more »
The Phantom
Guest
Going through the list of WHAAA I really can’t fault your reasoning, Larry. It might be better if Hitlery wins and destroys the DemocRat party. If Trump wins, you can pretty much expect the result to be the same, except then it’s the Republican Party getting destroyed. Although, given they are the Party Of Stupid these days, that might not be the worst thing either. As a Canadian I can say that, I won’t have to live through it. Besides, if the American dollar tanks I can get cheap ammunition again. .338 boat tails are like a buck each here.… Read more »
JSF001
Guest
I disagree with Hillary being elected destroying the democrat party. At most if we are really lucky it would be some slight damage to the Democrat party in reality it would pretty much business as usual. She has has a number of things going for her, first she’s a Democrat, and as long as a democrat says the right things liberals tend not to care about corruption. (the number of democrats charged with corruption is greater than the number of republicans by a good margin) Second most of the media is liberal, who will do there damn best to protect… Read more »
George Kirby
Guest
I think Hillary will do fine. I actually think she will do better than Bernie because I think she might be more likely to get things passed. There is hope that Democrats get the Senate back and it is thought Trump helps with that. That still leaves the House. It is going to take a lot of Demographic change before Democrats can take back the house and reverse the Gerrymandering. That’s going to involve taking back some Governorships. I don’t think we get a functioning government in my lifetime. The reason the media is biased is because reality has a… Read more »
60guilders
Guest

“I don’t think we get a functioning government in my lifetime.”

Given that your definition of “functional” seems to be “supports leftist identitarianism”, from your lips to God’s ears.

“The reason the media is biased is because reality has a well known liberal bias.”

(Buzzer) Wrong, as you are about so many things. The reason the media is biased is because they know nothing about anything but journalism, which is a different animal from reporting.
I recommend looking up the “Gell-Mann amnesia” and “Dunning-Kruger” effects.

George Kirby
Guest

Right you are. It has been downhill since Reagan – maybe the worse president in history. The ship is turning but it is slow. Still, I might last long enough to see Georgia blue and Texas purple. Wouldn’t that be something.

60guilders
Guest

Now, see, I know you’re a troll. Anyone who doesn’t put James Buchanan in the top spot isn’t a serious thinker–he’s a partisan hack with delusions of grandeur.
But, then again, we knew that already.
Sorry, buddy, but if you get what you want, in a few short years my grandchildren will be fighting off the hordes of urbanites who’ve managed to run out of food. And this country will be deep, deep red for the rest of their days.

The Phantom
Guest
“I don’t think we get a functioning government in my lifetime.” That’s because what you think of as a “functioning government” is the whole population being spoon fed with free cheese from cradle to grave. That’s a physical impossibility, it -can’t- happen. What you socialists don’t understand is that every time you get what you want, like Obama Care, women in combat, gender-fluid bathrooms, what’s actually happening is that the Universal Spring of Consequence is getting compressed another notch. When that spring finally pops, as it inevitably does, you get Syria. Revolutionary France. Russia in 1917. Hillary is going to… Read more »
BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

Hillary was SecState for Obama for four years before their combined screw ups meant she had to go. Obama’s screw ups finally overcame the ‘new car smell’, and would’ve made this election a gimme with anyone but Trump. Hillary gives us a good opportunity to elect Pat Buckman on a third party ticket in 2020.

RoadRunner
Guest

Larry, you ROCK! I’m almost tempted to get a Facebook or Twitter account just to read your smack-downs of idiots. But instead, I’ll just keep reading your blog, waiting for your next book so I can throw money at it (I always buy both the audiobook and the e-book versions).

Thank you for making me smile during a depressing time.

John R. Ellis
Guest

For me, Trumpkin is the brave, honest dwarf hero from C.S. Lewis’ The Chronicles of Narnia. While I’m sure Jack is currently enjoying Aslan’s Country and doesn’t care, might I suggest “Trumpoid” or “Trumplet”? 🙂

Jerry The Geek
Guest

Larry, your depiction of these jerks is excellent.

I’ve got a stack of your books; I’ll keep buying them.

