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Arthur Chu sucks at everything but Jeopardy

Many regulars may remember Social Justice Warrior and Salon author Arthur Chu as the dipshit who declared Brad Torgersen’s 20 year interracial marriage and his biracial children as “shields” to hide Brad’s racism. He is one of the morons who blamed the Sad Puppies’ success on GamerGate.

Well, after a day of futile harassment, his team of idiots couldn’t even call in a bomb threat correctly.

Here is a detailed report: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/03/dc-gamergate-meetup-disrupted-by-feminist-bomb-threat/

And here is Nero’s version, which is hilarious, because when SJWs try to destroy something it turns into a giant party.  http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/04/how-gamergate-hater-and-social-justice-clown-arthur-chu-got-me-laid/

 

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Keith Glass
Guest

I’m not sure these idiots know any better than to keep pushing. And sooner or later, someone is going to get injured or even killed, just so some people can remain Big Frogs in a continually-shrinking pond.. .

T.L. Knighton
Guest

Arthur Chu is proof that even an idiot can with Jeopardy.

Let him push on with his pathetic little attempts at disrupting those who dare to oppose him. Meanwhile, I’ll keep putting out books (new one out today after all), reading books written by people I like reading, and seeing movies I like.

We win because we simply refuse to lose, and that drives people like Chu nuts. It’s kind of awesome.

Shadowdancer
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Merely existing seems to make them lose their minds and do incredibly stupid shit like this.

The best part about this is it takes so little effort on our part!

Book
Guest

This is exactly right.

The mere fact that we’re not willing to sit back and take crap any more is, in my opinion, our biggest asset.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Oh yeah. The real reason they hate Larry, Sarah and Brad so much is that they don’t sit back and take it: they fight back. Hard.

Lhasadog
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It’s that we are not willing to accept that the enlightened elite such as Arthur know better than us. It drives them crazy that we will not “listen and believe” and follow their obviously benevolent guidance, no matter how much they attempt to force us to do so. After all Arthur is clearly so much smarter than us. He won on jeopardy.

James May
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Demography=ideology to supremacist bigots and the bigots always claim they are benign and for social justice.

In that world what Chu called a hate group is in reality men, whites and heterosexuals tired of racial incitement and attacks about imaginary patriarchies.

J. C. Salomon
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It gets better: What Chu called a hate group is actually (as best I can tell) quite diverse in race, sex, sexual orientation, even politics—all of them “tired of racial incitement and attacks about imaginary patriarchies.”

DaveP.
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To the Left, the definition of a “hate group” is “Non-Leftist” . Diversity, color, nothing really matters if a group’s views don’t pass the ideological smell test. Look at the things the SPLC has been labeling ‘Hate Groups’ tor the past ten years: everything from Pam Gellar to the Tea Party to the Juggalos.

James May
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I don’t agree Dave. It shouldn’t be lost on anyone that Chu refers to himself as a “feminist anti-racist,” or how anti-white racists have recently used that to mask their own hateful rhetoric about whites and how misandrist weirdo women have done the same for men. This SJW movement defines right and wrong as race and sex. Being a woman, gay or non-white in and of themselves constitute an anti-oppression movement. Being a straight white male is the equivalent of an oppressive ideology. Events and actions, actual laws, systems and institutions have nothing to do with this. That’s all fabricated… Read more »
DaveP.
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James, I think I’ll respectfully disagree with you there. From all I’ve seen, to the Left minority status is a political construct and not an objective one. If you’re Thomas Sowell or Clarence Thomas or Mia Love you’re not “really” black; you may be dark of hue, but you don’t count because it’s your politics that make the difference. Similarly, Bruce Carroll over at GayPatriot regularly gets accusations that he’s not the ‘right’ kind of gay (and occasionally that he is in fact not really gay) because he votes Republican. Tammy Bruce can tell similar stories. All of the above… Read more »
James May
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Well, if Sowell, Love and Thomas aren’t really black then what does that tell you? That is not liberalism but a specifically racialist doctrine devoid of such things as Right or Left. Skin and sex speaks. Did anyone care Whedon was liberal when he strayed off the identity plantation? Was the Sunil Patel who won’t review white men at Lightspeed attacked for illiberalism when he Storified Sarah Pinsker’s words without femme permission and slapped about on Twitter by Pinsker and Fran Wilde? How is Storifying a woman’s words illiberal? Is Lightspeed up for a Locus Award because of liberalism or… Read more »
Nighthawk
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James,
Are you saying that these SJW are sort of incubating within broader liberalism? I’m just trying to understand.

I listen to Herman Cain a lot on the radio, and there is a definite amount of callers who jump him for getting off the “plantation”. He has even been pointing out recent events I believe we would refer to as SJW.

Still trying to understand, are you saying that these are actually two seperate battles, one being strictly SJW and another being identity politics?

James May
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Yes, I am saying they are incubating. Intersectionalism ironically intersects at many places with liberalism, but at the end of the day many liberals are white, straight, and male and will be treated as such, but even the women. Lesbian-centric racialized feminism really has nothing to do with liberalism per se, no more than the KKK has anything to do with conservatism. Both may be anti-immigration but for different reasons. Intersectionalism and liberalism may both be pro-immigration for different reasons. There’s a reason WisCon has a racial safe space and it’s not cuz there’s conservatives around but because of their… Read more »
James May
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Which one of these below is not an ideology? See what I mean about simple comparisons, the SJW addiction to identity, confusing identity and principle, and turning demographies into ideologies? It’s all wrapped up in a ball right there. “Arthur Chu retweeted Ijeoma Oluo @IjeomaOluo · May 3 It’s amazing how the first people to shout ‘NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE’ & ‘NOT ALL MEN’ are also first to shout YES ALL MUSLIMS!'” * Here’s Arthur retweeting Anita Sarkeesian’s guru. It’s the same old shit: throw rocks at squirrels, squirrels get angry, angry squirrels confirmed. Gee, group defamation creates anti-defamation? Who… Read more »
Nighthawk
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He reads like a professional troll.

David MacKinnon
Guest

“Darth Chu”….
Bwahahahaha!

If only I knew an artist type who could run with THAT image. (swings way back with a Tetsubo sized hint stick)

Shadowdancer
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…I thought about it but that would be giving him a bit too much credit.

It’s more like ‘he wish.’

Patrick Chester
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Maybe if he wore a biiiiiig helmet?

“I can’t breathe in this thing!!!”

Shatter
Guest

More like Dork Chu.

DaveP.
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Well, if we have Wendell the Manatee I can’t see why THEY can’t have Arthur the Walrus…Koo Koo ka-Chu!

Brian Niemeier
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Congratulations on the book release!

hygate
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I fail to see any difference between the current attempt to police gamers and the gaming industry and the attempt to police rock music lyrics in the 80s.

Both efforts were led by moral busybodies who had no doubt about their moral superiority and were eager to use the power of the state to impose their views on others.

On the other hand, without the Parents Music Resource Center we would never have had “Joe’s Garage.”

humphrey
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It’s TOTAL CRIMINALIZATION writ large

murph
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Not to mention ‘Jazz From Hell’, an albumn without vocals reportedly having the RIAA Parental Advisory sticker

Stephen St. Onge
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        Shall we call this the Chu variant of Godwin’s Law?  “Whoever tries to win an argument by calling in phony bomb threats loses everything forever.”

