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Last Chance. Voting For The Dragon Award Closes Soon

The voting for the Dragon Awards closes at the end of the month. Please spread the word and tell your friends. The Dragons are open to all fans, don’t cost anything, and they want as many fans as possible participating.

I would love for the first annual Dragon to have more fans voting in it than the Hugos.

Once you register here http://application.dragoncon.org/dc_fan_awards_signup.php they will email you your ballot. They send these out in batches, so make sure you give yourself time. If you registered, but not gotten your voting email yet, it might be stuck in your spam folder. It is from dcawards at dragoncon.

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Got my ballot and voted this morning.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Voted.

I see over at the Blog of Eternal Stench that some of the commenters are speculating that the Puppies are secretly the admins of the Dragon Awards. πŸ˜€

Chris L
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The way the Dragons were set up, you don’t need much in the way of admins anyway. It’s completely open, requites no money changing hands, and the vote counting is simple math. So simple, even a spreadsheet could do it.

wyrdbard
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Odds favor a spreadsheet or little bit of script actually doing most of the counting.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

A spreadsheet could do it? But Larry works with spreadsheets . . .

OMG! The Illuminati! Puppies can’t melt steel! Keep watching the skies!

SirShades
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Larry IS Spreadsheet…

Shadowdancer
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Ooh. You’re right. Nicely done.

Richard McEnroe
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Yes! Yes! We secretly control 60,000 voters! Worldcon is DOOMED.

Well, Worldcom is doomed anyway, but that’s mostly due to heart disease and sclerotic business strategies. Oh, and assholes.

Daniel Jones
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Larry,

Are you attending DragonCon this year? I gotta’ say, even though you mentioned on your FB page I’d have a great time, I’m getting down right anxious. I’ve spent so much time in rural Oregon staying away from most people, for the first time in my life, a huge party that I’m going solo to is starting to make me nervous. Would love to hear there will be some kind of Puppy gathering there.

DJ

ThomasW
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Hopefully they’ll fix the wrinkles in the Dragon Award process. Try as I might, I cannot find an official list of nominated works. I can find the list of several blogs, or on my ballot, but nothing at the Dragon Award web site.

The fairly short period (3-4 weeks) for voting is also annoying — I’d prefer to read the works before voting but can’t read the dozen odd books I hadn’t previously heard of in that time frame.

Shawna
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I didn’t really get the sense that they expected you to read them all between getting the ballot and voting. No one could really read *all* the eligible works, and even if one only stuck to the final nominees, most people don’t read that many books in a whole year. I just voted based on what I had read and skipped the categories where I hadn’t read any of them (or had read some but didn’t like any of the ones I’d read). (If we’d gotten free copies of all the nominees, I’d have tried to read more of them,… Read more »
Jeffrey Smith
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I’ve cast my ballot and only had to read three that I hadn’t already read. I won’t say I read a lot of books but I average a book every two to three days and on my days off from work have been known to finish three to four.

Rawle Nyanzi
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I’ve cast my ballot, and I’m proud to have done so.

The Phantom
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Voted last week. Nominated as well. Funny how much less drama and screeching there is for this, eh? Almost as if DragonCon might be a fun place to go hang out and talk SF stuff. Wow, what a concept.

Rawle Nyanzi
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Only one award truly matters, though: the Benjamin.

Brian Niemeier
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FYI folks, you’ve got till this Sunday to register and till 11:59 PDT on September 1st to vote.

And in case you didn’t see Larry mention it on FB, my nominated novel is free right now. http://amzn.to/2aLBw6U

DeTroyes
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Voted for you and Larry. Good luck!

Brian Niemeier
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That makes two of us πŸ˜€

Thanks!

Dr_Mauser
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Wait, that’s volume 2! Now I have to buy the first one! You sneak! πŸ™‚

hobanwashburne
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Off Topic:
I apologize for the distraction. This is such an active site for SF&F and definitely not of the leftish persuasion that it’s a good source for information. I have some grandsons in the pre-teen and early teen age groups. Can anyone recommend any modern authors of SF&F that I wouldn’t be embarrassed to give them. Specifically no trans gender public service announcements, lefty politics or age inappropriate language and themes. I’ve run out of the Heinlein juveniles and need fresh fodder for their voracious reading habits. All feedback is appreciated.

Thanks.

John C Wright
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I can recommend MUTINY IN SPACE by Rod Walker. It is a straightforward action story about a youth coming of age, told without cynicism or leftwing sucker punches.

Joe in PNG
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Mr. Wright’s own “Awake in the Night Land” may be worth a look.

60guilders
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Stephen Lawhead, if you’re looking for more fantasy stuff. Larry Correia, for the ones in their early teens–might be a little much for the younger ones.

60guilders
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Also just about anything by H. Beam Piper.

Nathan
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Lawhead’s Song of Albion, and Pendragon Cycle for certain. Byzantium, Patrick, and Celtic Crusades are more late teen to adult. Bright Empires had some amazing ideas, but isn’t up to his previous works.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

Can anyone tell me how Celia Hayes’ Lone Star Sons and Lamplighter’s Rachel Griffon might fit the criteria?

