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A new contest for fantasy short stories, the Baen Fantasy Awards

They just put up information about the new Baen Fantasy Awards.

This is a short story contest. All of the details are at this link: http://www.baen.com/baenfantasyaward.asp

I am one of the judges. No. Don’t try to suck up. I won’t see any of the writer’s names. πŸ™‚

What we want to see: Adventure fantasy with heroes you want to root for. Warriors either modern or medieval, who solve problems with their wits or with their sword–and we have nothing against dragons, elves, dwarves, castles under siege, urban fantasy, damsels in distress, or damsels who can’t be bothered to be distressed.

What we don’t want to see: Political drama with no action, angst-ridden teens pining over vampire lovers, religious allegory, novel segments, your gaming adventure transcript, anything set in any universe not your own, β€œit was all a dream” endings, or screenplays.

The winners will be honored at GenCon.

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T.L. Knighton
Guest

Finally! A contest where I’m actually excited about reading the winners!

tuco
Guest

So if I enter I won’t have to compete against the entire Wheel of Time series, right?

Joel Salomon
Guest

If Brandon compresses it down to 8000 words, maybe.

Jump The Shark
Guest

That would be awesome.

richard40
Guest

Ironically if the WOT author did compress it from that huge never ending series, to a 3 book trilogy, it would have been a much better book. I never bought a sci fi series before where it took so many books to provide so little permanent advancement in the charachters or the plot.

SBP
Guest

Great. I hope there’ll be an SF award, too.

rawlenyanzi
Guest

Count me in. This sounds like fun.

Alan
Guest

I was so excited about entering this contest, but then I woke up and discovered that it was all a dream….

Synova
Guest

Darn. I’ve got a really *awesome* gaming transcript.

πŸ˜‰

Bubbasrelm
Guest

WAIT!!! How am i suppose to trust a contest that doesn’t charge me 200 bucks to enter?!?!?!

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

So, two months to write something. Far from impossible. Didn’t have it on my radar, so I might not have appropriate ideas ready to go, but those are the easy part. I shall see.

Best of luck and hard work to all entrants.

Synova
Guest

One month…

Heather
Guest

Two. All of May and June. Winners announced by the end of July.

Synova
Guest

You’re right. I don’t know how I managed to not count to two. (No caffeine?)

Heather
Guest

No worries! Besides it’s always the caffeine. Too much. Too little. Blame the caffeine.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

I’ve made screw ups enough that I appreciate someone checking my work.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Hmmm. Must consult my notes . . .

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Well, according to the Usual Suspects on Twitter (Walter, Leckie, Hurley) who attempting to mock the awards with the BaenAwardStory hashtag, Baen Books promotes:

1.) Anti-vaccineism.
2.) Polygamy.
3.) Religous genocide.

I don’t think they’ve actually read anything from Baen, have they?

Me, I’m preparing my story.

SBP
Guest

It’s giving me a lot of new people to block on Twitter, for sure.

SBP
Guest

The most common hashtag actually seems to be #BaenAwardStories (plural).

SBP
Guest

Hines is suddenly worried about “good people are getting smeared by association.”

That’s what your witchburning Stalinist buddies do, Jim, and you’ve been egging them on. It’s too late now. If you try to back down you’ll be the next one they eat alive.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Oh, NOW he’s all concerned about those kind of tactics?

SBP
Guest

With the exception of Hines, most of these folks seem to be hovering around the 1 million sales rank on Amazon. One is sitting at a blazing 135,000, though.

Joel Salomon
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He said that, then decided anyone affiliated with Larry was fair game.

Fail Burton
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Hines doesn’t mind promoting the smear of 200 million Americans using demonization theories like “white privilege,” which is a theory specifically refined and promoted by morons who don’t like white heterosexual men. It’s the moral version of the Bell Curve, and surprisingly, whites, men, and heterosexuals don’t fare well when it comes to a moral I.Q. Imagine dat coincidence. If Hines and his weird cis-normative science dried up and blew away, the SFF community would be all the better for it, as his blog tends to be a central clearing house of gripe and hokum from a pack of hounds… Read more »
SBP
Guest

As expected, the Robespierre moment has arrived for Hines:

http://legionseagle.dreamwidth.org/263137.html

Joel Salomon
Guest

There also seems to be some intention of trolling the contest with their idea of what Baen might want. The place of honor for The Eye of Argon may soon be challenged.

Also, alphabetizing Marion Zimmer Bradley under β€œZ” is bad, even worse than putting Patrick or Teresa Nielsen Hayden under β€œH”.

