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An explanation about the Hugo awards controversy

A few days ago the finalists for the Hugo were announced. The Hugos are the big prestigious award for science fiction and fantasy. One of my books was a finalist for best novel. A bunch of other works that I recommended showed up in other categories. Because I’m an outspoken right winger, hilarity ensued.

Many of you have never heard of me before, but the internet was quick to explain to you what a horrible person I am. There have been allegations of fraud, vote buying, log rolling, and making up fake accounts. The character assassination has started as well, and my detractors posted and tweeted and told anyone who would listen about how I was a racist, a homophobe, a misogynist, a rape apologist, an angry white man, a religious fanatic, and how I wanted to drag homosexuals to death behind my pickup truck.

The libel and slander over the last few days have been so ridiculous that my wife was contacted by people she hasn’t talked to for years, concerned that she was married to such a horrible, awful, hateful, bad person, and that they were worried for her safety.

I wish I was exaggerating. Don’t take my word for it. My readers have been collecting a lot of them in the comments of the previous Hugo post and on my Facebook page. Plug my name into Google for the last few days. Make sure to read the comments to the various articles too. They’re fantastic.

Of course, none of this stuff is true, but it was expected. I knew if I succeeded I would be attacked. To the perpetually outraged the truth doesn’t matter, just feelings and narrative. I’d actually like to thank all of those people making stuff up about me because they are proving the point I was trying to make to begin with.

Allow me to explain why the presence of my slate on the Hugo nominations is so controversial. This is complicated and your time is valuable, so short explanation first, longer explanation if you care after.

Short Version:

  1. I said a chunk of the Hugo voters are biased toward the left, and put the author’s politics far ahead of the quality of the work. Those openly on the right are sabotaged. This was denied.
  2. So I got some right wingers on the ballot.
  3. The biased voters immediately got all outraged and mobilized to do exactly what I said they’d do.
  4. Point made.

I’ve said for a long time that the awards are biased against authors because of their personal beliefs. Authors can either cheer lead for left wing causes, or they can keep their mouth shut. Open disagreement is not tolerated and will result in being sabotaged and slandered. Message or identity politics has become far more important than entertainment or quality. I was attacked for saying this. I knew that when an admitted right winger got in they would be maligned and politicked against, not for the quality of their art but rather for their unacceptable beliefs.

If one of us outspoken types got nominated, the inevitable backlash, outrage, and plans for their sabotage would be very visible. So I decided to prove this bias and launched a campaign I called Sad Puppies (because boring message fiction is the leading cause of Puppy Related Sadness).

The Hugos are supposed to be about honoring the best works, and many of the voters still take this responsibility very seriously. I thank them for this. But basically the Hugos are a popularity contest decided by the attendees of WorldCon. I am a popular writer, however my fans aren’t typical WorldCon attendees. Anyone who pays to purchase a WorldCon membership is allowed to vote. Other writers, bloggers, and even publishing houses have encouraged their fans to get involved in the nomination process before. I simply did the same thing. This controversy arises only because my fans are the wrong kind of fans.

For the people saying that I bought votes, or made up fake people, or bought memberships for a couple hundred imaginary relatives, nope. For those saying I committed fraud, put up or shut up. That would be extremely easy to prove if it were the case. I’ve been up front and public the whole time. Sadly, the thing which has so damaged your calm consisted of a few blog posts and I drew a cartoon. And I’m a terrible artist: http://monsterhunternation.com/2014/01/14/sad-puppies-2-the-illustrated-edition/

Eventually one of my friends colored the cartoon in PhotoShop and one of my fans thought it was funny and made a video. Sorry, outrage crowd. No big evil conspiracy. An evil right winger is treading in your sacred halls because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzGKlOkQsxY

I mean, seriously, my spokesman was a manatee. No. I’m not making that up. So Sad Puppies 2: Rainbow Puppy Lighthouse The Huggening got my fans involved. Really, that was what we called it. Because writing is such a serious business.

Even last year’s winner, John Scalzi, has said that I did nothing different than what he and other authors have done before. And Scalzi and I seldom agree on anything. Tor.com wrote a scathing bit condemning my actions (and implied what a horrid writer I am). Of course, the very same website did the exact same thing explaining to Wheel of Time fans how the rules allowed them to nominate all 14 books as a single work and encouraged them to get involved. And a cursory Google search by my fans found dozens of other places where authors, reviewers, and bloggers had pushed their favorite works and tried to get fans involved.

We always hear about how fandom is supposed to be inclusive… Only apparently my fans are the wrong kind of fans. They don’t care about the liberal cause of the day. They don’t care about Social Justice. They like their books entertaining rather than preachy. They probably vote incorrectly. That sort of thing.

The last few days have been kind of awesome. I said that for the Hugo’s the writer’s politics were more important than the quality of their work. I was called a liar. Yet, within a couple of hours of the announcement there were multiple posts from the other side where groups of SJWs were strategizing how to make sure No Award beat me, and how to punish every other artist I recommended as well. Others were complaining that the rules needed to be changed to keep the undesirables out. All of this was while they proudly bragged how they had not read me, nor ever would… because tolerance. Hell if I know.

For those who have heard that I’m a terrible, undeserving writer whose mere presence is a mockery of their sacred system, but haven’t read any of my books, I’m actually pretty decent. Feel free to judge for yourself. For the record, my novel that is nominated, Warbound, is the final book in a trilogy that has sold extremely well, been translated into a bunch of other languages where it has also done well, gotten tons of positive reviews (out of the thousands of reviews for this series from across all the various different places I’m still at 4 ½ stars) won and been nominated for other awards, is one of the bestselling and most praised audiobook series there is, has won two Audies, is currently nominated for a third, and been a finalist for best novel in other countries where I don’t speak the language and can’t campaign, so there is that…

But everybody knows bad people can’t create art, says the side that keeps showering Roman Polanski with awards.

In closing, I would really like everybody who is a voting member of WorldCon to actually read the works in each category and vote based upon which ones they think are best. I fully expect Wheel of Time to win my category of best novel. It is a fourteen book epic written by two authors over twenty six years. Duh.

Personally, my goal has been reached. I got the thought police to show the world their pretty pink panties. :)

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Long Version:

Now here are the behind the scenes details for whoever wants the whole story.

Bias and Motivation: In this business, most writers who are conservative, republican, libertarian, or devoutly religious have needed to keep their head down so as to not rock the boat and damage their careers. This damage comes from two directions, the publishing industry which is based in Manhattan and which is uniformly left wing, which will hurt careers out of spite, and also from the small, but extremely vocal left wing fans who swoop in to crush all dissent. I like to call them the Social Justice Warriors.

If right wing authors share their opinions, they will be openly chastised and attacked by very vocal, very angry people. Any deviation from the approved narrative is met with scorn, mockery, character assassination, and because the author doesn’t want to damage his career, he will usually fall back into line and shut his mouth. Basically if you step out, they form an angry mob and attack you until you roll over and apologize for something that shouldn’t be apologized for. Once you’re apologizing for your principles, they own you. They really don’t know what to do about people like me.

This squashing worked for them for years, which helped establish this vision that genre fic, much like Hollywood and the rest of media, was monolithically left. In reality people like me sell a ton of books. SJWs became a powerful voting block for the Hugo’s and pushed their favorite topic of the day as the best works. Many regular readers became turned off or annoyed. Genre fiction fans are as diverse as the rest of the country. As time has gone on, more and more of us creators have gotten pissed off and started being open about our beliefs. I sold machineguns and did gun rights lobbying before I got my first book published, so being in the closet about my politics was never an option for me.

My first realization about how messed up this system was dates back to when I was first starting out. One of the smaller voting blocks at WorldCon is made up of Baen fans. They got me a nomination for the Campbell award for best new author. I was brand new, hardly anybody except for them had heard of me. No problem… Except then people looked to see who these new guys were, and they discovered that I was a Mormon, who owned a gun store, and who’d done gun rights lobbying for the Republican party, and had been running a gun nut political blog for years… Whoops. The SJWs had a complete come apart and began warning each other what a terrible, awful, horrible, bad person I was. (most of them were downright gleeful to proclaim they would never read any books from someone so despicable). A reviewer declared that Larry Correia winning the Campbell would “end literature forever”. They hadn’t read my book. The funny thing is that I was actually much more polite to my detractors on the internet back then. Within 24 hours of the announcement I knew that I would be dead last. People who believed this stuff physically avoided me at WorldCon because they’d been told how I was unsafe.

But there is no bias.

After that I got back to the business of writing books. I’ve published ten more since then. I probably would have been content to ignore awards and just keep on cashing my royalty checks, but the SJWs had to just keep on annoying me, by mocking and insulting me and my friends. A writer can only be told they’re not a *real* writer (because of their badthink) so many times before we say screw it and hoist the black flag. If you’re curious how come my fans ponied up perfectly good money to get involved, it is because they’ve been watching this transpire in the comments here, on my FB page, and on Twitter for several years. They felt invested.

This SJW angry mob inquisition has been a gradual and relatively recent development in our culture, mostly as a result of the anonymous and instant internet. It isn’t just for writers, but the demand for a rigid conformity which is expected from the entire entertainment industry. There are many on the left who cannot tolerate opposing viewpoints or philosophies, so when they arise, they must be stomped down. Any deviation from conformity is met with immediate outrage. They have been doing it to people on my side for so long that it is simply expected by us. We are used to it.

