Some of you may be asking, who is Mike Glyer and why is he a simpering feculent? Well, count yourself lucky that you’ve avoided running into him, because he’s basically an oily discharge from a diseased dog’s colon. He’s a loathsome slug of a man, who creates nothing of value, but who makes himself feel important by tearing down people who do create things. He runs a sci-fi and fantasy lit “news” site for the dimmest, most pathetic, social justice dipshits you’ve ever seen, and 97,000 Chinese robots.
You’ve heard the term “clown shoes” before? Well, Mike Glyer is clown shoes, but only if the sewer clown from IT threw out his pair because of the fungal infection and all the rotting toenails that had broken off inside.
I wrote this link the last time he failed to keep my name out of his whore mouth, and it’s got links to several of the previous times he forgot to keep my name out of his whore mouth: https://monsterhunternation.com/2019/08/15/the-super-dumbness-continues-mike-glyer-edition/
Though I have repeatedly warned him not to write about me, Mike Glyer must be desperate for some (non-Chinese bot) web traffic, because he’s talking about me again.
So what got Glyer’s panties twisted up into his greasy taint hole this time? Well, apparently it was because almost exactly one month ago I mentioned in passing (literally two sentences) that Glyer had put a pirate link to an author’s work on his shitty website, and when that author also told Glyer to keep his name out of his whore mouth and take down the link, Glyer got all butt hurt about how he couldn’t be a useless tick sucking the lifeblood from authors like usual, and bitch moped about it.
Well shucksy darn, the poor fella, I bet that crushing disappointment at not being able to be a leech off the controversy to bad mouth another writer was just awful. He could barely handle all that disappointment. So after taking a month off to eat a few hundred gallons of Ben & Jerrys while rewatching his entire VHS collection of vintage Tijuana donkey porn, Glyer finally worked up the gumption to post this: http://archive.fo/cwuWF
My friend and moderator, Jesse, sent me that link (archived so as to not give yourself Vile 770 cooties). Warning, reading Vile 770 comments can cause double vision, dizziness, despair for the future of mankind, death, and anal seepage. What is the readership of his page like? Imagine the comments section of Youtube, but subtract a bunch of IQ points, then give them mobility scooters and oxygen tanks, or twenty housecats.
So what is China Mike’s problem? (Besides being a self-absorbed idiot , obviously) Well, it turns out that he is super butt hurt that all the authors with the wrong politics are now aware of his schtick and an increasing number of us no longer tolerate his antics. As usual he tries to frame all this with how he is the persecuted victim with his usual passive-aggressive snide insinuations.
Sadly, Glyer sucks at everything so he screwed that up too.
So let me break down the many ways Glyer is dumb this particular time:
First off, his big long-winded explanation about how he is really the victim here and he is So Offended that people called him a pirate… it’s all bullshit. Like usual, Glyer was an asshole, and then gloms onto some interpretation that makes him the good guy, even if the interpretation is really stupid, and nobody sane buys it.
This is what happened on my side of the fence (my side of the fence is nice, Glyer’s side of the fence smells like hobo urine). See that first link I wrote? I stuck that on Facebook. In the comments another author mentioned another example of how Glyer had put a link to that author’s stuff on File 666, and when the author told him to take that link down, Glyer got all bitchy and entitled. So I mentioned it, I think the next day.
I didn’t even care enough to look into it. I didn’t know the details. I had no reason to disbelieve the author (can’t say that about Mike Liar though!), but since I was already beating Glyer like a pinata (but there is no candy when you break him open, only gravy comes out) I mentioned it. That’s it. Whoop de fucking do.
REEEE! SLANDER!
Whatever. But now that he brought it back up I decided to get the details. So I messaged Richard Fox and he was happy to forward over the entire email exchange between him and China Mike. After reading it, I ain’t apologizing for anything. Instead I’m going to expound about why Glyer should crawl back under his Lilly pad.
If you are an author with politics anywhere to the right of Che Guevara, and your name appears on Glyer’s shitty gossip column blog, you’ve got a 770% chance that it is because he’s snidely trying to stir up controversy against you. It riles up his idiot readers and gets him hate clicks. (and we’ve already established he loves to brag about his traffic, even when he’s so fucking incompetent that the screen shots he posts to show off said traffic indicate only 3% of them are actual human beings).
A while back Richard Fox got nominated for a prestigious award for a story he wrote. Problem was, Richard is a financially successful indy author, and the snoots have a hate boner for indy authors, (snoots are all about writers having to go through proper thinking “gate keepers” first). Since Glyer is addicted to stirring up controversy, the world’s fattest vulture swooped in and started posting about Richard Fox’s nomination.
Wait… You know what? Glyer is right about one thing. Accuracy is important. Vultures are actually noble, social creatures who play an important role in the ecosystem, which is basically the opposite of Mike Glyer, so I should not have compared him to a vulture. I apologize. To vultures… Not Mike Glyer. He can fuck right off.
Problem was, Richard was already wise to Glyer’s game, and told him to keep his name out of his whore mouth, up to and including sending an official take down notice.
Good. Because fuck Mike Glyer. Every author should tell him to keep their stuff off his awful website.
At the time I didn’t really know or care who posted the story on the internet. That’s obfuscation. If Richard did post it himself, that’s up to him. When I throw out the trash, that doesn’t mean I want racoons rummaging through my garbage can. Nobody wants racoons in their trash. Now imagine Mike Glyer rooting around in your dumpster. No. Shoo, bad Glyer! BAD!
Except after seeing the email exchange, it’s worse than that. Richard posted the link to a private closed forum only readable by SFWA members (the people who would be voting for the award). Somebody (Richard says he doesn’t know who) took that private link and stuck it on Google Drive and Glyer linked to that to get clicks for his shitty public website. When Richard contacted him, rather than be a decent human being and go “Oh, my bad. Sorry.” Glyer acted like an entitled shit and started lecturing the author he was trying to screw over about his tone and lack of civility.
It probably didn’t help that Richard addressed him as “China Mike”. 😀 Glyer hates that.
Richard also tried to post in the File 770 comments, but as usual China Mike just deletes all the comments that disagree with his narrative. (he also deletes comments when his posters say egregiously stupid shit and people start to mock it, so that he can pretend his readers never said the stupid thing and we’re just making it up to be mean. It’s sorta like gas lighting, only all the gas comes from Glyer’s four stomachs)
You’ve got to understand Glyer isn’t in this to promote authors. He’s in this to fuck them over because it makes him feel like a big shot. Richard told him to take his stuff down, Glyer got butt hurt. Though I do like how this shifty, disingenuous bastard talked about how the exchange between him and Richard got heated, and he’s happy to put up any screen shots that make other people look bad, he never puts up the screen shots of him being a sanctimonious asshole to the author asking for his property to be taken off a page that hates him and everything he stands for.
Glyer is playing it like he’s pure as the snow. Hell no. Glyer isn’t even yellow snow. He’s not three month old Wyoming road snow. He’s that green snow that fell in Utah after the Nevada nuclear tests that ate the paint off people’s cars and gave all the children leukemia.
So when any author tells this toxic scumbag to keep his product off that garbage webpage, GOOD.
Second point, to further illustrate how basically everything Glyer says is more twisted than a duck’s dick, he says that I never said the author’s name even though Glyer’s name was repeatedly mentioned, and he implies that this was some cunning attempt for me to hide the author in question’s identity, because that would like totally exonerate poor innocent Glyer.
Snort. That’s rich. Okay, you guys all know that I am not exactly known for my subtlety. In novels? Yes. For mocking Mike Glyer? No way. For him I’m as subtle as a brick to the face (he never should have picked a fight with the son of a Portuguese dairy farmer, because we are genetically incapable of giving a shit about the opinions of fools).
No, Glyer, you nincompoop, I didn’t mention the author’s name because I didn’t really think about it at the time. I mentioned the incident in passing. Your name got referenced a lot because you are basically the flaming bag of dog shit that shows up on my doorstep a couple times a year. You are the subject. Richard was ancillary to the tale. And if I’d bothered to get more details a month ago, I would’ve made fun of it the exact same way I did here today, because the problem is obvious. You really need to learn to keep authors’ names out of your whore mouth in your desperate attempt for your 57th Dildo Award nomination.
(Yes. Dildo Award, because let’s be honest, if they’re gonna rename the Campbell the “Astounding” because Campbell was “problematic”, Hugo needs to go too)
Third point, Glyer implies that I must have been colluding with Jon Del Arroz because we both mentioned Glyer getting kicked in the sack on this issue around the same time. This just goes to show what a fucking dope Glyer is, because I think JDA is still mad at me for booting him off my fan page for annoying me. I hadn’t talked to him much for months before that, and I haven’t talked to him since, so if we colluded it was by fucking telepathy. The other possible explanation is that there is such a thing as “dates” and “calendars” and we both saw Richard talk about it around the same time, and we both hate Glyer’s guts.
(as for Jon, I blocked him on Facebook a while back because he pissed me off, but I still wish him the best. I hope he has a great career, writes a pile of books, and makes his fans happy)
Now, back to the half-wit goat-rapist in question.