The cementers you’ve so succinctly trashed remind me of a line my old College Roomie used:

“Smells like fish; tastes like Lamb”

Vivienne Raper
Guest

I haven’t read the thread, but Trump isn’t a conservative. He’s alt-right. The alt-right originates in the international urban culture that inspired Stuff White People Like (I call this the ‘unCulture’).

Both the Democratic and Republican candidates are unCulture this time around. Finding a non-authoritarian politician in the unCulture is like trying to find a unicorn in the New York subway.

Eric
Guest

Worse. You can find ANYTHING in the New York subway 🙂

Tomyironmane
Guest

“25% of federal employees will quit…” Leave it to you to find the silver lining.

Netpackrat
Guest
I am not necessarily hostile to Larry’s position on voting for Trump, and his rage at the current situation is also my rage. For the first time in decades we had the chance at a candidate who practically worships the Constitution, and it was $%^&ed up due to the power of stupid people in large numbers. I really thought that Cruz would be able to pull it off, in the end. However for me, it comes down to one simple thing. While Trump may in fact turn out to be just as bad, Hillary Clinton must never again be allowed… Read more »
RoadRunner
Guest
The only problem with your outlook is that Trump and Shrillary are two sides of the same coin. Shrillary isn’t really evil; she is just looking out for herself. Her wants and desires trump everything else (SWIDT?); nothing else matters. She doesn’t care about the country, the American people, the democratic party, or other politicians (unless she gets something from them, and then she only cares as long as she benefits). She’s in it for Shrillary. Laws don’t apply to her (she’s above them), and anything she does is fine as long as she benefits. Trump is exactly the same.… Read more »
Netpackrat
Guest

That’s my point right there. Hillary has already done those things. Nobody who has done what she has done should be allowed to sit in the big chair. I’m sure Trump will do things that I don’t like, but he’s not actively anti-American. He’s just, as Larry put it so succinctly, amoral. Hillary is an evil, deceitful, traitorous bitch who already has the blood of too many good Americans on her hands.

George Kirby
Guest
My choices are Hillary or Bernie. I like Bernie for policy but I like Hillary for the election. I am looking forward to the first woman president. When you say she should be allowed to sit in the chair, allowed by whom? It may be that the Donald is allowed to sit in the chair. If he is so allowed, he was the best of the 18. Democrats can make a deal with the Donald. Yes I know he is nutty, but still like he says on Minimum Wage – he isn’t the normal Republican. But I don’t think it… Read more »
60guilders
Guest

Ladies and gentlemen, observe, if you will, the true reason why George Kirby is down with the Donald. He, too, is an identitarian, and he sees in Trumps rise the destruction of any opposition to leftist identitarianism besides rightist identitarianism.
Or, in other words, he’s a fool, but we knew that already.

BobtheRegisterredFool
Guest
BobtheRegisterredFool

Trump may be evil enough that he is jobbing for Hillary now. If he can go a month without saying something unnecessary that alienates a constituency he needs, there would be evidence against that idea. As it is, he seems to be trying to provoke a reaction that would justify him taking his marbles and going home in a hissy fit.

Daast
Guest

I think you are being much too harsh on The Donald. He’s working very hard to unite the party. I mean, when was the last time Santorum, Graham, and Ryan agreed on anything? But the nausea inherent in contemplating pulling the lever for Agent Orange brought us all together. Unity!

George Kirby
Guest
In some ways I agree with Larry but I have different reason. If I had to get a Republican President, Trump was the best of the lot. Democrats can make a deal with Trump. Consider the minimum wage. And I suspect he will be a bigger dove than Hillary. There are other things I like about Trump. The most tiresome of all voters is the Christofascist that want law to give their superstitions the force of law. They were oh so principled. Now that have someone who has fantasies about his daughter, whose wife we have all seen naked, and… Read more »
60guilders
Guest

How to tell you don’t need to take someone seriously: They use the term “Christofascist” unironically.