James May
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Chu is the John Scalzi of gaming. Like Scalzi Chu has decided to adopt by proxy the insane theories of radical gender feminism that began in America around 1970. Hearing them both spout radical feminist slogans is like the “E Plebneesta” episode of Star Trek where the Yangs had forgotten the meaning of the words to America’s founding documents. They’re just parrots talking about “cracka ass cracka.”

Jared Anjewierden
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It’s the horseshoe theory of politics – go enough to the right or left and you start becoming authoritarian and it bends back around till the authoritarian left and the authoritarian right start getting quite hard to distinguish from one another.

(And even better, the authoritarian left hates it when you compare their moral panics to the moral panics of the right)

Kristophr
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Someone should tell Chu that Orwell’s 1984 ( and it’s description of an Anti-Sex League ) is not a government operations manual.

Doug Loss
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By US definitions of “left” and “right,” there is no authoritarian right. The US extreme right is radical libertarianism shading into true anarchy; only the European definition of “right,” which I understand includes fascism, could include authoritarianism as an extreme form. By US definitions, pretty much all of European political philosophies are on the left.

Sarah Hoyt
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As someone who grew up there, yep. All European theories of government are statist to a larger or smaller degree. They don’t understand us, and we don’t understand them. The right/left divide is along the lines of patriotism/internationalism and along the lines of religion/denial thereof. (Though there are right wing atheists in Europe, but they view religion as part of the culture they subscribe to, if that makes sense.) Yep, the two philosophies can go hardcore totalitarian IN EUROPE. I’m getting tired of the left here, largely europhiles, calling me a fascist. I’ll take that from my colleagues on the… Read more »
Doug Loss
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I like it! Benign Neglectism!

Joe in PNG
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Bingo! The funny thing is that most of the big name tyrannical systems of the 20th century was pretty much that country’s previous political culture turned up to 11.

Josh
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I think it is largely correct the left looks at it from a Euro-centric point of view. However I think that it doesn’t help that there are Christian progressives in the Republican party. To a leftist the GOP is automatically considered “right of center”. Therefore in a leftists mind state imposed religion is a “right of center” idea. I am saying this as a Christian who doesn’t believe in abortion or gay “marriage” but I support the government getting out of marriage and I don’t support the “war on drugs” or similar social issues laws.

Greg
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There are Christian Progressives on the Left. They routinely get called out by BOTH sides only on different issues. The more extreme Left hates them for their social conservatism (traditional family, no drugs, etc) and the TEAOP hates them because they maintain the defense of worker dignity and rights for the underclass.

Greg
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@correia45: no more or less so than “the government is too big, too expensive, and too intrusive into peoples’ lives”

that’s not a policy either. And the policies it has led to (unending tax cuts for the elites that have racked up HUGE debts for the nation while assistance to society’s least fortunate has been repeatedly meat-axed) have been ruinous. Not to mention the massive incentives to cut hours, downsize/offshore, cut employee benefits, etc.

Doug Loss
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Greg, there has been NO reduction in the size, expense, or intrusiveness of government. These things have not been tried. Pretending otherwise just makes you look silly.

josh
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As others have said. “Tax cuts for the wealthy” is always the refrain against cutting government. How about we give everyone tax cuts and also take a meat ax to the whole budget. We could cut the ATF, DEA, Department of Education, and the Department of Energy and no one would really notice. If we really tried there are quite a number of other bureaus that could be eliminated as well. Also, as others have said, reduction in the size and scope of government has never really been tried but everyone wants to say it won’t work because poor people… Read more »
The Phantom
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I strongly agree with Sarah. The whole Left/Right divide in Europe (and Canada!) is bollocks. In Europe you have two flavors of Big Government, the “communist” and the “fascist”, which are identical in function. Whenever one of these governments gets into power, a million people die. Started with Turkey and the Armenian genocide, proceeded through WWI and WWII, took a side trip to China and SE Asia, now we’ve got it here. There is no difference between fascism and communism in operation, they are identical. The true political divide is between LESS government and MORE government. Little Arthur is on… Read more »
Greg (other one)
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The Armenian genocide was what happened when Turkey tried to modernize by imitating Europe.

What do you need to do to go from a multi-ethnic empire to an ethnically homogeneous nation state, on the European model? You have to kill fuck loads of people, and the genocide was far from all Armenians.

Many of the world’s worth pathologies are a result of non-Europeans imitating Europe, and not in a good way.

60guilders
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Thank you! Someone else who endorses the horseshoe theory!

Stephen St. Onge
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        “Left” and “Right” are European terms.  The “Right” consists of those entitled to rule by traditional criteria, mainly aristocratic birth, and who wish to use the power of the government to freeze things as they are.  The “Left” consists of those banned from ruling by traditional criteria, who long to overthrow the existing social order and seize power.

        The questions of how much power the government should have, and what things it should have power over, are just not addressed by the “Left/Right” divide.

Nighthawk
Guest

I had heard the left and right terms came from in the Bible somewhere about seperating sheeps and goats on the right and left.

Doug Loss
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No, the terms came from the seating arrangements in the various legislative bodies of France, specifically in the French Legislative Assembly of 1791, when the moderate royalist Feuillants sat on the right side of the chamber, while the radical Montagnards sat on the left.

hygate
Guest

We should start referring to Chu and his fellow SJWs as “Tipper.”

Miisha Moon
Guest

Tipper Chu! Love it.

James May
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Dr. Frederic Wertham (’50s Comics Code), Tipper Gore and insane gender feminist Andrea Dworkin have all testified in front of congressional committees about sexual vulgarity in media with the same idea in mind that it negatively impacts American culture. Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu and the SFWA Red Sonja non grata are right behind them.

Feminists, Gore and Wertham. What more proof do you need about what you’re dealing with when it comes to SJWs?

Kristophr
Guest

1984’s Anti-Sex League.

Wolfmanjim
Guest

Wertham actually did some good in his life, especially with his work in the Brown v. Board related doll tests. And he was a real head shrinker who did work with troubled youths. The only think Dworkin, Tipper and Chu run are their damned mouths.

Nighthawk
Guest

Please don’t drag Red Sonja into this! I don’t think most S&S fans would fall into the SJW category.

My most remembered moment from the 1980’s in regards to this topic: Judas Priest in court

James May
Guest

Talk to the femnuts at the SFWA. They’re the ones who went apeshit at a painting of Red Sonja.

Nighthawk
Guest

I’m afraid to ask what happened there. I can’t imagine an SJW reading through one page of a sword and sorcery without their heads exploding 🙂

Randy P.
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Peggy Noonan was the one responsible for destroying Saturday Morning cartoons, too. Can’t have the kids having fun, after all.

Oh yeah, she was a progressive, too. Surprise, surprise.

Randy P.
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Sorry, I mean Peggy Charren.

Pugmak
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I prefer “Destructionists” for such as what’s falsely called “Social Justice Warriors” these days.

They are all and only about social/cultural destructionism. Nothing more. Nothing less.

The slogans they use as fig leaves are only meant to keep the stupid on their side. There’s nothing true in any of their claims or stated aims.

They’re all about destroying everything around them.

Steve Moss
Guest

It takes a sick, disturbed person to think it’s alright to call in a bomb threat. I hope they catch him or her before someone is hurt.

Nick Gardner
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Washington D.C.
Think Homeland Security. Chu is having a bad day. The twittard who sent the threat is going to have a REALLY bad day.

William Underhill
Guest

While I would like to think Mr. Chu has been/will be hoist by his own petard, some remnant of integrity requires me to ask if there’s evidence – as in court-admissible evidence – that would implicate him as the bomb threat caller?

