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And now the Hugo Controversy makes the Washingon Post

Boom. I’m on a roll. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/04/29/the-politics-of-science-fiction/

Pretty fair write up all things considered. To show that I’m biased however, he links to THE CHECKLIST. 😀

Best part is from the comments, when somebody points out that the link they used to demonstrate my detractors begins with: Trigger warning: slurs, ableism, racism, sexism, transmisogyny, homophobia, xenophobia, anti-semitism, colonialism.

Yes, that certainly sounds like a Special and Unique Snowflake.

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T.L. Knighton
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FWIW, the Volokh Conspiracy is actually pretty libertarian.

That said, you’re everywhere now. What’s funny is that the left, by virtue of trying to keep you out of the Hugo’s winner’s circle (a place you have already said you don’t expect to end up), are probably going to make you a shitload more money.

BornLib
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“FWIW, the Volokh Conspiracy is actually pretty libertarian.”

One of the links Ilya Somin has is to his own article in the Libertarian Futurist Society newsletter, so yeah.

Chris Upchurch
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Yep. It’s also home to two of the nation’s foremost Second Amendment scholars (Eugene Volokh and David Kopel).

T.L. Knighton
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Exactly.

kristophr
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That checklist needs to be on your bests page.

Larry Mitchell
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The Streisand Effect

thewriterinblack
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I’m wondering if you need to add an item to the Checklist “Claim a moral equivalence and pretend it’s being ‘fair’.”

Karl Sandwell-Weiss
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And I bet that Mr. Correia’s quarterly income tax payments are going through the roof, due to all the books he’s selling because of this kerfuffle.

Karl Sandwell-Weiss
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Please don’t take that comment as a negative. Living well is the best revenge.

SirBrass
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Except when you live so well that you become a target for government sanctioned thieves. Know what my BIGGEST beef with the IRS is, besides the size of the tax code? That it actively discourages advancement b/c as one earns more, when one goes to the next higher bracket, he then ends up with LESS than before he got a raise because that little few thousand per year bump just put him in a bracket where he’s now taxed many more than those few thousands extra per year. Sorry, I know I’m ranting, but tax season is still leaving me… Read more »
Dleavitt
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@SirBrass:
That’s…that’s not how it works. Like at all. Only the income above the bracket threshold is taxed at the higher rate.

By all means, stay pissed at the IRS. I know I am, having to deal with their shenanigans on a daily basis as a tax preparer. But let us be mad at them for the right reasons.

Khazlek
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Know what my BIGGEST beef with the IRS is, besides the size of the tax code? That it actively discourages advancement b/c as one earns more, when one goes to the next higher bracket, he then ends up with LESS than before he got a raise because that little few thousand per year bump just put him in a bracket where he’s now taxed many more than those few thousands extra per year. For all the flaws of the tax code, that doesn’t happen. The higher rate is only paid on the amount you earn above the bracket. Everything you… Read more »
Joel Salomon
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And here I though the tax rates were “marginal” in the sense that they will just barely not trigger armed rebellion. 😉

Ray
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“If only there was some sort of agreed upon standard for how we should assess books based on their covers.”

Holy cow, that was EPIC!

T.L. Knighton
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Yeah, that was pretty damn good.

I doubt most people will even comprehend it.

Joel Salomon
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And how!

I was going to comment on the obvious concern trolling of the “right-leaning libertarian lover of science fiction” (I’ll bet he ever read Heinlein and Orson Card!) who was turned off by the covers on Larry’s books—but the perfection of the “Tenth Justice” reply cannot be improved upon.

Joel Salomon
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Typo correction: “ever read” should be “even reads”.

WrightMinded
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Still no mention of either the USA Today Article or the Washington Post article in the “Blinks” section of locusmag.com (left-hand column). I guess they are ignoring the kerfuffle because, as Glenn Reynolds is wont to say, “it doesn’t fit the narrative.”

Kristophr
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Win.

They don’t realize that bnormal folks look at that checklist, and say “Yup”, and “thanx!”.