Zsuzsa
Guest
“Supreme Court? Sure. He would love to nominate the Supreme Court for the conservatives and ensure he can use imminent domain to get property for his casino.” Quick history lesson, not for you but for anyone who might read this and think what you said bears any resemblance to fact: What’s the most famous supreme court decisions on using eminent domain (note spelling BTW) for “economic development purposes”? Kelo v New London, a 5-4 decision where the court ruled that the government could use eminent domain on land that would then be sold to another private owner. In other words,… Read more »
George Kirby
Guest

You just verified my facts.

60guilders
Guest

Except she didn’t, but we already knew that you are a man capable of infinite self-delusion.

George Kirby
Guest

No she did – your candidate that was going to self fund, but now isn’t, didn’t want anything to do with minimum wage but now will, isn’t going to nominate Lying Ted like some conservatives have suggested. His interest is the other way. Trump agrees 100% with the decision. He said so. Here you go:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen

Now to give credit where credit is due, I didn’t think this up all by myself. Credit goes to that constitutional scholar and right wing talk show host extraordinaire, Mark Levin last week.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/10/06/trump-eminent-domain-even-for-private-projects-is-wonderful-thing-youre-not-taking-property/

“Not own facts and all that.”

George Kirby
Guest

Except she did. Trump is on record of being 100% for Kilo.

BTW – I didn’t come up with that Supreme Court argument. That was courtesy of Mark Levin. It’s been fun listening to him sputter this last week.

60guilders
Guest

Except she didn’t. He wouldn’t be nominating a conservative, he’d be nominating a collectivist authoritarian like yourself.

S1AL
Guest
Larry, here’s my issue with the whole thing: Trump is arguably more conservative than about 75% of the candidates that have run in the Republican primaries over the last several cycles. McCain? Kasich? Hell, aside from being an active Mormon, I can’t even in good conscience refer to Romney as any kind of conservative. Cruz is the ONLY one to have run on an actual conservative platform since freaking Reagan. The few others who ran on a semi-conservative platform were actually just Libertarians who maybe advocated against late-term abortion. But, for some reason, Trump is worse than all of those… Read more »
RoadRunner
Guest

Trump more conservative than McLame or Kasich? Spoken like someone who is totally unfamiliar with Trump’s political leanings prior to the last year. If you do a little research, instead of relying on the LSM, you’ll find out that Trump was a democrat, supported democrats, supported liberal democrat talking points (like gun control), and was best buds with liberal democrats. I don’t remember McLame, Romney, or Kasich donating to liberal democrats recently.

Rob H
Guest

“Trump is arguably more conservative than about 75% of the candidates that have run in the Republican primaries over the last several cycles.”

That is utter, complete nonsense.
The fact that you believe it is a tribute to humanity’s infinite capacity for self-deception.

S1AL
Guest

No, you simply aren’t paying attention to the politics of candidates. The very notion that the Republican party is conservative is a farce, and has been for most of this century. Look at how they’ve voted. Look at what they do, not what they say. The only difference is that Trump is openly not-conservative, rather than faking it

60guilders
Guest

More conservative than, say, Pataki? I could believe that.
More conservative than McCain? That’s pretty debatable, but we could have a discussion about it.
More conservative than Romney? Yeah, we’re done here.

S1AL
Guest

Guilders – I’m not saying he’s more conservative than Romney. At that point you’re arguing over degrees of not-conservative. Which is my original point. The Republican party is a moderate party supported by conservatives for lack of options, and has been since… I dunno, probably Eisenhower. And mostly before Eisenhower. Heck, the fact that Ike is my second-best example for a conservative president in the 1900’s should be proof enough.

60guilders
Guest

Coolidge and Reagan don’t make the cut, apparently, and neither do H.W. or W? I get Roosevelt, Ford, Taft, and Nixon, being less conservative than Eisenhower, but at the very most he slides in third, and possibly fourth.

Netpackrat
Guest

Reagan and Bush 1 both signed gun bans, and GWB said he would sign an AWB renewal if congress passed it. People always seem to forget about all that.

