Monster Hunter Nation

A book I need to read

I know the author online. I’ve participated in many email chains with him, Sarah, Mike, and Tom. I’ve got a copy, but I’ve not had a chance to read it yet. I wanted to read the reveiw copy, but I’ve got a deadline and I’ve been slammed. I’ve heard good things about it though.

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Normally I don’t post about books if I’ve not read them yet, but I’m posting about it here on the blog today for two reasons. First, the author had to let me know I’ve been one upped on gun usage. 🙂
From the Baen Bar, a retired master sergeant: “I read it and enjoyed it greatly. Baen might want to talk to the authors because they would fit right in. These guys like guns and prefer big guns. Guns that leave big body counts and lots of wreckage. They like hand-carried particle beams, lasers, slug throwers and vehicle-mounted missiles, cannons and chain guns. MCID would fit  right in with Monster Hunters International only with better weapons. But the attitude is there. The simple arrest in the park  is an all-time classic. I’ll buy the sequels.”

Second, I posted because it was written by Vox Day, the only man to ever get himself kicked out of SFWA for totally pissing off the PC police. Since they’re a trade organization that hasn’t done anything actually useful in years (hey, there’s all sorts of allegations that major publishers are lying on their royalty statements and ripping off authors? SFWA used to audit that sort of thing, but they’re awful busy right now contemplating the dangers of cismale gendernormative facism!)  but don’t worry, they had the time to put together a novella sized complaint against him, which mostly boiled down to he said something on their forum that could mayble, possibly, perhaps, sort of be construed as racism, if you squint really hard.

The next 30 pages was SFWA quoting rude posters on his blog (yes, apparently as an author, according to SFWA I’m responsible for all of you guy’s beliefs too, soooo that must be why the left wing authors all “massage” their blog comments by editing out everyone who disagrees with them), then showing that he was a bully by displaying his many terrible insults (leaving out the posts he was responding to, which were usually someone personally insulting him for his political beliefs, because you know if you don’t immediately roll over when a liberal calls you racist that is bullying) and finally trying to draw vague comparisons between WORDS used on his blog which could maybe possibly be tenuously similiar to things posted by random strangers on Stormfront, the Nazi cesspool. I kid you not.

So they kicked him out. Because heaven forbid somebody in an organization dedicated to SPECULATIVE fiction hold ideas and opinions which differ from the accepted group think. (what do you mean, Obama isn’t Jesus? How DARE you?) I’ve found the author is opinionated, pushy, and doesn’t back down from his beliefs. Good. You know, in the olden days that was sort of considered a sci-fi author’s thing.

For the record, I don’t even agree with Vox that often and we’ve argued on the internet about different topics a few times. He can be passionate and rude. Awesome. The difference is, I’m not a sissy looking for victim status. I enjoy people bringing divisive ideas to the table to debate. I like that people disagree with me, because how else can you keep your own arguments sharp?

Keep in mind of course, that it is my side which is always called “anti-intellectual”. Go figure. But then again, I never bothered to join SFWA.

I offend people on the internet for being an unabashed right winger. Vox sends them into hyperbolic rage spirals. He is their devil. They hate him more than Scott Card or George Bush, so that is saying something. Anybody who has caused that many panty twists is deserving of royalties just for the entertainment value of watching the literati have come aparts. 🙂

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Susan
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That looks really good.

Alauda
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I don’t ever plan on reading beyond the free preview but I am curious as to what was Steve’s and what was Vox’s.

John Cunningham
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this is hilarious, Alauda is apparently Andrew Marston of Marshfield MA who is a constant troll at Vox’s own site. check this out– iow, anything coming from Alauda would appear to be total BS
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-trolls-new-target.html

Majestic Moose
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In the same thread he said that whenever he got stuck he thought what would Larry do

RabidAlien
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Blow something up?

thewriterinblack
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I’ll have to check it out.

Rigel Kent
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He’s also a fairly decent writer. I haven’t read this book yet, but I have read a few others by him and they’ve all been at least decent. And it is fun watching people freak out at him.

Alauda
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I take it you haven’t read The War In Heaven yet. Because that book was so boring it was painful to read.

