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RightWingProf
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Looking forward to the results. On the extremely small chance you won, I’ll bring the popcorn so we can watch what would be an EPIC case of sandy yoo-hoos for the SJWs.

Never happen, but I can dream.

oldnfo
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Already done! 🙂

Belial
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It looks like Worldcon is before Dragoncon this year.

I’m not sure if you’ll be at Dragoncon, but it seems like a (sad | happy) puppy party would be fun.

I can bring a single malt and a Husky….

Murgy
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Voted.
“No Award” is making a big presence on this year’s ballot. /sigh/

Achillea
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I just no-awarded the entire Short Story category. Ye gods.

stephaniesouders
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So did I.

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JIm C.
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I’d almost like to see that exercise in Dino-Pr0n win for short story, if for no other reason than to show to what ridiculous depths the entire SF/F field has sunk over the past two decades. But, hell, it already won a Nebula, so a Hugo would be nothing but a victory lap, I suppose.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

No matter the actual results, I will forever remember this as the year Larry walked away with the Hugos.

That said, I’m rooting for Wheel of Time, if only because I don’t want Ancillary Justice to be annointed.

AndrewV
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>>That said, I’m rooting for Wheel of Time, if only because I don’t want Ancillary Justice to be annointed.<<

Same. It's a crime we never recognized Robert Jordan while he was still with us.

And since Larry pumps out books I know I'll be voting for him for years to come.

Wes S.
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I’m also voting for WoT at #1, not least because, like Andrew, I feel RJ should have already won one.

“Warbound” is my #2, and everything else is “No Award.”

DeTroyes
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WoT got #3 on my vote. I enjoyed the series, but couldn’t in good conscience vote it #1 because I felt it was far too long. Multiple 800+ page books in a row in which little actually happens put it farther down. For the record, my novel rankings were: 1) Neptune’s Brood 2) Warbound 3) Wheel of Time 4) Parasite 5) Ancillary Justice I have to admit, I’m a sucker for space opera and Neptune’s Brood was just too fun for me. I had fun with Warbound, but not as much. So when it came to voting time, I ended… Read more »
saintonge235
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WARBOUND is my number 1, and WHEEL OF TIME my number two. While I enjoyed WoT, and thought it had many virtues (the way Jordan kept coming up with surprises, e.g.), I think its defects make it less good than WARBOUND. WoT is outrageously padded. Some of the books have only about a short story’s worth of plot. WoT threw out some good ideas, then never did anything with them. E.g., the Ayes Sedai who went to the Black Tower, and then never did anything with them. Or the Towers of Midnight, which exist to provide a title for a… Read more »
trev006
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Mine’s in. When even some neutral reviewers are saying they might vote for Vox in the name of lolz (!), while also praising Warbound as a good surprise, I’m thinking pleasant things are gonna be possible. Would Damien be proclaiming that he can’t claim to be involved in sci-fi otherwise?

Well, he has even less talent than Clamps, as at least one of them put actual fiction online, but don’t ruin this for me dammit.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

If anything on Larry’s slate wins, I predict rioting. By which I mean 5-6 SJWs running amuck in bookstores, tearing Baen Books off the shelf and screaming “No justice, no peace!”

trev006
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That statement happens to be true, but good old-fashioned truncheons tend to enforce justice and peace.

Dr. Mauser
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People who shout that have the most peculiar ideas about what Justice means.

Peace, for that matter too.

DeTroyes
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I’m pretty certain that the SJW’s will consider any result that has a Sad Puppy story ranking above “no award” to be a complete travesty, no matter what the final ranking winds up being. And if Warbound manages to rank above even one of their darlings, then that will be proof positive of fandom’s entrenched racism/homophobia/fascism/close mindedness/whatever.