S1AL
Guest
NCLB, two foreign wars, more land area added to the federal preserve than any president before him, massive expansion of the federal budget, no actions on immigration, etc. – And yet you want to call W a conservative? This is what I mean about actions rather than words. I rather like what I have heard about W as an individual, but as a politician he is very solidly a moderate. And he has also repeatedly, and publicly, referred to Bill Clinton as a “good friend”. You have to understand that the people who are born into the historical ruling families… Read more »
60guilders
Guest

Walker, if you’ll recall, broke the public employee unions in Wisconsin and has attracted the ire of Democrats across the land; Jindal pushed school choice, and hard; I could go on, but you get my point.

airboy
Guest
Larry – you can vote for whomever you wish. Based on reading monsterhunternation for 2 years, you are an informed voter. I did not think either Obama or McCain were qualified to be President in 2008 and voted Libertarian for President for the first time. Right now, I’m leaning strongly in that direction again. Republican primary voters for candidates other than Trump in the primary cannot be blamed for this debacle. Can’t blame me for Trump winning Alabama. I did not vote for him. Thanks for putting MHI in Alabama. Sorry you were treated rudely by some as a Mormon… Read more »
jic
Guest

“I did not think either Obama or McCain were qualified to be President in 2008 and voted Libertarian for President for the first time.”

I agree with you that neither candidate would have made a good president, but McCain would undoubtedly have been a better president than Obama. Hell, if this was 2008 or 2012 and Trump was running against Obama, then even he would have been a better choice (although virtually anybody would have been, so that’s not saying much).

Professor Headbutt
Guest

“You also may be losing some income by ranting about Trump. Or maybe not. Who knows? Some people say any publicity is good publicity – but I doubt if they are right.”

It worked on me. I only found out about MHI because of the political uproar, and thought to myself “anyone who infuriates this many leftists must be doing *something* right.”

Tirno
Guest
I gotta say, at this point, it is very liberating to know that I’m in a state that will go for Hillary even if she is wearing a orange jumpsuit a month from the general election. Washington is a all-or-nothing state in the general for the Electoral College, and there are enough full-on communists in King and Pierce counties to elect Joseph Stalin with every other county going for Ayn Rand. Seattle people wonder why I have a strict policy of not entering Seattle without a .45 and a couple spare magazines, wishing I had an orbiting AC-130. I wonder… Read more »
George Kirby
Guest
Your Hillary Jump Suit BS (1) is going the way of the explosive Michelle Obama video and the Barack real estate deal BS. It’s going nowhere. It is just the irrational nuttery of right wing radio conspiracy. Your third party hope (3) actually scares me. It could work. William Kristol seems to be working to draft Romney in a third party attempt. I think Romney is a horrible choice for President but he doesn’t come off as a kook. I would have to look harder at a map to see if the electoral math works. Still, I am glad Romney… Read more »
60guilders
Guest

Translation: Blah blah, I don’t care about wrongdoing if it’s my guy doing it.

George Kirby
Guest

No… I am have just seen this picture before. But you are welcome to your conspiracy theories. Everyone has to believe in something. I will come back after the election and make fun of you just like I called up the local conservative talk shows and made fun of them after the Romney Landslide didn’t happen. See you in November.

I will that is, unless something changes. I don’t really think this 3rd party stuff is going anywhere either so I don’t think it will.

60guilders
Guest

Now, you see, unlike him I don’t think Clinton’s going to be indicted, although she should be. Because I understand that while I believe in laws rather than men, it is people like you who run the government.
I will, however, roundly mock you when you get everything you want and it turns to ashes in your mouth.

George Kirby
Guest

Probably why Rafael Cruz isn’t being investigated. Said the Donald…

“You know, his father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald’s being — you know, shot,” Trump told “Fox and Friends” Tuesday. “I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous. What is this?”

“Right prior to his being shot and nobody even brings it up. I mean, they don’t even talk about that. That was reported and nobody talks about it.”

“I mean what was he doing with – what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death, I mean, before the shooting? It’s horrible…”

60guilders
Guest

Partisan hackery at its finest–equating the rantings of a man who knows nothing with well-documented evidence of wrong-doing.
There’s more hackery coming from you than there is at a cyberpunk convention.