SBP
Guest

That’s okay. I’m sure Ms Weisskopf’s computer has a functioning delete key.

Joel Salomon
Guest

But I want to read them!

dyingearth
Guest

We should encourage Andrew Marston to enter the contest. It couldn’t been worse than Naked Came I.

Joel Salomon
Guest

The al-Ghardian calumnist (not a typo) whom Larry fisked two weeks ago is already on the case.

If you really want Andrew to enter, have Vox promote the contest.

dyingearth
Guest

When has truth been any obstacle to the SJW?

Fail Burton
Guest

The PC are angry about the new SF convention for male SFF literature: CisCon. Apparently there are not enough QUILTBAG warrior women who have always fought from the statistical zero Halls of Montezuma to the invisible Shores of Tripoli.

Non-racist details are here:

http://www.prezzey.net/2014/we-need-diverse-books/

KAries
Guest

Dammit, this is going to throw my production schedule off. No help for it, though, I’ll just have to make the time for it.

MClark
Guest

Until an author signs a contract, they still own their submission, right?

mrcfodder
Guest

This sounds awesome. I’ll have to try and see if I can get something out of there. Not surprised that we’re already hearing about people bashing them.

Julie Frost (@JulieCFrost)
Guest

I am so there. Not that I have a story ready to go because everything I have of the proper length is out looking for a home right now. But I’m sure that something will either come back (unless they don’t–haha), or I can write something new tailor-made for this.

Synova
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I was joking about the gaming transcript… not joking now, though. It’s been years and years since I’ve submitted anything and I’ve never done an electronic submission so I just want to check if “standard manuscript format” is the same as ever or if it has changed? What is an RTF attachment? Is it something different than just opening your mail program and attaching a Word file? Anyhow, the last time I mailed paper “manuscript format” was: 1) double spaced 2) 12 point Courier New (or other non-proportional font) 3) one inch margins 4) “title/last name/page number” in a header,… Read more »
SBP
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RTF should be one of the options under “Save as” in Microsoft Word.

Luke
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Rich Text Format. A file type *.rtf
It’s more compact than *.doc files, keeps formatting, and doesn’t allow macros (which can be a major virus vulnerability).
It has some advantages over most other common document formats for marking up text.
It was developed by MicroSoft, so if you’re using a Word or Works variant, it should automatically be a “save as” option.

Synova
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Thanks, Luke and SBP.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

RTF is the default WordPad file. Lucky me, I’ve already switched to that for writing shorts. Thank you for the information on manuscript format.

Questions: What kind of font is Arial?

I take it that the stuff on the title page is centered?

Synova
Guest

Caution! I don’t know if what I know about manuscript format is *current*… which is why I was asking. So hopefully someone else will confirm.

SBP
Guest
Proportional means that the letter spacing is adjusted according to the characters (for instance, the letter ‘i’ will take up less space than an ‘m’ in a proportional font). In non-proportional fonts (also called monospaced), each letter is the same width. Serif and sans serif refer to those little decorative flourishes that are added to ends of the letter strokes. Serif has ’em, sans serif doesn’t. Arial is a proportional font sans-serif font. Courier New is a monospaced (non-proportional) serif font. Mac and Windows both come with Courier New, so why not give them what they ask for? It can’t… Read more »
SBP
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Whoops, misread. The contest itself isn’t asking for a specific font at all.

Fail Burton
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SBP, Baen is asking for “standard manuscript format,” which likely means they want Courier or Courier New. Synova’s info deals with the basics of the rest. Google Brad Torgersen and “standard manuscript format.” He has posts about it that also links to other stuff.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

Thanks.

Murgy
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Baen’s manuscript guidelines can be found at:
http://www.baen.com/faqs.asp#Manuscript%20Submission%20Guidelines

Near the bottom, the following can be found:

[quote]Hardcopy Submissions: (for those who cannot submit electronically)

Standard manuscript format only: double-spaced, one side of the page only, 1 1/2″ margins on all four sides of the page. We will consider photocopies if they are dark and clear.

Font must be readable, or we won’t read it. This means seriphed or at least semi-seriphed, 12-point or greater. Publisher likes CG Omega and Lucida Bright. Typesetter likes any standard bookface, Times Roman or Courier. [/quote]

I would guess that similar guidance would apply to the contest.

Synova
Guest

Thanks for the handy link. πŸ™‚

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
Guest

Thanks for asking the question I wanted to ask!