Nighthawk
Guest

I’m still trying to unravel what #gamergate is. But didn’t Chu or one of his close people act as if they were receiving threats like this and had to run away, or something along those lines?

And yet, here they are perpetrating the same thing they claim to have suffered. Maybe this is a large scale projection?

Calbeck
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I will actually defend Chu’s “Jeopardy” behavior, which actually got him hated by a lot of fans of the show… because he “gamed the system”. Chu is capable of extremely focused examination. He was able, in effect, to crack how Jeopardy worked, then get on the show and exploit how it functioned to get a major leg up on his opponents. He played the game well. But he was also an asshole in how he played it. And he has never had a shred of remorse about that. This is the core of Chu’s character. If he believes he is… Read more »
Book
Guest

“So no, he’s not an idiot. He’s a deliberate liar, a propagandist, perhaps even a terrorist, and in his mind he is utterly justified because to admit error would break his sense of self.”

Yes. Spot on. I don’t think it was he that made the threats, he DID deliberately try to ruin the fun of a group of people for no other reason than he didn’t like them. Sounds awfully familiar… and probably why he hates the Sad Puppies campaign so much. Too many people having the sort of fun that he doesn’t approve of.

Kristophr
Guest

He’s a smart social retard.

When one of them gloms onto an ideology, they treat it like an operator’s manual, and the notion of using social skills to actually deal with people is never given a single thought.

And yea, we have some of those on the right, but we do try to keep them away from the controls.

Greg
Guest

You’ve failed then. Witness the TEA Party.

Greg
Guest

@ Correia45: and who reflexively apply that axiom to any and ALL questions of governance, just like what was being said by Kristophr above.

Doug Loss
Guest

Greg, Greg, Greg… You really know nothing about the Tea Party movement beyond the leftist talking points, do you?

The Phantom
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Hi Greggy! Having fun in Scalzi’s echo chamber?

So the Tea Party. You mean the hundreds of thousands of Americans who show up at events all over the USA, and after they leave there’s not a scrap of litter in the entire venue? Those social retards?

Greg
Guest
@Doug: I’ve watched their videos, read their books, listened to their radio programs and investigated their websites AND those opposed to them. I am well versed in their views and 95% of them are antithetical to managing a modern society and can be summed up in the following: if it’s government, shrink it. If it’s a tax, cut it. Rinse. Repeat. Then blame Democrats and the underclass when the economy almost collapses, the rivers get polluted, and the poor go hungry and homeless. @Phantom: Hardly. I wouldn’t be posting here if I did, now would I? And cleaning up after… Read more »
Doug Loss
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Greg, I have been to Tea Party rallies, and I consider myself part of the movement. I have to tell you, you really don’t know anything about the Tea Party movement. First, it isn’t anything you can learn about by trying to follow the many various organizations that grew up to try to influence the movement. It’s too inchoate for that . I very strongly suspect that your view of the Tea Party movement is an example of confirmation bias, that you see it as what you suspected it to be rather than what it is.

Ad Astra
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Greg, on May 5, 2015 at 1:44 pm said:
You’ve failed then. Witness the TEA Party.

So the Tea Party controls the GOP? Well I’m sure that’s news to both.

Ad Astra
Guest
Greg, on May 5, 2015 at 9:39 pm said: “I am well versed in their views and 95% of them are antithetical to managing a modern society” Only if you believe that the only model of modern society that can only function is one of the enlightened few running things because the masses are to foolish to be trusted with the independence to decide who they wish to associate with, spend their own money etc. Greg, on May 5, 2015 at 9:39 pm said: “And cleaning up after themselves (and I don’t for one minute believe those stories about how… Read more »
James May
Guest

Chu is like all SJWs in that they resemble low-level idiot savants. They can write computer code but ask them anything the least abstract in a philosophical sense and they fall apart. They are incapable of accurately constructing a metaphor or analogy or understanding principle. Talk to them about equal protection and they come back with blank stares and talk about “privilege” and fee-fees.

The Phantom
Guest

James, you’re describing Asperger’s Syndrome here.

Chu can’t have Asperger’s, he’s Chinese. Unless one of his recent ancestors was Northern European, he hasn’t got the genetics for it.

He’s some other form of social cripple, possibly a self inflicted wound from too much Marxism at university. If he’s lucky he’ll grow out of it before somebody takes exception to his behavior, and by “someone” I’m thinking some random middle management clone in the DHS looking for a career boost.

James May
Guest

I’m not talking about genetics. If I didn’t use principles I’d be an SJW. It’s a human failing and the whole reason philosophy is taught. You have to have something you use to reach outside of yourself so you look at the world more fairly. A lot of it is built into people’s personalities but I think we all need help at times.

Tully
Guest

[OK, side rant but still …]

TP, if you know the cause of Asperger’s please report at once to Johns Hopkins, they’ll help you collect that Nobel Prize in medicine. Because decades of researchers have failed to narrow it down to a single cause or even a clear common pathology, nor been able to find any clear differnetiation between Asperger’s and higher-functioning autism.

[End of side rant.]

wayne earl
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The cause of most cases of aspergers I’ve seen are self justification of poor parenting practices and an absolute unwillingness to respect others enough to learn and maintain a social skill. Most cases I’ve seen are cured by violence or the threat thereof. Not to be confused by Aspergers Syndrome, a crippling condition existing along a continuum of behavior that is largely overshadowed by those smelling of cheese in paragraph one. These men and women are indeed rare, because actually having a disorder often means that one does not wish to use it as an excuse for poor behavior, sympathy,… Read more »
The Phantom
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From my extensive but not exhaustive reading about Asperger’s Syndrome, its “on the autism spectrum” which means some guys kinda think its like autism but nobody knows for sure. However one thing is very clear, its a Northern European thing. Autism/Aspergers is fairly common in European/Caucasian bloodlines, and -virtually never happens- to anyone else. Furthermore there are no common head/brain injuries that cause Asperger’s/autism-like symptoms, so the brain structure that creates it is (I speculate) more diffuse and distributed, and doesn’t happen because of one pathway or one spot in the brain. Making it pretty hard to figure out. Therefore,… Read more »
David MacKinnon
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@calbeck
I think you just described, in detail, a Clinton tax return.

rcade
Guest

It’s fair to criticize Arthur Chu for running a public campaign to persuade the bar not to host that event. He doesn’t live in D.C. and has no reason to care about that bar’s customers.

But you’re going a lot further than that by accusing him of being involved in making a bomb threat — a serious crime. Unless you have proof, your comment about how his “team of idiots” made the threat is libelous.

Nick Gardner
Guest

“Incitement”

How’s that sound?

rcade
Guest

I don’t see any incitement, but if you have a link where Chu encourages people to commit a crime, by all means provide it.

Book
Guest
Actually, what he said was that Chu’s team of idiots could not make a proper bomb threat. I don’t think anyone’s going to court over Larry’s opinion of their bomb threat making skills. “Your honor, he said we couldn’t make a proper bomb threat! We can TO make proper bomb threats! Tell him to take it back!” FWIW, I don’t think Chu made the threat himself. His threats were along similar lines to “that’s a nice bar you have there. Be a shame if someone were to call it sexist.” There were people on twitter who are normally his sympathizers,… Read more »
James May
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It’s non-stop hate speech and for years now. That is incitement. Chu talked about that Gamergate meet-up as if it were the KKK. In fact SJWs commonly talk about all straight white men as if they were the KKK just for existing on this Earth. “Feminist Frequency (Anita Sarkeesian) retweeted Veerender Jubbal @Veeren_Jubbal · Nov 1 Not all white people are racist; but every white person does benefit from racism. Please, listen to people of colour, and their experiences.” “Arthur Chu @arthur_affect · 10h 10 hours ago ‘This is a truly diverse community! We have white ‘left-libertarian’ dudebros, white regular… Read more »
Joe in PNG
Guest

This from the people who said that Sarah Palin’s use of crosshairs on a map led to the shooting of Gabby Giffords.