Fourth and final point, Glyer says I lack the integrity to apologize for spreading this horrible slander against him… Hell no. That would imply that I’m wrong in my assessment of the toad. I’m all in. Let’s hit this head on. I only apologize when I am incorrect, and my point every single time I’ve ever posted about Glyer here is that he’s a corrosive scumbag parasite shit weasel, and a cancer on this business.
Point stands. (double stands, after you read the emails and see what an entitled shit Glyer is)
The day his stupid website finally shuts down, every conservative or libertarian author in America is going to party like the Ewoks at the end of Return of the Jedi.
Yub yub, motherfucker.
That bit about me being a role model? Awesome. No, really. I mean that. Many authors have known that Glyer was a vampiric piece of shit going back for decades, but they rarely said that in public because they were worried about the fallout from angering fandom’s prolapsed anus. Then I came along, rocked the boat (my saying the Hugos were broken was really upsetting to a guy with two dozen Hugos, go figure) and he’s been coming at me ever since.
Believe it or not, I actually tried being polite with him at first (like most authors he screws over), but then I realized what a disingenuous scumbag he was, and I’ve been blunt about him ever since. Glyer is still super upset about that. The awesome part of that is my public honesty about the guy warned a whole bunch of other authors to avoid stepping in that particular Glyer shaped cow pie. It’s kind of awesome now when I go to cons, and get to meet long-time, old-school, writers, and they’re like, oh yeah, Glyer has always been asshole, I’m glad somebody finally came out and said it in public.
As for all his hand waving obfuscation about Richard Fox’s filing a takedown notice on him and the carrying on about perjury, I’ve got no idea. I don’t know legally how any of that stuff works, but if Mike Glyer said the sun rises in the east, I would become suspicious and then go outside to check.
I loved the bit where Glyer says that he has reported Richard Fox to SFWA! (what does he think they are going to do? Send the Stasi to Richard’s house?) But since Mary Robinette Kowal is now SFWA president then I’m sure SFWA’s response will be totally reasonable, rational, calm, and in no way politically biased whatsoever. (hang on… where is the sarcasm tag on WordPress?)
Come to think of it, that would be interesting though, having an organization supposedly for writers siding against a writer trying to protect his product and reputation, in favor of a seedy gossip columnist.
If I am “spreading slander” against Mike Glyer, and he would truly like for it to stop, then the answer is very very simple. So simple that even a pile of rotting kelp like Mike Glyer should be able to understand it: Keep my name out of your whore mouth.
Seriously, Glyer, just shut up about me and I’m happy to forget you exist. But you keep on doing your thing, because parasites gotta suck. If you don’t want me to mock you, all you have to do is refrain from mentioning me on your shitty website. Only since you keep bringing me up for hate clicks, everybody knows you are a lying piece of shit who just wants to play the victim while you go all “Woe is me, Correia is so mean the way he won’t let me snidely belittle authors and harm their reputations with impunity like I used to! I’m gonna go abuse my flaccid cloaca to donkey porn! REEEEEEEE!” or something like that. I’m guessing here. I just kinda skim what Glyer writes. He’s painfully boring.
EDIT: And here is a message I got from Richard Fox. I believe he tried to post this in the comments of the Vile 770 post accusing him of perjury, but of course, China Mike wouldn’t let the comment through. (for “civility” I’m sure, because for scumbags, civility means letting them do whatever they want while keeping our mouths shut)
There’s plenty more to this story that File 770 leaves out, and plenty of outright lies. I rather doubt File 770 has the integrity to allow contrary facts, but we’ll see what happens.
I am the copyright owner of the story Going Dark. I never gave permission (nor was I asked) for File 770 to distribute that work.
Ellen Campbell edited the Backblast Area clear anthology, she’s not the one that published it, that’s JR Handley.
I don’t know who on the SFWA page made the link to the story public facing. The story was posted in forums for SFWA members to read for their consideration. As the Nebula’s are voted on and determined solely by SFWA members, it really does stretch credulity that File 770 would insist that authors want their work read by the general public for this award. The Nebulas are not the Hugos or the Dragons. This is pretty basic and you’d think a SF site would know the difference.
Those Google drive links have been taken down after my piracy complaint. Did you read that carefully? The Google drive links and the hosted PDFs have been removed following my piracy complaint. I as the copyright holder did not give permission for those files to be hosted or made available to the public. Piracy. Full stop.
Putting up links to pirated material is piracy. File 770 was told that their link (which went specifically to the Google doc and not to SFWA’s page) was pirated and to remove it. Yes, that is piracy by legal definition.
https://www.quora.com/If-I-share-a-link-to-a-pirated-book-on-my-website-will-it-be-illegal
It’s remarkable that Glyer said he first removed the link because ‘I have no interest in publicizing someone who would make such an unfounded accusation.’ He didn’t remove the link because the copyright holder told him it was pirated, he did it out of spite that his ego was bruised. This says a good deal about Glyer, none if it good.
Previously, when Cameltoe Flipflop hosted the same pirated link and I demanded he remove the link, he did so immediately. As any adult professional would do. Glyer failed in this very basic standard, and then doubled down on having his ego bruised (and the comment I made on his post with the pirated material wasn’t made public at the time of our discussion, his reputation could have remained as pristine as he thought it was and just removed the link as requested). Further, Flipflop never told me where he got the Google Drive link.
After Glyer put the pirated link back up, I told him I would file a DCMA complaint if he continued to host it. When he refused, I sent a DCMA request directly to him. After he refused to comply, I sent the DCMA request to his ISP and they removed the post.
Further, I told him I would submit a complaint to the SFWA Griefcom if he did not remove the link, and after his refusal said complaint was submitted.
It really does baffle the mind where the copyright owner of a work demands infringing material be removed, and somehow Glyer feels he has the moral high ground to keep that pirated up after repeated demands. If he had simply broken the link as requested the first time (and not gone back and redone the link after telling me he’d taken it down. A failed attempt at being clever and displays his lack of integrity) the matter would have ended.
As to the assertion that I have somehow committed perjury: I am the copyright owner of that story. I know who I’ve licensed the story to and those Google docs (and Glyer’s links to it) were not authorized be me. Hence, piracy.
The moral of this story is to not host or link pirated material, and if you’ve done so in error, just fix the issue when requested. But here we are in 2019 and Glyer’s failed at it.
But I’m glad Glyer has made it very clear to all and sundry that he engages in piracy and is proud of it. Bold move, I’m sure the SF community will appreciate it.
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EDIT 2: I just caught a 3 day Facebook ban. Not even for this post, but for the FB post the night before after I saw Glyer was writing about me again. Apparently just saying that Mike Glyer needs to learn to keep my name out of his whore mouth is hate speech. 😀
We’ve seen the File 770 people straight up brag about reporting all my posts as hate speech on Facebook so that I keep getting blocked there. That’s a good example of the kind of unctuous slime we are dealing with here (and also how Red Flag Laws will work in real life!)
But anyways, if I’m going to get blocked on Facebook for telling the truth, then by golly, let’s make sure that truth goes far and wide. I am now going to ask you guys for a personal favor, to please share this post. I would like for 10,000 new people to learn just what kind of scumbag Mike Glyer really is.
Whoa! First!
Glorious word-beating. I’m afraid you held back a bit Larry…
“Yub yub, motherfucker.”
I’m going to be muttering this for days now, you ass. Well done.
There’s GOT to be a meme there
Check Larry’s FB post …
Not a user of the Devil’s Database
I know…’cause some of those Ewoks are badass mf’era.
I cannot get the image of a pissed off Ewok muttering that while flipping somebody off out of my head.
ROFL! Now I’m gonna get stuck with that. Thanks!
While I have no great love for Lucas’ re-does of SW, TESB, and ROTJ, I would make an exception for Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu at the end of ROTJ saying “Yub yub, motherfucker.”
Larry, can you add “LIKE” buttons onto the reader comments? Yub yub mother fuckers!!!
“The day his stupid website finally shuts down, every conservative or libertarian author in America is going to party like the Ewoks at the end of Return of the Jedi.”
I don’t party about irrelevant pieces of shit. Glyer’s not even worth the bandwidth.
Despite his claims of being this fanzine god, I was active in fandom and as a pro for 25 years before I even heard mention of his name, and even most of the remaining reasonable liberals think he’s a festering pile of worm-ridden maggot shit.
Hence, I don’t bother going to his shithole website.
When he dies from a heart attack while watching MLP bondage porn, I will take no notice at all.
This is how a gentleman excoriates a public and private toxic waste hazard. He is polite even to those who annoy him, wishing them success but no mercy for those with diseased excretions that willingly and narcissisticly contaminate the genre.
feculent – One of the best things about good writers is that they help to expand one’s vocabulary. Thanks ILOH.
Feculent is an adjective: stanky bog-like, or the kind of thing found in the mire.
As “China Mike is a feculent staph infected posture”
Great word.
Pustule. Sigh.
I thought you meant ‘poser’. (Poseur for camestros)
Oooh! Good save!
Yeah… that is what I meant
Ho. Lee. Crap.