However, it comes as a shock to reasonable people on the left when so emboldened the SJWs begin to do the same thing to people on their own side. Stephen Colbert says something they don’t like. Outrage. Patton Oswalt simply agrees with someone on my side. Outrage. Jonathan Ross might say something in the future. Outrage. Patrick Rothfuss says maybe fandom shouldn’t be so quick to outrage. Outrage. Wil Wheaton simply retweets Rothfuss. Outrage. So on and so forth. It doesn’t even matter that all of these people are staunch allies of the outrage crowd, the mob has been programmed to attack, so they do.

Responding to the insults: I wasn’t joking about Google searching my name and reading the comments. Holy moly, it really is enlightening what we’re dealing with here.

First off, I know it doesn’t matter what I say here, because we’ve already seen hundreds of time that they’ll ignore my actual words and just make up new ones for me.

The thing is everybody who knows me knows that I’m actually a nice guy and all that stuff is a bunch of crap. Yes, I am extremely rude to people who attack me on the internet. It saves us all time that way. Six years of this has worn away my thin veneer of civility. Don’t show up, call me a racist teabagger, and then expect reasoned discourse. We all know where we are going to end up eventually, so why not skip all that passive aggressive foreplay and get down to where we’re going to end up anyway, with you making up stuff, and me kicking your ass.

Many of my writer friends who’ve had the option of keeping their heads down and their beliefs secret think that I’m crazy to be so public. I have a response ready for them, I usually pick out whatever topic it is that I know they personally feel very strongly about, but which goes against the accepted group think of the Social Justice Warriors and ask them to go write a blog post sharing their honest beliefs, and then see what happens. Of course, none of them ever take me up on it, because they know that the caring and tolerant crowd would immediately and blindly lash out.

The funny thing about the misogyny, racism, and homophobic allegations, is that I was a self-defense instructor for the better part of a decade and certified literally thousands of people to carry concealed firearms. I taught women, minorities, homosexuals, didn’t matter, often on my own dime, all because I think people who would try to drag anyone to death behind a pickup truck will have a difficult time doing so after they have a pair of hollow points placed into their chest cavity at high speed. Unlike the SJWs, I don’t just pay lip service to empowerment.

Since I’m a prolific political blogger, with thousands of posts to pick through, you’d think these people would have some actual example of where I’d been racist, homophobic, or misogynist, but they don’t. Go figure. In reality, all of us right wingers simply know that the outrage crowd attacking us is so boringly predictable that we have a checklist ready to go for them: http://monsterhunternation.com/2013/09/20/the-internet-arguing-checklist/

Politically, I’m more of a libertarian than anything. Of all the things I’ve been called over the last few days, the most hurtful thing said was that I was a NeoCon who believed in big government welfare (that’s a bit more offensive than the woman who insinuated I’m a wife beater). If they’re looking for homophobia on my blog, they’re always sad when they discover that I’m not against gay marriage, mostly because I’m far more frightened of the overreaching federal government telling people what to do than I am of gay cooties. The angry privileged white man bit is kind of funny since legally I’m not white and I grew up in a poor immigrant community. But facts should never get in the way of a good narrative.

It is kind of sad that some republicans getting nominated is far more controversial than actual communists and socialists winning. Last time I looked those particular philosophies had killed over a hundred million people over the last hundred years, but there’s absolutely no bias in the awards…
Allegations of fraud: I also had another goal, which I never shared publically during my campaigning. I had heard many allegations of fraud in the nomination process from other authors. Tossed votes, far lower than expected counts, that sort of thing. I am a full time author now, but I am a retired auditor. I love looking for fraud. I do spreadsheets and statistical analysis for fun. So I wanted to see if votes were being tossed. When Sad Puppies 1 launched I kept track of who said they were voting, kept a tally, and then kept their emails so if necessary I could ask for their registration receipts. My suggested slate in other categories would help provide check figures in the smaller categories. (But for the record, everything I suggested was something that I read, enjoyed, and thought was of superior quality and deserving of an award).

The final numbers for last year were within the expected deviation. No red flags. LonCon has struck me as perfectly honest in my dealings with them. So I’m happy to say that I see no evidence of dishonesty in the nominating process. That is excellent.

So me being accused of making up fake voters is kind of funny since you can go through my blog and Facebook comments and see all the real live genre fiction fans I’ve been collecting.

Applying a little critical thinking to this (something Social Justice Warriors struggle with) I’m a popular author. I have more daily blog readers than the total attendance of WorldCon. And not only that, my fans aren’t casual, they are hardcore. I just did a Kickstarter and sold over a hundred thousand dollars worth of merchandise related to one of my book series. (still waiting on those last 70 coins, dang it, stupid broken molds!). That’s not a typo, over $100,000 of merchandise on one project in a month… My last Kickstarter before that did $85,000. So what’s more likely, my fans are hard core and have enough disposal income to drop $40 to make a point to an annoying group of people who despises my fans, or that I spent thousands of dollars of my own money to make up imaginary relatives?

Please, keep in mind, my fan base is the same group that routinely is able to sway the entire ranking system of the biggest online book retailer in the world. Once a month, I pick a book, Book Bomb it, and my fans move it onto the Amazon bestseller lists. I’d say that the evidence suggests that A. I’ve got fans. B. They like books. C. Many of them have money.

I find it fascinating that many people on the left end of the spectrum actually believe that their beliefs are the norm among genre fiction readers. They’ve created an echo chamber to validate each other. They’ve taken over SFWA and dominate the conversation there. They’re right and good and any who disagree are evil and bad. They formed a powerful voting block in the most prestigious awards and once a year they could reinforce just how brilliant and important they are by nominating their friends to the various categories. In the last Sad Puppies post’s comments my fans collected a whole bunch of the SJW’s tweets demonstrating this mindset, where conservatives are these anti-science flyover country barbarians who are dying off… Yet, they’re totally oblivious to the fact that guys like me sell a lot of books because there is a big market out there who is tired of being preached at about the SJW cause of the day, and just wants to enjoy their fiction again. They can’t wrap their brains around the fact that people like me are more popular than they are out in the world.

Storytellers win where it counts, BOOK SALES. The SJW contingent wins awards. If the barbarians start taking awards from them they’ll have nothing left.

No wonder they are so angry.

EDIT:  I must add the best new bit of character assassination… Larry Correia’s Sad Puppies was where he threatened to kill puppies if his fans didn’t vote. :D

 

The Controversial Slate: For the record, I’m only the second most hated man who got a nomination. The most despised is Vox Day by far, however, I’m the one who suggested him to my fans who were participating in Sad Puppies 2. So if he’s their devil, I’m the antichrist.

Let’s back up. The reason Vox is so hated is that he is the only person ever kicked out of SFWA. He makes me look cuddly and diplomatic. He was expelled from SFWA because the powers that be decided he was a racist, in fact, it was so obvious that he was racist that it only took a thirty page thesis explaining how stuff he said was actually racist, including the leadership of SFWA searching through the vile cesspool that is Stormfront until they found some nazi skin head who used similar words, and then holding him accountable for things that posters said in his blog comments (us right wing bloggers don’t believe in censorship so we don’t “manage” or “massage” our comments like they do) then they kicked him out for misusing their Twitter account.

Basically, he called Nora Jesmin an “ignorant half-savage” and that pissed everybody off. See, Nora, is a beloved libprog activist and Social Justice Warrior, and all the reports of her victimization at the hands of the villainous Vox usually leave out the parts where she’d been hurling personal insults at him for years. Myself? I thought that comment might be a bit over the line, but then again, Google search my name and see what the SJW’s have been calling me for the last few days. It is way worse that ignorant or savage, and I think I’m darker skinned than K. Tempest Bradford. I’ve yet to see any SJWs condemning those comments about me. Tolerance is a one way street with them.

I didn’t really know the guy that well before he started pissing so many people off, but having been character assassinated myself, I’ve learned never to take the internet’s word about somebody’s character. Having actually talked with, and then gotten into long arguments and debates with Vox, he is a contrarian, can be a jerk is extremely opinionated, but I honestly don’t think he’s a racist (He’s also not a white guy, but most of the people attacking him don’t know that). We’ve had some long, heated debates on different subjects now, but since I’m not a panty twisted liberal, I can handle differing beliefs.

We disagree about a lot. I disagree with him on some fundamental philosophy. His “rabid hateful” views on homosexuality match about a third of America, most staunch Catholics, and he’s far more moderate on the issue than any devout Muslim or average European villager. So I disagree with him, but he’s not the out there whackadoo his detractors make him out to be, but then again, these same people say I want to drag gays to death behind my truck, so take the hate with a grain of salt. He thinks I’m nuts on several topics, but the dude is smart, and he can write. As for the people saying he “bought” the awards… Holy moly, you’ve got no idea what his day job is. If the man wanted to simply buy votes, he’d be up for everything from Best Novel to Motor Trend Car of the Year.

So when I was putting together my slate and looking for ideas, I remembered his novelette that I read earlier that year. I was surprised by how good it was. I found it to be a really good story (it is actually about love and friendship, with a moral philosophy based on Thomas Aquinas, so not really what you’d expect from such a supposed hatemonger of hatey-hate). I plugged it to my fans earlier this year, which meant that a lot of them had read it as well. To be fair, it was only my second favorite work I read of that size this year, but that’s a tough one because I believe that Brad Torgersen is the best new sci-fi writer around. So I threw them both on the slate.