I’m actually an attending member of Loncon and intend to be on hand for the Hugo ceremony. So no matter what, Mr. Correia will have at least one supporter in the audience. 😉

Fail Burton
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The gap between Walter’s arrogance and his hideous writing is amazing. It may take him years to unlearn what he’s learned in creative writing. But then this is a generation which will nitpick The Mote in God’s Eye for character’s and planet’s names and sexism while somehow managing to ignore its amazing cleverness. Today you apparently having amazing names for planets and characters, no racism and sexism, lots of diversity and little idea of how to tell and interesting and innovative story. Ann Leckie’s Ancillary Justice may have been considered innovative in 1964 when it would nevertheless would have been… Read more »
Nathan
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Perhaps, though Sad Puppies could cause an upset. If No Award won for Short Story, for instance…

Achillea
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the short story category, which is a guaranteed pit of doom. It’s possible the best short story from any issue of The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction 1950-65 surpasses them.

Hell, the worst F&SF short story from that period surpasses them.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Another outpouring of anti-Larry, anti-libertarian, anti-Baen hatred is incoming, no matter what the results. I expect they’ll try to make next years Hugos more “inclusive”, with the opposite results.

Nathan
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I wonder if Damien will drop another hit piece or use the time to gloat, just like he did prior to the nominations. Or is it possible that his recent “departure” from SFF is in response to a projected result?

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

His “departure” was him quoting William Gibson without saying he was, that’s all. He was very unclear about it.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Looks like he’s getting his hate on. Here’s Damien in response to something Arthur Chu said about Larry:

“@arthur_affect They can team up to tether boobs and slap bitches.”

Keep it classy, Damien.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Charles Tan on Twitter:

“This year’s Hugo voting is a fight of light over darkness, of good vs. evil…”

No comment. I’ll let the absurdity stand on its own.

Andrew
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Well, that’s pretty much what I thought Grimnoir was about so…

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

I think we’re supposed to be the “darkness”. Good thing a leftie said that. Otherwise it would be offensive.

Fail Burton
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Charles Tan is yet another of the weepy flock of the justice league of race and gender, with SFF literature a distant third place.

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
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Is he from the Philippines? If that’s the Charles Tan I think you’re talking about, I knew him back during my college days.

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
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And yep, it is.

I’ll have to give him some props though; one of the first Philippine fantasy anthologies I’d read he helped put out and while it seemed to carry the usual theme of ‘must include X’ where X is some form of Filipino culture thing, the stories themselves didn’t strike me as message first story later. I actually felt hopeful about Filipino authors expanding in skill and story.

This was some years ago.

I don’t know how things have gone since though because I don’t know if any anthologies are available for purchase outside the Philippines.

samwisegilgee
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I don’t think I would go so far as comparing it to good vs. evil or light vs. darkness, both sides can have their good and bad points. I think this may be more of a “Guess what you pc loons, there are other people in the world and your going to have to suck it up because we have to put up with you too. O by the way we popped your insulated comfort bubble, here is some of the real world to patch it up for you.” Something along those lines anyway perhaps, sometimes people just need their… Read more »
Guess
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I can’t figure out the difference between semiprozine and fanzine. The explanation looked the same. The only difference to me is.. one had elitist book reviews so they got my first place vote. Its my favorite fantasy review site. However, when I checked out all of the sites, they seemed to all be very high quality. Those were tough categories. Way too many nerds who need to go outside and get some exercise… Voted for WoT. I am 40 now and started reading when I was 16. Have read them and listened to audio. Charles Stross is probably the biggest… Read more »
brianniemeier
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You put in the work and made informed decisions. As for your tastes, de gustibus…

Well done.