I just laughed in my kids Dr office at the Pennywise shoe comment.
*Reminder Note To Self – DO NOT EVER piss off the ILOH.
“Yub, yub motherfucker ” will be my go to for along time now.
Think it’ll be a lot of people’s go to.
Okay, I have to say I am getting very offended by Larry’s reference to Glyer dragging his name around as Glyer having “a whore mouth”.
This is bullshit.
A whore gives good value for the money you pay her, and provides the service promised. As the same cannot be said of Glyer, this reference is deeply insulting to honest whores.
And when you finish, she goes away. Unlike Glyer.
Hey, TheWriterInBlack! You know how many times I’ve shared your “Nobody wants to take your guns” post?
A lot. Especially lately. Here, I’ll do it again! A lot plus one!
https://thewriterinblack.com/2017/05/17/nobody-wants-to-take-your-guns-2/
Mildly amusing: a team of debate students I know were complaining about having to write the 1AC for the “2nd Amendment should be repealed” because they couldn’t find any references that met the evidentiary requirements of the program.
I sent the negative team to the Monster Hunter Files.
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Fox weighs in: https://richardfoxauthor.com/if-someone-asks-you-to-remove-pirated-stories-and-you-refuse-youre-wrong-all-stop/?fbclid=IwAR3vpvnuBsU67n–Vj355QahBthlIQs9lyIIBn_jO6MeE5cDKdr6ZoH49IM
OOOH! With screen shots! Very nice.
>>pops more popcorn
The screen shots are really telling. No wonder Glyer has slunk away.
Ok, so now I have a problem – which of Mr. Fox’s books should I start with?
Richard Fox posted this handy guide that shows his suggested reading order https://richardfoxauthor.com/ember-war-universe-suggested-reading-order/
Damn it! My to-read list is never going to get shorter, is it?
They never do. Give up and just embrace the backlog.
Reading and collecting books are two different hobbies.
If it does, you’re doing something wrong.
With any luck…….no.
Well, it might temporarily get one or two books shorter, but that’s about it.
That’s one positive thing he’ll get from this, I hadn’t heard of him before but I just bought the first in that series.
It seems I have that same problem. I now want to read his work. lol
I’d suggest Iron Dragoons. Ember War is decent, but Fox really comes into his own with Iron Dragoons. Good action, and very much in the Heinlein and Ringo “why we fight” milSF vein–but without their particular peculiarities.
I just bought Albion Lost, the first book of The Exiled Fleet. It’s pretty good so far.
Start with the Ember Wars series, and just keep reading. Truly excellent sci-fi.
“…who creates nothing of value, but who makes himself feel important by tearing down people who do create things.”
Sounds like Heinlein’s definition of a critic.
//. Richard posted the link to a private closed forum only readable by SFWA members//
The SWFA page was a public page. The archive is still there if anybody doubts that.
But even if this new claim from Fox was true HE KNEW THAT THE LINK WAS PUBLIC *months* ago. I know that because I had that link on my website (which he also said was ‘piracy’ and which I took down as a consequence) and the source was pointed out to him back then.
Fox is lying.
Using DMCA takedown notices as harassment (and the timing & the connection with your own pre-Dragon Award rants helps demonstrate that that’s what Fox was doing) is a new low even for you Larry.
Weak, Cameltoe. Richard can defend himself. He told me that he posted it to the private, members only forum, and does not know who put it on SFWA’s public page, nor who made the Google Drive. The link being public by someone else afterwards is irrelevant obfuscation to the point that Glyer got told to take the pirated stuff it off his site, and didn’t do so. I mean, you’re a fucking twit, but you still had the sense to do that.
Your last sentence is nonsensical gibberish.
– DMCA take downs got used by Richard when the asshole in question put the link back up and refused to remove it because he’s a dick.
– Since he sent the notice only after Glyer acted like an entitled shit heel, Richard must be some sort of mastermind to have planned that in advance.
– I have no clue what you mean by my pre-Dragon Award rants having any connection to that. I mocked Glyer for getting butt hurt that my fans had fun wrong when I got kicked off of Facebook, and then the next day mocked him for his stupid fans bragging about reporting me to Facebook.
All these claims of “harassment” from Glyer could be easily avoided if he just learned to keep authors’ names out of his whore mouth. Same way he couldn’t be “harassed” with DMCA notices if he’d just done the decent thing and taken the link down when asked by the content owner.
So you can fuck right off.
He knew of the Google Drive document in FEBRUARY and did nothing about it. Kind of weird for somebody worried about “piracy”. He says “Putting up links to pirated material is piracy”, that is the essence of his argument. He knew that a publically accessible copy of his story was on Google Drive, at least by February 27 – possibly earlier considering he thought a link to that public document was available on the SWFA forums.
Simple question: was the Google Drive version a pirated copy or not? If it was, why did he leave it up? If it wasn’t why is he claiming it was piracy?
// I have no clue what you mean by my pre-Dragon Award rants having any connection to that. //
Fox’s out-of-nowhere complaint followed one of your rants and you referenced it in a following rant.
That’s a stupid straw to grasp at. I get pirated all the time but don’t bother with most of them because it is a time suck. But if a site run by somebody I despise puts up a pirate link, and this site exists to fuck over writers, then you are damn right I’m going to tell them to remove it. As is my right, as it is Richard’s, as it is any other author’s.
So your simple question if bullshit. According to what Richard just wrote on his blog, it was a pirated copy. As to when he got around to knocking it down, that’s his business. It’s his time to spend. And unlike useless fucking parasites like you, he’s busy creating things.
Now, having this pirate link hosted by a fucking scumbag probably moved the timeline up a bit. AND he didn’t bother with the DMCA (like most authors) until AFTER Glyer was a dishonest, entitled shit heel about it.
So fuck you and your bullshit gas lighting excuses. You sound like one of those assholes who say old rape accusations don’t count because they didn’t come forward during whatever arbitrary time frame you made up. The Google Drive was pirated, when he got around to taking it down is his business.
Your last bit remains meaningless irrelevant gibberish. It wasn’t an out of nowhere complaint. He was doing his own thing. I was doing my own thing. I posted about how Glyer was fucking scum, and he responded with a By The Way here is another example of how Glyer is fucking scum
There was another example in that same post, offered by another different writer, about Glyer being fucking scum too. Where he pretended to be someone else but he was stupid and did it from his regular IP. So was that “out of nowhere” too? Or is Glyer just consistently a fucking scumbag, so whenever one of us brings him up, lots of people have stories to share?
I know which one my money is on.
Yub yub, motherfucker.
“// I have no clue what you mean by my pre-Dragon Award rants having any connection to that. //
Fox’s out-of-nowhere complaint followed one of your rants and you referenced it in a following rant.”
Shite.
I get it.
These prolapsed assholes think that Larry controls everyone by some kind of mind ray from atop Yard Moose Mountain.
Obviously that can be the only way that works.
Some other author makes a blog post about the shit stains around the same time frame that Larry does, so obviously Larry is the ring leader controlling what everyone posts with his patented Manatee Mind Control Ray.
After all, a mountain is only one step away from a volcano lair.
Yub, and I can’t stress this enough, yub.
//I get pirated all the time but don’t bother with most of them because it is a time suck.//
Heck even I get pirated. What I don’t do is only police random links to the same pirated material. Heck, the Google Drive version didn’t disappear until *after* Fox had shared his emails to Mike Glyer with Jon Del Arroz.
Funny that.
//According to what Richard just wrote on his blog, it was a pirated copy.//
Somebody pirated a manuscript version of his story for the purpose of posting it on a SWFA forum to promote his Nebula Award campaign? I mean, that is not what I would call typical pirate behaviour.
//The Google Drive was pirated, when he got around to taking it down is his business. //
Sure. Fox can do what he likes and the rest of us can look at what he does and compare it with the facts and his own claims and point out that he’s lying.
There is no lie, you cunt. You’ve come up with your narrative, and now you’re going to keep on repeating it. The thing is, everybody here knows you are disingenuous trash. And unlike Glyer, I don’t delete comments that disagree, so everybody here is free to examine your argument… So they can see how full of shit you are.
And the yub yub line was hilarious when I did it. Get your own material, scrub. 😀
Up next, don’t lie. Nobody has ever pirated you. Nobody cares about you and you are incredibly boring. That was probably your mom trying to make you feel better.
Your next bit is a conspiracy theory that requires a bunch of authors who don’t know each other very well, a couple of whom don’t actually like each other much, to be working in cahoots, in the hopes of getting Glyer to act like an asshole by hosting pirate links, so that Richard could harass him with a take down notice. That’s awesome. I’ve also got more evidence that you were pirated by your mom than that.
Your next, line… That was some pathetic mealy mouthed twisting of the words. No, you dipshit, let’s untwist those words. Somebody, without permission, put up a copy of a story that the author had intended only for a private, members only forum’s use. This became an issue to the author when a fucking scumbag he doesn’t like used that link. It does not matter if it is standard pirate behavior. It does not matter what the pirate’s original intent was. By legal definition, the IP holder didn’t give permission to use. Period dot fucking bingo. And no matter how much you try to read people’s minds to make excuses, it’s pretty painfully obvious you’re full of shit.