Patrick Chester
Guest

Didn’t some lefty blog (Daily Kos?) use bullseyes on a map around that time too?

(Presumably to show where to focus on election efforts. I hope.)

Doug Loss
Guest

And what’s more the “crosshairs” on the map by Sarah Palin were actually surveyor’s symbols, which had exactly nothing to do with weaponry.

Nighthawk
Guest

I remember that! Had to be one of the dumbest complaints against Palin.

James Schardt
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If you reread what he said, you’ll notice he said Chu probably incited the bomb threat not that he was involved in it. The screen shots in the two articles provides plenty of proof of this.

Kristophr
Guest

Senator Robert Byrd never lynched anyone, he was just a Grand Kleagle in the Klu Klux Klan.

James May
Guest

Yeah, suddenly you have to actually phone in a bomb threat while me merely existing is “rape culture.” What morons.

Cat
Guest

Wait, you guys have jumped from “Arthur Chu sent an e-mail to a place hosting a gamergate meetup pointing out what gamergate is” to “Arthur Chu called in a bomb threat”?

That’s a hell of a jump to reach that conclusion.

Is there any actual evidence that Chu is behind this bomb threat? Is he, like, the only person to oppose gamergate or something?

Leaps of assumption like this are why people don’t take you seriously when you talk about “secret cabals” controlling the Hugos.

Pete
Guest

No, there is no actual evidence that Arthur Chu called in the bomb threat. He did, however, send out an email to his supporters asking them to come up with other ways to keep the meeting from happening when the manager of Local 16 refused to listen to him.

Did he make the call? We don’t have any evidence that he did. Did he encourage this type of behavior? Yes.

Jake
Guest

When a public figure runs a public smear campaign targeting a disfavored group, complete with regular two minute hates, and then a bomb threat is called in targeting the disfavored group, a normal human being could reasonably draw the inference that the threat probably came from somebody inspired by the public figure. Even an abnormal human being following Less Wrong’s pet Bayesian decisionmaking process would come to the same conclusion.

A concern troll probably wouldn’t.

hygate
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Don’t recall anyone stated that “secret cabals” controlling the Hugos.

I do recall Harlan Ellison and GRR Martin stating that insiders wielded undue influence.

And switching positions from “Hugos are the fans award” to “Hugos are the truefans of Worldcon award.”

James May
Guest

One of the Hugo-nominated team of Skiffy and Fanty thinks this is important for the world to know:

“Cecily Kane retweeted La Di Da @lalo__stl · 20h 20 hours ago Also, men, white men, just grow the fuck up. Contrary to what everything in your life has told you so far, you’re not smarter than everyone”

Thanks. It’s all about neutron stars and far off worlds.

Sjonnar
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It is the duty of the courts to assume innocence until guilt is proven. And truly, no court could convict Chu on the basis of the facts currently in evidence.

But i’m not a court, i’m a private citizen. I have no duty to assume innocence; i’m free to assume the jackass that sent the tweet saying “it’s ending tonight” is the same jackass that called in the bomb threat that was supposed to “end it”.

Andrew
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Well, the link between GamerGate and SP3/RP3 is about as tenuous, but it seems OK for your side of the street to run with that narrative. Consider: Beale supports Gamer Gate. Beale slate gets nominees on board. No right thinking person would vote for Beale, ergo he had GG help. Chu posts email. Chu makes tweets asking people for help in stopping meeting. Meeting place gets bomb threats. One narrative is utterly believable by the AP side. The other demands concrete proof, depositions, and eye witnesses before acknowledging, that yes, it may be a possibility. Honestly Cat, the mental loops… Read more »
AspiringTruFan
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I’d like to drop in to remind people that there is usually a large group of people somewhere in the middle that think its ridiculous to say SP is an arm of GG AND that Chu incited a bomb threat.

So the people you are arguing with here about whether Chu is responsible for the bomb threat may be the same people that attempted to argue that SP!=RP!=GG. It is not necessarily paradoxical to believe both things.

*This post does little to reflect my personal beliefs or positions on either issue*

James May
Guest

SP and GG mostly exist for the same reasons: daffy feminist attacks. There is no contradiction with being aligned with one or the other. What’s your point?

Anyone against the insane people who went nuts over the bikini protein ad is in the same club as GG or SP, hardly an indictment.

rcade
Guest

Correia reached out to GamerGate on Twitter to publicize Sad Puppies 3. He doesn’t make any attempt to deny that his campaign is associated with GamerGate, and said recently on Twitter, “I think GamerGate is awesome.”

James May
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Gamergate is an anti-third wave gender feminist movement at this point. The ethics battle has been addressed and won. However the ditzy feminists are still there and they still never shut up from dawn til dusk about men and whites. Since this feminist ideology is an anti-Constitutional racist sexual supremacist cult, GG IS awesome. If you want to defend the abolition of gender on the idea men stole androgyny from noble gender equity cultures in pre-history then knock yourself out. If you don’t believe that’s the exact issue in play then you haven’t been listening to Wu, Sarkeesian and their… Read more »
Calbeck
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“Gamergate is an anti-third wave gender feminist movement at this point.” Um, no, we’re not. We have had some victories in the ethics war, but it’s far from over (and now we have the Society for Professional Journalists taking an interest). There’s been no Liberation of Paris yet, let alone a landing at Normandy. It’s more accurate to say that we have survived the blitzkrieg and have mounted several successful counterattacks. While it’s true that third-wave gender feminists have made #GamerGate about them and their issues in the eyes of the press, that has never been our focus except in… Read more »
James May
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Without this weird brand of feminism showing up out of nowhere 3 or 4 years ago there is no Gamergate and no Sad Puppies and it’s as simple as that. The only way to take them out is to specifically attack and delegitimize their silly assertions about men and whites. “Jonathan McIntosh ‏@radicalbytes May 3 The levels of toxic hegemonic masculinity on display in Age of Ultron was off the charts. That fact passes without comment in most reviews.” That’s Sarkeesian’s buddy. It’s the same weird obsession in SFF, comics, video and film, and they never shut up – not… Read more »
nathan
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Who cares? Gamergate pretty much went “What’s a Hugo?” until TNH went harping on Daddy Warpig. That got some attention, but even then, not much.

I swear, some days I really think people want the Dark Eye of Suaron to gaze upon them. If rallied, Gamergate involvement would exceed the total electorate of the Hugos, likely by an order of magnitude, yet people still insist on poking the boogeyman.

Daddy Warpig
Guest

Exactly. *I* took Sad Puppies to #GamerGate, during the last week before nominations closes. And I failed to stir notable interest.

I *wanted* to, but I didn’t. My efforts were a failure.

Until the N-H’s hysterical claims made some of #GamerGate go “We did what, now?”

THEY did it for me.

So thank those CHORF’s / SJW’s who went out of their way to annoy #GamerGate for me. They pushed my small efforts along.

