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The Social Justice Warrior Racist Reading Challenge, A Fisking.

I’ve got work to do. I’ve got to finish the rough draft of a novel for a gaming IP by the end of February, and then I’ve got two short stories due the first part of March, but Monday morning I see this nonsense. How could I not take a minute to fisk it?

http://www.xojane.com/entertainment/reading-challenge-stop-reading-white-straight-cis-male-authors-for-one-year

As usual, the original is italics and my comments are in bold.

I Challenge You To Stop Reading White, Straight, Cis Male Authors For One Year

Bold headline. Short answer? No.

I thought: what if I only read stories by a certain type of author?

On purpose? Then you’d probably be a racist.

K. Tempest Bradford

Pick any whackadoo Social Justice Warrior controversy in sci-fi/fantasy publishing over the last few years and you’ll find K. Tempest Bradford in the middle of it.  She is perpetually outraged that someone may be out there, right now, having fun wrong.

Let’s start by analyzing this picture of Tempest giving America a good scolding.

Finger Shaking Scold

Now, you might be wondering why Neil Gaiman is the designated bad guy this time. By all accounts, Gaiman is a brilliant, entertaining, extremely successful author, who also has a reputation of being a very nice guy to his gigantic fan base. Not only that, but I believe politically he is on the left, so you’d think he would be at least marginally more sympathetic to the various SJW causes.

But he’s Tempest’s Evil White Cismale Oppresor because of this other recent bit of SJW nonsense by Hugo winning feminist Kameron Hurley. http://www.scifinow.co.uk/interviews/kameron-hurley-on-neil-gaimans-trigger-warning-responsibility/

Sadly, I don’t have time to fisk the one I’m fisking, let alone fisk the background fiskings, but that Hurley article is very fiskable. My favorite part is where a SJW laments how awful it might be to have other creators attack you in social media… Yes… I can’t possibly imagine what that would be like.

Basically, Gaiman wrote a book called Trigger Warnings, which triggered SJWs. Now, Gaiman has offended these people before by saying that maybe they shouldn’t be so quick to form angry lynch mobs against innocent people, like when they attacked and slandered his friend comedian Jonathan Ross into resigning from being the Hugo MC because he *might* hypothetically, in the future, tell a fat joke.

For those of you just joining us, not I’m not making that up. SJWs are really that paranoid and vindictive.  

But anyways, because he stood up against witch hunts, and was in favor of telling the truth about someone rather than the narrative, Gaiman equals Satan-Hitler.

But the ironic thing about that picture? Tempest is wearing a Dr. Who shirt. A TV show about a white man and his white female sidekick, created by some white men, with episodes written by… Neil Gaiman.

  

Back in 2012 I faced a conundrum. I write short fiction, and I wanted to get better at writing it. To do that I had to write, write, and write some more.

I actually agree with that. The more you write, the better you get.

But just as important was reading, reading, and reading a lot more.

Also true. Authors need to read in order to become better writers. Exposure to other styles will help you improve your own.

Reasonable so far, but don’t worry, she’s about to go off the rails into racist crazy town.

And I tried. But every time I thought about delving into one of the many science fiction and fantasy magazines at my disposal, or even reading compilations of the “best” stories that had been nominated for and/or won awards, my brain resisted.

Her brain resisted? But, remember, it is my side that is supposed to be small minded.

Also, I want you to think about what kind of stories have been nominated for and/or won awards in recent decades. Plus, I’d invite any of you to go check out some of the various years best compilation anthologies. Go through them with a critical eye and see how they skew politically.

Because every time I tried to get through a magazine, I would come across stories that I didn’t enjoy or that I actively hated or that offended me so much I ragequit the issue.

She RAGEQUIT? (anybody who ever played Call of Duty knows that word is spelled all caps).

Now normally people, when investing their valuable free time into something, when they find that item isn’t to their taste, stop, and simply switch to something else they think they’ll like better. There is after all, a whole lot of things to choose from competing for your entertainment dollar.

But not Tempest. She is powered by RAGE. I bet she RAGEQUITS lots of things.

Go through enough of that and you start to resist the idea of reading at all.

Uh huh… It must suck to be confronted by such dangerous badthink that it would cause a professional writer to give up reading. That would be kind of like an artist saying she was so offended by someone’s painting that she wanted to pluck her eyes out. Or in other words, complete bullshit.

But hang a minute… She doesn’t name any names, but If you look at award winning/nominated short fiction, and Best Of compilations of short stories, you’ll find tons of them that already cater to Tempest’s world view, and yet she still RAGEQUIT. What was she reading exactly? FIRE HOSES & ATTACK DOGS. Bull Conner Presents the Best Fiction of 1965?

Then I thought: what if I only read stories by a certain type of author? Instead of reading everything, I would only look at stories by women or people of color or LGBT writers. Essentially: no straight, cis, white males.