BobtheRegisterredFool
Guest
BobtheRegisterredFool
Trump is citing evidence he (most likely) had placed in the National Enquirer. His argument is pretty much self-impeaching. The only way Cruz Sr. would’ve been involved with Oswald in shooting Kennedy would be if Cruz Sr. were an undercover operative from Cuban intelligence. Any plot wider than Oswald would’ve involved the Soviets. Cruz Sr., going by Cruz, isn’t credible as a secret communist. If you believe that, than you believe that Trump’s grandfather helped shoot Teddy R., and his great grandfather helped Booth plan to assassinate Lincoln. I might as well ask why George Kirby isn’t being investigated for… Read more »
George Kirby
Guest

Not me spouting foolishness about Hillary in a orange jump suit or Cruz paling around with Oswald. Really – most of the tinfoil hat stuff comes from your side.

60guilders
Guest

George Kirby: A man who thinks Donald Trump is on my side, and has managed to forget the 9/11 Truthers, Dennis Kucinich, AND the “Muslim Internment Camps.”

Feather Blade
Guest

“I wonder what the hell they’re smoking”

Seattle’s Best Marijuana, probably.

No doubt they started well before it was actually legal.

cthoms
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He nominates a fantastic VP and then has a stroke before November.

While that would undoubtedly be optimal (the stroke being terminal of course), how about a great VP pick with a pledge to not seek re-election in 2020? Yes, yes, “Pledge? What the hell does a pledge from this guy actually mean?” Not much. So I’ll ask you to follow me into alter-land, a place where there exists some mechanism that would really prevent Trump-2020. Would you be willing to pull the trigger (heh) vote for Trump in this case?

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[…] This, of course, is not shocking – libertarians seem to nurse a particular level of vitriol for Trump –  though I am well and truly disappointed. I can get not voting for Trump. Certain people I definitely respect for not doing so. […]

Rob H
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So after getting slapped around on here for his silly lies, Malcolm retreated to the safety of his own blog. Amusing.

Crashdown
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I hope your mountain is ready for your occupation by November. Someone deserves a chance to make it.

Lester Carthan
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Anyone else looking at Clinton, Sanders, and Trump and wondering how that happened? It not like there was a Coup d’état or anything. No matter where we go from there the electorate chose this. Being half black I’m not down for everything the founding fathers did when creating a new government but I see now why we are a Republic rather than a Democracy people are stupid.

AnonRS
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I agree with you whole hearty, Larry. I gave up voting for the lesser of two evils years ago. Because that is how serious I take voting–If not , then it’s a just game where everyone shrugs and winks knowingly at each other, acknowledging it really doesn’t matter, having as much effect as Pilate washing his hands and then walking away and letting the mob have it’s way. Voting is consent to have someone in power make decisions over your life. It is akin to a loyalty oath. It is an act of trust, and I don’t trust Trump. But… Read more »
PCBushi
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Well said, Larry. I came over here from ScifiWright, where JC was arguing with one individual who made a lot of the same points as you. They referring to JC and you holding differing opinions, so I came to have a look. I like JCW a lot, so sad to see he’s fallen in line with Trump, but oh well.

Anyway, it’s encouraging to see there are some other conservatives sticking to their guns. There’s going to be a lot of continuing pressure on us.

Rob H
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Unfortunately, when JC Wright has decided that he Knows The Truth about something, evidence and reason go out the window. His vaunted “logic” then becomes nothing more than a sophist’s tool to promote his pre-decided view.

60guilders
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Disagree; he will refuse to have his premises changed. He’s generally thoroughly logical, it’s just that his premises do not comport with reality.

Mark D
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At the risk of getting a Whaaaa: I have a hard time believing Trump will get ANYTHING he wants thru Congress, since both the Republicans and Democrats hate him. Hillary, on the other hand, will get everything she asks for, with support of all the Democrats and half the Republicans. If Trump tries to get things thru via Executive Order he’ll be impeached, unlike the first black President or the (presumptive) first woman President. Politicians being prevented from accomplishing their goals is a good thing. Perhaps a thin strand to hang a vote on, and I’m tempted to stay home,… Read more »
Old Cannonballs
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If Trump couldn’t get the government to do anything, that would be a good thing. But I don’t think it will happen.