The Phantom
Guest

This sounds fun. Maybe I’ll have a go. Its Baen, so I think there should be monsters. And guns. Big f-ing guns.

I’m a shoe-in!

quantumjet2013
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Do authors retain the rights and ownership to submissions?

Quatermain
Guest

“I love that the lucky prize is that you get published. and get paid to be published. that’s…yeah I have no comment on that.”

I’m honestly at a loss as to why this is seen as somehow ‘unworthy.’ What would you rather have:

A) A plaque that says ‘Winner’ with your name and the date

B)your work published on a major publisher’s website and a check?

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Rek
Guest

They are probably realizing that winning the grand prize might not count as one of the three qualifying works for joining the SFWA.

The poor winner would be so disappointed. =)

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

You get PAID to be published? That’s horrible! πŸ˜‰

Synova
Guest

I’m pretty sure you get a plaque *and* get published and get a check.

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
Guest

Heh, according to the contest page you get ‘all of the above’ in a way:

The author will also receive an handsome engraved award

I kinda got more excited about the fact it’s a contest anyone could join. Then I got excited because I got a story plot soon after. I didn’t realize till much later you got more than just being honored at the GenCon Writer’s Symposium.

The second and third prize winners get awesome stuff too. BOOKS!

Fail Burton
Guest

“no one’s non-cis protag will be treated fairly judging by LC’s treatment of ADM (Alex Binary MacFarlane) by misgendering.” – criticism of Baen contest and Correia as a judge by one of the mad hatters of PC.

So watch your gender “P’s” and “Q’s” or whatever. Who can figure out that rat’s nest of rules?

Synova
Guest

My heroine is a lesbian. I mean, there’s no way to tell that she’s *not* a lesbian, so she may as well be one.

Sort of like Dumbledore.

Wayne Blackburn
Guest

Wait – I know what “Q”s are, but what are “P”s? And I thought “Queer” was an insult anyway? I’m confused!

πŸ˜›

undefinedscott
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Reblogged this on Undefined at its best and commented:
Reblogging for those writers out there.
I’m not sure if i’m going to enter. I don’t have anything in the works that’s really a fantasy.

SBP
Guest

OT, but funny. The impoverished heroes of the proletariat over at Making Light have taken a break from the hellish Solzhenitsynesque struggle that is their daily life (hey, Solzhenitsyn totally had a nice office in Manhattan and a Twitter account, right?) to swap arugula recipes.

Self-parody.

rek
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The criticism is so bizarre. — legionseagle ‏@legionseagle 4h @jimchines “Heroes you want to root for” vs “damsels in distress”. None of your female protags with agency, no siree! @mme_hardy —- God forbid they read the next bit, “damsels who can’t be bothered to be distressed.” Like with the 2A, these folks have always had problems with commas. — Amal El-Mohtar ‏@tithenai 12h Does anyone else think it’s hilarious that they alphabetised MZB’s name under Z so that Correia’s would be first? http://www.baen.com/baenfantasyaward.asp … — There is no winning with that. Zimmer was her maiden name, Bradley was her married… Read more »
Fail Burton
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El-Mohtar is another one who never ceases recommending books by people who are non-white or women, while acting like she lives in a culture where a white patriarchy does the same thing, which it doesn’t. Top of her Twitter feed is joking that typically stupid white racists mistake her for Saladin Ahmed, flogging the pitiful table of contents for the Women Destroy Science Fiction Kickstarter, celebrating stunning A. C. Clarke win no one expected of gender-bending Ann Leckie novel Ancillary Justice, flogging 7th century bi-sexual non-SFF novel Hild, and transgender Matrix director Lana Wachowski “incredibly moving speech.” These people never… Read more »
Danny in Canada
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Every year, I nominate stuff based on my opinion of the quality of the writing, and I don’t look at any photos of the authors beforehand. And that includes ‘Ancillary Justice’. The reason I looked at it in the first place was “oh, that sounds like a really cool idea”, and the quality of the writing convinced me that it was worth a nomination. Am I laughable? re el-Mohtar — uh, am I missing something? Are recommendations zero sum? When she recommends a leftist book, does that take a recommendation away from a better, right-wing book? Oh, and on a… Read more »
engleberg
Guest

If Baen starts a SF award, let me be the first to recommend Larry Niven and Greg Benford for Shipstar. Throbbing, rock-hard science, a Ringworld-level civilization in its prime solving problems and chasing opportunities, a space battle or two, a tastily Tuckerized Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Greg Benford’s friend Freeman Dyson giving help, enough strange alien races to provoke speciesism, mineralphages looking down on vegans for their cruelty to plants, wise old dinosaur villains in touch with their subconscious souls. And his sentences are short.