Khazlek
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I think the 25% rule is a bad one. I ended up voting in a few more categories than I would really have liked because of it. I found the Vox story to be OK though not really Hugo-worthy, but that makes it better than several pieces of shorter fiction I’ve seen on Hugo ballots. I also picked Mary’s story for Novelette. I picked Torgerson then Stross for Novella, and Stross then Corriea for Novel. I tried one volume of WoT. It struck me as yet another fantasy novel. It seems likely to me that the great enthusiasm for this… Read more »
saintonge235
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Guess, on August 1, 2014 at 2:13 am said: “I can’t figure out the difference between semiprozine and fanzine. The explanation looked the same.” That’s because they are the same. Originally, the prozines were ASTOUNDING, GALAXY, THE MAGAZINE OF FANTASY & SCIENCE FICTION, etc. The fanzines were obviously amateur productions, usually available for “the usual” (a letter of comment on the previous issue, a cartoon/article/story, or a few books to cover printing and mailing expenses). But then a few fanzines began to get substantial paid circulations, such as LOCUS or the late Dick Geis’s SCIENCE FICTION REVIEW. Some SMOFs felt… Read more »
trev006
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http://bookish.livejournal.com/3618252.html

Watching the perspectives of others might be useful to people who care about expanding the boundaries of sci-fi. Bonus points for a relatively neutral reviewer being freaked out by Clamps!

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
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The moment I saw your link was on LJ it was inevitable that Yama/Clamps would appear. I looked at the review itself, and yeah, that’s a pretty neutral and fair-sounding reviewer.

Wes S.
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“You really are a little obsessive, aren’t you?” Haha, priceless.

Although Bookish’s assessment of the short story category was pretty funny, too: “Who I think will win? Swirsky and her dino-lover. F**king shoot me.”**

A good review, by somebody who actually took the time to read the selections and make an informed judgement.

(**Like a couple of others here, I’m really hoping “NO AWARD” is the runaway winner in that particular Hugo category this year…)

physicsgeeky
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so if you joined the crusade to combat the scourge of Puppy Related Sadness don’t forget to get your votes in Done and done. Rereading the slate from 1939 (I have a pile of classic scifi/fantasy in my house) was quite enjoyable. What was NOT so enjoyable was the obvious disparity in quality between the 1939 slate and the one from this year, with a few exceptions, of course. ::cough:: I see from the comments above that I was not the only person to vote “No Award” for the entire Short Story category. To be honest, I would have voted… Read more »
Fail Burton
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The four stories are a perfect paradigm of the diversity/identity/non-Western agenda of radical feminism. It is quite literally the irrelevance and therefore death of any consideration for art and entertainment. What it tells you is that the Hugos is as lost as the Nebulas, and both virtually indistinguishable from the funhouse that is WisCon. The idea that you can just plug in race here and gay there and gender over there is a farce. No one comes to SFF from reading such trash, but they’ll certainly leave it. The word “embarrassment” isn’t enough to portray such stories. And that’s not… Read more »
Beolach
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I put “Ink Readers” above No Award, because while it wasn’t really ‘great’ by my taste, I thought it was at least ‘legitimately eligible’, ergo better than No Award. The other three were awful well past the level of ‘legitimately eligible’, so No Award gets #2. I’d like to find a source for actually good short stories. In general they’re my least favorite category; I usually prefer more story than a short can deliver. But short stories at least are very not time-consuming, and I’d REALLY like to see better candidates for next year’s ballot. Anyone have any suggestions?
BornLib
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I also voted for “The Ink Readers of Doi Saket” for best short story.

Beolach, every so often something good will turn up on baen.com

Last year I particularly liked Freer’s “The Krumhorn and Misericorde”, Merz’s “The Sorcerer of Daigawa”, and Spoor’s “Skyspark”

Michael Swanwick has also been penning some good stuff for tor.com (the “Mongolian Wizard” series)

Achillea
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I considered “Ink Readers,” which was at least readable and mildly entertaining, but ‘readable and mildly entertaining’ struck me as too low a bar to set for ‘Hugo Award-worthy.’ Never did care for grading on a curve.

Fail Burton
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How about “The Carnivorous Venus Fly-Traps of Doi Saket”? How hard would that be? “Ink Readers”? How about “What Crawled out of the Radioactive Pit of Doi Saket”? “Wakulla Springs” actually had the real Black Lagoon and no Creature. Who wants to read “The Cis-Racists of the Black Lagoon”? What if I wrote stuff like this all the time? Would it be “The Black Creature of the White Convenience Store Robbery”? Isn’t that what our SFWA crew is really doing and selling it as fantastic literature? Go write something like “Mommy I Wanna Be the Christian President of Egypt But… Read more »
Patrick Mullane
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Sorry if this has been already post, but when are the Hugo results released?