Yes, I will totally admit that I knew this would spur additional outrage. And oh, how I was proven right. His existence offends them. They aren’t going to read his work. They’re proud to admit it. In the spirit of the awards, a certain Tor editor—who has no problem marching with communists—is pushing for everyone to automatically vote No Award over Vox. Stay classy, noble Social Justice Warrior, but once again, there’s no bias.

The thing is, even if what these people say about Vox is true,(and I personally think it is as grossly exaggerated as anything else these people decide to attack) what they’re declaring is that assholes can’t make good art… Well, the entire history of art would like to disagree with you. Truly brilliant works of art have been created by people who are bat shit crazy. So now that it is nominated, how about you goose stepping morons try reading books instead of burning them?

The SJW contingent isn’t just outraged that these vile hatemongers are on there, but since I’m popular and I riled up a whole bunch of normally uninvolved fans, most of the stuff I suggested also wound up on there too. My other nomination for best novel was for Sarah Hoyt’s (a Latino immigrant woman) story with a gay male as its main PoV character and hero… It checks all their boxes! Oh, but wait… Sarah’s a libertarian and I only nominated A Few Good Men because it was a really good book and not for social justice. Only not as many of my fans had read that one yet, so it didn’t make the list. So much for that monolithic group think thing we’re supposed to have going on over here.

Normally, media tie in fiction, as in books relating to games, movies, etc. is considered contemptible by the WorldCon voters. Tie in writers are looked down on and sneered at by the literati. You’ve got writers who’ve written hundreds of books, like Anderson, Stackpole, or Zahn, with some of them being brilliant, but it would be a cold day in hell before some media tie in fiction got any respect at WorldCon. In any normal year a work of tie in fiction getting a nomination would be extremely controversial. This year it doesn’t even make a blip on the radar.

Peter David writes Star Trek novels, comic books, and other things. I saw a post from him lamenting how sad it was that a racist got on the ballot but tie in fiction can’t… Little did he realize that my slate pushed the excellent Butcher of Khardov by Dan Wells, which is Warmachine tie in fiction, and got it a nomination for Best Novella. As far as I’m aware, in the history of the Hugos this has never happened before… So you’re welcome, Peter. My “wrong kind of fans” broke new ground for you on the very same slate.

It has made me sad to see Dan Wells getting caught up in their hate. Dan is one of the nicest people I’ve ever met, and he’s a political moderate. I nominated Butcher because it is excellent. It is a story about a homicidal maniac that made me tear up at the end. And now the same people who despise me without having ever read my fiction are conspiring against this brilliant, creative, artist simply for the crime of being recommended by a bad person like me.

But there’s no bias…

I thought it was interesting that the Fanzine category, which is normally dominated by the same handful of groups year after year, taking turns giving each other the Hugo, is actually totally shaken up this year with new nominees… Because last year I demonstrated what happened when a creator simply asked their fans to get involved, so people did. And those little categories can be swayed by a couple dozen votes. Of course, those old Fanzines with their closets full of Hugos simply love me now. :)

Toni Weisskopf is one of the most successful and prolific editors in publishing. She’s edited some of the most successful authors in genre fiction, discovered tons of new talent, and runs one of the biggest sci-fi publishing houses in the country… Everybody in the industry knows Toni. The woman is brilliant. Yet did you know that she’d never gotten a Hugo nomination until I launched Sad Puppies? Back during Sad Puppies, some Fanzine (that had like 30 Hugo nominations) was offended by the uncouth barbarity of me asking my people (the wrong kind of fans) to get involved, but even they had to admit that Toni Weisskopf deserved a Hugo.

Meanwhile, the Tor editor who is cool with his followers organizing to vote No Award against the barbaric interlopers? Ten nominations. But there is absolutely no bias in the awards.

I actually got Marko Kloos nominated for the Campbell as well, but it turned out he had his first pro sale in 2011 so he was ineligible. I nominated him because Terms of Enlistment was a really good debut novel. So of my slate, I only missed a single category.

And as they scream and rail against me, this is what my fans accomplished while mildly amused and a little annoyed. Keep attacking us with crazy accusations and maybe I’ll do this again next year, only with more manatees.

 

Actually reading the books. Crazy idea, I know. The people warning others not to read the nominated works because of badthink. Good. They’re simply demonstrating that they are the small minded, bigoted, control freak, censorship loving, statists I accused them of being.

Now for everybody else who isn’t a jerk, I would encourage you to read the works for yourself and rank them accordingly.

Brandon Sanderson posted about this. Most of the WorldCon voters really want the Hugo to be about quality and art more than politics, and they take their voting very seriously. I agree with him. His fans are being attacked in some quarters as well because they are outsiders. I thought his response to this was very well reasoned. Brandon is a class act. I look forward to his inevitable mud stomping of me and the other competitors.

I actually had a Stross novel on my nightstand to be read when the announcements were made. I’ve read Mira Grant and think she’s a solid writer. I’d encourage anybody who signed up because of Sad Puppies to read and vote based upon the quality of the work.

Tor owes me. Now, in any normal year, the entire fourteen book series of the Wheel of Time, written over 26 years, by two different authors being nominated as “best novel” would be by far the most controversial thing about the Hugos. Instead most of the outragers are spending their energy praying Vox gets cancer.

You are welcome, Tor. Now please go down to Tor.com and tell some of your idiot bloggers to at least try and get their facts straight before they make shit up about me. And to that one junior editor who supposedly could only make it through the first 20 pages of Hard Magic, part of being an editor is finding sellable talent, and I’ve sold the hell out of this series in multiple countries now, so you must really suck at your job.

The rules allow WoT to be considered a novel, so it is there. I’d ask readers to judge the works accordingly. If you love the WoT, vote for it. But please, actually read some of it and don’t vote for it simply because Rand was awesome when you were in middle school. It is bad enough to be outnumbered 27 pages to one, but none of us can compete with 12 year old you’s nostalgia.

That said, my money is on Brandon. :)

The Actual Awards. To the morons who keep talking about how they wouldn’t “feel safe” if I attended WorldCon, you may untwist your panties. I’m not going. That’s the same weekend as GenCon, which is actually fun (and has an excellent writing track by the way). If I’m going to go all the way to England, it is going to be to play tourist around a beautiful country, not sit around being lectured on the dangers of cismale gendernormative fascism and neocolonial patriarchy.

And seriously, when you “feel unsafe” in real life you usually end up calling somebody like my average fan to come save you, so quit the drama queen act. It is annoying as hell.

I don’t expect to win anything, and don’t really care. I got my trophy as soon as the Social Justice Warrior contingent demonstrated to the world that they’re a bunch of hypocritical little fascists.

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980 Comments on "An explanation about the Hugo awards controversy"


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1 year 1 month ago

bravo. well said

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Aaron Mishler
1 year 1 month ago

Double bravo!

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Surfacedog
1 month 19 days ago

Dang…

I just recently started reading your books (Monster Hunter Intl) and had no idea of your political viewpoint. Having read up on this ‘controversy’ and your incredibly literate column above, I think I’m going to part with some more of my hard-earned cash and read more of you. And the authors you’ve recommended.

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Jonny Primrose
1 month 11 days ago

Congrats to everyone involved both left and right for being complete babies And injecting politics into a place it has no place being. Can you nut jobs (both Left & Right) sling mud in some other part of town ,

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Arik
1 month 10 days ago

I have come to this controversy late. All the comments I have read have been bashing the left and so called social justice warriors. Can any one provide links to sites from the left that demonstrate they were backing slates or bashing writers based on ideology. I figure I am only seeing half the story but in really don’t like the half I am seeing. Who do people classify as SJW anyway.

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1 year 1 month ago

” To the morons who keep talking about how they wouldn’t “feel safe” if I attended WorldCon, you may untwist your panties. I’m not going. ”

OK, but do go next year and invite the true hardcore MHI fans to the shindig. We will dress up like we were going to a Monster Hunter convention in Vegas.

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1 year 1 month ago

I would absolutely be down for that. Perhaps we should do something visibly hateful, like wear T-Shirts that were sold where most of the proceeds went to the wounded warrior project or something similar.

You know, just another pebble for their shoes.

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Jeff Gauch
1 year 1 month ago

I want to see T-shirts with “International Minion of Hate” on the front and a cartoon of a cowering snowflake about to be destroyed by a huge dude (or a – ahem – buoyant woman) with a massive flame-thrower.

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carbonel
1 year 28 days ago

How about “International Minions of Hate” over the picture of a cute puppy with “saving the world from puppy related sadness since 2013″

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1 year 28 days ago

Wounded Warrior charity is a scam. 60% goes to administrative costs, a lot goes to running adds, and the money left over for charity s donated to other charities which then take their administrative and advertising cuts.

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CiceroTheLatest
1 year 28 days ago

According to the Better Business Bureau, Wounded Warrior Project financial information for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2011:

Uses of Funds as a % of Total Expenses

Programs: 83% Fund Raising: 13% Administrative: 4%

Total income $123,869,345

Program expenses $89,466,336
Fund raising expenses 13,883,984
Administrative expenses 4,727,106
Total expenses $108,077,426

Income in Excess of Expenses 15,791,919
Beginning net assets 14,565,525
Ending net assets 30,357,444
Total liabilities 6,035,145
Total assets $36,392,589

Programs:

Alumni association 19,367,642
Soldier ride 14,707,505
Combat stress recovery 13,770,349
Family support services 8,676,894
Physical health and rehabilitation 6,743,782
Benefits service 6,016,023
TRACK 4,447,842
Warriors to work 4,180,581
WWP packs 2,871,334
International support 2,761,447
Warriors speak 1,853,265
Transition training academy 1,780,277
Peer mentoring 1,233,197
Campus services 1,056,198
Total Program Expenses: $89,466,336

For everyone’s future reference, the BBB charity ratings are extremely useful in discovering what is an ethical charity and what’s a scam. WWP ranks pretty high.