Thanks, guys! : )

James May
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I think that part of that was that Gamergate won most of its victories. The goofy feminist drivel was being pushed through more profit-oriented venues where cause and effect was very obvious. Those media outlets were more vulnerable to pressure. You can’t really do that to Sarkeesian and Brianna Wu because they operate independently of that, but they themselves don’t have that big an impact. You have this Randi dork trying the same thing but she’s been reduced to begging for money. That cause and effect is far less obvious in SFF. Most of the worst bigots in SFF have… Read more »
Nighthawk
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So, if I like Sad Puppies, that automatically makes me a GG? Need some more tar for your giant brush?

James May
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You continually ignoring quotes amounting to public collusion to use diversity hires and the fiction that goes along with it is why we don’t take you seriously. I have yet to see one of you address those quotes or even acknowledge they exist. There’s a reason for that: you can’t fisk your own quotes. I have never mentioned anything remotely like a “secret cabal.” They operate as openly as a three-ring circus. See: last year’s Hugos and Nebulas and the rhetorical filth that went along with them. If you want to talk about secret cabals, what about the 100 yr.… Read more »
Vlad
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Oh, give me a damn break. Arthur Chu did a lot more than “pointing out what GamerGate is”, even in his warped, insane mind.

He led a campaign to get the meet-up in Local 16 shut down. He repeatedly Tweeted it to all his followers and asked me them to do their part in shutting it down, too.

He is very much complicit in this. I can’t take you seriously as anything other than a silly concern troll when you pretend otherwise.

nathan
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It’s Cat. Her repeated attempts to shame us into going away from the beginning of Sad Puppies 3 have failed, yet she’s back to give it another go, with the same odds of failure.

Vlad
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the heads-up.

A very devoted and persistent concern troll/SJW then? 🙂

James May
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I wouldn’t say so. People with no true principles or moral ethos simply can’t reason out things.

nathan
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Cat, we’re talking about a man who tried to buy votes last year to influence the outcome of the Hugos. Defending him doesn’t help people take you seriously whenever you try to shame us.

And, no, no one credible is saying Chu called in the threats. Although his petulant “I don’t go to bars who host GG” to a bar in a city he doesn’t even live in was outright childish and silly at best.

Doug Loss
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Actually, most people DO take the SP claims of the Hugos being controlled by an SJW mafia seriously. All they have to do is look at what’s happened and is happening to see the truth of that without a doubt.

James May
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Don’t worry, the Lesbian Papacy will still dole out favors to itself and faithful allies at the Nebulas.

The Phantom
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Cat said: “Wait, you guys have jumped from “Arthur Chu sent an e-mail to a place hosting a gamergate meetup pointing out what gamergate is” to “Arthur Chu called in a bomb threat”?” See, this is why I can’t be assed to talk to people at Scalzi’s bog anymore, they say shit like this all the time. In fact this type of thing is pretty much all they ever say. I’ve read the whole thread, and as of just now no one has even remotely said “Arthur Chu called in a bomb threat”. The most anyone has said is that… Read more »
James May
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How far do dingy feminists who never had to sign up for the draft have to jump to abuse words like “entitlement”?

Oh, look! The kazillionth year in a row with the pie-charting addicted feminist movement not having pie-charts of Vet’s Hospitals. I’m sure that’s just an accident and has nothing at all to do with radical feminists being bald-faced liars.

Zsuzsa
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Huh. I knew pretty much nothing about Arthur Chu before reading those articles, but having seen the screen caps of his facebook page, I’ve got to say that “Orwellian” is the perfect description for what he wrote there about himself: “manage my own thinking and purge myself of dangerous ‘unthinkable’ thoughts”; “the only way to be rational is to be irrational.” If I were to were to write those in jest about SJW thinking, I’d delete them, figuring I’d gone to far.

Someone needs to explain to Mr. Chu that Orwell wrote 1984 as a warning, not an instruction manual.

Greg
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As I said below, Chu is showing all the signs of a classic case of cult brainwashing.

Vlad
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The funny thing is that Chu brags about brainwashing himself! (“Mind killing”)

Kristophr
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He now loves Big Brother.

James May
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Not many people put the rat-cage on their own head. They don’t really need a dystopian society for that. Just their own stupidity.

Kristophr
Guest

That needs t be an internet meme:

He doesn’t need Room 101.

He’ll put the rat cage on his own head without any help.

Wolfmanjim
Guest

A light rinse would have sufficed.

Chu seems to be the classic 18 Int, 3 Wis.

Richard McEnroe
Guest

Nothing worse than a guy who thinks he’s bright thinking he’s discovered a Big New Idea…

Reziac
Guest

Sounds more like Chairman Mao to me.

J. C. Salomon
Guest

Yes, precisely: Chu’s “Dark Arts” are just Maoist self-criticism, for which he’s appropriated vocabulary from the LessWrong rationalist movement.

V
Guest

Just want to note that for LW uses that vocabulary in a negative way–as an example of what not to do.

James May
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I think part of the problem is this weird ideology of sex-hatred is unique in history. People don’t really know where to place it in a political spectrum. To me the simple answer to that is hatred doesn’t exist on a political plane. Organizing it into a sort of club politicizes it but doesn’t truly make it political. Pretending it does is exactly why it is so successful in hiding its intentions. That has always been true of hate speech, though even that is a relatively new phenomenon, since it requires mass media. Oddly enough, that is one of the… Read more »
Stephen St. Onge
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        The place to locate this stuff is on the Left.  The Left has always been one message: ‘The people in power are evilnastywickednaughtybadbadbad, and they need to be replaced by us!’  They want power.  Getting it is the entirety of Leftism’s goals.

James May
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One could make that case for anyone who feels underserved by society. While it’s true you can locate these people on the Left, they are not the Left. Leftism does not default to bizarre ideological lesbian fantasies about the moral supremacy of female androgyny. Leftism does not default to unflattering comparisons to psychosexually tricky straight white men. That is an obsessive cult full of mental health issues.

Joe in PNG
Guest

Never forget that de Beauvoir was rather cosy with the Vichy government back during WW2.

Fruitbat44
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The article could be taken as saying that Arthur Chu personally phoned in the bomb threat, and there AFAIK no concrete evidence to identify who exactly made the threat.

So keep an open mind at this point.

And FWIW I prefer the term SJW to mean Social Justice Wonk, to distinguish between those who genuinely fight against injustice, and those who feel that their “enlightened” position entitles them to ride roughshod over any POV which isn’t exactly like theirs.

Vlad
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The people who genuinely fight against injustice are widely reviled as horrific enemies by Social Justice Warriors.

Kristophr
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Remember, The Right Honorable Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a life long member of the Republican Party, which makes him a house slave and Uncle Tom to the SJWs.

They would through Oreo cookies at him if he tried to speak today.

Kristophr
Guest

“throw” … dammit.

Shadowdancer
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Curse you autocorrect!

Vlad
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Indeed. And Dr. King’s rejection and condemnation of Malcolm X’s racist movement would doubly make him an enemy of contemporary liberals. And his fervent, strongly expressed Christian beliefs triply an enemy.

Max
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He strongly opposed the Vietnam War. He wanted contraception to be funded by government, and supported Planned Parenthood. He wanted an economic bill of rights under which citizens would have a guaranteed job and guaranteed income. He thought it a moral abomination that the defense budget was larger than the budget for social services. He was, by all accounts, moving closer to Malcom’s position in the last three years of his life. He was, in short, to the left of today’s Democratic Party. And while it’s cute to see conservatives pretend that King was one of theirs (and to pretend… Read more »
Kristophr
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The Democratic Party is still the party of the Klu Klux Klan, Max.