People like you are the reason that throughout history most cultures allowed for some form of dueling.
// Simple question: was the Google Drive version a pirated copy or not? If it was, why did he leave it up? If it wasn’t why is he claiming it was piracy? //
Simple answer: it. does. not. matter.
HE is the copyright holder. If he says that person A can distribute it and person B can not, well that’s what has to happen.
Now I tend to think that person A was never entitled to distribute it … but, again, that does not matter to whether China Mike can or not.
He explained exactly why it was pirated in this very thread you’re replying to CamelToe Numbuts.
They’re exactly like movie screeners that are supposed to be for Academy use only.
He has every right to flag the content as pirated when accessed by non-voting members (the public at large) when they’re intended only for the voting body.
And that’s exactly what he did.
It’s really not that hard to wrap your head around.
Did your parents drop you for sport?
OUCH. I’d say th’ yahoo y’were talking to will just keep poutin’. Not listening to a damn word y’were saying.
And y’folks are absolutely right. No one belongs takin’ a writer’s work, and if someone does, they pay for doin’ it.
No point wasting more air (than y’have to) on some jackass who isn’t gonna listen.
Hey, dickweasel! It doesn’t matter when Richard Fox told that fat sack of pig shit Glyer to remove a link to HIS property from his foul site. He doesn’t want someone who obviously hates him distributing his property for free, as if he somehow has a fucking entitlement.
If you understood the concept of property or respected it, you would see that. But instead you troll this site, and weigh in because you love the beating Larry administers like a weird, flabby, pasty fat guy loves to get flogged by a leather-clad hooker.
Why don’t you crawl back to your hole and fap away with your anus lickers. No one is buying your shit here.
This is what I call getting liver-punched by words.
Is his screen name actually Camel Estrus Flapdung?
Or did I misread Cumdumpster Faggotbum?
China Mike really experienced China Syndrome there, huh?
I’d hope he’d actually melt down physically instead of merely emotionally, but the toxic sludge and offal his greasy corpse would leave behind would create a massive Supergund site that would more than likely result in America creating a Chernobyl-style exclusion zone. Probably not a good thing.
I thought China Mike lived somewhere in southern California, L.A. area. So what would be the real loss if it was excluded from the rest of America???????
A fair point….
Betamax donkey porn is better. But no format could improve China Mike.
I’m wondering — was John Ringo thinking of Glyer, when he made up that Santa Claus-looking pimp in Choosers Of The Slain? The one Mike bought Oksana from. Did John know about Glyer back in 2006?
Uh, I don’t think that’s gravy.
(Put that in the Toy Story Pig’s voice, by John Ratzenberger)
Oh… Oh… You obviously hit a nerve when Cameltoe crawls out from under his rock down in Australia. I guess he didn’t have any students to try to ‘lord’ his knowledge over… Piracy is piracy, a private link in a closed group that is suddenly made public IS well within the definition of digital piracy.
Wait… Cameltoe is a teacher? Holy shit. Those poor kids.
I’m not a teacher. OldNFO is getting confused by a different friend of yours, Brad Torgersen, and his erroneous claim that I was a philosophy professor in Queensland.
Funny how so many of your friends keep making up grandiose claims that turn out to be…well I’ll be polite and just say extraordinarily wrong. 🙂
Then who the fuck are you, anonymous internet pussy?
Naw. I’m gonna go ahead and trust Brad and Jim on this one. I don’t even know who they said you are, but you’re a lying sack of shit, so…
I’m a nobody with a cat. I’ve explained that.
Uh huh… So, somebody says they know who you really are (by whatever means they discovered this, I do not know). You have absolutely zero evidence to offer to the contrary except your word, except we’ve already established you are a fucking liar, who twists everything. So I’m inclined to believe Jim. Not you.
Those poor kids.
But you are right about one thing. You are a nobody. I’m not sure about the cat however.
He’s an academic of some kind, at least.
I was just about to suggest that Camel Fleppoton has to have a cat. There’s no way he doesn’t have a cat.
Sure enough.
Don’t get me wrong, I like cats. It’s just more proof of a hilarious stereotype.
When Caramel eventually dies alone, his cat will eat his eyeballs. Right now, the cat is looking at him, thinking “soon”, licking its chops.
Nobody actually cares who you are. We all know you’re here for the validation. After this, you can run back to your Geocities page or whatever and write about how stunning and brave you are for standing up to the bad man. Your dozen or so NPC readers will tell you you’re brave.
Really, though, being acknowledged by Larry is a big deal for you. I suspect this gives you sense of purpose. For him, to paraphrase the late Raul Julia (as M. Bison), “it was Monday”.
Anyway, you guys got what you wanted, did you not? All those bad puppies went away, and the Silver Dildo belongs to your tribe once again. It’s a gender studies participation trophy for people who whine about their pronouns and their intersectionalities. They can turn in hot garbage knowing that if they meet certain racial or sexual purity standards, they can win.
The bad people all went away, leaving you to do what you will, yet here you are, begging for their attention. You miss it, don’t you? You miss the drama. A few seasons of arguing on the internet was your Battle of Stalingrad and you miss it.
Besides, without that external boogeyman, you guys start to turn on each other. You have to know that sooner or later, you’ll say something that offends the thought police, and the only way you will avoid being un-personed is to publicly prostrate yourself and beg forgiveness. When this happens, if any of us even notice, we’ll giggle at you.
That poor sorrowful cat. I bet it meows at you not for food but for pity.
This response is a masterpiece. It should be framed and displayed in the Smithsonian or the Louvre.
It wasn’t ‘suddenly’ made public. It was public months ago on a page promoting Richard Fox, which he could have taken down at *any point* even before I posted the link in February. Fox knew about the link as early as February 27 and knew that it was a public link and knew that the link was on a SWFA page promoting his work.
And I already explained why the time period was totally irrelevant. Strangely enough, for me, when my name/work appears on the page of a scumbag, the clock starts to tick. So try again, you predictable fuck.
You might be confusing ‘explained’ with ‘stated’. The time period is relevant to Fox’s motives and why he was making false claims of piracy. We already know those claims were false, the question is why Fox would make such claims.
Nope. He explained. You not liking the explanation does not make it go away. It just makes you look like a pedantic straw-grasper.
The claims weren’t false either. Again, you not liking reality does not invalidate it. It just makes you a moron.
We’ve already been over all this. You are boring me.
Um … Camelstraw Fapatron, is it? You obviously have no clue how copyright works. There is nothing false about the piracy charge. How about this … ‘splain to us if you can, just how that charge is false?
Camestros Felapton: ” We already know those claims were false”
This statement is ludicrously dishonest. You are subscribing to a theory of piracy where it is NOT piracy if the FIRST person to have the material is authorized to have it. The problem is that this describes ALL piracy. In basically EVERY case of piracy in all recorded history the FIRST person had a licensed copy and was authorized to have it. This does not make it legit when that person turns around and gives copies to a bunch of other people.
Since you obviously need examples on the level that a 5 year old child can understand I will provide you with one.
Suppose I purchase a movie. I have a license to that copy of the movie. It is mine now. I have not pirated anything. Now suppose I rip the dvd and put the file up on an ftp server for my friends who have NOT paid for it. Is that piracy? Hopefully even you can see that it is. Your entire argument is that Fox provided AUTHORIZED copies to SOME people as part of an awards process, and then some of those people provided UNAUTHORIZED access to that copy to additional people without Fox’s permission, and you are claiming that this is NOT piracy. That literally is the DEFINITION of piracy. ALL piracy follows that model where one person has authorized access and then turns around and gives access to a bunch of people that are NOT authorized. That is what piracy is all about. The fact that the first person to get it was authorized to have it does not mean it isn’t piracy. You are an idiot or a liar if you claim that it does.
Since believing this strange theory of piracy would require someone to have an IQ in the single digits I can only conclude that you are lying.
Excellent point, Jason.
//This statement is ludicrously dishonest. You are subscribing to a theory of piracy where it is NOT piracy if the FIRST person to have the material is authorized to have it.//
No, I’m subscribing to a theory of piracy where it is NOT piracy when a copyright holder makes or authorizes their copyright material publicly available on the web. Which is what happened here. Richard Fox has *since* claimed that it wasn’t his intent to do so.
He was naturally entitled to take down any such material whenever he wanted it taken down but until he did so, links to that material were not piracy.
I suspect people haven’t read carefully that Quora piece Richard Fox linked to above.
For example, Larry has a link in his post above to an archive copy of a web page. Larry’s link is NOT piracy, nor is he hosting pirated content. Can the copyright holder object to the material being hosted on the Archive site? Yes. Would that then make Larry’s link piracy? Still no.
Now, if you were running a website for the purpose of making pirated content easier to find you may well be sailing into legal hot water, but in the example under discussion, no.
‘You’re being pedantic’ – yes, yes I am.
You aren’t just pedantic. You are a total dipshit, and your argument is garbage that would only fool the dumbest of the dumb.