Beolach
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From http://loncon3.org/hugo_awards.php

The Hugo Awards are presented at a formal ceremony, which is always considered to be one of the highlights of the Worldcon. The ceremony at Loncon 3 will take place on the evening of Sunday 17 August 2014. We hope to continue the recent tradition of streaming the ceremony live via the internet, enabling fans around the world to take part in this celebration of the best of the year’s science fiction.
The Retro Hugos for 1939 will be presented in a separate ceremony at Loncon 3 on Thursday 14 August 2014.

BornLib
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I only voted for Warbound for best novel. The only other novel I read was Parasite and it is not an award quality novel. I read all of the novellas, novelettes, and short stories except “If You Were a Dinosaur, My Love” which wasn’t in the voter’s packet for some reason. I voted: 1. The Butcher of Khardov, 2. The Chaplain’s Legacy, 3. Six-Gun Snow White, 4. No Award (I liked Wakulla Springs but it’s not genre fiction and Equoid was just awful) 1. The Exchange Officers, 2, Opera Vita Aeterna, 3. The Waiting Stars, 4. The Lady Astronaut of… Read more »
Achillea
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My list was fairly similar. Novel: 1) Warbound. 2) Wheel of Time. 3) No Award. The other three, all I had in a readable format was crappy PDFs of the first hundred or so pages of each. Of those, only Parasite was even remotely interesting, and not enough that to persuade me to cough up so much as the $2 for the Kindle version. Novella: 1) Chaplain’s Legacy. 2) Butcher of Khardov (well-written, but I just wanted everyone in it to hurry up and die). 3) No Award. Wakulla Springs was fairly well done, but not genre. Six-Gun Snow White… Read more »
DeTroyes
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Six Gun Snow White started off well, but then it veered off into “all men are evil”/womyn-power territory, and there it completely lost me.

Brad Torgerson actually had my #1 votes on both his stories (REALLY liked Chaplains Legacy and hope he writes more in that universe). I agree about Wakulla Springs, but suspect it will win anyway.

And yeah, the short story noms were all abysmal. The only good things about them were their brevity.

Really interested now to see the final results.

Cristiona
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KHorn
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Oh dear God was that awful. I have to admit that I did not join the sad puppy brigade this year, was spending a lot of time on international travel, but I will next year if only just to vote against mind numbing crap like this.

DeTroyes
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Everything wrong with modern SF/F summed up in one nomination.

jic
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Two questions:

1) Is that a joke?

2) Seriously, is that a freakin’ joke?

That must be a spoof. It can’t possibly be a genuine *Hugo-nominated short story*, can it? It isn’t even a short story, and I wouldn’t call it science fiction or fantasy. It’s like a poem from one of those godawful high school anthologies that put me off poetry for 15 years. It’s just so, so bad.

Fail Burton
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If you were Godzilla my love, they you’d be a Toho Productions green giant. A small one, only 10 kabillion meters tall, the same height as the jet-stream as seen from Mars. You’d have pork chop bones and you’d walk like this: Aaarrrggh!!!! Ya ya ya!! Destroy!!! Your breath would laze building from many miles away, setting them on fire. If you were Godzilla, then I would become a running, screaming Japanese, so I could spend all my time mashed flat on the bottom of your huge paws. I’d sing you songs like “Rock Around the Clock” and I’d feed… Read more »
AaronW.
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Fail Burton:

Well, I know what I’ll be nominating for the Hugo next year. Do things published in blog comments count I wonder?

Lea
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I never know anymore if things like this are real or satire. The world has gone mad.

Detroyes
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I note, however, that despite winning the Nebula, Dino My Love has been curiously absent from all of the “Best of 2013” anthologies thus far released; it doesn’t even merit an honorable mention in those volumes. In fact, most of the short story, novelette, and novella noms are absent.

