I've run into this moron before…

There is this one blogger, Plowshare Forge, who likes to make fun of me. He’s this grouchy moron who’s stuck in this strange nostalgia for FDR, WPA, NRA (not the good one, the stupid price fixing one) and other assorted bits of 30s-40s social experimentation that didn’t work.


He’s tried to pick a fight before.




He even posted in the comments some long rambling troll thingy, where he kind of apologized, and then told a bunch of other posters to F off. What can I say? He’s a class act.


He used to go after MadOgre more, but apparently George got tired of beating him over the head. Since I’m a friend of George’s, and apparently I too am a NeoCon (a term so handy that it means whatever you want it to mean!) he likes to try and start stuff.


Now normally I don’t know about this, because WordPress only shows the top places I get hits from. His board is usually so pathetically far down the list that I don’t see him unless I click on the whole list. So if I’ve missed your other tirades, Plow, I do apologize. I thought you said you were done with me, but apparently not. I am an irresistible man.




Okay, it starts off ranting about “quasi-warriors”, then it goes into a long historical thing that he probably read off of Wikipedia. Here it is:


I’m in a mean mood today.


No. You are just dumb.

For the record, I haven’t been back to George Hill Land in over a month now and no tears have been shed.


By George especially.

This isn’t even specifically about him – rather the quasi-“warrior culture” that’s sprung up among the brainy neo-cons. The culture that the Ogre seems intent on pitching.

I really don’t know how I fit into this tirade later. I’m not a warrior. I don’t claim to be one, or to be part of any Bushido Code, other than the “Gun-Conservative-Leave me Alone-Culture”. I’m an accountant and an author, father and husband, and relatively normal guy. I happen to have taught defensive shooting on the side for many years, because I’m really good at it. Being able to defend yourself and have a fighting mindset isn’t any sort of warrior code, it is basic Darwinian evolution.


And seriously, what the hell is a NeoCon? The word has a different definition every time I turn around. If it is a Republican in the George Bush mold, I’m sure as hell am not a NeoCon.  But that doesn’t matter, because whatever it is, Plow has decided I’m one of them.

Just to be clear:
This is in no way intended to cast aspersions on anyone who was willing to at least show up for some sort of service to the country.
Even if you went to the recruiter and were declared 4F – or got as far as boot camp but got shitcanned for some undiagnosed medical problem, like my cousin – or wet your bed in boot camp even.


Plow. You’re an idiot. See below.

Hell, if you registered and lucked into a high number. I’m generous.
If you stepped up and put yourself in harm’s way for the greater good, you have my eternal respect and gratitude.

Rather, this is aimed at the
Viet Nam era, school deferment folks like our former (Praise God!) Vice President –


Gotta interject here, because we are SOOO much better off with Joe “Pathological Liar” Biden…


or Ted (who cares what you think?) Nugent – or Rush (poor, sore, little ass) Limbaugh. And all the baby neo-cons who are happy to enjoy the benefits of a volunteer military (read: They don’t have to go.) and who really support the war effort – except they don’t want to pay taxes. You know who you are, Larry, American Warmonger, Billy O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, et all.


So now I am in the same category as Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck. Cool.  I did not know that I had reached the big time. When do I get a show on FOX? Maybe Rush, Dick, the Nuge, and I will go play some golf together. I like Brother Glenn. One of these days maybe I’ll get to go on his show and pimp a novel. Then I will know that I’ve made it.


Keep in mind, gentle readers, that Plow also hates Mormons. (see previous post) Maybe me, George Hill, and Glenn Beck will get together at our next Secret World Domination and Puppy Drowning Convention and drink hot coco and talk smack about FDR behind Plow’s back.


I don’t know who American Warmonger is, but if Plow hates him, he’s probably an okay guy.

In all fairness, Larry does teach military personnel how to shoot for free but – aren’t soldiers already able to shoot?


Actually, no. If you knew half as much about the military as you think you do, you would realize that the shooting instruction for 90% of units is either insufficient or totally unrealistic. There is a giant cottage industry devoted to teaching shooting to deploying soldiers. If that bugs you, go take it up with Pat Rogers, Clint Smith, or Louie Awerbuck.


Besides, I wasn’t the one that taught tactical carbine or foreign small arms familiarization to soldiers. Those were taught by my organization’s more experienced instructors. (a SF LtCol, a SF CW5, and an SF 45B). I taught defensive pistol to regular people, and I taught the Utah Concealed Carry Class for free to soldiers. I figured that if our country can have them carry a gun overseas to protect my family, the least I could do was make it so they could carry a gun at home to protect theirs.


I donated thousands of dollars worth of my time while I was able to do so. It was an honor, and I would do it again in a heartbeat.