I suppose that would make sense, if you’re a huge bigot blinded by irrational hatred.

Cutting that one demographic out of my reading list greatly improved my enjoyment of reading short stories.

Now just flip that “that one demographic” to Jews and see how much that sounds like a skin head.

That’s not to say I didn’t come across bad stories or offensive stuff in stories or other things that turned me off. I did. But I came across this stuff far less than previously.

So, Gay and Lesbian People of Color, you still offend Tempest, but not enough to cause RAGEQUIT. Don’t worry. Once all the White Cismales are gone, you will be reeducated so that there is no danger of you having fun in an unapproved manner and causing microaggressions.

Limiting myself in this way also made me aware of how often certain magazines published whole issues in which no women or POC authors made an appearance.

Fun Fact: Did you know that when you submit a story to an editor, there is no place on your query letter to tell them about your Race/Sex/Orientation?

And pretty soon I didn’t even bother looking at those magazines when I went on my monthly search. When I ran out of known-to-me magazines, I went on the hunt and discovered several that published new-to-me writers and also a surprising number of magazines dedicated to underheard voices.

The key here is the known-to-me and surprising bits. Most Social Justice Warriors aren’t well read. They like to pretend they are, but when you start talking about what is actually out there to choose from, they are shockingly ignorant. But what do you expect from people who RAGEQUIT when exposed to offensive opinions? This is why when you see them attacking other authors’ works, it is almost always stuff gleaned from the Wiki summary or something completely fabricated.  

I ended that year with a new understanding of what kind of fiction I enjoy most, what kind of writers are likely to write it, and how different the speculative fiction landscape looks when you adjust the parallax.

People like different things. That’s fine. Everyone is going to gravitate toward whatever kinds of work pleases them the most. Some of us like action, exploration, or drama. Others like character driven works, or big questions, or even strong message fiction. Tempest hates white men. So, whatever works.

This past week Sunili Govinnage wrote in The Guardian about her experience reading only novels by writers of color for a year. It’s a challenge she set herself at the end of 2013 inspired by a similar project by Lilit Marcus who read only books by women for a year.

Now, most of us read whatever books sound the most interesting to us, and truly don’t give a shit what skin tone the author is, or who the author likes to have sex with. But then again, we don’t write for the Guardian.

Just like opening up space for more stories from women,

No anthology editor anybody who has ever heard of is trying to keep women out of anthologies. This is one of those things SJWs like to toss out, figuring people will accept it as truth.

Recently I was speaking with an editor who put together a charity anthology. The sales of this anthology went to pay for another author’s medical emergency. The authors who contributed stories to it were not paid. They were volunteers. Because time was of the essence, the editor put out a rushed call for submissions and said he would run with whatever he got by a certain date. Many authors volunteered stories (again, without pay!) and the editor went to press in a hurry (again, medical emergency!), only not a single female author volunteered a story. So of course, when this anthology came out the editor was attacked by SJWs as misogynist woman hater trying to keep female voices out of fiction.

there needs to be a conscious effort to support multicultural voices and fight the assumptions surrounding what the mainstream market supposedly wants.

I like the “supposedly” there. Stupid markets. With their freedom and choices. What the mainstream market really needs is to have people like Tempest Bradford scold them for having fun wrong.

The mainstream market wants to enjoy itself. It doesn’t like to be yelled at. It gets annoyed when you call it racist. Since most books don’t even have back cover photos anymore, the mainstream market probably doesn’t know what color the author is. The mainstream market has zero clue what culture the author grew up in, and if that information is available at all, the mainstream market probably doesn’t give a shit.

The mainstream market buys books based on the following criteria:

  1. This cover looks cool. I will pick it up/click on it.
  2. The back cover blurb/description interests me.
  3. It has good reviews/word of mouth.
  4. I will purchase it with my money.
  5. If I liked it, I may purchase other books from this author.

Govinnage is a writer of color herself,

Writer of Color is a stupid term. I hate the term People of Color. It is just Colored People backwards.

yet she still learned a few things from the experience, including “just how white [her] reading world was.” Even when you’re coming from the viewpoint of a marginalized identity, the privileged view is everywhere and pervasive. It’s easy to buy into it without really knowing that you are.

Privilege huh? From what I’ve heard about Tempest, she grew up in a rich family. Luckily one of my readers copy and pasted some stuff from her bio into the comments. She attended NYU—which I believe is the most expensive undergraduate program in America—to study opera. She then dropped out to attend the “Gallatin School for Individualized Study” where “There we had no “majors”, only “concentrations”. My concentrations were in performance, writing, the history of mythology, interstitial art (though we didn’t call it that, then), and the collective unconscious”

But wait, there’s more about what it means to live such a life of marginalized hardship:  “After leaving college and realizing that the life of a corporate drone is horrendous, I decided to throw it all away so I could attend Clarion West in 2003. I left my job, left New York, and left any notion that I’d be leading a normal life in the dust. After Clarion West I wandered around the country for a few years visiting friends, writing, and discovering that all one needs to survive in life is confidence, charm, and many well-off friends. In 2006 I returned to New York City and took up freelancing to support myself.”