(Hope the spacing holds up after I post.)

Guest
1 year 28 days ago

I use Charity Navigator for that. They have the ’12 fiscal year report up for the Wounded Warrior Project.

Program Expenses – 57.9%
Administrative Expenses 5.6%
Fundraising Expenses 36.3%
Fundraising Efficiency $0.23
Primary Revenue Growth 78.6%
Program Expenses Growth 62.9%
Working Capital Ratio (years) 0.93

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Book
1 year 1 month ago

OMG that would be AWESOME. I’m totally dressing up like a “sexy” internet troll. :D

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Etaoin Shrdlu
1 year 29 days ago

>sexy internet troll
So, something like Oderus Urungus, but with less codpiece and more exposure?

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Wes S.
1 year 28 days ago

“Sexy internet troll.” I’m now having visions of Melvin the Troll from MHI wearing lingerie. Eek. I did not need that.

*shudders*

Guest
1 year 28 days ago

I would just like to say, that MHI is now to blame for far to many ‘Internet Troll’ appearances in my Shadowrun games. Damn you!

:)

I’m fairly sure ‘Internet Troll webcam’ will break every players head.

muwahaha.

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Thomas Monaghan
1 year 1 month ago

Well since Worldcon is in Spokane next year there’s no excuse for missing it!!

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perlhaqr
1 year 1 month ago

Oh yeah? *starts planning the road trip*

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junior
1 year 1 month ago

Really? I served my mission up there. Not sure this is a good time for me to go back, though.

On another note, Larry should let it be known that he’s attending the next one. It would probably keep some of the SJW crowd from attending (given how the guy is a ticking time bomb and all *cough* ), which would further depress the votes for their “message before enjoyment” tomes.

:P

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William O. B'Livion
1 year 1 month ago

Washington is a fairly “free” state when it comes to firearms.

I’d imagine a large influx of Monster Hunter types would have enough hardware to suppress any problems that would arise.

Safest WorldCon *EVER*.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Think of it: Hundreds of MHN members, wandering the Worldcon. Each their very own walking “trigger warning”.

I see SJWs vaporlocking left and right.. . .

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Bruce
1 year 1 month ago

Hmmm…I have relatives in Spokane – one of which was an Olympic track & field coach and “got” to meet Putin at the Moscow Olympics when Vlad was a young KGB agent.

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bearcat
1 year 1 month ago

Hour and a half from my house, might have to be the first con I ever attend. :)

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

I know you’ve given up on the idea of winning. But wouldn’t it be amazinng if you did?

Honestly, every author who gets any amount of success usually earns himself a few jealous enemies. Anyone nominated for any prestigious award has people who resent him. But you have gotten the brunt of something bigger than that. For some reason, it’s as though a law was passed exempting you from legal protections against slander and hate.

I’ve got to say I’m seeing real proof of liberal bias in the publishing community, and I wish more people would speak up about it.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

There’s a point in that. If you’re feeling really vindictive, Larry, you might want to talk to a lawyer–some of the stuff directed at you might rise to the level of being actionable.

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RightWingProf
1 year 1 month ago

Keep twisting panties, Larry. You seem to be ticking off all the reight people.

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Vidad
1 year 1 month ago

“You seem to be ticking off all the reight people.”

I think you meant to type “reich” people. (snicker)

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Leatherwing
1 year 1 month ago

I was reading through this blog post http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/015838.html
(where many are planning how they will respond to both the sad puppy slate and the Wheel of Time nomination)
and saw this interesting rule brought up

* That voting behavior may result in a situation where a number of the down-ballot races fall afoul of Section 3.11.2 of the WSFS Constitution, which says that no award will be given in a particular category if the total number of valid ballots cast in that category is less than 25% of the total number of final award ballots received.

It would be comical if a lot of new voters just voted for the sad puppy slate and not for any other works, thus relegating ALL nominees in the down ballot categories to loser status. The fear they were expressing was regarding the new, first-time Wheel of Time voters. If the sad puppy brigade joined that contingent, it might spell disaster for this years ballot.
The only downside is that rabbit tears become less valuable because there will be a huge surplus this year.

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AmyCat
1 year 22 days ago

Leatherwing, implying that the Puppy Brigade voters should try to sabotage voting so that “the down-ballot categories” all get No Award would leave you guilty of the same sort of voting on politics rather than on the quality of the works which Mr. Correia attributes to the “SJW crowd”.

As a bookseller who’s been a fan since before “Star Wars”, and attending WorldCons off and on since 1980, I believe Mr. Correia overestimates the power and desire of liberal fans to blacklist conservative writers. For every vehemently-outspoken “liberal” fan, there’s a conservative/libertarian fan blogging against “P.C. censorship”. David Weber and John Ringo aren’t being kept off the shelves by the supposedly monolithically-liberal New York publishing industry (much of which is owned by decidedly ANTI-liberal corporations like Rupert Murdoch’s NewsCorp). I’m based in a fairly liberal part of the Pacific Northwest, and my customers are just as likely to buy those authors’ books (and Mr. Correia’s “Monster Hunters”) as N.K. Jemisin’s latest.

Of the commentary I’ve read so far on this issue, just about all seems to agree that, whatever we feel about an author’s politics, voting for or against personalities rather than works would be wrong. I look forward to getting my Hugo packet, and seeing for myself whether I agree with any of the “Sad Puppy” choices; since I’m not able to go to London, I’ll probably have a lot more time to finish reading the nominees this year.

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1 year 1 month ago

People have said Stephen King and J.K. Rowling aren’t real writers as well. I’ve seen many times over the years where they slam King on how horrible of a writer he is.

Book critic Harold Bloom said that Stephen King was “an immensely inadequate writer on a sentence-by-sentence, paragraph-by-paragraph, book-by-book basis.” He went on to say about J.K. Rowling “that [her] prose style, heavy on cliche, makes no demands upon her readers….How to read Harry Potter and the Sorceror’s Stone? Why, very quickly, to begin with, perhaps also to make an end. Why read it? Presumably, if you cannot be persuaded to read anything better, Rowling will have to do. Is there any redeeming education use to Rowling?….Can more than 35 million book buyers, and their offspring, be wrong? Yes, they have been, and will continue to be for as long as they persevere with Potter.”

People read fiction to be entertained. Readers vote with their wallets. I’d say that Mr. Bloom is an idiot. Tell them all to go STFU, keep writing entertaining stuff we (the readers) like and cash your checks. Would you rather have an award or a fat bank account? I know which I’d prefer. Numbers talk. Bullshit walks.

Keep doing your thing, Larry. We got your back.

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1 year 1 month ago

While I agree with your basic point, I find your examples unfortunate. I suspect Bloom is right (for once) about Rowlings.

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Eamon J. Cole
1 year 1 month ago

Kent (The Bold), I’m going to disagree. I’ve read the books, they’re light reading, no huge surprises, and not written as adult books. She’s not going to unseat Shakespeare, by any means. But she’s hardly worthy of such condemnation and contempt as Bloom trots out. I’ve had occasion to read much, much worse. (I’ve been in more than one spot where reading material was thin on the ground, it’s why I’ve read the Potter series.)

But, more importantly, she tempted so many kids into reading, new readers who have gone on to read more, bigger and better. Many kids who were unlikely to ruffle a page without dire threat, otherwise. For that alone she deserves some recognition.

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1 year 1 month ago

I’ve written about the disdain the “literati” types have for popular fiction and how very misplaced it is. To be popular, writing must touch something in the heart of a wide swath of people. One might dismiss that “something” as a cheap thrill, but it is there and it is real.

I may not like Stephen King’s books (I managed to get through one. One.) but there’s no denying that he can write stuff that grabs a lot of people. And it’s not just fadish “flash in the pan” stuff, but things that keep selling, year after year.

In Star Trek IV, there’s a line that was played for laughs, where Kirk mentions “the literature of the period” and names “The Novels of Harold Robbings, the collected works of Jacqueline Suzanne” to which Spock replies “The giants.”

It was played for laughs but there’s could be a lot of truth in it.

http://thewriterinblack.blogspot.com/2013/11/popular-fiction-ii.html

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Austin
1 year 1 month ago

I voted for you for two reasons:

1) Warbound was awesome and I’ve reread it twice (and listened to it once) since it came out. It deserves recognition. And an HBO miniseries.

2) I knew if you got nominated there would be dozens of popcorn worthy fiskings, Twitter fights, and awesome blog posts. And I already bought an economy pack of popcorn.

So, I guess that means I’m one of your hateful hatey hate minions.

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Aimee Morgan
1 year 1 month ago

Anyone know where the next World Con is being held?

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Skip
1 year 1 month ago

Spokane in 2015, I think. I went to the last two, in San Antonio and Chicago, but I don’t think I’ll be attending them going forward unless they’re in the neighborhood.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Spokane.

And well said, Larry!