Rigel Kent
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Actually it was the first book of his I did read. First solo book I should say as I read Rebel Moon first but he co-authored that with Bruce Bethke. It was a little awkward in spots, but good. And certainly not boring.

Alauda
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Very well then. Perhaps you need better taste in books, or you need to read some books that actually range from fairly decent to excellent to put things into perspective.

Rigel Kent
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Actually my taste is excellent and I’ve read thousands of books. Books which have ranged in quality from some of the best ever written, to some of the worst.

But don’t worry, I’ll give your unsolicited and unwanted advice all of the consideration it deserves.

Sjonnar
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Alauda: Perhaps you should stop being such a smug shitlord and assuming that anyone who disagrees with your analysis of a book is an unread mongoloid with poor taste. Just to put things into perspective.

Catan
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A Throne of Bones is a great read for someone intelligent enough to be sick of predictable plots. I absolutely loved it, there’s some slow parts (huge book), but it all leads somewhere and the good parts are just great. Vox has a real knack for crafting a world that you have trouble predicting what’s going to happen, but nevertheless feels consistent and rational. Not common these days.

TWS
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But not the greatest swordswoman in all caracarclluescu. No one can write better than that.

Alauda
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The only thing memorable in A Throne of Bones was some terribad humor in a gladiator scene and an elf’s riposte to evolution.

Joe in PNG
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Oh, your writing is memorable too, much like the movies shown on MST 3k are memorable. Just not in the way intended.

michaelzwilliamson
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Or perhaps you need to choke on a bag of dicks.

DaveP.
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Yes he is. Summa Elvetica was five-star good.

Jim McCoy
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*GASP* You insulted the SFWA and leftists. I’m calling my commisar! I’m gonna tell him you support racist, rightist, gun-toting ideals and that you kick puppies and hate babies! Or better yet, that you HATE puppies and KICK babies! You eat meat to don’t you? You’re gonna be in SOOOOO much trouble! Get ready for re-education! The pain is a-comin’! And what about my right of free speech? You said something I disagree with, therefore you’re oppressing MY rights. Just ask the SFWA. They’ll tell you how wrong you are! Sorry, my smart ass side got hold of me today.… Read more »
Alauda
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Considering just what kind of person he is…

Jeff Gauch
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The best way to judge a person is by his enemies.

Alauda, could you tell me some other people of whom you disapprove? I need to make more friends.

Jordan S. Bassior
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Andrew Marston of Marshfield, MA, aka “Alauda,” doesn’t like me very much. I think.

SPQR
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Hear hear.

Rod
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You seem to be a snotty little shit who used to go tattle to teacher in grade school. You still getting wedgies when you’re around real men?

DaveP.
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A good one.

John Cunningham
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I think Marston is mumbling to himself, “Tea Party! Koch Brothers! Duck Dynasty! RACISSSSS!!”

That Guy
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You’ve convinced me. This has gone onto my to read list.

junior
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The idea that an organization of writers could complain that a writer wasn’t nice…

The mind boggles.

History – are they familiar with it?

Ken Warner
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I purchased the 2 books in the series, simply on your recommendation – I will let you know later if I will follow up with his other works.

Aimee Morgan
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It’s a trifecta! I can read a new book, contribute to Larry’s retirement by going thru his link, and piss off the SFWA by supporting someone they hate. What could be more better?

Alauda
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Reading something of quality, or in other words, something by a writer who’s claim to fame isn’t being a blathering misogynist, is.

Michael Kingswood
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So you define quality not based on the attributes of the work but based on the (alleged) attributes of the author, do you?

Makes sense. Keep up the good work, snowflake.

Alan
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When you can write something better, feel free to criticize whichever writers you want. Until then, you’re just an anonymous poster with no visible accomplishments, who hasn’t put her name on the line through the grueling process of having a book published. Do you realize how hard it is not to offend ANYONE when you write a book? Somebody’s not going to like what you write, and if every chip-on-their-shoulder, agenda-obsessed reader were to launch a campaign against an author just because they were offensive, we’d be living in Farenheit 451 times. And authors often can’t conceal their identity, and… Read more »
Alauda
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Being a better writer than Vox Day doesn’t require much talent.