I know when I think of marginalized lives, I think of mooching off your rich friends while playing tourist.  

I only say that because I grew up with all that fancy Portuguese Dairy Farmer Privilege, where I got to have an alcoholic mother and a functionally illiterate father (who is way darker skinned than Tempest), where I got to spend my formative years knee deep in cow shit at 3:00 AM, so that I could later work my way through Utah State (only after getting a scholarship for my freshmen year because I knew a whole lot about cows), to then spend my adult life working corporate drone jobs of increasing difficulty and skill requirements, all while writing on the side while I supported my family, until I could make it as a professional author.  

Lecture us more about privilege, Tempest. It’s fascinating.  

It doesn’t help that most high-profile venues that exist to alert readers to new books and their worthiness are skewed heavily toward privileged voices.

Who? Publishers Weekly? Locus? Io9? Tor.com? GoodReads?

No, seriously. Name some high-profile venue names here, Tempest. Or is this the Bull Conner Upcoming Books of 1965 Alert List? Because I didn’t sign up for that one either.

The funny part is when Chaos Horizon did an unbiased breakdown of the pro review sites comparing my last release to Scalzi’s novel coming out around the same time, despite our selling about the same, all of the pro places reviewed him, and none of them talked about me.  So if there’s a bias there, it sure as hell isn’t in the way Tempest is thinking. (But to be fair, Scalzi may be a SJW, but he is super white and has professed to living life on the easiest difficulty setting.)

A few years ago some best-selling women writers pointed out that the New York Times reviewed significantly more books by men than by women.

Which is funny, since the New York Times is so super right wing. Oh, wait…

The problem is not limited to the Times. Nor limited to just men vs women. If the majority of books being held up and pronounced Good and Worthy are by white, straight, cis men, it’s easy to slip into thinking that most good and worthy books are by authors that fit that description.

You know, in all the time I’ve been doing this and fighting with these people, I can’t find a single mainstream example of anybody of note holding up a book and declaring it good and worthy because it was written by a white heterosexual male. Normally, when regular people declare a book good, it is because they thought the book was good.

I have however seen hundreds of examples of Tempest’s side holding up a book as being good and worthy because of the author’s racial/sexual identity.

Most of us judge books on their content, not the color of their author’s skin.

And, of course, that’s bull.

Nope. And as we’ve already established, because of my Portuguese Dairy Farmer Privilege, I know more about bulls than Tempest does.

“Slowly but surely, the world is noticing that ‘meritocracy’ in the arts and entertainment industries is as fictitious as Westeros,” Govinnage says.

You can declare merit a myth all you want. You can do the same thing about gravity. Doesn’t change reality. Falling off a roof still hurts, and you’re more likely to make a living as a writer if you entertain people.  At the end of the day, regardless of their genetic makeup, Neil Gaiman has more talent in his pinky finger than Tempest Bradford has in her whole body.

The fact they used Westeros as an example of fictitious is illuminating, because it was created by a straight white cismale, but everybody knows who George R.R. Martin is and has heard of his work, because it is popular, and people like it.   

The “Reading Only X Writers For A Year” a challenge is one every person who loves to read (and who loves to write) should take.

No. We shouldn’t. Because we’re not boring racists.

You could, like Lilit Marcus, read only books by women or, like Sunili Govinnage, read only books by people of color.

How do you guys even know? For example, it wasn’t until last year I learned that Steve Barnes is black. I first read his stuff in high school. When you see an interesting book, do you rush off to Google to make sure the author is racially acceptable?

Or you could choose a different axis to focus on: books by trans men and women,

Is there like a special search box to check for this on Amazon that I don’t know about?

books by people from outside the US or in translation,

I’m a Akira Kurosawa junkie, doesn’t mean I’d want to only watch his movies for a whole year.

Side note, do you think it would pain Tempest to know how much money I’m making off of foreign translations? 🙂

books by people with disabilities.

Or how about we read books because they look interesting/entertaining, rather than because the author checks some arbitrary box on an EEOC form? It wasn’t until I saw a Facebook thread this morning that I found out two writers I’ve known online for years are disabled and one is in a wheelchair.

Because who gives a shit?

After a year of that, the next challenge would be to seek out books about or with characters that represent a marginalized identity or experience by any author.

No. They don’t have to do anything. We’re entertainers. Our job is to entertain the readers. Tempest is getting this backwards. The writer works for the readers. Not the other way around.