That stain will never wash off, no matter how many blacks you can sucker into your zero-opportunity welfare voter plantation.

MLKJr was a life long Republican and that grates on you.

I enjoy your tears.

Doug Loss
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You should understand that “social justice” is pretty much a synonym for “injustice.” Those who genuinely fight against injustice are on the opposite side of the “social justice” movement.

Vlad
Guest

Very well said. Continuing on with the 1984 motif, it’s similar to the “Ministry of Love” being the exact opposite of its name.

Taarkoth
Guest

The only time the term ‘social justice’ doesn’t make me roll my eyes is when the Church uses it, as She means something rather different from the SJWs and spends quite a bit of ink properly defining exactly what She means by the term.

Greg
Guest

Has anyone considered that Chu comes off as a classic “cult victim” with his “mindkill”stuff?

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

In Chu’s own words, he “rigorously mind-kills” himself. Is that a fancy way of admitting he’s brain-dead?

Zsuzsa
Guest

Not yet, but it sounds like he’s doing his best to execute whatever poor neurons have managed to escape the purges thus far.

Kristophr
Guest

He didn’t require the services of Room 101 to love Big Brother. He did it to himself.

Vlad
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Heh, he is the perfect IngSoc citizen.

And a wonderful example of the insane suicide cult that is SWJs/liberals.

Vlad
Guest

Yes, it’s Chu admitting that he has to consciously purge the rational side of his brain from thinking “scary thoughts” antithetical to the SJW/liberal suicide cult.

Greg
Guest

I really do wish that people would stop lumping SJWs together with “liberals” as if we were all of one monolithic mindset. There ARE people who are Center Left/Left politically that are not rabid haters of straight white men.

Doug Loss
Guest

We understand that, Greg. But it’s similar to “moderate” muslims who refuse to disown Islamist violent jihadists; if you want to be seen as separate from the loonies, you have to publicly dissociate yourselves from them.

Greg
Guest

I try to all the time, even on the loonies’ own pages/blogs/websites, where I am routinely accused of being a Right-wing extremist Republican despite my equally vocal support of progressive economic issues.

I get the same treatment on Right-leaning fora as well, just reversed. I’m a “taker/leech/Communist” for advocating for appropriate regulation of business, progressive taxation, and aid to the less fortunate despite also being four-square in favor of traditional family values, respect for law, etc.

Doug Loss
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Saying those things to the loonies on their own website isn’t “publicly dissociating” yourself from them. To do that you have to disavow them when talking to the public, to neutral observers. Do you do that too?

Greg
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A correia45: No, I’m a Christian Progressive who is true to ALL of Christ’s teachings, not just the social ones or the economic ones.

@Doug: yes I do.

Achillea
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appropriate regulation of business, progressive taxation, and aid to the less fortunate Ah yes. ‘Appropriate.’ Another of the adjectives from the assuming-facts-not-in-evidence lexicon of the left. ‘Common sense’ and ‘reasonable’ are another couple of favorites, and almost invariably applied to propositions which are exactly the opposite. Likewise ‘progressive,’ intended to make whatever pig it’s slapped on appear positive and forward-looking. And as far as ‘aid to the less fortunate’ goes, you are aware that those on the right give far more to charity than those on the left, yes? So far, you’re 0 for 3 in the Moral Equivalence Olympics.
Kristophr
Guest

Greg: I recall a Commandment that forbids coveting your neighbor’s possessions, and a certain person named Jesus who advocated giving away your possessions.

I didn’t see anything about taking other people’s possessions at using government violence or the threat of government violence.

That’s a pretty violent version of “Christianity” you practice there … give us your shit for redistribution, or we’ll have government thugs shoot you and take it for us.

If this is what Christianity has descended into, unapologetic thievery, then I will remain a conservative atheist.

James May
Guest

I think most of us get that and understand it’s a radical feminist thing. The problem is they’re hijacking words from you and the vast majority of liberals continue to let them operate using liberalism as a base. Chuck ’em out. It’s a fringe cult, like the KKK. Just call ’em that.

Vlad
Guest

Greg, I use “liberal” in a very specific sense. Namely, a series of beliefs (on the sociopolitical front, identical to those of SJW, but on an economic/foreign affairs, also encapsulating a hatred of capitalism, free markets, and Western society while loving Islam) paired with a totalitarian “you’re either with us or against us” mindset.

I realize it can be used in other senses, just like with any other broad term.

If you disagree with SJWs and their ilk, you’re not the “liberals” I’m talking about.

Greg
Guest

I understand that Vlad, but others might not. It’s important (at least IMO) to be specific. I’ve seen too much blanket demonizing of “teh EhVUL lib’ral” on the one hand from the Right as well as the use of obfuscatory terms like “classical liberal” (meaning modern conservative).

Doug Loss
Guest
Greg, “classical liberal” isn’t an obfuscatory term, it’s an accurate one. “Liberal” only came to mean a left-leaning statist ideology in the 1930’s, when the heretofore “progressives” had so poisoned that sobriquet in the minds of the American people that they needed some new term to hid behind. They chose “liberal” because it was associated with the beliefs of the Founding Fathers and they hoped some of that aura would transfer to them. They have (predictably) tarnished the term in the minds of the public and are now trying to resurrect “progressive” as a non-derided term, but with very little… Read more »
Vlad
Guest

Greg, it’s perfectly clear what type of liberal I’m referring to when I write “SJW/liberal”.

If you understood all that, why did you feel the need to correct me?

Reziac
Guest
Present was Christina Hoff Sommers…!! Okay, that’s serious legitimacy in my book (I greatly respect her work). When I saw the threat screencap (which by chance I happened to see in isolation first), my first thought was — that sounds like Chu’s syntax (and it is American English, *not* a Russian fluent in English). My next was to look up the Russian name, which turns out to be both common and that of a public figure… so, borrowed. My third thought was that if one needs to confuse a tweet’s traceroute, one can readily hire a cash-strapped Russian teen… so… Read more »
Greg
Guest

“Present was Christina Hoff Sommers…!! Okay, that’s serious legitimacy in my book (I greatly respect her work).”

I like what I’ve seen of it. To the current feminist “mainstream” she’s not even a woman to hear them whine about it.

Daddy Warpig
Guest

I was there. No one I saw was scared. Annoyed, yes, but not terrified.

We hung out, did our thing, and partied for FOUR MORE HOURS.

He messed with the wrong gamers.

Vlad
Guest

It really says something that reasonable people are so used to typical SJW/liberal tactics that they weren’t remotely concerned by a bomb threat, huh?

Kristophr
Guest

We are player characters. You can kill us, but you can’t scare us.

Leit
Guest

Gamer mindset insists that if someone’s trying to kill them, they’re going the right way.

Vlad
Guest

Besides, gamers don’t die. They just respawn.

Tesh
Guest

Leit, that is a very well wrought phrase. I shall remember that. Nicely phrased!

…I have little else to add to the discussion, though. I’ve been following GamerGate for months, and this doesn’t surprise me. Chu is a deranged nutter, as are many of his ilk. It’s telling that with all the “threats” out there related to the GG discussion, only this one was taken seriously by the FBI and police.

Shadowdancer
Guest

Heh, that’s what I thought when I was reading about this last night.