Alan
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If being a better writer than Vox is so easy, please post a link to some of your writing, here on Larry’s blog. Hold yourself up to the same scrutiny that you hold others to, and we’ll see how long you last.

Post a link, or admit you’re wrong.

thewriterinblack
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Reading something of quality, or in other words, something by a writer who’s claim to fame isn’t being a blathering misogynist, is.

Aw, look! We got us a Special Snowflake.

Dear Snowflake, the criteria by which to judge a piece of written work is the contents of the work, not your assessment of the character of the author.

Glad to have cleared that up for you.

Julaire
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Those prose samples would be great submissions for the Bulwer-Lytton fiction contest. I’ve got a writing degree (and had to read a lot of the pretentious nonsense that passes for literature these days, so I like to think I have some immunity to it), and reading that makes my eyes bleed. (metaphorically, of course)

Draven
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That fiction sample has an atrocious case of ‘calling a rabbit a meerp’.

Alauda
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Alauda
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Also I can’t link to it without my comment needing moderation.

Alauda
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If you want to read something I put actual effort on (and made sure to purge any and all pesky editing mistakes) rather than something I barely edited and posted just to prove anything I write is better than Eternal Warriors

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Alauda
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I’m calling it crap because it only allows three strata of replies.

Alauda
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Let me wrap my head around this: You are saying that you learned about Vox Day because I said something about him in an entry in which you linked to a post by Vox Day about the politics of sf/f.
WHAT IN THE SHITTING FUCK?

Alauda
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You really should resolve all these spacetime anomalies. Something bad might happen otherwise.

Jordan S. Bassior
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This is “broadside” dialogue. It reads as if the words were a barrage of missiles being launched by a ship in an attempt to saturate the other ship’s anti-missile defenses. It is even funnier when thrown into the middle of an action scene.

Joel
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Lol. I only read two sections and I was already so “saturated” I was “starry eyed!”

APMski
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Yep, I heard about Vox only because that article was linked here. And have been reading his blog on and off ever since. And will be buying his new book. Probably not what our special person had hoped for.

John Biltz
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I’m the retired Master Sergeant that was quoted and I guess the only person here that has actually read the book. I really liked this book. I was pretty surprised when the author replied and said he was channeling Larry. Who knew I was insightful? This was my Amazon review. “I read it and enjoyed it greatly. What the other guys are saying about world building and character development with touches of what AI is going to be like are all true. So what I’ll say is this… These MCID are manly men who like guns and like bigger guns… Read more »
Alan
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It appears this “Aulada” person has dropped off the map. I guess it turns out he was this “Clamps” person that Larry mentioned, and has fled after Larry revealed his true identity. Funny thing, how the loss of anonymity causes internet trolls to lose their gusto. After reading samples of Clamps’s writing, I have to say that I do not see how it could be considered better than anything written by Vox Day. However, I’m not going to sling mud at it. Instead, I will say that the book Nocturne has at least an interesting setting, and if Clamps wants… Read more »
Alauda
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W.A. Mozart once made a hundred enemies at a single banquet. Where are they now? All dead!

It matters not that I made an enemy of Vox. Vox is little more than a boil on the ass of science fiction. Nobody’s going to read A Man Disrupted in ten years, let alone two hundred.

thewriterinblack
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And it must really suck for you that somebody like that gets more readership than you ever will, that the most attention you ever get is when people like Larry, Tom, or, yes, Vox Day, mock you.

Alauda
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People don’t read Vox’s fiction because they’ve heard good things about it, they read it because Vox is a well-known blogger who used to write for World Net Daily.

thewriterinblack
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So people read his blog and are so impressed/motivated that they go out and buy his books by the thousands? You’re not helping your case.

thewriterinblack
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Hey, Larry? Can we keep this one? We can call him Melvin.

Alauda
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They only read it because they’re sucking Vox Day’s cock.

thewriterinblack
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And you can’t even accomplish that much. Must suck to be you.

thewriterinblack
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Seriously, you just claimed that Vox Day is able to encourage literally thousands of people to fellate him, and to do so purely with the words he writes.