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
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… *shudder* I stared at that link for DAYS before I clicked on it. And goddamnit what the nine hells was that? That’s not a story. And that is not a T-rex, that’s an orinthomimus with limp forepaws with delusions of grandeur. The ‘writer’ has some seriously screwy sex fetishes and fantasies lumped into here as well.

I read parts of it out loud to folks here and the responses were 1) laughter and 2) ‘What the fucking shit is that and stop killing my brain with it, it’s worse than crap. Did Yama write that?’

Khazlek
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The Dino story is available free at the Apex Magazine site:
http://www.apex-magazine.com/if-you-were-a-dinosaur-my-love/

It’s too late, to vote, but you can still appreciate the …uh… discourse about it.

KHorn
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It’s so hard to pick the dumbest line out of dreck like this, but I nominate “They’d grasp each other for comfort instead of seizing the pool cues with which they beat you, calling you a fag, a towel-head, a shemale, a sissy, a spic, every epithet they could think of, regardless of whether it had anything to do with you or not, shouting and shouting as you slid to the floor in the slick of your own blood.” So, her fiancée is an Arabic, Hispanic with breast implants who’s gay? Talk about trying to fit in as many victim… Read more »
Khazlek
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“It’s so hard to pick the dumbest line out of dreck like this, but I nominate”

I’m pretty sure that is the strangest line. Either his tormentors are really uncertain about why they are persecuting the guy or she has a Schroedinger’s boyfriend.

Fundamentally it isn’t actually a story. I’ve read blogs that lovingly describe Swirsky’s powerful use of language. I agree; the lines are beautiful, but that doesn’t make them a story.

This story has already won the Nebula, and I think it has an excellent chance of winning the Hugo.

KHorn
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Yes, I seriously doubt the men who beat Emmet Till to death were shouting, “You damn dago, mick, spic papist!” As I’ve commented elsewhere, the con also posted the 1939 retro award nominations, and just look at the short story list: Best Short Story 1.”Hollerbochen’s Dilemma” by Ray Bradbury (Imagination!, January 1938) 2.”How We Went to Mars” by Arthur C. Clarke (Amateur Science Stories, March 1938) 3.”Helen O’Loy” by Lester del Rey (Astounding Science-Fiction, December 1938) 4.”The Faithful” by Lester del Rey (Astounding Science-Fiction, April 1938) 5.”Hyperpilosity” by L. Sprague de Camp (Astounding Science-Fiction, April 1938) How can anyone compare… Read more »
Julaire
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How can anyone compare that list to the current short story nominees and not see how far the genre has fallen.

—–

KHorn, the answer is sadly simple. There are people who compare that list to the current short story nominees and claim that the genre has progressed leaps and bounds because the 1938 list is all white men, while the 2014 list isn’t. They’re more concerned about check boxes of race or gender instead of the quality of the literature. And those people are the ones who (usually) vote in the Hugos.

Dr. Mauser
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Other results of note: Baen announced the winners of the Baen Fantasy Award on the same page they had the rules and submission guidelines on.

GRAND PRIZE: “The Golden Knight” by K. D. Julicher

FIRST RUNNERUP: “Phoenix for the Amateur Chef” by Scott Huggins

SECOND RUNNERUP: “The Girl with No Name” by Travis Heermann

So I guess I can go and put mine up on DA.

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
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Oh nice! Congratulations to the winners! ^o^ Must’ve been super tough for the judges!

(I’m still wondering who the rest of the top 15 were. Can we know who?)

I’m gonna expand mine. All my beta readers felt it could be longer and I have to agree.

Dr. Mauser
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*pouty face* now I’m even more sure my e-mail didn’t go through.

(Just kidding).

I’m just going to have to write a lot more shorts so I can do a collection. The shorts I already have don’t fit together into ANY kind of reasonable order.