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Mr Correia, no matter what I think of your politics or the way you express them, I love your books with a passion and believe you deserve a genuine chance at a Hugo. I wish you luck.

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Tony Muhlenkamp
1 year 1 month ago

All that being said, and utterly fascinating and all, I hope you’ll keep writing so I can keep reading. I’m not a “fan” or part of “fandom” but I do like to read your work. Thanks for getting it out of your head and onto paper where I can more easily get to it… :)

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Christopher M. Chupik
1 year 1 month ago

Seen on Twitter: “For guy who calls himself libertarian he has a remarkably fascist ego.” Also, someone is under the impression his fans call themselves Sad Puppies. Comprehension fail reading basic?

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dyingearth
1 year 1 month ago

SJW isn’t about fact. It’s all about feeling and correct thinking. If for any reason you deviate from the CURRENT WISDOM, you are a heretic and must be torched. Many current and former SJW’ers are finding that out now if they even consider to question the CURRENT WISDOM.

Remember: None Are So Blind As Those Who Refuse To See.

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rustypaladin
1 year 1 month ago

WTF is a “fascist ego”? I’m betting he/she/it simply wanted to use the word fascist so they could be one of the cool kids.

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Lemming
1 year 1 month ago

It does seem that those most like to use the word “fascist” are those least able to correctly define it.

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DaveP.
1 year 1 month ago

“Fascist ego”: Failure to submerge one’s will to that of the Collective. Like John Adams, Reverend Wilberforce, Fredrick Douglass (bonus points for escaping from Democrats!), and that guy in Tiananmen Square.

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CombatMissionary
1 year 1 month ago

@Lemming:
Those most likely to use the word “fascist” are those most likely to exemplify it.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

First you turn your ego and your brothers’ egos into a bunch of sticks. Then your dad ties them together. Then you all jump up and down on them and try to break them, and fail, because of materials engineering.

And then some jerk from Italy comes and steals your dad’s perfectly good object lesson about sticking together with your bratty brothers, and names his thug political party after it — because stealing is what leftists and socialists do.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

I know what a fascist asshole is, but a fascist ego is a new one to me.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

An ego that likes knee high leather boots, marching, and holding one hand outstretched just a little too much?

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Patrick Chester
1 year 1 month ago

Inigo Montoya would be most cross if he had to read Twitter.

“You keep using so MANY words that do NOT mean what you think they mean! Sheesh!”

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Charlie
1 year 1 month ago

Wait you say the W.o.T. has finally been completed?! Wow I gave up on it around book five IIRC.
I buy books I like to read, I’ve never made it through War and Peace a work that is called great literature, because it was boring.
It is always interesting how those who claim to be the most inclusive are the ones who are the first to attack those who don’t believe the way they do!

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junior
1 year 1 month ago

You know why Robert Jordan died, don’t you? It was because God decided that, one way or another, WoT was finally going to be finished.

/duck

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Dude. Party foul.

Funny, though.

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Charlie
1 year 1 month ago

ROFLMAO!!

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Synova
1 year 1 month ago

I think I read to about book five, too. I stopped reading, not because they weren’t fun anymore, but because I could “see” how various threads ought to be coming together, but they were continuing to go apart and I knew it wasn’t ever going to be done. (Now that it is, I may read it again, if I ever have a month of free time.)

WoT is why I haven’t read more than the first Game of Thrones book… I made a vow not to read incomplete series after WoT, and I didn’t realize until after I’d read GoT that there were more than three… or I wouldn’t have even read the one.

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Expendable Henchman
1 year 1 month ago

I think somebody ought to do a cartoon of all the WoT fans dead in the desert of Book 5. Because it seems like that’s where we all gave up.

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Levi
1 year 26 days ago

It’s a shame if anyone stopped at book 5, because the scene at the end of book 6 was almost awesome enough in its day to justify the dragging parts of the earlier books. Nowadays, though, if you want a good fantasy action scene just read a Grimnoir book.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Larry, I have never read any of your books. But now I have to! Keep up the good work!

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William O. B'Livion
1 year 1 month ago

I taught women, minorities, homosexuals, didn’t matter, often on my own dime, all because I think people who would try to drag anyone to death behind a pickup truck will have a difficult time doing so after they have a pair of hollow points placed into their chest cavity at high speed.

Clap Clap Clap.

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SlipperySnake
1 year 1 month ago

Yup, what a fucking hero. He couldn’t possibly be a racist, this is proof. Again treating racism like something you have to prove you aren’t infected with. Tell me more about how you don’t beat your wife.

Oh you forgot to quote the part where he repeated a racial slur then claimed it was all cool because it was in a bigger argument. Here I will fix that for you.

“Basically, he called Nora Jesmin an “ignorant half-savage” and that pissed everybody off. See, Nora, is a beloved libprog activist and Social Justice Warrior, and all the reports of her victimization at the hands of the villainous Vox usually leave out the parts where she’d been hurling personal insults at him for years. Myself? I thought that comment might be a bit over the line, but then again, Google search my name and see what the SJW’s have been calling me for the last few days.”

Racism isn’t really racism when people are calling other people names.

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Taco Shack
1 year 29 days ago

What is the racial slur?

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Fail Burton
1 year 1 month ago

The PC have had a sudden spell of incontinence. Although they write tens of thousands of words about hate-speech, racism, sexism, and gender expression phobias, they don’t actually have a neutral definition for those things that might work the same way law does.

For example, the PC love to mumble on about what Day said about Jemisin. I say “compared to what?” Somehow it escapes them that Jemisin has said far worse things far more often. In referring to all white people somehow being on the same page throughout history, what does it sound like when someone writes “…an ingenious system allowing it to dominate most of the planet. (Diabolical… but ingenious.)”

What does it sound like when Jemisin writes “Because the ‘fantasy’ most EF (epic fantasy) delivers is of white male power & centrality, as much as dragons. That *is* conservativism, now.”

What does it sound like when SFWA member, NY Times best-selling author and writer for Marvel Comics Marjorie Liu echoes that tacit racial conspiracy by writing “White male privilege cares ONLY about white male privilege, and there is no goal except maintaining that position of power.”

What is it when one-time Nebula-nominee Kate Elliott writes “It is understood that the law is for the benefit of white people”

What is it when Hugo-nominee Aliette de Bodard writes “There is something fundamentally, quintessentially ‘white male’ about most popular fantasies, which isn’t surprising because they’re being written by white men.” 

How about Hugo nominee Foz Meadows: “…white patriarchy. …man, does it get into everything” and “Old white guys. What are [sic] going to do with them?”

How about Charles Stross on the Boston bombing before the suspects were ID’d: “my money is on crazy white guys with a political axe to grind: the provisional wing of the Tea Party.”

Just replace key words in those quotes with “black” or “Jew” and tell me what you see. The fact is I can supply quotes like that in multiples from no less than a dozen of this year’s Hugo nominees on the side of so-called “social justice.” In return, the PC give us Vox Day… again, and again and again. There’s a reason for that: the PC don’t have anything else to give. Certainly nothing that would equal their own torrent of racial, heterophobic and sexist filth.

Our loving and compassionate social justice warriors don’t have squat when it comes to quotes that could come anywhere near the numbers of individuals from right in the heart of SFF’s institutions I can provide.

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Pellegri
1 year 1 month ago

Wow, Kate Elliott said that? I’m disappointed. From having read a lot of her stuff, I kinda figured she was capable of better reasoning than that.

I’ve kind of gotten the impression that the SJWs believe White People (especially White Males) are the Adeptes Astartes and White Privilege is the God-Emperor of Mankind. It’s literally undefeatable!!!

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Fail Burton
1 year 1 month ago

I’ve got quotes from Elliott you wouldn’t believe. I scarcely believe them myself. Her Twitter feed in the No. 1 source of PC entertainment in SFF; and its daily. You don’t even have to research her feed – just open it up.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Undefeatable you say? Pshaw!!!

All i gotta say is….

WAUUUUUGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

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Pellegri
1 year 1 month ago

@Fail: Oh no. I don’t think I want to, it’ll ruin my next rereading of the Crossroads trilogy. :(

@Bubbasrelm: See but they’re good little citizens of the Imperium that way! They may hate THE EMPRAH but they’ve totally bought into the state myth of his divinity! Versus actually not giving a damn, like the Tau or somethin’.

Guest
1 year 27 days ago

I’ll grant you they are good little citizens, but does that make Larry an ork? You know, heavily armed, wandering the universe looking for a good fight?

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Hi Larry! I find this a very enlightening controversy, and I dare say that those who criticize you are just bigoted idiots! See? I’m French, I consider myself a moderate left-winger! and, Brandon Sanderson and yourself are the authors I’m an absolute fan of! Whenever one of you publishes something I have to buy the book immediately and dive into it, emerging only when the book is over. The first book I read from you is “hard magic” and I chose it for one reason only: I loved the pitch! And, naturally, I loved the book and then I had to endeavor your other books and I loved them… what I don’t understand about this whole controversy and where I think that SJW’s are idiots is that I don’t see anything political about your books. You just write nice and entertaining stories! I don’t see anything preachy about you, on the contrary. And, that’s all I’m asking of a book: to be entertaining with characters we can identify ourselves with. Besides, if we take this approach further, and if we were to view every fantasy or sci-fi work in a political light,most of them strike me as “conservative”. 90% of heroic fantasy books take place in a monarchy for example, (which, for French people is the ultimate symbol of conservatism as we built our nation on the decapitation of a king of ours). So, does it mean that heroic fantasy should be denied the right to a Hugo? Of course not! but that proves one thing, they don’t judge an author, they judge a person. I don’t care about the setting as, what matters is how entertaining and well-written the book is. These bigots prefer to lynch somebody who does not share their political views rather than read books. In a fair world, voters should judge an author, and not a man they don’t even know…. I don’t know you as man, but I think I know you as an author! And, that is all what matters to me and all what will make me read your future books. the French audience deserves to know you anyway, and I will hope you’ll be translated into French one day (if that’s not already done).