That’s not the mark of a bad writer, but of an extremely accomplished one.

Alauda
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Fact: Nobody outside of Vox Popoli or Monster Hunter Nation or the Mad Genius Club are ever going to read Quantum Mortis.

thewriterinblack
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Which is still more readers than you will ever have, except when you are trolling here.

Which explains why you troll here.

Must be an awfully sad life you live.

Alauda
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Who’s reading your work? Whoever the hell you are.

thewriterinblack
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Um, the tens of thousands of readers in Analog, the somewhat smaller readership of the late Marion Zimmer Bradley’s Fantasy Magazine. The thousands who read the Sword & Sorceress series of anthologies. The admittedly somewhat smaller readership of the Heroes in Hell series, just to name a few. Not all that much, so stipulated, but I’m not claiming that folk who are repeatedly and consistently successful are incompetent hacks, now am I? I’m not criticizing Larry, or Tom, or Vox’s ability as a writer (or even Stephanie Meyers, for that matter–however much I might loathe the very concept of Pedobear… Read more »
Alauda
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Just who the fuck are you?

thewriterinblack
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Reading comprehension issues? I am The Writer in Black.

Joe in PNG
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(who who, who who)

Alauda
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So you say. Doesn’t ring a bell.

I’m not an anthology/magazine reader. It’s hard being late to the party when it comes to magazines. Might as well not show up.

thewriterinblack
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300+ million people in the country. Most of them will never have read it. This is true for even the most “successful” authors.

But how many people have read my stuff is irrelevant. I’m not the one calling out other writers as being incompetent hacks, while at the same time claiming that their writing is able to inspire thousands of people to fellate them.

You are your own worst enemy.

Alauda
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It’s not about actual writing, it’s about ideology. Vox hates the same people they hate, you know how it goes.

Even what I read of Quantum Mortis is clunky and dull. 15 years of writing and these are the results?

thewriterinblack
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Even if that were true, for any given “hate” one can find lot’s of people who “hate the same things one hates.” Going from that to getting thousands of those people to buy ones books is a different matter entirely. That “different matter”, even if we stipulate that the blog is why, is called “facility with persuasive writing.” So your argument boils down to “he doesn’t sell books because of his writing ability, but rather because of his writing ability.” Which, as can be seen, is a contradiction. Thus, we find that your premise is flawed or, in other words,… Read more »
Alauda
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He’s not persuading anyone. They all agree with him.

thewriterinblack
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Reading comprehension issues again. You really must work on that.

Even if we stipulate that they agree with him politically and philosophically (your repeated assertions of same does not make it so), that is not the same thing as getting them to buy books. Lots of people I agree with on some matter or other. That doesn’t mean I’m going to go out and buy a book from them. They have to persuade me that the book is worth my time.

That you don’t know this shows how very little you understand, well, anything.

Alauda
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…whatever.

Rigel Kent
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My crystal ball is broken, so I can’t say who will be reading what ten years from now, but my Internet connection is working just fine so I can do some historical research. Rebel Moon is the first fiction book I can find that Vox contributed to, and The War in Heaven was his first solo work that I can find. They came out in 1996 and 2000 respectively according to Wikipedia. And according to Amazon they have both had Amazon Verified Purchase reviews posted in the last year and a half. In the case of The War in Heaven… Read more »
Alauda
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Oh, looky, the posts are in an anachronistic order.

Alauda
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Vox has been writing for fifteen years and he hasn’t improved his craft one bit. A Throne of Bones is every bit as dull and lifeless as The War In Heaven.

Rigel Kent
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Alauda
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So evangelical Christians have horrendous taste in everything. I knew that already.

Rigel Kent
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W.A. Mozart once made a hundred enemies at a single banquet. Where are they now? All dead! Well, technically speaking so is Mozart. One thing you’re right about though is that it doesn’t matter that you’ve made an enemy of Vox, (if indeed you have, I doubt you rate as high as enemy, but that’s immaterial at the moment) what matters is that you seem to think your personal opinion of his writing is in some way important beyond your own decisions in what you choose to read. Though for a guy who claims to hate his stuff, you seem… Read more »
Alauda
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But people listen to Mozart.