I can at least console myself that I got Larry to read something of mine. Although I don’t know if it’s a blessing or a curse that he didn’t know it was mine.

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
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Going through mine right now and changing the underlined sections to italics.

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
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I’m hoping that Larry was entertained for a few minutes by my entry!

Dr. Mauser
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I’ve gone and put mine up for people to read freely now. (link to my DA page in my WordPress name link).

David MacKinnon
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Went to Larry’s first panel last night at OSfest. Travis Heerman was also on that panel (Character building). They didn’t realize they were connected (Larry being a judge on the short stories, Travis being a finalist) and they talked about this. Man, Larry is a great guy.

Eamon J. Cole
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Saw that yesterday. Now I just need to decide where I want to go with mine, now that it’s mine again…

And, as Shadowdancer said: Congrats to the winners! I look forward to reading the winning story!

jabrwok
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One of the other non-winners is available via Amazon at http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MAYJCVM

Not a bad story IMO.

On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Monster Hunter Nation wrote:

> Eamon J. Cole commented: “Saw that yesterday. Now I just need to > decide where I want to go with mine, now that it’s mine again… And, as > Shadowdancer said: Congrats to the winners! I look forward to reading the > winning story!” >

Eamon J. Cole
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Thanks. Picked it up.

wyrdbard
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I’m in the same boat.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Congrats to the winners. 🙂

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

So, I’m hearing on Twitter that the 2014 Hugos have content guidelines for speeches, for the first time ever. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that they feel the need to control speech, but they aren’t exactly proving Larry and Company wrong by such a move.

DaveP.
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More likely they’re afraid one of the SJW winners will make the mistake of saying the kinds of things in front of a recording device that they normally only say in tweets to each other.

Achillea
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That or they’re afraid Larry or Vox will win, and say something that triggers the SJWs in the audience. All those mobility scooters getting jammed in the doorway trying to flee … somebody might get hurt.

Fail Burton
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What are they going to say? “Damn you, SAD PUPPIES!! Damn your Tea Party white militia all to hell!!”

It’s not like they’ll even mention he who must not be mentioned other than all the time.

What does that leave? “I’d like to thank all the non-binary marginalized PoC for their support while we go through this 5,000 year patriarchy phase into a future with fewer whites and stinking traditional families.”

Bradoplata (@bradoplata)
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Bradoplata (@bradoplata)

Fail, I enjoyed your godzilla story.

Darrell
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From a comment on the recent Tor review of Warbound: “I read the trilogy and found myself a bit surprised: I had thought that Correia disliked “preachy message fiction”. And yet it has a fair bit of message, particularly in the second book — the main antagonist embodies a collectivist philosophy, while the suicide-bomber dupe is a fairly perfect straw man for anti-capitalism. The portrayal of FDR is more than a bit on the preachy side as well. So why doesn’t this preaching make puppies sad? Is it somehow not preaching? (I’d be interested to know why not, since it… Read more »
jabrwok
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Larry’s replied to these kinds of comments before, and you pretty well sum up his responses with your last parenthetical.

Story *first*, then message (if message is there at all). I’ll leave it to Larry and the rest of the Nation to elaborate beyond that.

Steve
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One of the things I liked most about the Hard Magic trilogy was how the bad guys had plausible – sometimes even noble – goals and reasons for behaving the way they did, and they made sense in the context of the story. Not just the Imperium, but the US government characters like J Edgar Hoover. And even the Grimnoir are capable of doing evil things in the service of what they believe to be right. In the Monster Hunter series, though it’s not hard to guess where the author’s sympathies lie, the federal employees Myers, Franks and Jefferson turn… Read more »
junior
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Paul, it sounds as if the storyline ignored what should be pretty basic stuff for the Marvel Universe. The so-called “X gene” was mapped back during the ’90s, iirc. And detecting genetic-based problems in kids is something that’s now done with modern real-world technology. It’s possible that the story took place before the latter became possible (I’m not familiar with it), but in the current Marvel universe it should merely be a matter of combining two separate known things. Or in other words, any major hospital should be quite capable of carrying out the necessary fetal testing.
jabrwok
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One of the silly things about the Marvel-verse mutant programs is that they’re always trying to *eliminate* mutancy. If I lived in that universe I’d want to see the source of mutant powers discovered *so I could get some for myself!*. Who wouldn’t want to be able to fly, or leap tall buildings in a single bound, or regenerate from any injury?