Quatermain
Guest

“You know, one of the most telling things about the Baen contest is that it IS a contest. nothing more.” What ‘more’ are they expecting, exactly?

There are also a lot of smug and knowing comments abut the ‘timing’ of the contest. Apparently that serves as proof of…something or other, I don’t know.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

If any other publisher announced this, they wouldn’t have even noticed. Only Baen gets treated like this.

Luke
Guest

Thanks for the pointer!

It’s amazing to me that the SJW are having a snit-fit over this. Sadly, I can’t say I’m surprised. But you kind of have to feel sorry for the hate-withered souls. They’re choosing to make themselves miserable.
Maybe one day, they’ll outgrow their self-loathing, and stop projecting it onto the rest of us.

John C Wright
Guest

Question about the rules?

If I have published a story only on the internet, and given it away as a free sample of my work, can I still submit it, or does that count as a ‘reprint’?

Bubbasrelm
Guest

John C Wright is thinking of entering?

Damnit, means i gotta dust of the A game to have a shot…

Was hopping to slum my way with a B-

πŸ™‚

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
Guest

Hell, I’d be honored just to compete against him! And lose!

Joel Salomon
Guest

Per the link Larry provided, email baenfantasyaward@baen.com with the keyword QUESTION in the subject line.

brianniemeier
Guest

Will you be accepting the award in person if you win?

John C Wright
Guest

Me? No. Indiana is beyond my travel distance.

jalazar88
Guest

It seems I have a story to write. Since I may be competing with the majestic and incomparable John Wright, I’ll spend the next month in seclusion at a Cistercian monastery in the Alps, there to meditate deeply upon the art and song of God, the craft of angels and skalds, before finally taking up a pen carved from the bone of a saint to ink my story from the well of my heart’s blood.

I recommend wearing gloves while you read it.

Guess
Guest
I actually lean more towards stories with anti-heroes like Joe Abercrombie writes. I also like stories with more ‘regular’ people type. Daniel Abraham got me interested in these kinds of characters. Most of us are regular people. We are interesting too. Daniel Abraham is a small time author. I highly recommend him. He makes regular guys like most of us interesting. You may know his pen name from his Expanse Sci-Fi series (James SA Corey). I have read alot of SF/F over the years and like many long time readers, I can quickly tell if I have seen something like… Read more »
Jason
Guest

Larry, I can’t wait to submit my message fic about a transgendered outcast trying to come to terms with his/her sexuality in a patriarchal hegemonic society. I think you will really love the secondary plot of the hero trying to save a rain forest from evil cisgendered industrialists trying to exploit mother earth for their own greed. Oh, and there are swords, but not too many because arms control or something. And elves (the environmentalists of course).

I’m sure you can’t wait to read it.

Guess
Guest

Jim Butcher taught a fantasy class. He told his student that ideas are cheap, the execution of the idea is what matters. He told th em that a good author can take any idea and make it a quality novel. So the student told him to write a novel about the roman empire and pokemon. This became his best seller series called the Codex Allera.

Jason the story you listed about could be done very well and be very entertaining. All ideas can be developed well. All good ideas can be developed poorly.

Minimum Wage Historian
Guest

I’m going to write about my D&D adventure where my angsty teenager character fell in love with a vampire she couldn’t be with because they’re politicians on different sides of a hotly debated bill that’s really an allegory for the Parable of the three servants in the World of Warcraft verse but then my character wakes up at the end and realizes it was all just a dream.

But really, I actually have an idea for this one! I will start writing today!

ravenshrike
Guest

Hey now, if it ends with a zombie Iceman Kulinski killing said character it might not be that bad.

SirShadesDrake
Guest

This might just be the excuse I needed to try writing again…

John C Wright
Guest

“Since I may be competing with the majestic and incomparable John Wright”

Wow! That sounds like a great guy. And with the same first and last name as me! Please introduce me to him. The only John Wright I know is an overweight goof with an outrageous white beard like a silent explosion of frightened hair, who wears a black hat and a trenchcoat like some comic opera villain, and carries a swordcane, and he grimaces and sneers and hollers at Yankees and scalawags and fawns on his wife. Think of Brian Blessed, but louder.

Quatermain
Guest

That doesn’t sound majestic and incomparable’ but he still sounds like a pretty alright kinda guy. I’ve been wearing a trenchcoat myself lately because St. Paul has replaced never ending snow with never ending rain.