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junior
1 year 1 month ago

Aymeric –

“the French audience deserves to know you anyway, and I will hope you’ll be translated into French one day (if that’s not already done).”

Check the blog post prior to this one. It’s the cover art for the French edition of Warbound.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

[T]he French audience deserves to know you anyway, and I will hope you’ll be translated into French one day (if that’s not already done).

It has been done: a French translation of Hard Magic is available here. Tell your friends!

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Laurie
1 year 1 month ago

One thing: in America, “conservative” actually means classic liberal – minimal government, free market, focus on individual freedom. These are America’s traditional values and the Constitution is designed to prevent government tyranny. It has nothing to do with supporting a king – quite the contrary, we’re proud of severing ties with a monarchy.

What Americans call “liberal” is what the rest of the world calls “socialist,” btw. And socialism, to me, is just another form of feudalism – as shown in “Animal Farm.”

So one could argue that an American conservative is a European liberal, and an American liberal is a European fascist. :-)

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Jonathan
1 year 1 month ago

As another non-American fan, I second what Laurie says. Liberal in Europe is a right-winger economically, as their aim is to liberalize the economy, which means less government intrusion in and control over it.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

This post was everything I hoped for and more. They really don’t realize that you already won.

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CombatMissionary
1 year 1 month ago

Everything is proceeding as Larry has foreseen. :D

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Patrick Chester
1 year 1 month ago

Thanks. I needed that image of Larry Correia in Sith regalia from SWTOR in my head.

It’s not pretty:

:-o

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

I can see it, the mask covers up the goatee :-)

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Patrick Chester
1 year 1 month ago

I was thinking more along the lines of the Sith you run into on Quesh for the Republic planet quest. Tried to link to it, but maybe there’s a filter. Ah well.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Ahhh, I see. I don’t think I’ve ever had the patience to spend much time on Quesh. The planet’s too orange. I always just did the quick class quest and whatever was nearby and got out.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Halfway through reading this post, I said screw it and decided to turn internet arguing into a game of Bingo.

When they get desperate, disrupt their arguments by posting “BINGO!” Show the SJWs that you could set a clock to their arguments! And when you’re target of their ire, give them a sporting chance by taking a shot every time you check one off!

http://tinyurl.com/lxdgzbj

Sorry for using a tinyurl, but it’s a long, long url. =P

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Are you trying to kill people through alcohol poisoning?! You evil, hatey hate-minion, you…!

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Heck…that’s a great idea! Especially when “arguing” with the gun control bigots.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

You’ll note Markely’s Law in there.

I originally had “Gun show loophole” and “Ninety percent of gun owners”, but I decided to focus on the Sci-Fi literati instead.

But, I went ahead and made a gun control version anyway.
http://tinyurl.com/khz6aed

While I recommended a drinking game for the last one, I feel only dread at the prospect of drinking to gun control cliches. Such a game would leave no winners, only survivors.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Dude!! Those are so far out the ballpark excellent I can’t even stand it!!

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Expendable Henchman
1 year 1 month ago

Sweet.

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Book
1 year 1 month ago

This needs to get printed out and brought to WorldCon. Can you imagine a group of MHI fans yelling BINGO! every few minutes? LOL

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kastandlee
1 year 1 month ago

Do not try that at a WSFS Business Meeting. And that goes for the other end of the political horseshoe as well.

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Book
1 year 1 month ago

Heh. Ok, Kevin, just in case that “LOL” in there wasn’t clear- that was a joke. I highly doubt that any of Larry’s fans would be so rude as to interrupt serious meetings. We might be a silly bunch with a manatee as our mascot, but we’re not THAT socially inept.

Although that does make me curious- were you saying that the words on the bingo sheet get thrown around so often during one of your WSFS business meetings that you thought it might be a real possibility? That thought IS troubling.

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kastandlee
1 year 1 month ago

I missed the LOL, and frankly, I’m not in a particularly good mood with the amount of bad attitude from both ends of the political horseshoe.

To be clear, I was addressing _any_ forms of attempting to disrupt the Business Meeting, by anyone or any group, not implying that there were any particular phrases being tossed around.

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Book
1 year 1 month ago

Well, I’m sorry you made that assumption. Maybe you should hang around for a while and get to know us a little better. Once you cool off and have some civil conversations, you might find that we’re not such a bad bunch.

Welcome to Monster Hunter Nation, Mr. Standlee. :)

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Christopher M. Chupik
1 year 1 month ago

Looking back at this craziness, I marvel that it’s been less than a week. In the long term, I fully expect more attacks on Larry. The “retrograde” attitudes of Larry and authors like him will be blamed for the decline in SF/F sales. Cons will have panels about the libertarian-conservative threat to the genre. Bloggers will call for Baen to be marginalized. Mark my words: it will get uglier.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

It’s already happened.
Baen is “That one publisher” that works with racist hatemongers. They’ve called upon Toni Weisskopf to denounce Correia and the other people she publishes, or be ostracized.

As for the panels at conventions, there was this panel with a one-time author who was talking about rules for writing urban fantasy. One of those rules was that readers liked urban fantasy, because characters from rural settings were crass, ignorant… well, you get the idea.

Mr. Correia would be able to tell you more because he was actually there, and he tore through every one of her rules while selling more books than she did.
I just wish there was a video of that panel.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Well, Baen works with communist Eric Flint…so I suspect they’d work with anyone who can write a good story. That would probably include a racist hatemonger. :)

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Exactly.

When Eric Flint and Mercedes Lackey are your right wing hate mongers, you’re probably doing leftism wrong.

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Christopher M. Chupik
1 year 1 month ago

Heck, C J Cherryh and David Gerrold were evil misogynist homophobes because they signed the Truesdale petition.

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SirBrass
1 year 1 month ago

Tom, you know they also killed Snowball… err… Trotsky. The left eats their own with a viciousness that rivals their hatred of common sense government (libertarian-leaning constitutionalism).

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

Larry, you need to start recording your panels for posting here. Medium-quality digital recorders with stereo mikes are pretty cheap these days, but the expression on your co-panelists’ faces when you plunk the palm-sized device down on the table (and they realise they will have to back up their spew)… priceless!

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ZOMG Evil Teahadi Artist
1 year 1 month ago

Saying “I’ve been to the country. I’ve been to Connecticut” is like saying “I’ve been to other countries, I’ve been to EPCOT”.

Guest
1 year 1 month ago

I would pay real money to see a video of that panel…

And the Ringo “ambushing the feminist ambushers” panel from Ravencon.

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1 year 1 month ago

SirBrass: True enough.

It’s hysterical though. You point out how they act just like Lenin and turn on anyone not pure enough for them, and they get all kinds of indignant. The cognitive dissonance with this group is just unreal.

I can’t believe I actually used to think like that. SMH

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Grayson
1 year 1 month ago

“I went full Conan on that one.”
I would purely love to watch someone “go full Agent Franks” on a nasty little panel of libprog troglodytes.Anything to make the mouthpiece on CNN start the 6:00 PM newscast with the words, “Holy Screaming S*it!!!”

If you come to V-Con next October, you shall never live in want of a cold beer, sir.
Thank you.

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1 year 1 month ago

Wait Eric Flint is a lefty? Never once got that impression in 1632… cool.

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1 year 1 month ago

*flynt… damn you no edit… damn you.

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dgarsys
1 year 1 month ago

larry – it makes me wish I was there to see that, just like I wished I’d been in a position to see Ringo at that Ravencon he ended up writing an AAR on.

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Expendable Henchman
1 year 1 month ago

@Bubbasrelm:
Yes, Mr. Flint is a lefty. While reading 1632, you might take notice of the power structure, post ring of fire. Also notice the part that labor unions play in the books.

It’s fine. Mr. Flint makes it work. And he has a total babe, who is a cheerleader, super feminine, and is a sniper who I seem to recall was called “angel of death” or some such. She frightened hardcore professional soldiers when they realized who she was.

So he may be communist (not sure) but he’s also very pro 2A. I can live with paying for his books.

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junior
1 year 1 month ago

One notable tell in 1632 is that the rich executive is written as a mean, nasty, cold-hearted individual. In particular was his “stand-in for racism” attitude toward the locals surrounding the displaced town. Then, out of the blue, an excuse for that was generated in the sequel to allow for his rehabilitation. If that hadn’t happened, Flint would have been forced to write him off. Overall, though, Flint’s politics don’t generate enough baggage to become overburdensome to the story. And the excuse does work.

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Geodkyt
1 year 1 month ago

I thought Flint was a Trotskyite, not a Communist.

Don’t really care, even though I believe he’s farther left than I am right (and I think Rush Limbaugh is squishy sometimes and too authoritarian in other spots). Dude can write some STORY — I’ll pay dirty, capitalist money out of my OWN pocket for anything he writes.