John Brown
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Hilarious post, Larry.

Glenflthie
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Whatever, Larry.

I was gonna try and do it here but I will spare your fan boys and guilt -trip ya at my blog. I think you’re selling us out and making a mistake.

https://filthiestbox.blogspot.ca/2016/05/in-which-i-take-brad-and-larry-to.html

YMMV

SlimTim
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You’re assuming it will be Trump vs Clinton. That does seem likely, but Sanders is not completely out yet. If it ends up being Trump vs Sanders I definitely choose Trump. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of… Read more »
Zsuzsa
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Sanders doesn’t have a chance. He never did. He isn’t doing too badly in the primaries, but the Dems have their “superdelegate” system to make sure that no one can get the nomination without the support of the party establishment. What killed Hillary the last time wasn’t so much primary losses as it was the superdelegates jumping ship. That doesn’t show any signs of happening this time.

SlimTim
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You are likely correct, but it is too early to be certain. If Clinton proves to be too politically toxic (due to the e-mails, etc) she could loose the support of the superdelegates.

Doug Northcote
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One thing that comes to mind is that, this years election cycle will be really entertaining. Kind of like watching a bonfire of the vanities maybe. But made from people. The political adds and screaming matches that may result will certainly be… different.

Feels more like “Interesting times” as in the curse.

Dirk
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25% of federal employees quit? That sounds like a feature, not a bug!

Rob H
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No one’s going to quite. Liberals lie.

Eric
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Any suggestions for a 3rd party? Some of us longtime Democrat voter types are equally disgusted with the “choice” we look like having in November and cannot stomach either Trump or Clinton. Preferences: believing the 2nd Amendment is kind of important, that light taxes on a thriving economy is more effective than high (or highly targeted) taxes on a stagnant one, and that while most social and medical decisions by individuals are none of the government’s business in either direction, too little government presence can lead to as many problems as too much.

crumjd
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You’d probably like the Libertarian Gary Johnson (they don’t have an official nominee yet, but he’s the front-runner). He’s irritatingly lefty from a social standpoint, limited government from a fiscal and economic standpoint, seems to respect the constitution, and will probably get my grudging stamp of approval come November.

Eric
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Thank you. Took a look. We have differences, but I could live with that guy.

2aguy
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bridge on the river Kwai conservatives…..put the Republican Party over stopping Hilary much like Alec Guinness put his pow camp prisoners over defeating the Japanese…watch the last 5 minutes of that movie again….when Alec Guinness realizes what he has done in helping Hilary…errrr…the Japanese commander, build the bridge.

Jacksonian Libertarian
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Jacksonian Libertarian
I’ve had to hold my nose since Reagan, and I really despised McCain and Romney. I don’t understand all the “over the top” criticism of Trump, he’s been in the spotlight for decades, and if he really was a monster, how come his kids are so great? I wanted Cruz, I even sent him money, but he couldn’t close the deal, and his Constitutionalist Principles sadly got tossed aside at the end. I’m curious to see if I’ll get a wall, and Muslims get kept out. So I’ll be voting for Trump hoping his choices of subordinates continues to impress… Read more »
60guilders
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What about Trump’s choices of subordinates has impressed you so far?

Etaoin Shrdlu
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> Fuck those guys. They’ve proven over the last few months they’re too stupid to live anyway. Larry, vote for whomever you want. But kindly don’t insult the intelligence of 40% of the Republican base. > The best thing that ever happened for Hillary was you morons picking the one dude out of 15 she was the most likely to beat. Again with the “morons”? Insulting the base is a great way for you to show just why the Republican establishment’s candidates lost. “Vote for us … again … we’ll ignore you … again.” > You low information dipshits elected… Read more »
L Kandel
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Thank you for posting and articulating what I have been having an issue with Trump about. Like yall I just can’t vote for Trump and being a disabled Gulf War Vet I utterly despise all of the Clintons. Have you taken a look at Austin Petersen? He is a Libertarian Candidate who is very much a Constitutionalist and conservative on many issues. http://austinpetersen2016.com/
Would this be a viable option or do you have any better recommendations?

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