John Wlas
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There is no such thing as bad publicity. When the Village Voice, Mother Earth, The Rolling Stone, La O’sservatore Romano and Pravda pick it up you will have ‘arrived’.

The Phantom
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Go Larry!

This is turning out to be a fairly big deal for something that started as a joke, eh?

There’s something or other that Camile Paglia said when her new history of art book came out that is making this whole Sad Puppies thing ring like a bell for me. When I find it in my mental lumber room I’ll post it. Something about the beginning of winning the culture war is seizing back the Arts from these crapulous post-modernism weasels.

Seizing back the Hugos could be the mission that breaks the dam.

That makes you Barnes Wallis, Larry. ~:D

The Phantom
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Found it. http://phantomsoapbox.blogspot.ca/2012/10/disagreeing-with-camile-paglia.html My disagreement was not that she was wrong that Fine Art was dying, but over what was killing it. She thought it was: “What has sapped artistic creativity and innovation in the arts? Two major causes can be identified, one relating to an expansion of form and the other to a contraction of ideology.” I think its just HATE. Lefties don’t make art, they make things which mock it. Much the same is happening in SF, with the genre of endless wonder, of “What if…?” getting shackled by PC idiots and used to draw the poo wagon… Read more »
Fail Burton
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It’s true: look at documentary still photography dating from the mid-50s. Before that it was all about the document. After that it was all about making fun of people: a guy smoking a cigar at a rodeo by Robert Frank, the Daughters of the American Revolution by Avedon, old people playing miniature golf, etc. It passed itself off as self-reflection but it was disdain, the same false mechanism of “examining your privilege” the PC in SFF tout today. There is no “examining your privilege,” since the outcome is predetermined. There is only confessing to your privilege. More Orwellian semantics placed… Read more »
The Phantom
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I just love that “check your privilege” thing. In a free and open society, you don’t get any. You take whatever talent you have and make of it what you can. Getting lucky at birth is essentially meaningless, you can always lose it all. In the hellish New Feudalism proposed by the Left, you’re granted whatever privilege you’re going to get at birth by which victim group you’re born into. These idiots want to make it IMPORTANT if you’re some kind of gender-bent non-standard type. I prefer to point out guys like RuPaul who took non-standard and made a career… Read more »
rek
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Camille Paglia rocks…

“I’m absolutely a feminist. The reason other feminists don’t like me is that I criticize the movement, explaining that it needs a correction. Feminism has betrayed women, alienated men and women, replaced dialogue with political correctness.”

‘The problem with gun-control laws is that they only work on already law-abiding citizens. Although I don’t own guns, I respect those who do. And I venerate the armed woman as a transcendent symbol of independent female power — from ancient goddesses like the Venus Armata or the knife-wielding Hindu Kali to the pistol-packing babes of “Charlie’s Angels.” ‘

soireadthisbooktoday
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I agree Camille. I was a feminist back when feminism often meant getting your name on an FBI watch list. I worked hard, and did what I could to make sure that we gained rights on a level with white men. I consider myself “PC” to a certain level. But reality is a strong watchword for me. And censorship is ridiculous – if you want to be stupid, no matter if you are a “Righty” or a “Lefty” that is your right as an American. I can ignore it if I don’t like it, that is my right. When it… Read more »
James Resoldier
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I will agree that the post article was fair. As for the rest? Let ’em whine… I didn’t get registered in time, so I won’t be voting this year, but I will be sure to vote next year when funds are more available

dave
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My Lord Larry, I must express my fear and trepidation. It appears that someone in Washington DC is aware of your book, perhaps they have read it. Be alert for trucks with “BLM” on the sides and rocket armed drones. 😉 Have you noticed how the Antilarryians at some point during thier tirade will say ” Some one must like him because he has legions of fans, and sells books like crazy.” Do they never stop and say “gee, legions of people don’t like me . Maybe i’m wrong.” In other news, one of our shooting buddies, and Eagle scout,… Read more »
dyingearth
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ATF is already aware of Larry due to his past occupation as a gun dealer. The Washington Post article is a discussion about Glen Instapundit Reynold’s USA Today article, and that is part of the Volokh Conspiracy, a group blog of libertarian Constitutional Law professors primarily based in UCLA and other law schools.