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DaveP.
1 year 1 month ago

Geo- Steve Brust described himself as a “Trotskyite”, though I’m not sure If he understands what that means.

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Geodkyt
1 year 1 month ago

Well the “orthodox” commies certainly threw out the Trotskyite “heretics” decades ago. Brust is another one whose politics I oppose, whose writing I love (and happily spend Imperialist Running Dog Yankee Capitalist dollars on.)

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1 year 27 days ago

@Expendable Henchman

I only read the first one, still trying to get enough scratch for the next. it was good enough i want to throw out some money for it.

@junior

Totally missed the evil pig dog capitalist. Just thought he was a douche, but i can see your point.

Overall I can see it was there, but not at the level of message Fic for sure.

Besides, I’ve even argued in the past that for small groups, i.e. village to small town level, were survival is the overwhelming task at hand, communism can actually work(this was a thought experiment, not an endorsement).

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John Wlas
1 year 27 days ago

This has taken on a life of its own.

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1 year 1 month ago

“The “retrograde” attitudes of Larry and authors like him will be blamed for the decline in SF/F sales.”

I laid off of SF/F for a long time because if I wanted a political lecture, I could watch MSNBC or any broadcast news show. I’m just now coming back to the genre. I love, Love, LOVE Monster Hunters, just bought the first three books this week and I’m getting almost no sleep because I can’t put it down.

But yes, it’s going to get uglier. Dissent will not be tolerated until “retrograde” types like Larry are back in charge of the culture, and then dissent will be welcomed again.

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1 year 27 days ago

Some entity named Athena Andreadis has opined that “Heinlein shouldn’t have gotten #HugoAwards THEN”.

Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein (a *55 year old book*, mind you) has an Amazon sales rank of 2,999.

The Other Half of the Sky edited by Athena Andreadis has an Amazon sales rank of 208,938.

Heh.

I repeat: Heh.

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CombatMissionary
1 year 27 days ago

As Captain Pike discovered with the Talosians: “Wrong thinking is punishable; right thinking will be as quickly rewarded. You will find it an effective combination.”
Apparently this applies retroactively as well. I assume Pope Formosus can look forward to another cadaver synod as well at the hands of the SJWs.

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1 year 27 days ago

To be fair, she seems to have a PhD in molecular biology from MIT, so her being actually stupid is right out. She also seems as pompous and self righteous as one would expect to flow from that. Her previous book is ranked at about 12 million. I didn’t know there were books ranked that low. We can take some solace in the near certainty that she will never breed.

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CiceroTheLatest
1 year 27 days ago

I have to disagree. I went to Amazon and read an excerpt from her book. It took about three sentences to determine that, Ph.D. from MIT notwithstanding, she is actually stupid.

I DO, however, agree the “We can take some solace in the near certainty that she will never breed.”

(As an aside, I wouldn’t hire anyone with her disconnect from reality to work in any capacity in any area of science or engineering.)

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1 year 27 days ago

Which book, C; her own on the biology of Star Trek or the one she edited?

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CiceroTheLatest
1 year 27 days ago

The anthology she edited. The preview opened into what appeared to be a preface. It was typical hard Left cant.

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1 year 27 days ago

Okay…try this: I could, of course, be wrong but….ever wonder how bright people – I’ll count myself and offer Sarah Hoyt, a libertarian, and Eric Flint, a Trot – can be bright and still not agree on what’s for dinner? It’s that reason and intelligence hardly enters into it. For us, for ALL of us, we operate off emotions, instincts, base values we were born with or took in more or less with mother’s milk and then rationalize from there. Reason hardly matters in human affairs, really. The difference between conservative and the extremes is that conservatives’ emotions, instincts, and base values are more in tune with the world as it is, and the left’s with the world as they’d like it to be. But in neither case does intelligence, per se, seem to me to enter into it.

On the other hand, this Athena person does strike me as a frightfully arrogant twat.

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CiceroTheLatest
1 year 27 days ago

I think where I’d disagree with you is “But in neither case does intelligence, per se, seem to me to enter into it.” In the sense of the score on a standardized I.Q. test, then no, it doesn’t. In fact, given the intricacy and depth of the Leftist shared fantasy world, I’d have to acknowledge that Leftists do display “intelligence.”

On the other hand, in the sense of intelligence as the ability to absorb knowledge, integrate it into a framework, and apply it to the effective solution of real world problems, they’re all dumb as stumps. Witness the effectiveness of the current administration.

(BTW, really enjoy your books. Glad you came out with a new one in the Carrera Series. Now, are you and Ringo ever going to tie up all the loose ends in the Legacy series?)

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1 year 27 days ago

But that difference doesn’t seem to me to be a function of intelligence, or reasoning power, but rather whether or not our instincts and emotions are in tune with the world as it is. Now we might say they’re insane, and they might say the same of us (in fact, we’re insane to each other), but intelligence doesn’t really enter into it.

John told me to hold off on the next Posleen book, which would have concerned the actions of the Legio Equestribus Posleenorum a Sacra Custodia Pontificis, in the war against the Hedrin, until he could do a couple more. I’ve lost my Jones for it, so am unlikely to proceed.

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1 year 26 days ago

Very true, Tom.

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1 year 27 days ago

“Some entity named Athena Andreadis has opined that “Heinlein shouldn’t have gotten #HugoAwards THEN”.

How to demonstrate the irrelevancy of your little award in one simple step…

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1 year 27 days ago

I think they’re just totally losing their shit. The argument all along has been that the Evil White Men were holding them back, yadda-yadda-yadda.

Now we’re in a world where self-published and small press books go head-to-head with the Random Penguins and Holtzbrinck offerings and (in some cases) rake in tons-o-loot, yet people still aren’t buying their works of genius.

That’s gotta sting.

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1 year 27 days ago

Athena Andreadis’ anti Starship Troopers stance, based on her own words, seems to be largely because of her opposition to the patriarchy of the white anglo-saxon male. She seems not to have noticed that the hero’s name is Juan Rico, and his native language was Tagalog. The fact that his mother was in Argentina when she was killed by alien attack also implies some Hispanic connection in his family. Also in the Starship Troopers universe, ship pilots always seem to be females because, according to Heinlein’s narrative, they were better at it than males, and the main one who features in the novel is called Carmencita Ibañez. Sargeant Jelal’s name is an interesting one too. Its used mostly in Islamic populations from Africa to India. The recruiting officer who signs up Rico had the last name is Ho = Cantonese. A lot of the other characters with apparently Anglo-Saxon last names could just as easily have been African-American, since their race isn’t stated. At least Rico was a male, so she got that part right I guess.

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CiceroTheLatest
1 year 26 days ago

You don’t think Athena Andreadis would actually READ something that challenged her preconceptions, do you? After all, that might start her on a path away from the Leftist fantasy world. Horrors!

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perlhaqr
1 year 1 month ago

The funny thing to me about all these people bitching about the “slate voting”, is that while, yes, I signed up and voted in this year’s Hugo nominations at your urging, I didn’t vote your slate. For one thing, I hadn’t read everything you suggested (though I did nominate most of the things that you suggested that I had read) and then in other places, I nominated works that weren’t anywhere to be found in your posts.

*shrug*

Goofballs, the lot of them.

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1 year 1 month ago

Wow…. I think that BBQ smell in the air is coming from some torched lefty ears. Awesome!

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andycanuck
1 year 29 days ago

And fat fires are the most difficult ones to extinguish.

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1 year 1 month ago

I think I’ve read all of your books, love them all. Besides enjoying your writing and being a “gun nut,” I enjoy you saying what you think, instead of toting some BS party line. Thanks for giving your comments. Look forward to meeting you at GenCon.

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1 year 1 month ago

Hah. I started the Wheel of Time when I was 15. So there.

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GregF
1 year 1 month ago

OK, now I’m pissed. All this talk about hardcore fans and not a single mention of tattoos. What do I have to do? :o)

Keep up the good work, I’ve still got space on the Larry Correia shelf in the library.

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SBP
1 year 1 month ago

It’s amazing how many of them Just. Can’t. Cope. with the idea that someone might actually have LIKED those stories. Considering the heavy activity in the comments here (even when something like this isn’t going on) and looking at Larry’s Amazon sales rankings across the board, it should be clear that he has a LOT of fans.

I hadn’t read any of Vox’s fiction before, but grabbed the freebie of the Last Witchking while it was up. Not bad at all (I think he maybe needs to work on openings a little bit, but the bulk of the stories were fine). Certainly not the Mein Kampf-level racial hatefest that the SJW/GHHs would have you to believe. Quite the contrary, in fact (except maybe for the orcs. It’s still okay to hate orcs, right?). I enjoyed it, and will probably read him again after I get to the bottom of that to-be-read stack on my Kindle.

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1 year 1 month ago

Totally not surprised. You’re one of the few authors whose pacing & style makes reading the book feel like I’m immersed in a *good* action movie.

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Geodkyt
1 year 1 month ago

Totally waiting to see MHi on the big screen. Like a good Marvel movie, it would be, only better. . .

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Gama
1 year 1 month ago

Wasn’t Toni up for a Hugo last year?