1. The copyright holder authorized it on the web for one place.
2. A different place (File 770) put up that link.
3. The copyright holder said he did not want it there, and told File 770 to remove it.
4. They failed to do so.
Period dot fucking bingo, you worthless piece of shit.
I do have an archive link to a public blog post above. It is not a copyrighted piece of fiction. If it was, and the owner of said property told me to remove it, then I would do so. As would any decent human being… Which is kind of the point, because Glyer is not a decent human being.
In Richard’s case, it was a copyrighted piece of work, he owned it, and he did not grant permission for it to be there. Again, fuck you, you disingenuous worm-tongued trash.
You keep bringing up original intent, and then pretending to be a fortune telling mind reader. That’s all irrelevant. Because the property owner clarified his intent, and the person hosting that property ignored it. What happened before does not matter. What happens after the property owner defends his IP does.
Also, I seem to recall I very specifically said that I was sick of your boring, repetitive bullshit and that if you posted to this thread again I was going to block you from commenting. I don’t mind debate, but I do mind a dumbfuck wasting my time for several days repeating the same tired arguments over and over again.
Since you can’t take a hint… oh well. Bye.
Let me try analogy, here.
If I let a guy I met at karaoke bunk at my place, and three weeks later, his buddy needs a place to sleep off his beer, am I required to let him crash at my place? After all, I must be willing. I allowed his friend to do so
No. I say who can and cannot, and when and when not.
My property, my decision.
China Mike make ox look like genius.
Ox not genius.
Ox slow.
The Ox is slow, but the earth is patient ~ Quigly Down Under
High Road to China, not Quigly
That’s a movie I need to see again. One of Mr. Selleck’s under-appreciated films.
I can’t imagine how any response other than “oops, thought that was public” and taking the link down seems right to anyone.
People can understand that and not hold it against someone (though like Fox said on his blog, actually checking with the copyright holder is okay, too).
SFWA seems like an untrustworthy actor though, don’t they? I wouldn’t post a single thing on any private forum related to them that I didn’t want shouted from the rooftops.
//I can’t imagine how any response other than “oops, thought that was public” and taking the link down seems right to anyone.//
Which is what I did back in February with the link, which is when the source of the link was pointed out to Richard Fox. It is also what Mike Glyer did *initially* but when confronted with claims by Fox that Mike had been ‘stealing’ etc and discovered that Fox already *KNEW* that the link, far from being a ‘pirate’ copy was a promotional copy freely available on a public SWFA page dedicate to promoting Fox, he confronted Fox about his misleading claims.
You’ll note that Fox can’t explain any of that. Nor why he immediately went to Jon Del Arroz of all people. He manifestly did not care about this supposed ‘pirate’ copy of his work, which only vanished days after all that.
BZZZ. Wrong answer, dipshit.
You did do the right thing and take down the link when the content owner said he did not approve of you using it. That was the correct thing to do. But we’re not talking about you. We are talking about the other dumb ass parasite attached to fandom’s diseased hindquarters.
Fox did explain it. You not liking his answer does not mean it does not exist.
I got to see the entire email chain. Glyer did take it down, but Fox talked about it being a pirate link from the get go. Glyer pulled it, but was all butt hurt and defensive about it. Glyer then put it back up because his giant fat ego couldn’t handle having an author stand up to him. Then he got the take down notice. Richard must have been some kind of wizard to plan out all that future harassment.
//Wrong answer, dipshit. //
Oh no! I can’t wait to see what I got wong!
//Fox talked about it being a pirate link from the get go.//
Correct but not at odds with what I said and also demonstrates that Fox was *lying*. He knew that the link was not to a pirate site but to a Google Drive document that had been used to promote his work for the Nebula award.
It was when Mike discovered that Fox was *lying* that matters changed. But as you say, you’ve read the whole email chain so you already knew that. 🙂
//Richard must have been some kind of wizard to plan out all that future harassment.//
I’m certain that Richard is not a wizard nor a rocket scientist. It doesn’t require much planning or brilliance, just a willingness to lie.
I’m curious, are you really as dense as lead, or are you being intentionally ignorant? Even if someone reads your gibberish and assumes it to be accurate, your conspiracy theory is still fucking nonsense. I’d point out that you are an oozing rectal fistula, but that is an insult to fistulas everywhere. Cameltoe McButtPlug is a mendoucheous twatwaffle. Period. Full stop.
You are literally defending piracy. Consider how far down the rabbit hole of hate you have to be to do this.
You’re no longer even thinking. You’re on autopilot. This person good. This person bad.
You’re reasoning is that you don’t like the calendar. You don’t approve of when the author decided to defend his intellectual property. But that’s not your decision. That decision belongs to the author, and you know that decision belongs to the author.
Still, you choose to defend piracy. Take a long look at yourself. Divorce yourself from your tribal mentality, if only for a moment, and really consider the situation. You are defending piracy, and there is no excuse for that.
// Correct but not at odds with what I said and also demonstrates that Fox was *lying*. He knew that the link was not to a pirate site but to a Google Drive document that had been used to promote his work for the Nebula award. //
Really? And … because it’s on a google site it’s somehow _not_ a pirate link? How does that work, really?
Doesn’t require too much intelligence to be a sanctimonious jackass either, friend. Not stoppin’ you from doin’ it, certainly.
Y’keep tryin’t egg on these folks and they’re not reacting th’way y’want them to. So you’re gettin’ upset. Kinda like a little kid who got told they can’t do what they want.
“You’ll note that Fox can’t explain any of that.”
You’ll note that it doesn’t matter what he explains or not to your satisfaction or not.
It’s simple. “Hey, take that down.” “Oops, sorry. It’s down.”
SFWA seems like an untrustworthy actor though, don’t they? I wouldn’t post a single thing on any private forum related to them that I didn’t want shouted from the rooftops.
It does sound like a circus, doesn’t it? People sharing an author’s work outside of the forum? That’s despicable.
As for Glyer- all he had to do was take it down. That’s it. And leave it down. Regardless of who else was ALSO pirating the work.
“But he’s doing it too!” is the kind of defense you see in kindergarten. Doesn’t matter who else threw rocks at the puppy, Mikey, you got caught doing it, you still need to stop.
“It is also what Mike Glyer did *initially* but when confronted with claims by Fox that Mike had been ‘stealing’ etc and discovered that Fox already *KNEW* that the link, far from being a ‘pirate’ copy was a promotional copy freely available on a public SWFA page…”
So SFWA as an organization is making authors’ published work publicly available on a normal, ongoing, and routine basis?
I think this is important.
If that’s Glyer’s excuse, if he’s passing the buck, and his apologist is passing the buck up the line, that buck goes to SFWA itself.
//correia45: And the yub yub line was hilarious when I did it. Get your own material, scrub. ????//
No, seriously. Mine was much funnier. I can tell by how much I laughed 🙂
//Up next, don’t lie. Nobody has ever pirated you.//
Absurd as it may seem, yes I have actually been pirated. I assume it was part of a money-laundering scheme because my non-pirate version was free and the pirate version was several dollars on the Apple Store.
//Your next bit is a conspiracy theory that requires a bunch of authors who don’t know each other very well, a couple of whom don’t actually like each other much, to be working in cahoots, in the hopes of getting Glyer to act like an asshole by hosting pirate links, so that Richard could harass him with a take down notice. //
Conspiracy? No, it just requires Fox to behave badly and know that you are gullible enough to post anything that you think will make Mike Glyer look bad and that Jon Del Arroz is even less discerning. No coordination is required other than Fox typing stuff.
//Somebody, without permission, put up a copy of a story that the author had intended only for a private, members only forum’s use. //
Months ago. And Fox knew about this months ago and knew that it was PUBLIC months ago and knew that it was on a public SFWA page promoting his work MONTHS ago and that it looked like (because let’s face it, it probably was) a legitimate copy put there by the author or his publisher MONTHS ago. Knowing that he did precisely NOTHING because he was so worried about piracy and then only complains about a LINK to this pirated version when you were on one of your Two Minute Hate sprees. Even then, he did nothing about any of that aside from complain to you and JDA until the SFWA got involved.
Let’s ignore your initial lines, because it’s a fucking pathetic attempt at witty banter. I wish it would sink in through your thick skull that I despise you. I think you are fucking scum. You are trash. I would gleefully piss on you if you were on fire. So there is no need to engage in false civility. You aren’t funny. You’re annoying and pathetic. So let’s just get to the meat of the matter and skip your boring attempts at witty repartee.
You just described a conspiracy, dipshit. So of course I’m using the word conspiracy.
You don’t need to be gullible to automatically assume the worst about Mike Glyer, you just need to have been paying some modicum of attention.
family
Also, dipshit, you are forgetting that I read the email chain last night. I saw Glyer acting exactly like Glyer always acts. He’s as predictable as you are.