Fail Burton
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“…. consider how horribly bland a future would be that is made up entirely of white male Anglo-American engineers. Boooooring.” – comment below Washington Post article

Mooooon landing.

I’m always amazed at how casually and commonly the PC make remarks they themselves gnash their teeth over as racism and sexism if you change one word.

“Consider delta blues, music made up entirely by black male African-Americans. Boooooring. Rap – black – boooooring. Black… boooooring.”

Once again, Orwellian doublethink is the only term that applies.

Tarl
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A future in which everything is orderly, everything works, the country actually makes stuff, technology advances… bland and boring indeed.

Thankfully the country is going in a completely different direction!

Don
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Yeah, if someone comes to your house with a shotgun and asks you to ‘cut on the dotted line’, just say ‘no’.

Joshua
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NYTs is next! It’ll be curious to see how they twist this to fit the narrative.

lairdb
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Somin says: “Libertarian ideas, for example, are far more common in science fiction than any other literary genre. The same is likely true of far left viewpoints.” Is it? I’d readily believe that the diversity of ideas (and -isms specifically) is probably wider in science fiction than any other genre, but that’s something of a side-effect (or perhaps a core outcome) of it being speculative. That aside, are far-left viewpoints “far more common in science fiction than in any other literary genre”? (There are an infinite number of jokes to be made here about far-left viewpoints being common in modern… Read more »
Bubbasrelm
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It makes sense. As a writer, the further you get from here and now, the more you have to build the world your writing in. That means answering those pesky questions in your head like, what kind of government exists, why, how did it get there, is it important to the story, are there other societies, what are their views, how do they function? MHI has world building, although not to the degree Grimnoir has. I bet even dead six does it too although that is on my to read list. And Larry’s work isn’t that fantastical. He takes a… Read more »
Guess
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Who is Arachne Jericho? He looks like a book reviewer at TOR. He doesn’t seem to be a writer. I googled him and I saw some book reviews on TOR, his ‘blog’ which has that 1 post and that one post only.

I don’t think this blog post in the Washington Post is that bad. He just copy and paste summarized 2 sides. The bloggers on these pages rip off large amounts of material and the quality is usually pretty bad. Several years ago there was a really stupid hit piece on Joe Abercrombie about the violence in his books.

Fail Burton
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Who is Arachne Jericho? Go on their Twitter feed and read it. It’s alarming to say the least. Then think of multiple Hugo nominee Seanan McGuire’s hysterical break down on Twitter over Jonathan Ross – a perfectly run-of-the-mill well known UK TV comedian – hosting the Hugos. Then think of a Hugo nominee publicly claiming people in America want to kill her, drag her behind a truck, and that that motivates her. Then think of a multiple award nominee analogizing America punches her every day. Then think of the general PC meme that they live in a racial cis-patriarchy that… Read more »
SBP
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What we’re seeing here is exactly the same thing that happened in Salem from 1692-93 and Germany from 1933-1945. Exactly. Fortunately these people don’t actually have the power to murder anyone (though they certainly can and do destroy lives and careers).

I’m glad to see some distancing going on. Unfortunately some people (Scalzi, Hines, the Nielsen Haydens) have gone too far around the bend to back down. I don’t see this ending well for any of them, career-wise.

Eric Hoffer wrote a great book about this type.

The Phantom
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Would you be willing to supply names? Because if so, I’d be willing to post ’em on my blog and link to the mental parts.

Know thine enemy.