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mithbesler
1 year 29 days ago

Took a moment this morn to search out more nominees so I could READ their works. Did discover tor is offering everything but the WoT for free.
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/04/read-torcoms-original-fiction-hugo-finalists#more

Mostly I have been just glazing over the hatey hate hate that I am finding from these people. This one did kinda take me back. From
Abigail Nussbaum who got two noms Fan Writer and SemiProfanzine

“One can only sigh at Larry Correia’s Warbound, Book III of the Grimnoir Chronicles (serious, sigh) making it onto the best novel ballot, or Toni Weisskopf’s best editor, long form nomination. (As for the Wheel of Time series making it onto the best novel ballot, I’d just like to say to anyone who voted for this: feel ashamed, because you don’t even have the excuse of being a reactionary troll to justify your bad taste.) ”

http://wrongquestions.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-2014-hugo-awards-thoughts-on.html

This is the first time I have seen a attack on Toni from another nomine.

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1 year 1 month ago

You are horrible, horribly good!

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James T
1 year 1 month ago

Speaking honestly and plainly, I am not a big fan of Correia’s work. (Well, thats not true, I love his minis.) Not my speed. But, since this kerfuffle, I have made it a point to purchase multiple copies just to stick my thumb in The Right Peoples eyes. To date, all have been shipped to Afghanistan in various care packages, where hopefully they find readers and create more Corriea fans. And, my thumb isn’t sore yet, so I have plenty of stickin’ left.

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CiceroTheLatest
1 year 1 month ago

“… stick my thumb in The Left Peoples eyes.”

FIFY

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DaveP.
1 year 1 month ago

“To date, all have been shipped to Afghanistan in various care packages…”
This is the best thing in this whole comment section. Good on you, mate.

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dyingearth
1 year 1 month ago

One of Larry’s co-author is an active deployed military personnel in Afghanistan. His novels have been big hits with our service member world wide.

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Thank you for giving me another author to add to my list of ‘buy books from.’

Which book authored with Mr. Kupari should I start with, if I may ask?

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Eamon J. Cole
1 year 28 days ago

Dead Six is the first book.

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Thank you! I have just ordered it.

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Eamon J. Cole
1 year 28 days ago

I think you’ll enjoy it. But — it ain’t subtle…

;-)

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1 year 1 month ago

While I enjoy your writing, James T is quite right about your minis. They are quite good. I suggest that the next time you do a fundraiser, you include a “Correia Custom Painted Miniature” at a reward level. You might be surprised how popular that is.

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1 year 1 month ago

So you old cismale gendernormative fascist Lord Of Hate you, tell us what you really thank… :)

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1 year 1 month ago

I know! Normally he’s so shy and retiring… :)

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1 year 1 month ago

I’m a moderate / left-leaning guy. Agree with some of your politics, disagree with some of your politics. What really gets to me is the hypocrisy of all the the baseless and unfounded attacks against you. What also gets to me is this idea that you can only like a “certain type of book” if you are of the “correct political persuasion”. I don’t need to be leaning right to enjoy stories about magically enhanced people fighting it out between themselves, monsters and aliens.

The optimist in me says that the very vocal left are of the extreme variety and not entirely representative of left leaning people. I’ll try to hang on to that optimism as long as I can…

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1 year 1 month ago

Agreed. I’m about the same. Lean left politically, and probably disagree with Larry politically, more than I agree with him. But yeah, after this I’ll be grabbing copies of his stuff to read and share with friends. I’ll vote with my wallet. Micheal Z. Williamson and John Ringo I both disagree with fairly hard politically, but I like thier writing immensely.

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Mike
1 year 1 month ago

Hell, I’m libertarian and a huge gun nut, but I wouldn’t have nominated any of Larry’s books. I enjoyed them all, but they’re not what I consider award-winning level.

But the way the scifi blogosphere is reacting to this makes me hope he wins all the awards ever.

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phunctor
1 year 24 days ago

The thing about conscience, whether I agree with it or not, is that it won’t.shut.up.

It is told that Quaker Wm Penn had scruples about wearing the ceremonial sword that went with the Governor’s hat. The sense of the meeting was “Wear it as long as you can.”

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Tina Black
1 year 1 month ago

I am NOT going to read the Wheel of Time — I made it halfway through volume 1 a long time ago. Blah. Tor cheerleaders are INSANE. Everything else will get a chance.

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Russ
1 year 1 month ago

Well said. Some of the most closed minded people I have ever met were Liberals. If you try to debate them, they just claim you are either “stupid or misinformed” because you don’t have their point of view. Orson Scot Card is a homophobic ass, but Enders Game is a good book. I have never read any of your books but I will be adding you to my list of authors to check out. The Hugos have always been a good place to look for the next best book to read but I think I’ll stick to the older lists for now.

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Expendable Henchman
1 year 1 month ago

Actually, Orson Scott Card *isn’t* a homophobic ass. He’s a very devout Mormon, and he’s been spending an awful lot of effort and reputation points to get mainstream Mormonism (which *is* generally very anti-homo) to be somewhat less anti-homo.

Scotty went to BYU, and majored in theater, where he encountered a LOT of homosexuals, and couldn’t care less how they leaned. He also managed to piss off the movers and shakers, because he was there to educate himself, not to become a white shirt and tie clone.

His essay (which I’ve read a couple of times) was specifically targeted to members of his own church. That church teaches directly that homosexuality is evil. (Our esteemed bloghost’s opinions notwithstanding…).

If you’re going to write an essay to a mass of anti-homosexuals, you don’t start by glorifying rainbow power. If you do, they’ll throw your essay across the room and ignore everything you say forever. Card knows this well, and his point is pretty much “Hey, let’s start to not get after them so much.”

Immediately after King Barry’s ‘evolution’ on gay issues (he used to be flatly against gay marriage, btw…) it became open season, again, on conservatives. They were attacking everybody, and Card is a conservative in Hollywood, so he was a perfect target for the hate. Hell, he’s a registered democrat.

Yes, he most directly said ‘you can’t be a practicing Mormon in good standing if you’re gay’. It’s a doctrinal issue, and Scotty aint the Mormon Pope. It’s not his call, they’re not his rules. I suspect he’d be the first straight LDS guy to cheer if a new revelation came along okaying gayness. But I don’t speak for him, and don’t see that revelation in the works.

As to Larry’s feelings on gayness, he strikes me as not caring in the slightest, except for how many copies of his books they might buy. At least, that was pretty much his answer when I asked in person recently. I seem to also recall him saying “none of my business” or some such. And neither of us were sparing the political opinions in the conversation.

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William O. B'Livion
1 year 1 month ago

Immediately after King Barry’s ‘evolution’ on gay issues (he used to be flatly against gay marriage, btw…)

Did he evolve, or was he just lying before?

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1 year 1 month ago

He’s “evolved” so many times on this issue that I can’t even count them all. His position on gay marriage (or anything, really) at any given time can be predicted by asking “which option is the most likely to gain or retain power for Barack Obama”.

The point about Obama suddenly deciding that we’d always been at war with Eastasia…er…that gay marriage was awesome, followed by a Two Minutes Hate toward anyone who didn’t fall immediately into line is right on.

Me, I don’t think the government (and certainly not the FEDERAL government) has any business getting involved with marriage in the first place, so I’m neither for nor against gay marriage (or heterosexual marriage) in the legal sense.

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CombatMissionary
1 year 1 month ago

Speaking as a clearly impartial observer (wink, wink), I find it fascinating how the ‘evolution’ occurred mid-election, and the corollary declaration that he was ‘pro-gay-marriage, but gay marriage is a state’s rights issue so the Fed won’t be getting involved’ came out in January (if I recall correctly). It almost smacks of pandering. “Vote for me! I’m on your side!” [Promptly wins election] “Thanks for the votes! Oh, I’m on your side IN PRINCIPLE. Were you expecting me to do something about that? SORRY.”

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SlipperySnake
1 year 1 month ago

@CombatMissionary

Oh, but did you hear some bullshit story about his kids going to school with another student with lesbian parents. At the highest level every decision couldn’t possibly be motivated by politics, lol. Yeah I think these ‘evolutions’ aka stopping the discrimination are complete political bull too.

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CombatMissionary
1 year 28 days ago

OK, I’ll type in all caps so you’re able to actually read my response (although, as history has shown, likelihood of comprehending it is small):
MAKE ONE COGENT THOUGHT AT A TIME. MAKE IT RELEVANT TO THE THOUGHT YOU’RE RESPONDING TO.

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DaveP.
1 year 1 month ago

Here we go again…

“Homophobic” means “unreasoning fear or hatred”. In other words, to feel about gay people the same way I feel about spiders.
Not approving of SSM, not approving of ordained gay clergy, being Catholic, being Mormon… is NOT homophobia in the same way that failure to appreciate the subtle genius of the man who thinks America has 57 states is NOT racist. Keep on abusing the word and it’ll end up in the same place “racist” is now: an in joke, and that’s all.

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Paul (Drak Bibliophile) Howard
1 year 1 month ago

“Keep on abusing the word and it’ll end up in the same place “racist” is now: an in joke, and that’s all.”

Homophobic is a joke already IMO.

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jnials
1 year 1 month ago

Hmmm…. I’m way behind on my reading already, but I guess it’s time to go buy a Larry Correia book. Gotta reward good behavior. :)

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1 year 1 month ago

Ignorance can be so comical. That’s all this hate speech really is: ignorance.

Oh, wait, my bad. Ignorance is when you don’t know any better. Stupid is when you do everything possible to make sure you never know any better.

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CiceroTheLatest
1 year 1 month ago

Thanks for explaining yourself at the end.