As for me posting anything that makes Glyer look bad, for a man who is so in love with timelines you are shit at them whenever it is convenient. You are forgetting the main thing here, which is that Glyer needs to keep my name out of his whore mouth. I usually only talk about him when he posts about me on his trashy gossip column. I have a deep and abiding personal hatred for the man due to all the problems his band of psychopaths inflicted upon me and my family and friends. So fuck Glyer and fuck you. I reserve the right to mock and insult him whenever he puts my name in his whore mouth. So look at the posts in question, and what were they about? Me responding to Glyer putting my name in his whore mouth.
You, I don’t know what the fuck you do. Because I don’t think I’ve ever actually looked at your shitty little blog as far as I can recall. I only deal with you when your dumb ass shows up here to spout off some gibberish.
Your last paragraph whining about the calendar has already been explained repeatedly. Unlike you, I’m popular, so I get pirated constantly. I usually don’t worry about those either. But rest assured when my work appears on the page of a man who I loathe, then I will take action. I’m assuming I’m not alone. Again, you would probably understand this if you had ever created anything of value. But when a creator says you don’t have permission to have his property on your page, that’s all there is to it.
Also, Richard didn’t complain to me. He put up one post, in a Facebook thread, ON TOPIC, and said topic was about how Mike Glyer is a fucking scumbag. He didn’t seek me out. He didn’t send me any juicy gossip. It was a normal human conversation involving hundreds of people, and it’s still right fucking there on Facebook if you care to go look at it.
I don’t have a two minute hate for Glyer. My hate for Glyer is eternal. 😀
You keep harping on the “he knew (something) months ago” . And we disagree on what he knew. For the record his work was knowingly shared on an _internal_ SFWA site for access by SFWA members. This he knew month’s ago. Some twerp copied it to a public google doc. This … I do not know when he knew, afaik it was when he saw the link from Glyer. But … even if he knew about the google doc months ago … it does not matter. There is nothing in copyright law that makes this matter. What the hell are you smoking down there that you think it does? Glyer posted a link to a pirated copy of the work. Under the DMCA, that link itself is piracy. Nothing false about the claim.
If you want to stop making bald assertions and attempt to back them up with some references, go for it. Otherwise admit you know nothing of the subject and slink away.
// It just makes you look like a pedantic straw-grasper. //
OK I’ll own that one.
Good. Then get the fuck off my page, twerp.
OK. I’ve got to go to work now. It’s raining here in Sydney and I’ve an awfully long commute if I have to somehow get to Queensland.
You are mistaking me for Brad or Jim. Personally I don’t give a fuck who you are or where you live. I judge you based upon the content of your ideas, and those are shit. I simply enjoy destroying pathetic straw-grasping bullshit and making you look like a fool for the audience.
But once you get repetitive, you become boring, so fuck off. Seriously, I don’t know why you keep coming back. The only reason I haven’t banned your tiresome ass is a vague sense of principle to (unlike Glyer) let people debate freely. He’s a chickenshit who deletes dissenting opinions. But I am a little jealous of him, because if I blocked you, then I wouldn’t have to listen to you anymore. And you are SO BORING.
Nobody cares, you sack of shit.
If you live in Sydney, Australia, why does your biography on your blog (linked to by clicking on your username) state that you “currently reside in Felapton Towers, Bortsworth, England”?
Incidentally, how come no map that I can find published anywhere on the internet lists “Bortsworth, England” as a real place?
Are you trying to say “Bosworth”? Because that’s not the name of a town. Anyone with a modicum of knowledge about English history will recognize the name from the Battle of Bosworth Field (22 August 1485) but the nearest town to the battlefield is now named Market Bosworth… and by “now” I mean since the 16th Century.
Residents of Market Bosworth will refer to it as Bosworth colloquially, but not when listing their address.
They also spell it correctly.
I know a few people who can track him to source. Even if he’s using public wifi or a remote host.
I also know some people in Sydney, if that’s actually where he is.
It’s irrelevant to me, but if anyone wants to find him, I can connect you to the right people.
Another excellent beating with the tetsubo Larry.
I do have to wonder though if Mikey is starting to look forward to the beatings. He certainly seems to be inviting them now.
“He turns around, there’s the Krasnovian Bear standing there with a big smirk on his face. He looks down at Pinelander Camestros and says, ”You’re not in this for the hunting are you?”
for some reason the old bear hunter joke comes to mind…
I live in Pineland. Please do not associate such filth with Pineland.
Speaker, I suspect that I’m your neighbor. I’m not sure how that works and all but it’s just this *feeling* that is hard to shake that in all this monkey business that I can’t keep straight, I’m probably from Pineland.
I try to say something about the glorious Krasnovian whatever and it just doesn’t feel quite right.
Ah, Mike Glyer. The only man in creation whose right hand has a “Me Too” story.
I wish I could give a huge thumbs-up for this. I nearly choked on my lunch. Well done.
That’s actually pretty good.
Well played, salesman. Well played.
Sigh. Larry, apparently CamelToe couldn’t keep you name out of HIS whore mouth
https://camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/
Yawn. I’m not even gonna look.
Potentially libelous headline there.
Camelpuss flat-out said Fox posted the story publicly.
When Fox said, “No, I posted in a private forum for SFWA members only. Someone must have copied it and put it on a public Google Docs, and someone else put it in the public SFWA page. Without my knowledge or permission.”
Fappington replied, “So, you DID post it publicly then?”
And then tried to argue a public link – any public link – means it’s free for the taking. And since Fox didn’t do anything about it back in February, it’s not Piracy.
What an obtuse shitbird.
That’s what it’s sounding like… some helper-bird at SFWA added the story to the public places.
Do they do this routinely for everyone? Maybe they do. Maybe most authors don’t mind. Maybe most authors never realize that someone changed access to what they thought was only available to members.
What I don’t see and can’t imagine is how someone decides that this is an excuse not to say “Ooops, sorry.” and take it down.
the “helper birds” screen name was “Richard Fox”.
And you base this upon what evidence, exactly?
(Other than you like the taste of the cottage cheese that leaks from Glyer’s man boobs, obviously)
I think it’s pretty clear that CF is engaging in a bit of partisanship.
Ignore the name calling and back and forth and just lay out the facts.
Fox had made available his work to SFWA- a supposedly PRIVATE organization.
SFWA made his work public via Google docs. (Holy crap, are you serious, SFWA??)
Several people linked to his work. One of them was CF. One of them was China Mike. There was possibly a third party that also linked to the work.
LINKING TO THE WORK WAS PIRACY. (See https://www.quora.com/If-I-share-a-link-to-a-pirated-book-on-my-website-will-it-be-illegal )
IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE LINKED TO THE PIRATED WORK. This is a fact that CF is determined to ignore. “He did the bad thing TOO!” is a pathetic excuse. It’s the sort of attempted misdirection you see in kindergarten.
Now, I’m going to be very generous here and assume that CF is smart enough to know how weak his excuses for Glyer are. This is CF defending someone’s actions because he doesn’t want that person to be wrong. What we’re witnessing here is CF deluding himself.
Camelhumper Flacciddick is treading dangerously close to libel here. I gotta agree with Mr. Chupik here.
What did he say? And do I need to sue him? Because that might actually be amusing for the discovery because then we can see if Brad and Jim are right about his secret identity. 😀
Oh. This should be good.
“Larry Correia Endorses Harassment using Fake DMCA takedown notices”
Stuff like this is the reason why he hides his identity online.
Hahahaha. 😀 Holy shit. That’s rich.
I’ve got to say, that asshole reached for the stars with that headline.
As always Larry, I’m more than happy to change any aspect of a post an individual feels is factually incorrect or sometimes not even that. What would you like the headline to say (no nicknames or profanities)?
You are such an unctuous scumbag that all you deserve is profanity.
As for the title, I don’t think the take down notice is fake. Your only evidence of that is your wishful thinking and straw grasping. So I’m not advocating for that, moron.
Also, I don’t need to play chickenshit harassment games. Unlike you cowards, hiding behind your fake names and fake civility, I just come out and say what I mean.
Though it is ironic that you fuckers are whining about harassment, since I just caught another 3 day Facebook ban as you assholes report everything I say as hate speech. Well, in that respect, it’s accurate. I do hate you people. I think you are lower than whale shit.
Now really, go away you boring ass twit.
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As expected, Cameltoe Flipflop claims I’m not answering his questions. Meanwhile, I’ve put up a comment on his little blog refuting his lies and he keeps it locked in moderation.
Seriously, Cameltoe, get an ounce of integrity. Here’s the post he won’t let see the light of day of the five relatives that visit his site and his many sock puppets:
File 770 won’t allow any comments that go against Glyer’s false narrative, Flipflopper has shown some integrity in the past and maybe he’ll keep it up.
Let’s walk back a bit. There were Google Drive files of my story, but they were not created by me, not did I make that story available to the public. They were there for Nebula consideration to SFWA members and no one else. Further, all those files have been removed for TOS violations, thank you Google.
The version this site shared back then was, and still, is pirated.
It really is amazing how people can be told over and over again that linking to pirated material is piracy, but their eyes just glaze over that fact and stick to their own realities. https://www.quora.com/If-I-share-a-link-to-a-pirated-book-on-my-website-will-it-be-illegal
Since Flipflop has been to my blog, he certainly saw the takedown notice from Google Drive showing that all the pirated files were removed. Amazing how he ignores those too.