Nobody’s going to read A Throne of Bones or Caliphate a century from now.

Alauda
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I read War In Heaven so I could write a snarky recap. I thought of doing the same for A Throne of Bones but it was far too interminable and lifeless. I read the sample of Quantum Mortis to see if Steve Rzasa was any better than Vox (he isn’t)

Jordan S. Bassior
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Mozart is dead as well. Though his music lives on. And of course his musical skill logically says nothing about whether or not his enemies were justified in disliking him.

Some creative people can be very nice. Some creative people can be real pricks. And there are some, who are real pricks, and who sadly are not the slightest bit creative.

Jordan S. Bassior
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Well, I mostly write little nothing short-short stories, some nice essays, some longer fanfics and the like, but I do get people reading them. And not primarly to mock my style, as far as I can tell.

Maybe someday I’ll be a real writer like Correia or Kratman. Maybe I won’t. But at least I don’t leap onto other people’s blogs to tell them that they suck at writing because they have committed the crime of Disagreeing With Me.

Joseph Capdepon II
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Chlamydia, may I call you Chlamydia? Well, it doesn’t really matter if you want me to or not, because I am. Chlamydia, your writing is terrible. It reads like some angsty, teenage emo-tastic kid, sitting in his room staring at some sad picture of Robert Smith on his wall and writing the most asinine drivel that he can put on paper because he is trying to impress the hot goth chick that sits in front of him in class. I’m not a published author…yet. I have no doubt in my mind that I will be eventually. I know that I… Read more »
Russell
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“Aulada” is also a troll over at Vox’s website. It’s like he cuts and pastes the anti-Vox babbling.

VD
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Speaking of Andrew Marston aka Yama aka Alauda aka Arachnothera aka Will le Fey aka Clamps aka Yamamama, fans of his epic prose style should take a close look at chapter 10 of A Man Disrupted….

We owe him so much.

BigFire
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Chapter 10 or 14? I’m reading the pamphlet right now, and it’s night incomprehensible, on purpose.

Draven
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speaking of lefty sci-fi authors sanitizing their blog comments… and the SFWA… for those not keeping score the best example of that is the former head of the SFWA.

VD
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It’s like he cuts and pastes the anti-Vox babbling.

To be fair, he also hates Larry, Tom, and Dan Simmons. He will seldom let a trolling go by without mentioning at least one of those four names.

He also really, really likes animals and has a tough time with women. If he wasn’t such an unmitigated asshole, one would find it hard not to feel sorry for him.

Rob Crawford
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So, basically, you can read some great, entertaining and thought-provoking works by reading his hate list.

VD
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I, for one, feel entirely honored to be numbered in their midst. I’ve read at least some of all three men’s work and very much like the Hyperion Cantos, Grimnoire, and A Desert Called Peace.

Tom Kratman
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Hey, Larry, if you’re responsible for _my_ beliefs does that mean you’re actually still a Catholic and this whole Mormon thing is just disinformatsiya?

TWS
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Does Larry like MST3K because I do? Damn, as long as he doesn’t erase our blog posts we could put some awfully bad things in his mouth. So to speak.

Tom Kratman
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Andrew Marston of Marshfield, Mass? Where would sci fi and fantasy be without him?

Tom Kratman
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I feel kinda sorry for him anyway, Vox. Fortunately, I compartmentalize well, so fuck him. 😉

Curlywolf
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ewww…not even with king kong’s dick, Tom.

thewriterinblack
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Just remember, Larry, you know you’re over the target because you’re taking flak.

Jared Anders
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So, Alauda, Clamps, or whatever, I actually read the first few chapters you linked up there. I wish I could have a higher opinion of them. I could hardly have a lower opinion of them. The descriptions pull me out of the narrative, a forgivable flaw made much worse by the jerky flow of the narative itself, and after four readings – more times than it earned – I still don’t know what is even supposed to be going on in the passages. I could continue, but I don’t wish to be unkind. So you wrote some crap, thats okay,… Read more »
Alauda
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Perhaps that’s because Twilight and A Man Disrupted are more suited to your intellectual level.

thewriterinblack
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No, it’s because you suck and we hate you.