John C Wright
Guest

Do you mean St Paul the city or St Paul the saint? Is he the patron saint in charge of sending never ending rain? I thought that was St Barbara. St Paul is the patron of tentmakers.

Dave W.
Guest

Swordcanes and trenchcoats add at LEAST 10 Cool Points. Right up there with fezzes and bowties. πŸ™‚

John C Wright
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Ah, my friend, I think you are confusing ‘pompous’ with ‘cool’. Cool is something our friend the Doctor has in copious amounts. Pompous is something I have. It is not a good thing, but it makes small children laugh. (So let me add up my character sheet. Negative 350 points for general wrightishness, another negative 50 not being able to add, another 20 for being a lawyer, 100 for being a jackass atheist, another 100 for being a jackass Catholic, minus 10 more for having two mutually exclusive and contradictory dis-ads, plus 4 for having Aunt May as a dependent… Read more »
Wayne Blackburn
Guest

See, you just proved their point with that comment. Sheesh. πŸ™‚

John C Wright
Guest

Excellent! If they are cowed, and flee from the contest with eccentric jerks of their elbows and knees, whimpering, my chances of victory increase by a microscopic but real percentage!

Shadowdancer Duskstar / Cutelildrow
Guest

I dunno, but you sound like a pretty cool word-wizard to me with that description…

jalazar88
Guest

I think he keeps a blog. . .the URL is something like syfywright.com. I believe he also sports a beard (the coincidences mount!) which makes my clean-shaven chin prickle with envy.

Jump The Shark
Guest

Aww… I was going to own this contest. I forget that there are ‘people’ with ‘talent’ and ‘skill’ who are going to ‘pwn’ me.

Oh well. If I can muscle my way up to third place, I can maybe score the other two Grimnoire novels…

Albert
Guest

Keep in mind that the consolation prize for ‘almost, but not quite, good enough to win’ is that Toni(Long May She Publish!) just took notice of you.

Jump The Shark
Guest

Reblogged this on Ad Faciem and commented:
So, a ton of blogs and reblogs in one day. If you write fantasy, you should enter this.

AJ VanOrden
Guest

I’m in. I’ve had a short I’ve been polishing for a while for something like this.

James May
Guest
Plot: PoC Little Rainbow Riding Hood with goggles and a limp who also suffers from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome scouring the Straight White Forest with a giant sentient sword named “Privilege” and a steampunk flamethrower looking for colonialist wolf puppies in their dens like the Marines on Iwo Jima. “My, what a big cave you have – need a light motherf**kers? Woooossh!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Historically inaccurate retro/preemptive payback’s a bitch with goggles and her faithful non-cishet sword ‘Privilege’!” declares Little Rainbow Riding Hood who then mounts her sword and after two hours they leave and ride into town for some unsweetened organic… Read more »
Dr. Mauser
Guest

argh! You said “Normal” in your trigger warning! I needed a trigger warning for that word! you should have said “Cis”.

Oh, but Cis MEANS Normal, I think I need a trigger warning for that too before I melt into a puddle of emotionally-harmed human wreckage.

James May
Guest

Yeah. Cue Mr. Standlee. The fact that guy and his clownish views about Cis-King Kong was once associated with the Hugos tells you why the Hugos have taken a self-dump into trigger warning-city.

NOoooooooo!!! Not a television comedian!!! Stand back – back I say!! Ohhhhhhhhh why-oh-why-oh-why. I thought I was safe and that people liked my enormous cis-carcass and bi-cis-bi-cis-normative fiction about cis-blimps and morlock cis peeeoooople. Hisssssssssssssss!!!!

Dan Lane
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This is going to be an awesome contest. Can’t wait to read the winners. The way the guidelines look, it just has to be adventure, heroism, and fantasy (of course, also has to be a good story). So anti-heroes work, non-human heroes are fine, whatever tells a good story. Bonus points if it makes the reader want to get up our of his chair and cheer. Triple bonus points if he actually does it when he reads it the first time in public and gets all sorts of weird looks for saying “F*ck yeah!” in some random place. I’d read… Read more »
Dr. Mauser
Guest

On one hand, this is very tempting, but on the other, I haven’t tried to write Fantasy since the late 80’s.

Dr. Mauser
Guest

And here I am, 1000 words in.

richard40
Guest

In addition to the other things you specified you did not want, you also should have mentioned not wanting something that could have been a Halequin Romance if you take out the swords and the elves.

richard40
Guest

You also might want to ban stories supporting the glories of socialism and central planning.

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