Let me use small words so flipflip can understand:
1.) I own the copyright to that story.
2.) I did not create those Google Drive files or give anyone the right to distribute them.
3.) Sharing those files or those links is piracy.
4.) When I see anyone pirating my material, I take recourse (sorry, too big)–I tell the thief to stop.
5.) Flipflop did what he should’ve when I made my demand.
6.) China Mike decided he had the moral authority to keep pirating my work, and I submitted DCMA notices to make him stop. Defend Glyer. I dare you.
7.) You really have to twist yourself into a logic pretzel to believe I created Google Drive documents and then submitted DCMA notices against myself. If you believe that, there’s little that can be done for you. If you don’t believe that, then I’m not lying when I say the work is pirated. Choose.
@ Kat Goodwin The story was already published in an anthology when it was nominated. As are most nominated works. Having pirated copies out there when it is available for sale damages the commercial value of the story.
With some minor edits for language, your comment has been approved.
Also, to add a tiny bit more light into the discussion note that the Nebula reading list has been public since 2015: http://www.sfwa.org/2015/11/sfwa-releases-nebula-suggested-reading-list/
I can understand that you might not have been initially aware of this but you surely were aware that your promotional links were public since late feb/early march.
With some minor edits for language his comment has been approved?
Well, that’s mighty magnanimous from the wretched fucking shitbird who is–no matter how hard you spin it–defending piracy and telling the content creator he was asking for it because his dress was too short.
I would rather be obscene and direct than a disgusting, passive-aggressive, disingenuous, gas-lighting, punk bitch who has to engage in sophistry and word games. You are a coward and a fool. Get the fuck off my page, cur.
The most charitable explanation for Richard Fox is he didn’t know he was adding his work to a public reading list. The facts show that his works were on a public reading list right up until AFTER he complained about File 770.
Neither I nor Mike Glyer have defended piracy. Linking to documents Fox made public is not piracy. He had every right to withdraw those documents from public view but until he did so, linking to them was not in any sense piracy.
The legal definition of piracy says that it is piracy. And the link expounding on that has already been posted repeatedly. You have no leg to stand on. You have no moral foundation. Glyer is fucking scum. You are scum. You are defending shitty behavior. You do not get to claim the moral high ground. Everybody here can see through your bullshit, you tiresome maggot.
At no point, you pusillanimous jackdaw, did Mr. Fox make them *public*. He provided them in a closed forum for the use of Nebula voters. As has been pointed out numerous times, your catastrophic failure to understand, to the point even Baldrick believes you to be a clot, does not change that in any way, shape, or form. One would think you had the sense to know when you’re beaten and GO AWAY, but obviously not.
The legal definition of piracy does not say it is piracy Larry. If we linked to a pirated copy of Richard’s work then there *might* (and it’s ambiguous) be some liability. However, neither my blog nor File 770 linked to a pirated copy of Richard’s work. We both linked to a copy provided by Richard to the SFWA that was on the SFWA’s public Nebula Reading list. No file was hosted or copied by either my blog of File 770 and the links were from a site promoting Richard’s work with Richard’s co-operation. The only open question is whether Richard understood what he had done.
Incorrect. Link to the legal issues already provided. Your obfuscation is noted and has repeatedly been shot down. Your “but but but” is irrelevant, you oozing pustule.
– the content owner’s intent was made clear
– you were not authorized to host that content
– the author’s understanding earlier is irrelevant, because he made his intent clear
– All your other excuses, accusations, and conspiracy theories are irrelevant once the content owner made it clear he did not want his product there
– File 770 refused to honor the content owner’s wishes
– File 770 is fucking trash
– You are fucking trash
I don’t engage trash like you because I enjoy it. I can’t stand you. I do it so that the audience can hear how full of shit you are and decide for themselves.
Now shut the fuck up. I’m done with you. I’m tired of your repetitive mealy mouthed bullshit. Do not comment on this post again. That is not a request. That is me saying that I’ve let you make your argument. Now you are just annoying. Post here again and I will block your IP.
Oh yeah, and though I said Camelfucker VonDipshit Flappingtoodle the 3rd can’t post again without getting banned here. It’s my page so I can say whatever I want.
Which is why I’m going to talk about something else that proves what a lying sack of shit he is. Over on FB right now (I can still see it, I just can’t post) somebody posted a screen shot of Carneasada Fucktopus’ twitter account.
On said Twitter account, Cuntwaffle Flippyplunger is saying that it is interesting how on “right wing” author’s websites (hell, I voted for Gary Johnson) how people have “sexual fantasies” about him…
I shit you not. Screen shots over there.
And when called upon it, being a twisting, deceitful, liar, he supports this by claiming the fact people call him “cameltoe” is some weird sexual fetish thing…
Wow. No, you drooling idiot. It’s because your incredibly pretentious made up bullshit name is hard to spell, and also really fucking stupid. So it’s low hanging fruit to see how many absurd ways we can misspell it. Because we hate you, and want you to go away.
The closest thing to sexual in this post is Mike Glyer’s relationship with gravy.
And I’m going to be offline until later tonight, so Jack, if you see that worthless, bumbling, gutter-slut, Corpsicle Frogmorton post again, because he’s too dimwitted to listen, do me a favor and block his IP.
It will bring me much joy to do so…
FOX DID NOT MAKE THEM PUBLIC, someone else (probably at SFWA) did, without his knowledge or permission.
And even if he did have a public link – for his own reasons – he STILL CONTROLS THE PROPERTY and who is allowed to access it. He could allow Larry to link it on his site and that you may not, and your linking to it is STILL PIRACY.
Felapton is pretty deep into all this. How else did Glyer know about February? Felapton had to have told him, and he then decided that, despite your warning, it was OK to repost that link.
And he’s stupid to assert that he didn’t distribute your work. Linking to it *is* distributing it.
And he assumes, despite your declaration to the contrary, that you do know who made it SFWA public facing, so your accusations have no merit.
The link was published on File 770 in February before I published the same link. The link was from the PUBLIC Nebula Reading list. The files were contributed by Richard Fox – possibly, based on his recent statements, he didn’t understand that is what he was doing. However, that is what happened.
Her dress was too short. She was asking for it.
Fuck you, you unctuous scumbag, and your many stupid irrelevant excuses. The owner of the IP said he did not want his product hosted there, take it down. The timing is irrelevant. Your feelings are irrelevant. Fox’s intent was clear. And even if it wasn’t, still doesn’t matter. He owns it, he says take it down. Glyer has no leg to stand on, and no excuses. He’s just a piece of shit. And so are you. Now fuck off already.
//The owner of the IP said he did not want his product hosted there, take it down. //
Neither File 770 nor my blog were hosting his content. At no point did either of those two sites host his content.
You disingenuous fucking scumbag-
– you had the link (established)
– legally speaking hosting a link to a pirated site is the same as hosting the material (established)
– the content owner did not authorize that link (established)
– the content owner asked for the link to be removed (established)
– Glyer failed to do so (established)
There is nothing ambiguous about this. You have no argument to stand on. You are scum, defending scum. You are a fucking disgrace. If this is the hill you want to die on, then I wish you would hurry up and die already, because your fake obtuse shtick is tiresome.
“As expected, Cameltoe Flipflop claims I’m not answering his questions. Meanwhile, I’ve put up a comment on his little blog refuting his lies and he keeps it locked in moderation.”
This is a thing that floppy likes to do. He saves up negative comments and then makes entire posts out of them at a later date, naturally taking the comments out of context, cutting, splicing and etc.
He is the very model of the modern hyper-intellectual SJW moron. He has the morality of a… I can’t really think of an animal that comes close, actually. Animals do things because they’re made that way. For floppy this is a choice.
btw: a google drive account ought to be traceable to it’s owner. have you done this?
“Flipflopper has shown some integrity in the past and maybe he’ll keep it up.”
Don’t bet on it.
Camelfelch Flipflops has TOTALLY been pirated. “Pirating” is what he calls being pegged…
I presumed they meant that they were used as something warm and concave by a bunch of dudes in boats with AKs and bolos/pangas….
Darn you, I was about to eat something, and now my stomach has turned.
Oh Boy ! Two for the price of one !
Came here to see China Mike get the usual written beat down and up pops Camelsnot Fancypants and gets one too.
Thanks Larry, let no one say you aren’t value for money ????
Guardian was awesome by the way ????
Okay, Camelfelcher Floppynoodle is that special kind of stupid.
Well, that was entertaining, watching Larry and some guy I’ve never heard of but will be buying his books (psst, that’s you, Mr. Fox) verbally beat the shit out of some language-twisting idiot.
Is he a lawyer? He certainly comes off as one.
We aren’t all bad.
I wonder how long it will be before the SFSJWA retroactively ‘no awards’ authors and works that are problematic to the mob?
One would assume that such a thesaurus-owning individual as Larry would know that feculent is an adjective, not a noun.
Dumbasses gonna dumbass.