Anyone want to bet that Alauda won’t get the reference?

Jared Anders
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I never said *I* liked Twilight, merely that it was better than what you offered up as ‘superior.’ The only reason I appreciate Twilight is because it serves as the literary gateway drug for a substantial number of young people, particularly girls. They read Twilight, like it, and then look for more books like it, leading to better authors like Tolkien. Probably not too many go from Twilight to Correia, more’s the pity, but that’s mostly due to target audience than anything else. Personally I’m much more fond of Dickens, but that’s just me. I wonder though, if people like… Read more »
Alauda
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I didn’t say you did like it.

Jared Anders
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Whether or not I liked Twilight is about the least important aspect of what is being said here. Let me explain. No, there is too much, let me sum up. Your proof of superiority – your 16 chapter ~250 page manifesto – that you put forth, voluntarily, is an unholy mess. It was written in 2008, and has had something like 90 views on DeviantArt – 30 of which (for the first chapter) are from today, so almost certainly only because of this blog post. Even if it was a masterpiece it doesn’t matter if no one has seen it.… Read more »
ZeeWulf
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….Wow, clamps, you sure suck at this. You’re growing either more pathetic, or our right wing-ed-ness is slowly seeping into your brain, forcing you to reevaluate yourself and beliefs from all the repeated exposure to the clue bat.

Though I have my doubts. I’m quite sure you’re just getting more pathetic.

ZeeWulf
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Oh, by the way, Clamps, I heard you like to harass women. I take it you’re projecting your own deficiencies and faults on those who make you feel bad about your sad pathetic little self?

Tommy J. Sands
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I have enjoyed this so much….. I have been laughing my ass off! Thanks Larry! And a man shall be known by his Trolls….. Gotta work on that…

gaycynic
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Alright, I ran out of patience to wade through all the comments. 1) Given the quality of book that Larry churns out, even when it’s a series that doesn’t particularly draw me in, if Larry says it’s good – I’ll give it a shot. 2) From all I’ve heard of the modern SFWA, Heinlien would have given them the heeby jeebies – and John Campbell would have driven them to snivelling in corner crying for their assorted mommies. Any one they hurl forth for, essentially, political incorrectness…at least gets a glance. This may be a hint that SFWA is evolving… Read more »
Tom Kratman
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I’ve got a copy of SFWA’s by-laws and I’ve been contemplating how to create such an organization.

Keith Glass
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I’d pay money to watch that at rollout. If for nothing else but to watch the Krataclysms(tm) of Scalzi et al. . .

. . .and ESPECIALLY if Scalzi is still wearing that green ball-gown. . . (evil grin)

lonejanitor
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The MSFWA. Pouring napalm on aliens 24 hours a day. Sounds fun XD

Tom Kratman
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Here’s my problem; how do you create an organization that will not turn pinkofascisti in a couple of decades, while still leaving it open to the more reasonable liberal types, of which there are a few. Communists? Meh. People like Eric Flint aren’t a problem, you see, communist or no; he detests liberalism as least as much as I do. But there are a few reasonable and thoughtful liberals who are not, deep down, fascists. And then there’s the disinformative types, who will hide what they are until they’re in. I’ve been batting it around in my head for some… Read more »
Curlywolf
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“I’d pay money to watch that at rollout. If for nothing else but to watch the Krataclysms(tm) of Scalzi et al. . .

. . .and ESPECIALLY if Scalzi is still wearing that green ball-gown. . . (evil grin)”

Wait, Scalzi is a cross dresser? why am I always the last to find out these interesting things? 😛

Keith Glass
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No, Wolfie, several months ago, Scalzi wore a green Regency dress for a fundraiser, and it got made into a photomeme by someone trolling him. . . . .

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/08/26/to-the-dudebro-who-thinks-hes-insulting-me-by-calling-me-a-feminist/

gaycynic
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Tom, maybe steal the Mason’s membership and operating mechanisms (at this point very nearly everyone else has stolen one or the other, so…)?