In addition to the identities listed above, I suggest: non-Christian religions or faiths,

Again, how do you know? I’ve plugged books by everybody from Atheists to Asatru, and I only know their religion because of conversations in real life.

working class or poor,

Kiss my ass. This one in particular really pisses me off. Working class or poor describes most writers.  

and asexual (as a start).

No shit. For a year? Only books by asexual authors. How few books do you read?

Whichever focus you choose,

I choose the “this book looks interesting” focus myself.

it will change the way you read and the way you go about picking things to read.

That’s certainly an understatement.

When I settle in to read a magazine now, I read in order of stories I think I’ll like best. And if I do decide to read one by a new to me author who appears to be a straight, white, cis male, it’s usually because I trust the editor and the magazine.

Read that sentence again and mull over how incredibly racist and sexist that is.

Feel free to change it around. Change it to Black or Jew, but it’ll be okay if she sees a Jewish sounding name or a Black sounding name, because she trusts these editors, and they’ll probably be one of the good ones.

My reading sessions are filled with much less stress these days.

What a vapid, useless screed.

This whole thing really bugs me. Why would you limit your exposure to books and ideas based on such asinine, superficial things?

Louis L’Amour saved my life. He taught me to love reading. I didn’t care that he was whiter than I was, or that we were from different cultures, religions, and backgrounds. Nobody engrossed in a story gives a shit about that. I was expanding my mind, not artificially limiting it.

From there I went on to read whatever I could get my hands on, and I’m sure most of those books were written by old white guys, because at the time most writers were white guys. As demographics change and there were more writers who weren’t old white guys, I read more books by people who weren’t old white guys, and again, didn’t give a shit.

The super evil mass market consumer doesn’t finish a book and say to themselves “This was an excellent read. I’d go tell my friends, but I suspect this author has slightly more/less melanin than I do, or might possibly come from a different socio-economic strata so I’d better throw it away.” That’s the kind of nonsense SJWs fret about.   

Do you want to know the best way to get more people from diverse groups to be writers? Get them to be readers. Readers become writers. Populations with more readers will produce more writers. Some of us are compulsive story tellers, and get them immersed in the medium, and they’ll want to tell stories of their own in that medium.

How do you get people to become readers? Introduce them to books you think they will enjoy. The sexual/racial identity of the author is irrelevant to enjoyment (unless you’re a flaming bigot, because it will make you RAGEQUIT). People tend to keep doing stuff they enjoy.

How do you know what books people will enjoy? That’s the trick. Everybody is different. Everyone has differing tastes. That’s why you introduce them to a wide variety of books. I’m talking real diversity, not the skin-deep superficial diversity SJWs glom onto, but real diversity of thoughts, ideas, and imagination.

SJWs love diversity as long as everybody is diverse in an approved manner. My side welcomes everybody and thrives on competition, whether it is art or ideas, the more the better. I want more people from every possible group writing books. Because the more books that are created, the better the odds that there will be something truly brilliant.

Come to think of it, I’ve got a sneaky suspicion that Tempest’s motivations aren’t exactly purely on behalf of social justice, but rather in the naïve hopes that if fewer people read Neil Gaiman or other white heterosexual males, they’ll buy her stuff instead. That’s one problem with statists. They think the pie is finite. If George Martin gets another dollar, they feel like that dollar was stolen from them.

Sadly, they know as much about economics as they do about literature.

To counter Tempest’s racist challenge to only read books based not upon their content, but upon the color of their author’s skin, I offer a different kind of challenge.

I challenge you to read books based upon what you think sounds awesome, and never give into the finger shaking scolds.   

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youretheworst
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1 year 6 months ago

If you wanna see ego in action, just check the comments. Someone mentions the fact that the author is wearing a Dr. Who t-shirt (show made by white people, starring white people, etc…etc…) but “THAT doesn’t count because she’s specifically talking about books!” She’s got the whole “SJW air of smug superiority” bs down pat.

Themyscira (@ThemyscirKnight)
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Wait, check this irony.

Neil Gaiman writes for doctor who. Two episodes I can think of at least

James May
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James May
1 year 5 months ago

Take a break from reading privileged Jews, because, like the larger white instrumentality they are a part of, they are “diabolical.”

Guest
1 year 6 months ago

The comments section there is horrible, well actually shes being horrible. Shes just putting down people and acting like a child.

youretheworst
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1 year 6 months ago

It just tickles me nowadays. I try to tell everyone; if you HAVE to deal with someone like that, just smile, mock, and ridicule until they go away.

Adam Lawson
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1 year 6 months ago

There’s a good reason I read very few blog’s comment sections — and xojane aint in the top million.

Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
1 year 6 months ago

“Child” seems to cover many of the more vocal SJW’s. Adults have the ability to understand, and deal with the fact that people think, look, act, believe, and do things differently than them.

pukeko60
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1 year 5 months ago
I loved the bit where you cannot read Neil Gaiman because his wife was in a band that offended me. What in the holy name of Frick? I’m hard core reformed, read Correia (Mormon, Methinks) Williamson (NeoPagan) and Ringo (not enough mind bleach) because they write good. I read Gaiman and Stephenson for the same reason. I read Charles Stross and Ken McLeod because they are equally good. And I don’t care who they sleep with or what skin colour they have. I leave that up to God and them: I have enough crap in my own life to clean… Read more »
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1 year 5 months ago
Absolutely spot on. Myself I have been and still am a lifelong atheist and politically I consider myself closer to those guys then Larry. But they disgust me. Their jackbooted mindless victim plays are the most anti-liberal nonsense I can imagine. They are truly corrupt politically and morally. It grosses me out, that I a liberal feel more welcomed at Vox Days blog where I can comment freely than at liberal bogs or tor.com where any dissenting opinion gets erased. My honest belief, one that I will defend if challenged is that people like Tempest are nothing but opportunists. They… Read more »
T.L. Knighton
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1 year 5 months ago

You mean the gay black militant who was secretly gay?

Loved that character. 😀

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik
1 year 5 months ago

Gay black militant who was secretly gay? So was it a secret from himself, or what? 😉

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 5 months ago

Nope. When the public wasn’t around, he cut loose and was a total flamer and proud of it. But if a fan was around, he made Farrakhan look tolerant.

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1 year 5 months ago
James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

https://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/319852003645874176

That’s right. He’s appalled at segregated high school proms.

Julie Pascal
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1 year 6 months ago

Heck, I’m appalled at the idea of a segregated prom. Sort of like being appalled at segregated rooms at Wiscon…

youretheworst
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1 year 6 months ago

I like his writing, but he kind of lost his sheen for me when he vigorously defended Laurie Penny, up to and including suggesting authors up rate her book to “combat the trolls”

James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

Laurie Penny is a mental case of a sociopath.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool
1 year 6 months ago

Some of the folks on the other side of this write books that I will read anyway, because I enjoy them.

Didn’t care to finish American Gods, but Good Omens is something I reread.

Peter B
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Peter B
1 year 6 months ago

And yet, they don’t seem to realise that, for its day, Doctor Who was radical since it’s first executive producer was a woman. The Daleks and other bits that became tropes of the show she pushed.

I invite people to look up Verity Lambert.

Guest
1 year 6 months ago

They even put the story of the creation of Doctor Who in movie format. Well done, IMO. David Bradley really kills it as William Hartnell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Adventure_in_Space_and_Time

Bryce
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Bryce
1 year 6 months ago

My favorite thing is when they say it’s acceptable to read things translated from foreign languages. So basically, Japanese people are minorities in Japan as well as the U.S.? I’m a white guy, but I speak/read/write several languages. Does that mean I can write something in Spanish, translate it later into English, and it will be worthy of her time?

Christopher M Chupik
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Christopher M Chupik
1 year 6 months ago

What a sad and empty place their bookshelves must be. And what a sad and empty thing their lives must be, to be so psychotically obsessed with other people’s ethnicity and sexuality. Don’t they have ANYTHING else to do?

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1 year 6 months ago
But if they did anything else, people would stop paying attention to them. That’s unacceptable. Wow, I just figured it out. This must be what an atheist martyr looks like. They know there’s no eternal Paradise waiting for them when their suffering and persecution is done. The best they can hope for is the approval of their peers, the attention of the masses, and the smug satisfaction of knowing they’re Doing the Right Thing because they’re being so viciously opposed by the thugs and barbarians who scoff at their Utopian vision. So they’re going to draw out their crusade for… Read more »
junior
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junior
1 year 6 months ago

But of course these martyrdoms can’t occur against people who might actually physically hurt them…

James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

There’s little doubt Bradford is following the Scalzi plan of lighting up straight white men to boost their nominal talents as authors. Bradford is known for only one thing: race. Not art, not writing.

DanB
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DanB
1 year 6 months ago

Oh, Chris I imagine they have plenty of books on their bookshelves, because it seems to be pretty easy to find that type of author, the message author… But how many do they have that have been read till the cover comes off? How many are the second or third purchase of that book, because they went to a friend and said, “You have GOT to read this book!”, and then never got the book back? I see a lot of pristine books, read maybe once through, if that, on their shelves

Guest
1 year 6 months ago

My 12 copies of MHI that I’ve loaned out and never gotten back says a little something about what people want versus what SJW’s want to require people to read…

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

That’s because you have failed to tell them about the evil things Larry believes.