I’ve got a different job now, but strangely enough, I find myself working with the military again. I’m the new Finance Manager for a defense contractor. I’m helping keep F-16s in the sky. Which is pretty darn cool, except to somebody like Plow, because now I’m part of the dreaded Military Industrial Complex, so he’s got one more reason to hate me.

Send them some cookies, Larry – or join up. (Money Where Your Mouth Is” button to the left)


Actually, I tried that. (enlisting, not the cookies) They didn’t want me. I’m medically unsuitable.


But my self esteem isn’t really hung up on that, so I don’t think I ever posted about it here. Like I said, I’m not a warrior, and I don’t have to pretend to be one on the internet.


And actually, on the cookies, my wife has done just that. Do you know how many cookies it takes to feed an entire bus full of soldiers heading to the airport? A lot.

Notice, the Mad Ogre fits into the good group. I told you I was generous.


No. You’re not generous. You are an idiot. George Hill served his country, and he got hurt in the process, and no matter how snide you are, no matter how clever you think you are, you just can’t find a way to take that away from him. You are a petty little man, Plow, and you just can’t find a way to justify yourself when 75% of the men you are purporting to defend disagree with you.

The San Antonio Tea Party
This is a new one, apparently I was in the top 3% of fiction in '08?

11 thoughts on “I've run into this moron before…”

  1. Larry, this is your friendly neighborhood warmonger dropping a line. I am the American Warmonger that Ass Hat (I have to borrow my favorite name used in MHI) knife guy went off about. Yeah, he said a bunch of half acre BS in an “apology” that went on for a while but said nothing of value. He’s mental. Oh yeah, I work with George at Basin Sports. I can’t train anyone in gun use, so I have to content myself with being an arms dealer. (firearms salesman for the plow-ass forge types, got to be real specific for the humor deficient) Keep up the good work Larry. Can’t hardly wait for MHI 2.


  2. ” Larry, American Warmonger, Billy O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, et all.”
    You know… from this tirade that some Plowtroll clown throws… this is good company. I could sit down to a fine dinner of rare meats and drinks with this group… toast the Alpha-Cons that lead the True America – and be perfectly happy.

  3. What this guy can’t seem to understand is that conservatives don’t have a problem paying taxes for defense spending. We have problems paying taxes for art, taxes for programs that encourage and continue the cycle of poverty, taxes for programs that pay for people’s entertainment (set top boxes, NPR, PBS), programs that value a mouse over people’s livelihoods and homes, and the list goes on.

  4. It’s too bad; Plowshare has some neat-looking knives for sale over at his place. Too bad he’s such a bitter, clueless hatemonger.

    …There’s a dealer I’ve seen at various gun-and-knife shows here in Missouri that has Klan and Stormfront literature on his table. I won’t buy anything from him for the same reason I’ll be avoiding Plowshare.

    Two sides of the same coin, y’know…

  5. Bill O’Reilly’s son is an Iraq veteran. I think he mentioned it on his show once.

    Speaking of which, I once saw an interview between O’Reilly and some moonbat college professor. The professor actually had the audacity to ask, “should a president who’s never served in the military have the authority to send troops to war?” or some such nonsense.

    O’Reilly asked the prof if he was talking about Bill Clinton, and the audience errupted into laughter. Of course the prof was talking about George W. Bush, because in his mind being an Air Force fighter pilot doesn’t count as military service.

    I’m willing to bet this same prof. isn’t bitching about Barack Obama’s pledge to send more troops to Afghanistan.

    For the record, I’ve never heard of this Plowshare Forge guy until Larry mentioned him. But just from reading his comments posted here…um, I’m in the military right now, this very moment, and I think he’s a douchebag.

    MadOgre is a veteran of the Army, also.

    What I *don’t* get is the “neocon” name. Wasn’t a “neoconservative” supposed to be those “compassionate conservatives”, like George W. Bush, who were in favor of big government intervention in the economy and social problems? (The first bailout comes to mind.)

    Um, Larry was furious with President Bush every time he did anything “neoconservative”-esque.

    Honestly, people. If you’re going to name call, at least find a name that somehow fits.

  6. Why reward him with attention?

    Net-loons crave attention … any attention, even bad attention.

    If he annoys you, the best way to annoy him back is to ignore him.

  7. The original meaning of “neoconservative,” and the one I still use, is the wave of “conservatives” who started out as world-nerfing moonbat blissninnies who thought peace, love and dope would save the world in the 1960’s and 70’s, until they got mugged or made enough money to find out how taxes worked, and then became what they thought of as conservatives.

    Generally, their idea of conservatism was to be in favor of blowing people up first and asking questions later, using the military as a first resort, giving the police broad powers to crack down and keep order in the streets, etc. etc. etc. Basically they were statists on the left, and they decided to become statists on the right. They don’t always have much in common with other people who call themselves “conservatives.”

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