Make it a selective membership organization, set objective standards for disciplinary issues, define the mission carefully in both charter & bylaws -and if you’re feeling frisky – inject a “loser pays” membership agreement re lawsuits…

Beyond that? Get a good core group of founders. 🙂 If it takes a majority vote for someone to join, and you’ve got good founders, you have a built-in screening device.

Jared Anders
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Criminy, for someone going on about how misogynistic others are he sure is a creep. Ah well, its best I not get in the habit of Troll baiting anyway.

David Baker
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I’ve never been arrested—never been in jail—so I lack the empathy this Clamps obviously has developed. (I also lack anal leakage, which I’m going to put in the “plus” column.) But just thinking outside of my own experience, I would have thought there might be some kind of prison store or commissary at the State Stalker’s Penitentiary where one might purchase a clue.

Joe in PNG
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Figures he’s a creepy-crazy-stalker guy. Normal, not creepy-crazy-stalker people don’t follow authors around and try to get people to not buy their books.
Kind of a “Fatal Attraction” thing there for Vox, me thinks…

Tommy J. Sands
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He really, really wanted to have Vox’s love child.

Wraith
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Did anyone actually make their way through his whole list of links without their brain exploding?

Holy shit, I’ve scooped better writing out of the litterbox after one of the cats got into the Alpha-Bits. 😕

Jared Anders
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I skimmed all of it while while I was dumping the whole thing into a word doc. I was curious to see how long it was – short answer, less than I wrote last month for Nanowrimo. To be fair I was glancing at a paragraph here or there out of context, but to be brutally honest I don’t think context would have helped any. Bad doesn’t begin to cover it.

Jerry
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I could eat alphabet soup and crap a better story line.

Sithspit
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Quite possibly one of the most biting and insulting indictments of written prose I’ve ever read.

Ever.

1911Man
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Awesome linkage here. Bought my first three Kratman books, first three Hoyt books, first three Day books, and first three Simmons books. (Hey, Simmons, what’s up with the Kurtz series being available on Kindle in Spanish but not in English?!?) Never let a good trolling go to waste. Pretty sure Gore or Kerry said that.

Robert Bertrand
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You know, Larry. I only started reading your books this past year. Become a real fan in a very short amount of time. Finished off the Monster Hunter series and have just started Hard Magic.

I did not think it was possible for me to like you any more than I already did. Your troll-handling is fantastic. You make some very despicable critics, which I think makes you cool by default.

tmechanic
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I’m not sure whether I should laugh or cry, read the first paragraph and thought, these are grammatical mistakes from my junior high English book.

Minimum Wage Historian
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Dang, I wish I had a troll this amusing on my web site. I gotta have Napoleon step it up a notch. This dude sets the bar high.

Keith Glass
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Larry. . . you know what this means. Time for yet ANOTHER “dramatic reading” of the fiction of Yama/Clamps/Whatever he’s calling himself this week. . .

Brian J. Musick
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Alauda, does it bother you that everyone cares more about their morning shit session then they do about your opinions?

chilepepper99
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hehehe……I wasn’t planning on reading any of Vox’s stuff, but since clamps dislikes it so much, it must be work reading. I’m going to go buy some of it right now. Of course I’ll be using Larry’s links so he also gets some love 🙂

Walter Daniels
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Alauda, if that is an example of your “writing,” it badly needs improvement. Back in the 70’s I edited a Fanzine, and that would have come back with about two pages of comments on rewrite (at least), per page of material. Starting with “I read the first para (about 5-7 lines) and had no desire to read the rest.” There was absolutely NO REASON to want to read any more than that. OTOH, let me quote from “Scarlet: the Lunar Chronicles.” “Scarlet was descending toward the alley behind the Rieux tavern when her portscreen chimed from the passenger seat. Followed… Read more »
Nick
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I’m not one of the “I disagree with the author and therefore his writing is terrible” types, but it’s a bit disingenuous to describe Day’s beliefs as something that could “maybe, possibly, perhaps, sort of be construed as racism, if you squint really hard.” This is how he defines “defending traditional American society”: “If Americans can find the courage to consciously reject the myth of the melting pot and expel the Mexicans from the American Southwest, the Arabs from Detroit and the Somalis from Minneapolis, they can reclaim their traditional white Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture.” (http://www.wnd.com/2010/05/151689/#41oRDoQx5CV1r6ij.99). Calling for the expulsion of… Read more »
Keith Glass
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Traditional American Society always included the concept of the “melting pot”. When immigrants come here, and do not, and in fact, REFUSE to assimilate into the greater culture, that’s a problem.