For example, he likes GUNS!!!!111!!

lonejanitor
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lonejanitor
1 year 6 months ago
twelve? I stopped loaning them after 3, and started buying them as gifts. Far as bookshelves go, I’m rereading my Norman Spinrad right now to decide which ones to keep (not going well for him). I’ve got Jemisin and Elliot coming up (they’re racist bigots, but maybe they can write, don’t know yet), and just looking through one shelf I can find people from different races, religions, genders and whatever easily. Most of these I read before there was an easy way to get information on the authors, because they had STORIES. Not because of race, gender, religion or whatever.… Read more »
Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik
1 year 6 months ago

Tom: that’s nothing! I’ve heard he’s . . . Libertarian. *shudder*

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

WHAT?

All that talk about freedom? Everyone knows that they don’t really believe that. They all get together in secret meetings and talk about how they REALLY want to exterminate all the left handed transgendered acrobats!!!!

TRX
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TRX
1 year 6 months ago

> never gotten back

I keep a small stack of books just for that purpose. Nothing by Larry in there yet, but over the years I’ve probably “loaned” a dozen copies of L. Neil Smith’s “The Probability Broach” to people who had never voluntarily opened a worked of fiction in their lives.

Jordan S. Bassior
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1 year 6 months ago

The required research astonishes and appalls me. Even granted that as someone plugged into the writing community she would know some of the writers, there’d still be a lot of cases in which she’d have to judge sex, ethnicity or sexual orientation based on either name or someone’s web page. And she’s assuming, of course, that everyone who is gay or lesbian discusses this prominently on their web pages.

Amber
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Amber
1 year 6 months ago

The point is not to be obsessed with other people’s ethnicity and sexuality, but to open your mind to other works from points of views that are underrepresented. I agree with the essence of what she’s saying, but I don’t think you have to cut out white cis-genered men as well.

Jared Anders
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Jared Anders
1 year 6 months ago

Did you miss the part where she’s obsessed with thise things?

Read more of X == Read none of Y

thewriterinblack
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1 year 6 months ago

I  agree with the essence of what she’s saying, but I don’t think you have to cut out white cis-genered men as well.

But that is what she’s saying, not just the essence but exactly .

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

Great.

You see, we don’t give a shit either way. Over here? We’re obsessed with good stories, and if a black transsexual rhino otherkin writes a good one, we’ll probably read it.

There are others, like K. Tempest Bradford, who are obsessed with race. Hell, she’s the one who RAGEQUIT stories that challenged her assumptions and says that skipping white men’s writings made it all go away.

Who is obsessed with race?

Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
1 year 6 months ago

Ah, ye auld “Skim Until Offended”.
Remember kids, Reading is Fundamental!

Mary
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Mary
1 year 5 months ago

What a racist comment.

She is not even thinking of points of views that are underrepresented. It would be trivially easy to keep to her standards and keep within a point of view so narrow that the Thought Police would approve of her self-regulation. If she actually wanted underrepresented points of view, she would go straight for that.

Choose, for instance, to read only conservative SF. That would be different.

James May
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James May
1 year 5 months ago

“[whatever combination of not white and/or straight and/or male and/or cis] doesn’t have to go all the way to white straight cis male’ to shake up their reading lists. And also, and again as a practical matter, the number of people only or primarily reading [whatever combination of not white and/or straight and/or male and/or cis] is likely relatively small compared to those reading only/primarily straight white cis males.” – John Scalzi on the subject of not reading whites, Jews, cis-hets, male cow milkers, Christian Albanians and rodeo clowns for a year.

James May
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James May
1 year 5 months ago

Day’s an amateur compared to Bradford and Jemisin. If he’d switch targets to white cis-hets cow milkers, and amped the racism up about 100 notches, he’d probably have a Nebula by now. Scalzi’s probably trying to figure out how to write The Fuzzy White Ape Turner Diaries.

Patrick Richardson
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1 year 6 months ago

Reblogged this on and commented:
BWAAHAHAHAHA, another masterful takedown of Princess Tempest Teacup by the great Larry Correia

scrapperinla
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1 year 6 months ago

I’m going to Amazon right now and buy Gaiman’s book. I believe in letting my money talk for me. I’m not a white, male, whatever. I am an avid reader/ purchaser of books.

ratseal
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ratseal
1 year 6 months ago

It is a good one. Not great like Fragile Things perhaps, but good.

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

I really enjoyed it too. Go forward and read American Gods, just to piss Bradford off and not feel bad about spending the money.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik
1 year 6 months ago

I rather like Neverwhere, myself. He wrote the novel and the TV series at the same time. The TV show is good, if a bit low budget. Great cast, though, especially the villains.

junior
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junior
1 year 6 months ago

‘American Gods’ is a good book. But you should read ‘Good Omens’ as a starter instead. It’s a collaboration between two straight white males – Neal Gaiman and Terry Pratchett – and is just as awesome and hilarious as you’d think based on the presence of those two writers.