Julaire
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Jessica Day George’s Princess novels Alison Croggon’s Pellinor novels Brandon Mull’s Fablehaven, Candy Shop War, and Beyonders novels ML Forman’s Adventurer’s Wanted books (personally, I didn’t like them, as they were a little too juvenile for my tastes, but they are popular and not leftist propaganda. I’ll admit I’m not the target demographic though.) Most things from Shadow Mountain Press (Obert Skye, James Dashner, others) seem to be pretty good for young adult readers. If you want to go more old school, the Prydain Chronicles and the Dark is Rising sequence are excellent fantasy YA that aren’t as well know… Read more »
hobanwashburne
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Hello Julaire:
Yes I think old school is what I mean. For boys I think a male protagonist is desirable. At least that’s how it seemed to me at that age.

Regards

Kate_Julicher
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Don’t neglect Louis L’Amour, though he is western and not SF; excellent stories and good illustration of what a man should be, short enough to keep even a fairly distractible pre-teen engaged.

hobanwashburne
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Good point.

Kevin Findley
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There are also the titles Last of the Breed and The Walking Drum. Two of L’amour’s best novels and both non-westerns.

Richard McEnroe
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John Ringo (not the Knight of Shadows series)
David Weber
Tom Kratman
Travis Taylor
Larry Somebody
Chris Nuttall
Sam Schall
Nick Cole

Michael Flynn (not for pre-teen, kind of complex prose style)
Jim Butcher
Nathan Lowell***

Sarah Hoyt
Daniel M. Hoyt
Brandon Sanderson
Paul Anderson
Keith Laumer
Gordon R. Dickson
Glen Cook (not for pre-teen)

Richard McEnroe
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Also A.Bertram Chandler.

TXRed
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Dave Freer’s _Changeling’s Island_. Very boy-friendly and young-people friendly. And such a good read you might find yourself sneak-reading it before he does.

DeTroyes
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Going back to what I loved when I was that age…

Jack Vance: Planet of Adventure series (City of the Chasch; Servants of Wankh; The Dirdir; the Pnume)
Jack Vance: Demon Princes series (Star King; The Killing Machine; The Palace of Love; The Face; The Book of Dreams)
Keith Laumer: Anything in the Retief series
Poul Anderson: Anything in the Technic Civilization series (Dominic Flandry, David Falkayn, Nicholas van Rinn, etc.)
A. Bertram Chandler: Anything in the John Grimes series
Anything by H. Beam Piper.

Shadowdancer
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I’m not sure what ‘age inappropriate language’ is – it varies from family to family; so I’ll guess swearing. I’ll preface that I don’t really consider ‘damn’ a swearword. The children’ve managed to not pick up swearing, because we’ve told them ‘adult language for grown ups. You’ll learn when not to swear, and when it’s appropriate, by then.’ (Yes, I used the ‘it’s time for a colorful metaphor’ as a parent rule. It worked on the Vulcan, it worked on the kids, amazingly enough.) Dave Freer’s Changeling’s Island is my top YA recommendation right now. This is followed by Diane… Read more »
hobanwashburne
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Hi Shadowdancer:
I guess I’ll define “age inappropriate language as anything I’d be embarrassed to say in front of my children and grandchildren. “Damn” is fine. Somewhere between TV and PG-13 is probably close. I guess it’s getting more difficult to agree on standards. I err on the side of caution. I’m only the grandfather after all. I’ll leave it to his peers to corrupt him.

Shadowdancer
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*grin* I’ll always recommend books; but always, always, the final decision is up to the grand/parent/giftgiver. “Age inappropriate language” seems to differ from family to family, and I’ll always respect that, and err on the side of caution. Diane Duane, Dave Freer, the Dragonlance books, Star Trek/Star Wars series books, and Eddings generally don’t have much in salty language (or go for made up ones describe cursing) Troll Mountain was aimed solidly at YA; while the other books by Matthew Reilly fall into TV level of swearing; perhaps more to PG-15? The only one that is solidly into adult territory… Read more »
Shadowdancer
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Oh, I forgot to put in previous comment that I ran across an author named Chris Ryan. While most of his books are upper teen/twenties and up adventure, he seems to have put together a series of books for YA levels called Alpha Force. I haven’t gotten to read them yet but they looked interesting enough that I’m thinking of getting them for my son. “The eponymous Alpha Force are a group of five teenagers with unique talents, skills and personalities who were shipwrecked together in the first book, Survival, and after being forced to work together as a team,… Read more »
perturbed
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When I was twelve I got into E.E. Doc Smith’s space opera in a big way. It wasn’t until the fourth or fifth re-read that I realised some of this stuff had been written in the 1930s and yet apart from relying on basically 1930s valve tech, there were no CONCEPTS that weren’t familiar from (if not more grandiose than) Star Wars or Star Trek (though for all that he did do, Smith never seems to have pre-empted the Star Trek-style matter transporter, and the smallest ships in his space battles are the class of large frigates rather than one-man… Read more »
hobanwashburne
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Thanks to everyone who made suggestions. I’ve bookmarked this page and will work my way through them for kid book purchases.