Wanting to eliminate mutations is like wanting to eliminate good eyesight or high IQs.

TXRed
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Don’t give the SJWs any more bright ideas, Jabrwok, please oh please.

Synova
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On one early episode of the Highlander TV series, Duncan recovers from a bad injury. The doctor notices, drugs him, and kidnaps him in order to discover the medical miracle. Granted, the doctor was in now way a “good guy”, but this seems like something even the good guys would want to know.

Wolverine heals from everything… instead of doing everything possible to learn the secret of healing all wounds and repairing all injuries and living forever, we’re going to replace all his bones and turn him into a weapon?

jabrwok
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Most popular media suffers from a “nothing ever really changes” mentality. See every episode of Star Trek ever, where they discover/invent a miracle technology and then never mention it again.

I didn’t much care for _The Authority_ comic series, but at least one of the sub-stories in it involved discovering the sources of the powers of super-heroes, and commercializing them. I don’t remember the details though.

Khazlek
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There was a Next Generation episode in which they accidentally make several characters younger, until they turn into children. They eventually figure out how to reverse the process.

Nothing is ever said about this again.

analogkid
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“Don’t give the SJWs any more bright ideas, Jabrwok, please oh please.”

You mean they’re not already taking Harrison Bergeron as an instruction manual?

“Most popular media suffers from a “nothing ever really changes” mentality. See every episode of Star Trek ever, where they discover/invent a miracle technology and then never mention it again.”

DS9 was less prone to this, since they actually had a plot that had to go somewhere. (There are probably instances, but some plot threads get dropped in every long-running series.)

junior
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TV Tropes, of course, has tropes for this. “Reed Richards is Useless” describes how, despite the fact that Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four can open portals to distant worlds and construct amazing devices, he can’t seem to do much more practical things, such as cure cancer. And there’s the related villain trope, “Cut Lex Luthor a Check”, which ties into the fact that most super villains could earn a lot more money selling their toys than they could using their toys to, say, rob a bank.

jic
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“most super villains could earn a lot more money selling their toys than they could using their toys to, say, rob a bank.”

There was an episode of *Phineas and Ferb* (*Backyard Hodge Podge*, to be exact) where they did that one: Dr Doofenshmirtz started receiving patent royalty checks for an invention that was being used in eve examinations, and it upset him that his success was coming from good rather than evil.

jic
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*eye* examinations.

DeTroyes
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FWIW, according to Dave McCarty (who sits on Loncon’s concom), this years Hugo Awards vote was the largest it’s ever been for a Hugo ballot.

He lists it as 3587 votes cast for the regular Hugos (all time record), and 1307 votes cast for the retro-Hugo’s (not a record, but “respectable”).

While the nominations kerfuffle undoubtedly contributed to the higher turnout , I’d like to point out that Loncon 3 is currently on track to be the largest Worldcon ever; 6k-7k attending certainly, 10k not outside the realm of possibility.

Jeff (@codemonkey1972)
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Stumbled across something via Google you might find amusing when you wake up after a few days of post-GenCon hibernation, Larry. Orbit Books put up a congratulations note to Leckie for winning (http://www.orbitbooks.net/2014/08/17/hugo-goes/) which now reads like this: “Our heartfelt congratulations go to Ann and to all of the other finalists.” However, via Google cache (http://bit.ly/1oHFKln), you can see it used to read like so: “Our heartfelt congratulations to Ann and to all of the finalists – Mira Grant, Charles Stross, Larry Correia (for the BRILLIANT Warbound series, published by Baen Books) and Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson.” Can’t imagine… Read more »
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