Then you can go read American Gods.

scrapperinla
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1 year 6 months ago

Well, it was the only Gaiman thing I don’t own. It was just a really good excuse to buy a book by a white did male. Bwahaha

James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

That’s two hits on Gaiman in a week. You see, when these birds take over a fortress and find it was abandoned, that makes their achievement less worthy. When Gaiman thumbed the Hugos, the gender-brigade took it personally. They don’t want to beat each other, they want to beat cis-gendered white males. I vote the next WorldCon be held in Cairo because Islamophobia, the non-West, color of people and love.

RightWingProf
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RightWingProf
1 year 6 months ago

Not only are Pratchett and Gaiman white males, they’re both Btrits – so they must have even more privelege.

Linoge
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1 year 6 months ago
I can honestly say I have never given a second – or even a first – thought as to the gender, ethnicity, sexual alignment, or whatever-the-hell else of whatever authors I have read. if, as you say, Larry, the blurb looks interesting, I read the book. If the book was good, I find more books by the same author. If the author recommends other authors, I look into them. And so on. And if the book was not good or was not something I enjoyed, I shrug my shoulders, donate it / sell it, and move on. I never realized… Read more »
cargosquid
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cargosquid
1 year 6 months ago

My first thoughts about this when finding about these issues were….authors have genders? Never even registered. The books just appear magically on the shelves at the bookstore and library.

ajwriter2014
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1 year 6 months ago

Precisely! I wasn’t even aware Larry C. was a white guy until I saw him on a Youtube video. Moreover, I didn’t give a rat’s ass. I read his stuff because I enjoy it, period.

Guest
1 year 5 months ago

Well, technically, he’s only an honorary white guy because he’s a Conservative Latino. And they have to call him white because that does not compute.

Amber
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Amber
1 year 6 months ago
You probably don’t go through life thinking about race / gender /sexual alignment because you’ve never felt it affect you. For some of us there are things that happen on a daily basis that brings awareness to our “otherness,” so yes, it is something that we think about every day. It’s not racist to say “Hey! Try reading books from colored women too!”… It’s completely naive to think we live in a post-racial world. Let’s not try to deny racism exists, but embrace that it does, that we are all a bit racist and that we should work to open… Read more »
Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 6 months ago

I’m bisexual, and have to deal with the ‘fallout’ of it plenty, including from the homosexual community in some cases. It still doesn’t make me agree with her proposal though.

Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 6 months ago
I don’t agree with it because diversity is not promoted by the exclusion of people, with the distinct implication that these people are bad and somehow responsible for the world’s ills by the virtue of their race, gender or sexuality. True diversity and inclusion is NOT caring what anyone looks like or what they sleep with, for bad or supposed good, and judging them solely by merit. In fact, picking out writers based on these criteria of hers cheapens them, in my opinion, as it boils them down to simple checkboxes rather than judging them on the merit of their… Read more »
Patrick Chester
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Patrick Chester
1 year 6 months ago

You probably don’t go through life thinking about race / gender /sexual alignment because you’ve never felt it affect you.

Or we weren’t indoctrinated into thinking about it.

Eamon J. Cole
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Eamon J. Cole
1 year 5 months ago
You probably don’t go through life thinking about race / gender /sexual alignment because you’ve never felt it affect you. For some of us there are things that happen on a daily basis that brings awareness to our “otherness,” so yes, it is something that we think about every day Step off the horse, the poor animal needs a break. Piling such a load of narcissistic twaddle on high would give anybody a backache. You probably don’t have enough awareness of other people as discrete and separate beings to realize that your arbitrary categorizations don’t shield anyone from ostracization or… Read more »
T.L. Knighton
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1 year 5 months ago

Tell us how you really feel, Eamon.

It’s not good to keep your emotions bottled up like that. 😛

Eamon J. Cole
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Eamon J. Cole
1 year 5 months ago

You know me, T.L., always trying to be polite.

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 5 months ago

This is true. 😀

Kristophr
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Kristophr
1 year 5 months ago

Victor: If you speak against SJWs and approve of wrongfun, then you are no longer considered bi by SJWs, but are now trans-cis.

Alex Greenfield
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1 year 5 months ago

Nor is it racist to choose a book that is written by a white author over a book written by a black author (assuming you bother to look up the so called race of the author) because the former looks interesting while the latter doesn’t. Unfortunately Tempest doesn’t bother with the last part of that statement. While I don’t think she actually came out and said it in the article she strongly implies that the choice of the former author in my example IS racist.

Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 5 months ago

You’re sadly right, Kristophr.

Guest
1 year 6 months ago

These SJWs, their hypocrisy is nothing short of staggering. She can take her challenge and go screw off. I plan on reading many white cishet authors this year and enjoying the hell out of them. And good lord, but she has Anna Grodzka hands.