Heck, a century ago, someone from an Irish neighborhood wouldn’t spit on someone from an Italian neighborhood if they were on fire, but today, the only difference, for those that still exist, is that one tends to have better beer, and the other better food.

VD
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Traditional American Society always included the concept of the “melting pot”. No, it certainly did not. The “melting pot” was a term invented and popularized by a Jew named Israel Zangwill who emigrated from Russia to Britain in his 1905 play “The Melting Pot”. One reason the earlier wave of immigrants were able to successfully integrate was that the size of it was smaller and there was a 40-year period of very little immigration that permitted the nation to digest it. “In 1924 and 1926, partly in response to pressure from labor unions, Congress put in place the first comprehensive… Read more »
VD
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I should probably mention that as a long-time immigrant myself, I have a different perspective than most. It’s a little ironic that many of those who disagree with me on this subject still consider me an American, while simultaneously insisting that immigrants who have been in the USA for far less than 15 years should be considered Americans as well.

VD
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Calling for the expulsion of racial and ethnic minorities in order to reclaim WASP culture is pretty damned racist. If a German had warned some Jews what was going to happen to them in 1940, or if a black African had warned Rhodesian whites what was going to happen when Mugabe took over, would you consider that racist too? WASP culture isn’t magic. It can no more survive the replacement of white Europeans by different races and ethnicities than Cherokee and Sioux culture could. If you don’t defend it, you will lose it. That’s not “racist”, that is both logic… Read more »
Larry Mitchell
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I was curious and searched out more and I came to the blog entry by Shadow Dancer at http://cutelildrow.livejournal.com/2478477.html, where she describes in detail what sort of nastiness this utter piece of vile excrement put her through.
Read it all.
This guys needs a serious amount of correction and soon before he actually crosses over and rapes/murders someone.

bclewis
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It’s ironic that the same internet that trolls hide behind is the same internet that can expose them for what they are. They operate under the delusion that they can hide behind a screen name and an avatar. Or multiple screen names or avatars. With a few key strokes and mouse clicks the mask is ripped away. Reading the exchange between Larry and this asshat and others was hilarious. It was funny, like watching him being swatted back an forth like a wiffell-ball. Which is fitting, because like a wiffell-ball his arguments just like his head are hollow and full… Read more »
Joe in PNG
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I find Rapey McStalker Creeper Creep’s intent of writing a snarky recap of Vox’s writings to be rather amusing. Looking at his comments here, and it is clear that his attemtps at writing snark would be far less successful than his blind stabs at producing fiction.

Hell, he had a great opportunity to bring some serious, ‘A’ game snark and insults, such to make Oscar Wilde and Dorothy Parker weep that they did not create such masterpieces.

Instead, we get the trite nonsense and purile babbles Clamps the Wonder Stalker wrote above. Lame, lame, lame.

Larry Mitchell
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Yes, people like that seem to think they can’t be found and that we can’t get every little bit of information on them. There are a lot of databases out there that pretty much allow you to discover whatever you want on someone. Anonymous calls it doxing. I think this troll needs to be doxed in full.

Richard Cartwright
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If this guy spent half the time he appears to spend stalking, harassing, getting around bans, and attacking profitable writers (since apparently creators of prose who engender ”keep writing and take my money ” in readers are not real writers in his world) in actually learning to write, he might achieve profitability someday. At the very least, reduce his troll footprint.

warpcordova
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Damn it, Larry. You banned the troll before I got to play. I’m going to go pout in my corner and blog about how my life now sucks…

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Anne
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@Tom Krautman 27:2:3

I don’t think it is possible to make a group takeover proof, but you shouldn’t let that stop you from creating one. Just keep the balance in the organisational treasury low enough that if there is a takeover, the good guys can bail out and start over without loosing too much money.

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