When Mike Glyer climbed out of the ooze, it became a noun (and made us all laugh). So fuck off, Grammar Cop. 😀
Plus, you’re an idiot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominalized_adjective
Try harder next time.
Also, dipshit, when you make up your fake info because you are too much of an anonymous internet pussy to post under your real name, using-
fuckyou@deadmonster.com
Shotamonsterintheass@hecriedhecried.com
is kinda backwards, since I got rich off of books about monster killing, so shooting monsters is how I paid off my house, dumbfuck. 😀
And part of a mountain. Don’t forget the mountain part.
I love to point this out to budding authors that ultimately, while awards are nice, fat paychecks are even better. And I use you as an example with a couple friends who are trying to break into writing, to help encourage them.
Well, of all the trolls that have graced this page, you certainly are the latest.
Melvin is cooler.
Melvin has the decency to be fictional.
Oh God, I laughed so hard. This rant is a work of art. Larry, should I ever stumble across you, I’ll cover you in beer. You name your poison, drinks are on me, mate.
…and now some motherfucker has reported the ILoH on Fecesbook and gotten him banned for 3 days because while piracy is bad, calling someone out for doing it is far worse.
To quote Lawdog, “This is my shocked face. Let me show it to you.” 😐
Ah Facebook, how we loathe thee. Let us count the ways…
Probably that pussy who used the fake e-mail address.
Call it what it is: Facebuchenwald. They want a Final Solution to WrongFans reading WrongBooks and having WrongFun. . . .
I get the feeling the name of the guilty party is very, very familiar.
Larry dont let these cum gargling gutter sluts get ya down. Your still as ruthless as ever sir
CF and Glyer are bullies. But not in the class of the “beat you up and take your lunch money” type. They’re too weak and cowardly to physically do that.
Instead, they’re the most despicable type, the junior high mean girl type bullies.
The two faced ones who pretend to be a friend in order to get more dirt to spread behind people’s back.
The ones that kiss up to the school staff in order to play Zampolit games with people they don’t like.
That both are doing this as adults is rather sad and pathetic.
Yup. The worst bullies I ever encountered weren’t the big guys: they were the small, weasely guys.
How do you explain CM then? He’s the size of a Volkswagen.
A Volkswagen who can’t let it go, too. He’s got another big long blurb out today about how he’s been Done Wrong.
Yes, and Camestros Felapton decided to libel Larry AGAIN in the comments:
“Fox was joining in with a hate campaign organised by Larry Correia that Correia had been pushing on his blog and Facebook. That campaign was so vitriolic that (according to Correia) it led to him being suspended by Facebook and led to multiple comments at his Facebook page being deleted by Facebook. Regardless of what action Mike took, Fox was going to claim his work had been stolen and Correia was going to claim Mike had pirated Fox. Even though I had removed the link on my blog swiftly, Fox still calls me a thief. The details of the Correia attack would be different but the basic claim would be the same. If Mike had removed the link PRIOR then Correia/Fox would have claimed it was a cover up. We have seen in the past Correia attack this blog because of comments THAT NEVER EXISTED, assuming there was a better course of action than calling Fox’s bluff is a mistake. Looking back I should have done exactly that when Fox played that game back in Feb/March – kept it there and challenged him to take down the files he had made public.”
The “hate campaign” was a JOKE about IMAGINARY COUNTRIES which as far as I know had nothing to do with Fox at all. Cammy is a liar. But the morons at Vile 770 won’t bother checking his claims, which is what he counts on.
The reason I got kicked off of Facebook this time wasn’t even for this post. It was for the night before after Jesse told me I was on 770 again, I tagged Richard to ask for the details and said “Mike Glyer needs to learn to keep my name out of his whore mouth”. 😀
You guys know the reason I haven’t banned Capwidsfds Fedlkjdskm yet? He’s such a painfully obvious liar that him trying to debate (in a place where he can’t go back and edit his comments) really helps convince the audience just how full of shit his side is.
They want to be Regina George, but they always get stuck trying to make “fetch” happen.
I flipping love you, Larry. Drive on!
Holy god. That thread was… well…
Put it this way: I don’t know whether it could truthfully be said of anyone that they had raised tedious, self-important bloviation and pointless online filibustering to the level of a true art form.
But if it could, if someone had done that… well, it sure as hell wasn’t Camelfellatio.
Rather, I’ve have to say that he came along, found the newly established Art of Being An Unbearable Internet Jackass, and, like any good left-wing. postmodern goofus, debased that Art back down to the dust, making it excruciatingly solipsistic, soul-crushingly vapid, and mind-numbingly nihilistic and awful.
Cameljockstrap is the Nickelback of internet douchebaggery.
And I don’t know how many times in high school (or whatever they call it down in Oz) this oozing cyst on a diseased cuntflap got his ass dragged out of debate club, half-drowned in a toilet, wedgied until his face turned blue, and then had the drooling, bleeding snot beaten out of him (my money, based on the kind of irritating wanker he is, would be “At least five”), but… however many times it was, it needed to be at least once more.
Maybe twice. Think of the children.
Cameltoe, torrent sites dont host the file either yet they are hit with piracy daily.
“Instead I’m going to expound about why Glyer should crawl back under his Lilly pad.”
A lilly pad is too clean for this scumbag. A cow pat is more his style.
He and Cammy share a troll bridge.
TL;DR
File 770, its owner and commentators remind us how not to behave.
If you’re talentless well there are 2 choices
1) Develop some not matter how rudimentary, work hard and improve it no matter how modest
2) If you refuse to cultivate any talent; stay quiet and don’t denigrate those who do however modest.
Detraction is deeply repulsive
xavier.
Posted on FB to 247 people on my friends list who had no idea who MG is, but do now.
Shared to F***book today. Also going to share to Twitter.
Making up funny names for this douchebag has become somewhat of a sport. But Cameldick Flaccidpants can’t seem to understand that we’re RIDICULING him rather than exhibiting anything sexually related when it comes to him. Honestly, I’d rather be sodomized with a rabid wombat than ever come anywhere near Corpsefucker Floppyshit. But I guess being a pathetic twat, Corpulent Fuckstick will take whatever contact he can get, even if it’s sexual nature is purely in his mind.
**its sexual nature.
Wish I could edit stupid errors.
Nicki, I expect Larry to come up with such creative wordsmithing, but your rant has me laughing so hard I now need to clean the coffee off of my keyboard!
Well Done!
Red flag laws cut both ways.
I can’t wait to see police searching the homes of New York SJWs for weapons, after making death threats on Twitter.
Unfortunately, this is where “police discretion” comes into play. One side gets rammed with the full dick of the law. The other? “We haven’t got the funding or manpower to pursue everything. We have to be selective.”
The burnt fools bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the fire . . .
http://archive.is/hoTLc
WOW!!!!
About all I can add to this is: “Don’t mince words, Larry. Tell us how you REALLY feel!!”
😀 😀 😀
How about Vachina Mike…
I like it. Though I certainly wish he and I didn’t share a first name.
Camelflap is saying that people have sexual fantasies about him on twitter well since we all know that leftists project what is in their own diseased minds I submit that he/she/it is in addition to being a petulant, narcissistic gutter dweller, is also a seriously sad masochist who comes here because the beings are free (and it is likely that the hookers in she/its town have standards that even they won’t cross) and when he has had enough here he goes to his little blog and to twitter to show just how big and brave a man/person/thing they are. Once done with that he/she/it retreats to the dungeon of shame ™ and there surrounded by pictures of their mother and every other woman in their life that spurned their love (a lot of them all still scarred by the occasion) relieves his tension then curling up into the fetal position cries and repeats I am so much smarter than them why do they not listen to me over and over.
seriously fecalchannel you need to get help if for no other reason than so your cat can sleep without pressing it’s butt to the wall every night.
“Yub yub, motherfucker.”
And…I lost it. Thank you for a solid 5 minutes of laughter. Now *there’s* an image.
Now if folks could only get over themselves re: the political leanings of authors and just enjoy. The. Damned. Books.
“…but since I was already beating Glyer like a pinata (but there is no candy when you break him open, only gravy comes out)…”
-Larry, it’s brown, but that sure ain’t gravy.
“Yub yub, motherfucker.”
-Appropriate, given China Mike’s approximately spherical shape gives him an uncanny resemblance to a giant moon-looking space station.
Also, I think in addition to Vultures, you owe an apology to, in no particular order, prolapsed anuses, various forms of feces, weasels, cancer, intestinal parasites, ducks, donkeys, and anything else you compared unfavorably to Mikey.
The decade I was a SFWA member (It’s a waste of time that literally furnishes nothing for your money that you can’t get cheaper elsewhere), I got to see the sausage-making that is the internal communications, where the conservatives, libertarians, and a few really old-school liberals act courteously, and the modern “liberals” are tantrum-throwing, name-calling children.
As far as the Nebulae, every year I’d get mailed to my house copies of books, magazines, or printed manuscripts of eligible works for me to review.
At no point did it occur to me I was being sent stuff I could print and distribute for my own profit.
Because I wasn’t.
I’d call Glyer a cunt, but he lacks the warmth and the depth.