Underwhelmed
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A righteous rant, and unfortunately no exaggeration. The difficulty is that many of these people have encountered crap in their lives, have endured sexual violence or racism. The tragedy is that their tragedies have become a systemic illness within the community — with terrible damage being done to folk who’ve never deliberately or wilfully harmed another in their lives. It’s also incredibly frustrating when their distorted views are inflamed by guys like Vox Day, whose opinions on some issues (taking him at face value, and I’m not sure it’s possible to do anything else) make him pretty reprehensible. This is… Read more »
Joshua
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There’s a simpler explanation for much of it in ECON 101. Moral superiority is a positional good. It signals your status relative to the mainstream. Like listening to a great avant-garde alternative band before they attain mainstream popularity, or going to an Ivy League school or a fine dining experience, which you do not for any intrinsic value inherent in what you’re consuming, but because you gain a sense of superiority and exclusiveness from doing so. Once that alternative band becomes mainstream, you have to accuse them of “selling out” and look for something else. You no longer have any… Read more »
mikewb1971
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Arachne’s blog entry I currently tumbl takes you to this site Life is Like a Bad RPG where you can find this page http://lifeislikeabadrpg.tumblr.com/about-me which features the paragraph I enjoy board games and tea and writing. I am writing a serial for 2014 that features a transgender disabled Inuk with PTSD in a bi-romantic relationship with a bi-gender Chinese-Vietnamese with bipolar. They are studying in a college of the gods to be advanced spiritual powers. It is that kind of story. I cannot physically get drunk enough to think up stuff like this – I’ve drank my fill in the… Read more »
Synova
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I don’t get this… (From the Washington Post comments…)

“It’s this child-like habit which keeps it [science fiction] stuck in the genre ghetto, and which may explain its appeal to libertarians.”

What is it about people who have to demonstrate their intellectual superiority by trashing what someone else enjoys? And then to add a political insult zinger on there, for a bonus I suppose.

I guess this person is insulting the SJW’s as “child-like” as well, but in the end… why?

Bubbasrelm
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Because to a certain set of intellectual elites anything that involves escapism is simply seen as childish. I know a few of them(well they think they are).

These folks also tell me that when i say that sometimes you should let your inner 12 year old out to play tell me i’m a moron.

I hope I never lose the ability to see just how cool a big explosion really is.

Just saying.

Tarl
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By trashing others they assert their moral and intellectual superiority.

anonymous
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I find myself in a curious position here. I went and googled the Vox Day remark that got the Professionally Offended all up in arms, the one where they say he “advocates acid attacks on women to keep marriages intact.” I figured there was no possible way that someone (even someone like Vox) would argue such a thing in all seriousness. So I looked it up, because I am not a sheep and am naturally suspicious when oh-so-tolerant liberals start bleating about someone. Huh. Turns out I was right. It is a classic example of “skim until offended.” Turns out… Read more »
David Broussard (@dbroussa)
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I have not read any of Vox Day’s books and not really read any of his blog either. I searched up the phrase you listed and it took me to a commenting site where someone had taken two points almost completely out of context and posted them and then I watched the insanity of the vitriol ensue. I would say that I was suprised, but I’m not. The internet, in its current form, is sort of a reverse sewer. Sewers take crap and pipe it away from you…the internet takes crap from all over the world and delivers it right… Read more »
Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
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Too many people do not understand debate and the simple fact that debaters often state things that they disagree with personally but can debate quite ably.

The other part is, understanding a position/background/point/etc of a theory/idea/concept/line of thought does not automatically equals agreement on the part of the person who is pondering or discussing. But most people – especially on the left – prefer to go straight with ‘EVIL! MUST DESTROY!’ the instant they’re offended. Is it any wonder it is difficult to believe the claim that they are supposedly enamoured of reason and analysis?

alukah15
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I could care less about any writers political views. If what they write is good, and entertains me I’ll read it.

Murgy
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Now, you, you stop that! Clearly, Comrade, you are not up on the latest dialectic! Only books that adhere to proper standards of PoC, non-default gender characterisms, Powerful Wymyn (cis or trans), oh, and have the EvilWhiteMale suffering a horrible fate are qualified to be published, read and award recipients! All these years later, and you still don’t understand? Apparently, we’re going to have to take away your literacy until you learn to read the correct things. Here, start on this list, while I get the Shun Bench out. Thinking you know what you like – and voting with your… Read more »
Bubbasrelm
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This last post is great if you toss a Tim Curry hunt for red october, or Dolph Lundgren rocky 4 accent on it.