Reziac
Guest

“You check for traps; I’ll find the exit.”
— old BBS tagline

Joe in PNG
Guest

Now, for all you “libelslander” concern trolls, ponder this. Had Vox Day tried to harass & shut down an event, and had someone called in a bomb threat, would you not be blaming Vox right now?

Kristophr
Guest

Crimethink, Joe. You should denounce yourself.

Murgy
Guest

Joe,
You’re trying to use facts & logic again! Haven’t you been warned about that?!

Such microagressions of the gendernormative cis-male patriarchal structure are just more proof of the violence inherent in the system, and oh so 2010ish!

(/sarcasm detected in post)

James May
Guest

Shit, they’re still blaming me for the death of Tipu Sultan and all slavery on Earth (white only).

Stephen St. Onge
Guest

        If Beale had done that, the FBI would be investigating him this morning.

Reziac
Guest

Vox relayed an interesting piece on Mr.Chu this morning…

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-end-of-arthur-affect.html

rocinante2
Guest

Boy, Arthur Chu is really cranking out the kilostreisands!

“Adverse attention is a rise in the attention profile of a previously obscure phenomenon caused by the actions of an entity that opposes that phenomenon. …the triggering force is outrage, though it sometimes appears through the action of envy, pride, lust, asshattedness, butthurt, or other largely emotional psychopathologies.”

“The fundamental unit of adverse attention is the streisand, defined as one previously uninterested person achieving a degree of interest in a phenomenon sufficient to compel them to email, share, or retweet information about that phenomenon to one other person in a social network.”

http://www.contrapositivediary.com/?p=3402

AG
Guest

And in the meantime, Myke Cole (author of the Shadow Ops books) publicly calls Brad Torgersen unfit for duty, and says that “our nation deserves better”:
http://mykecole.com/blog/2015/05/an-open-letter-to-chief-warrant-officer-brad-r-torgersen

Richard McEnroe
Guest

read the first Shadow Ops book. Never felt any huge urge to read the rest. Feel none at all now. Bye, Myke.

William Underhill
Guest

Hm. I can’t claim to know CWO Torgersen, since I have done no more than chat with him a bit via Facebook. However, I’ve read his blog, and his comments in reply to people there, and frankly, I’d rather him than this character Cole. At the very least, CWO Torgersen serves his country. Does anyone know if this Cole item has spent any time in uniform, let alone enough to critique someone else’s military conduct?

Beolach
Guest

After 9/11 Myke Cole worked as a private contractor in Iraq. More recently he has been (still is?) a Lieutenant in the Coast Guard.

William Underhill
Guest

Thanks. I hope he’s atypical of coasties.

Reziac
Guest

Well, I only know one Coastie, but he’s a stand-up guy.

John R. Ellis
Guest

Remember when winning on Jeopardy meant a brief period of “water cooler talk” fame, then an obscure existence as a low rent non-celebrity who might one day turn up as a “returning champion”? Maybe? If they’re lucky?

Time to bring those days back.

rcocean
Guest

“So no, he’s not an idiot. He’s a deliberate liar, a propagandist, perhaps even a terrorist, and in his mind he is utterly justified because to admit error would break his sense of self.”

Exactly. Chu needs to be held accountable for this. If he didn’t do himself, he incited others to do it. And no it wasn’t a harmless little prank. It cost the Bar owner a lot of money and also the city police department. Further, if enough of these things happen, GG won’t be able to meet anywhere because businesses won’t want the hassle.

Nathan
Guest

That is the end goal, however. Ostracism. Unpeople don’t get to do people things.

Vlad
Guest

Of course. They are foul heretics (who dare not believe in the religion of liberalism/Social Justice) to be hunted down and destroyed.

Christopher M. Chupik
Guest
Christopher M. Chupik

To those who didn’t see it on Twitter last summer, this was the beginning of Arthur Chu’s hilarious misfire of an attack on Larry:

https://twitter.com/juliecfrost/status/476922295387054081

trackback

[…] “Arthur Chu sucks at everything but Jeopardy” – May 4 […]

Mike
Guest

And here we just had a full article about how you didn’t control Vox Day, he just happened to be inspired by what you were doing.

We need to find some way to clean up the idiot fringe of the culture war. Doubt it’ll ever happen, though.

OTOH, Vox isn’t calling it **** bomb threats!

AG
Guest

Beth Bernobich has just removed her “I want LC [Larry Correia] and his fucking minions to die in a fire” tweet.

You can still see it here:
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Dave W.
Guest

It took her almost a full year to figure out that maybe that wasn’t the smartest thing for her to say? GENIUS, I TELL YOU, GENIUS!

James May
Guest

Her very name is a testament to the anger she probably still feels for Christian men burning 9 million women in medieval Europe. The one that also erased all its people of color from history books.

James May
Guest

She seems to have just wiped all her Tweets going back to last Oct. for some reason and is no longer Tweeting. But she went further back and wiped just that one about burning.

William Underhill
Guest

Like the sign at the entrance says, ‘There’s no delete button on the internet.’ 🙂

Wolfmanjim
Guest

Chu’s whining reaction makes me think of the quip, “Self pity is not good box office.”

CSAfarmer
Guest

My wife worked at a place that was subjected to a bomb threat. The circumstances made the threat credible, the place was evacuated, cops called in etc.

Let me tell you, if I ever found out that some dipshit had done that to me or mine, there would be nothing left of him but the stain.

gibreaux
Guest

Beolach, on May 5, 2015 at 7:58 am said:
“I expect you’re already aware, but Joss Whedon was just bullied off of twitter by “feminists” angry about Age of Ultron..”

WHAT! That is like the Pope being kicked out of church for not being a good Catholic. Joss Whedon has been a staunch advocate of female empowerment his entire career! Any Feminist who doesn’t see that Joss Whedon has put strong women in the forefront of the entertainment industry for the last two DECADES is blatantly ignoring reality.
AND he knows how to tell a damned good story.

The_Jack
Guest

Call me a cynic but all of that is probably why he was targeted.

Not only would they feel more betrayed due to his past actions, but given his past stances and he migth be more open to making amends for this “hersey “.

Or one could take the idea of “Hey! Let’s pan something popular among the proles! Wrongfun bad!”

I suppose there also could be a sense of “See! This proves no man could be a feminist.”

Greg
Guest

I’ve read several of the articles at this point. He didn’t leave because of the tweets. He never really wanted to be on Twitter to begin with, and with him basically taking a break from Marvel of indeterminate length he’s just cutting back on his media interactions.

AG
Guest

No matter his reasons for leaving, I hope Whedon learned something from the vitriol.

Another one who may have learned something from the Jonathan Ross lynching last year is Neil Gaiman. I remember this article of him kind of implying that denouncing the excesses of “political correctness” was bigoted, to the delight of SJBs:
http://neil-gaiman.tumblr.com/post/43087620460/i-was-reading-a-book-about-interjections-oddly
With this way of thinking, he should have been all over the place attacking the puppies, but he seems to have said very little. I like to think that seeing the SJBs in action against his friend may have opened his eyes a little.

Richard McEnroe
Guest

Proglodytes don’t learn. That’s why they periodically experience mass die-offs. But they can do considerable damage to the environment first.

John R. Ellis
Guest

Whatever his private reaction, in public at least Whedon is using the incident to….promote Anita Sarkeesian.

Because of course he is.

Because whenever anything online involving women in any way, shape, or form happens, Anita Sarkeesian -must- be invoked.

Even when it has nothing at all to do with her. Especially when it has nothing at all to do with her.

It’s like she’s become some sort saintly paragon of strength…when all she’s ever really done is ask for money and glory in victimhood.