Richard McEnroe
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Did anybody mention Lloyd Alexander?

John C Wright
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A.E.van Vogt, SLAN, WORLD OF NULL A, WEAPON SHOPS OF ISHER
Keith Laumer DINOSAUR BEACH, THE LONG TWILIGHT, THE GLORY GAME
Jack Vance The Demon Princes series, the Planet of Adventure series, EMPHYRIO, TO LIVE FOREVER
C.S. Lewis The Space Trilogy
Edgar Rice Burroughs, A PRINCESS OF MARS, etc
Robert Heinlein, STARSHIP TROOPERS, HAVE SPACE SUIT WILL TRAVEL
Larry Niven RINGWORLD
Olaf Stapleton LAST AND FIRST MEN, STARMAKER
EE Doc Smith, the Skylark series, the Lensman series
HG Wells, THE TIME MACHINE

John C Wright
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Oops. You said modern authors. Never mind.

hobanwashburne
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Actually the old stuff is a good idea. I just sent Amazon an order for the Lensman Series. But the modern stuff is needed too.

Dr_Mauser
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Nobody’s pointed out Heinlein’s Juveniles yet? I started with Orphans of the Sky when I was 9. Have Spacesuit Will Travel, Tunnel in the Sky, Rocket Ship Galileo, and so on.

hobanwashburne
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Dr. Mauser:
That’s the original problem. I just ran out of the RAH juveniles. See my first post.

Kevin Findley
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There are also the James Patterson Maximum Ride novels. My then teenage son ate them and went looking for more.

60guilders
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Just the first three, though. Book 4 was bad enough that I didn’t even try to finish the series, which is something I’ve only ever done twice.

hobanwashburne
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Are they crime stories?

60guilders
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No. Kids get genespliced to where they’re part bird. The corporation that did this is trying to take over the world and hunt them down, because reasons. Books 1-3 are decent, and book three is a great ending for the series.
Book 4 is terrible. It’s basically a massive “Global Warming Will Doom Us All Unless We Do Something” screed. And also ignores most of the character growth that happened in the first three books.

MClark
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Early teen you might try Charles Higson’s The Enemy, though it might be too violent. Brandon Sanderson’s Steelheart is pretty good, though may be more for a 16 year old. Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card. Mars and Colony by Ben Bova. Edgar Rice Burroughs is good – John Carter, Venus series, Pellucidar. His style is a bit old fashioned, though. Diane Wynne Jones Chrestomanci series, though haven’t read them in a long time.

MClark
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Watership Down for the older one (the life and adventures of British rabbits), maybe the Raymond Feist fantasy novels. Pretty sure the first ones were tame on language…he’s written about twenty of them I think. Magician is the first one.

MClark
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John Christophe’s the Tripod series. And I know I read the Prince in Waiting series but can’t remember it at all.

hobanwashburne
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I think I remember them (Cities of Gold and Lead?).

MClark
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Yes, that’s the middle one.

Bugmaster
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I am a leftist pinko commie, but I hate propaganda as much as you do, so:

Austin Grossman — Soon I Will Be Invincible
Leonard Richardson — Constellation Games

These ate my favorite books of all time.

C.J.Cherryh — Cyteen

If you are looking for an anti-propaganda book, this is it.

hobanwashburne
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I’ll check them out. Thanks.

Lawson
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I want to see the worldcon peoples reaction to this event. The salt should hopefully be glorious.

(Sidenote: when I got on the blog about ten minutes ago, I was actually logged into someones account….. from my personal computer. No idea who it belonged to and when I refreshed I was no longer logged in. I am wondering what happened.)

DeTroyes
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I mostly want to see the figures about how many people participated. I’m betting that it will be several orders of magnitude more than the Hugo’s.

Maskman
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“Someone else’s account” happened to me, as well. Weird.

BigFire
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Thanks for the reminder. Did my voting last night.

Richard McEnroe
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OK, I voted. Gimme a dollar.

Fruitbat44
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Voted, and voted for what I thought was the best.

Maskman
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Ah! Much better than the “Brand X” awards! My ballot is a brighter color, the pet stains are out of the carpet, and my in-box has a fresh minty scent!

Thank you, Dragon Awards!

Michael Dunbar
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Got the following message when I tried to get on voting site around 11:00pm (23:00) tonight:

“You Confirmation link has already been used by Michael Dunbar on 2016-08-27 20:01:50.

If this is not you then please contact the site admin with your email, contact name and confirmation code.”

I was not online prior to 22:30, so how did I vote at 20:01:50? Is this site run by Democrats? Can I have my vote reset and another email sent to me please so I can vote appropriately please.

Wes S.
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Registered tonight; they tell me I’ll receive my ballot Monday.

Hugos delenda est.

Wes S.
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. . . Aaaaaaannnd I just voted. I’ve got to say, several of the novel categories were tough because there’s just so much talent there.

TimD
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Congrats, Larry.
Well-deserved.

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