Fail Burton
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The funny thing about that is that the more you can bury your message in a way that amounts to a perceptual trap that forces people to adjust their views the more successful you’ll be in changing views. You have to blind side people with perceptual shifts that force them to find empathy with a thing that in a more obvious political setting they never would. That is what old school SF classically did, and it created converts by strength of those ideas and that method, not identities. That is something the PC don’t get. It is ironically that very… Read more »
The Phantom
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True Leftists do not have views, nor values. They have two things only: hate, and tactics.

Useful Idiots on the other hand have illusions. That’s why the fiercest hawk is a Useful Idiot who’s been mugged.

baloocartoons
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I liked this comment about _Starship Troopers_:
” I thought the book had a lot of Fascist overtones, with those stepping up to social responsibility ruling over those who did not. ”

If that’s the definition of fascism, it sound like a pretty wonderful system. Right now we seem to be in the _opposite_ system.

dyingearth
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I got a feeling the guy who wrote that comment only saw the movie and not read the book.

dyingearth
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Joe in PNG
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Just read Tom Wolfe’s “Radical Chic” for the first time. Still relevant…

A Bryant
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Equality and human rights have there place and time but NOT in books!
If all books complied with equality and humans rights, then they would be the most boring drivel in the world.
I wonder about my books because the checkers keep wanting to remove Housemaid and Manservernt!

Bob
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Not necessarily. I f you didn’t have inequality and violation of human rights to churn up tension and action for you, you could try adventure, science, technological advancement, and interpersonal relationships.
Some of the best books, books I read over and over, don’t have inequality, or racism, or violation of human rights in them.

JeffWeimer
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Well Larry, I just had to buy MHI; because it seems that would piss off all the right people. Monsters and fantasy generally don’t rub my literary zones, I’m a Space Opera scifi kind of guy, but MHI was a lot of fun to read and now I’ve bought MH Vendetta because I can’t get enough of Z and the crew.

Rollicking good fun, and a poke in the eye. What’s not to love?

ThomasH
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Wait a second—-“colonialism” is a trigger now?

Someone was colonized, and it was traumatic?

pyredynasty
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I was colonized once and it was pretty traumatic. Took some wicked antibiotics to clear it up.

The Phantom
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I always thought it had something to do with the colon.

Dave W.
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Does that mean I’m going to hurt some Special Snowflake’s feelings if I dig out my old copy of Sid Meier’s Colonization and play it?

The Phantom
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Only if you dig it out of Snowflake’s colon.

Dave W.
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That’ll sure be hell on the CD. Ugh, and cleaning it!

The Phantom
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That’s what ya call “poogressive”.

Dave W.
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I see what you did there! :-p

michaelzwilliamson
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To be fair, the colonialism comment comes from a Vietnamese refugee. But I agree the concept is overused into satire at this point.

Fail Burton
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Here’s a retweet today from the lovely Kate Elliott of a Tweet by the equally lovely binary-girl, Alex MacFarlane: “Retweeted by Kate Elliott A. Dally MacFarlane ‏@foxvertebrae now A review of HERE, WE CROSS, ed. @RoseLemberg, an important collection of queer poetry: http://daniellibris.wordpress.com/2014/05/05/here-we-cross-ed-rose-lemberg/ …” Do heterosexuals ever say “here’s an important anthology by heterosexuals?” No they don’t. Are they treated as if they do? Yes they are. So, by the standards of the PC themselves, who are the bigots? BINGO! Here’s a retweet today from the president of the SFWA: “Retweeted by Ink-Stained Wretch The Clarke Award ‏@ClarkeAward 2h “Space:… Read more »
Fail Burton
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Gould should be asked to resign on the strength of that incredibly racist retweet alone.

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