Vlad
Guest

PR damage control to the contrary, being back-stabbed and bullied by his own SJW brethren had a lot to do with Whedon quitting Twitter.

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James May
Guest

He’s saying not, but others are suggesting the man-lady doth protest too much.

Christopher M. Chupik
Guest
Christopher M. Chupik

You know, if you keep getting attacked by your own side, maybe they aren’t really your side.

James May
Guest

I think it’s starting to dawn on him that when his buddies say ALL men benefit from sexism and rape they actually do mean ALL men, even his buddies who have an extremely close shave in the morning because #NotAll? or something.

James May
Guest

What I love about Whedon’s denial feminists chased him off of Twitter is him saying they’ve been attacking him for so long he doesn’t really notice it. Who attacks people over frickin’ movies in the first place?

James May
Guest
SJWs are just freaks. They’re still going on with the stupid Gamergate jokes about “It’s all about ethics in…” when it clearly was exactly that for some people and ethics policies were enacted at gaming magazines and SJW gaming writers humiliated out of their gigs. Those are actual facts which SJWs simply ignore, which is what makes them people to quote and mock, not talk to; they are liars and fluent ones at that. Chu, like a lot of feminist morons, is saying Gamergate is a “nationwide” attempt to “destroy women’s lives.” I just don’t see how one can be… Read more »
Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

“Undead for 2015
‏@AaronPound

@nerds_feather 1. They are mad he pointed out BT using his wife and child as shields, and 2. They falsely allege he was behind a bomb threat”

So, is Aaron Pound alleging that Brad really WAS using his family as human shields, and that we’re mad it was pointed out? I mean, I knew Pound was a first-class jerk, but that takes the cake.

Also, from reading Pound’s Twitter stream, I see that Myke Cole is deleting comments from his open letter to Brad.

The future is certain. It’s the past that keeps changing.

Christopher M. Chupik
Guest
Christopher M. Chupik

Clarification: it’s Pound who is offering to delete some of his own comments, which even he admits were vitriolic. Irony, considering the reason.

Some other gems:

“Elizabeth Bear ‏@matociquala May 4

@MykeCole You did good, and you were right, and the terrible commenters have likely not accomplished one third what you have in life @ramez”

“Paul Weimer Republic ‏@PrinceJvstin May 4

@MykeCole yeah, I was unfortunately disheartened but not surprised. Maybe opening comments on it was a bad idea? I dunno.”

They really, really hate hearing what we have to say.

James May
Guest
You’re goddam right we hate what they have to say. Weimer’s comments in SFF are routinely racially outrageous as are those of his Skiffy Fanty colleagues Cecily Kane and Shaun Duke. The stuff Duke wrote about Brad’s family is a disgrace. The fact Skiffy and Fanty got a Hugo nod last year is a disgrace to them and to the Hugos. Elizabeth Bear’s comments are routinely outrageous, inappropriate, and hysterically inaccurate. Let’s be starkly simple and honest about what’s happening here. A cultish ideology of radical feminism claiming to speak for everyone not white, straight and male has entered SF,… Read more »
60guilders
Guest

Meanwhile, as a side note, anyone know why John C. Wright’s blog is “temporarily unavailable”?
Ordinarily I wouldn’t think anything of it, but another blog I frequent was rendered in the same state by a DDoS attack, and the author has very similar views to Wright on the current whatever-the-acronym-is-today movement.

Joe in PNG
Guest

Hes’ up, and hosting a rather fascinating metaphysical discussion regarding Nihilism & Atheism.

Wes S.
Guest

Hmmph. Looks like Arthur Chu, tireless defender of wimmin, has a few rape joke skeletons in his own closet. And perhaps some more disturbing stuff, to boot.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-end-of-arthur-affect.html#comment-form

Glass house, stones, some assembly required…

James May
Guest
“Kameron Hurley @KameronHurley · 22h 22 hours ago So many priceless reactions to ‘Ethics in Revolution.’ I love it when I piss those guys off. ::mutes:::” Somehow Hurley’s defamation of men is not so precious if you’re drawing cartoons of Mohammed; then it’s racism and needless provocation. Hurley will never say she loves it when a truly misogynistic cult like Islam gets angry nor will she ever write a satire about them. Defaming white men is a safe space. Defaming Islam is actively dangerous. Hurley can whine about white conservatives dragging her behind a truck. Ann Leckie can whine about… Read more »
Reziac
Guest

To rephrase what’s been pointed out about gun owners… if straight white males actually did all the terrrible things they’re accused of doing, there’d be no $victims or $minorities left.

As you say, it’s going after the safe target that they know won’t retaliate in any truly harmful way.

James May
Guest
Our censoring flak catching radical chic SJWs love playing pretend when it comes to diversity, but always watch feet, not lips. The last places SJWs choose to live are the first places they advocate for while where they live they most violently critique as immoral. That’s why SJWs lie simply by being awake. Intersectionalism and all its tenets is false. Hurley’s version of C. M. Kornbluth’s “The Marching Morons” is breathtaking when you consider she writes “As long as we present SFF as stuff by/for folks like Asimov, Heinlein, Bester and Ellison… Will be fewer readers.” In reality you have… Read more »
AG
Guest

Well, at least they (plural, since James S.A. Corey is the pen name used by Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck) are coherent with their own statement. They use the word ‘misandry’ and then go on to demonstrate they are morons.

James May
Guest

“N. K. Jemisin retweeted Anil Dash @anildash · Apr 29 Thing is, I have very sincere empathy for white people reckoning with no longer being the cultural default. You were raised on a myth.”

I really appreciate people who display a sincere racial empathy for my racial blindness and general inferiority. It’s nice to be cared for, especially when they assure me they are “very sincere.”

Achillea
Guest

I’d like to say that’s mighty white of them, but that would probably make me a bad person. Or at least a very snarky one.

Fornax
Guest
As someone who is both a GamerGate (GG) supporter and a lifelong sci-fi fan, I find all these dismissals of GG’s impact on this year’s Hugo Awards nominating process pretty unconvincing. I’ve been a Supporting Member for years, but until this year had never made any nominations. When GG broke out last year, that really opened my eyes tp the danger posed by the Social Justice Warriors (SJW’s). That’s why I participated in the Hugo Awards nominating process this year. I have a friend who was also a longtime Supporting Member who like myself had never made any nominations prior… Read more »
nathan
Guest

Oh, there’s overlap, no doubt. For instance, I regret that I missed the GGinDC meet up because of work, and I’ve been a Sad Puppy since #1. But there wasn’t an organized Operation like what we (GG) are accused of.

Now, as for after the nominations, I find it interesting that the Supporting Membership at Sasquan doubled in a month…

Christopher M. Chupik
Guest
Christopher M. Chupik
Kristophr
Guest

Heh. Leave it to Matt Fornay’s crowd to dig till blood flows.

The MRAs, MIGTOWs, and Pick Up Artists now have a new “Chu”-toy.

James May
Guest
Anti-white racist feminist shit Arthur Chu has quit Twitter. Even in quitting it hasn’t once dawned on him the reason people hated him is because he became the face of this weirdo fuck of a movement whose main business is to defame millions of men and whites as a group and call it social justice. What else can you expect of idiots who have all-women anthologies and companies and racially segregated spaces and call it “inclusive” and “diversity”? Everyone knows banning, blocking, deleting and intolerance increases diversity, just like review-banning men and whites does, or calling for not reading heterosexual… Read more »
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