Guest
1 year 6 months ago

Now that I look at the pic again, she and Grodzka could be sisters, too. *shudder*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Grodzka

bassmanco
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1 year 6 months ago

Thanks, Dave W. I can’t unsee that. Talk about needing a trigger warning. 🙂

Guest
1 year 6 months ago

You’re welcome! 😀

DaveP.
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DaveP.
1 year 6 months ago

Also she kinda reminds me of Andrea Dworkin… bad character will eventually show, I guess.

Jordan S. Bassior
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1 year 6 months ago

One of the funny things about her appearance is that she doesn’t look particularly black, even though she rants on about it and once famously claimed that in America it was legal to shoot people like her. What did she mean by “people like her?” (Obvious replies to my own question occur to me, but most are just RUDE). 🙂

Julie Pascal
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1 year 6 months ago

If I read a bunch of white cis male authors this year it’ll be by accident. The idea of picking books purposely by the author’s pigment and plumbing isn’t something that exists, or that I want to exist, in my mind space.

Guest
1 year 6 months ago

The only reason the authors I mentioned are male white cishets is pure coincidence and the fact that I’ve previously enjoyed their work. I plan on reading Sarah Hoyt and Cherie Priest as well because I’ve enjoyed their work in the past. Bradford and her “challenge” can go suck lemons.

Bies Podkrakowski
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Bies Podkrakowski
1 year 6 months ago

Curse you for exposing existence of our natonal shame to the world. We hoped that if nobody notices he/she will go away.

Guest
1 year 6 months ago

And good lord, but she has Anna Grodzka hands.

Curse you for exposing existence of our natonal shame to the world. We hoped that if nobody notices he/she will go away.

LOL! You can hardly watch an episode of Wiadomosci without a mandatory appearance by either Grodzka, Palikot or Leszek Miller! It’s an ongoing joke in our house. 😀

Guest
1 year 6 months ago

Gah, I messed up the quote marks.

James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

Why would I question the motivations of a black radical lesbian feminist who has referred to a white woman on Twitter as “cracka ass cracka” and who has teamed up with an Asian feminist who referred to a white actor as “sour dough-faced” who together created a racially segregated non-whites-only room at the feminist WisCon SF convention?

I must be paranoid.

Amber
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Amber
1 year 6 months ago

She’s just asking you to open your mind to other authors that you may not directly relate with (I’m assuming you’re a white man).

thewriterinblack
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1 year 6 months ago

No she isn’t. She didn’t say “read this.” She said “don’t read that. That’s not opening your mind. It’s closing it.

Guest
1 year 6 months ago

She’s just asking you to open your mind to other authors that you may not directly relate with (I’m assuming you’re a white man).

No, no she’s not. We’re capable of reading her words, so you don’t need to try to be an apologist/distort what she said.

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

Sounds like she’s saying that people shouldn’t buy any of my stuff, let my family suffer because I happened to be born white and male, simply because I was born white and male.

What do you know? That’s EXACTLY what she’s saying.

Julie Pascal
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1 year 6 months ago
Happened across Michael Z Williamson elsewhere on the internets in a thread for an article with approximately this exact same call to exclusionary-by-race reading (at first, when I saw this, I thought… doesn’t Larry realize this is OLD?) and one of the commenters there proclaiming that she would never never never read any of the crap that he wrote. I explained that if she wanted *something different* and if she wanted something that would *challenge her* and if she wanted to stretch her horizons in ways they hadn’t gone, if she valued diversity in her reading, and *even* if what… Read more »
Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
1 year 6 months ago

And may we ask just how many books you have read that go against your world view? Are you able to open your mind to other viewpoints, ideas, or stuff you don’t relate to?
Or are you sliding back into the old pre-liberal area where the sum total basis of a person’s merit was entirely based on their background?

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 5 months ago

Joe, you have to understand. They don’t mean that THEY should open their minds and seek about books that challenge their preconceived ideas.

That’s for the little people like us.

Patrick Chester
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Patrick Chester
1 year 6 months ago

She’s just asking you to open your mind-

No, she isn’t.

Oh sorry, am I interrupting your script?

Kristophr
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Kristophr
1 year 5 months ago

Doubleplusungood crimethink, Larry.

Amber has consigned Ms. Bradford’s actual text to the memory hole, therefor calling attention to the oldspeak is treasonous.

KHorn
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KHorn
1 year 5 months ago
Amber, Why are you incapable of accepting Bradford in her own words? She is not saying, in addition to your normal authors here are some underrepresented ones I think you will like. She is directly asking the reader to not read any books for one year based solely on the race, sex and sexual orientation of the author, period, full stop, end of sentence. Now how is exluding authors based on race and sex “opening your mind?” Isn’t it really closing it? Please acknowledge what she actually said (not the ridiculous re-write you came up with) and tell us why… Read more »
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Robin Munn
1 year 5 months ago

Do a quick Ctrl-F search for “Amber” on this thread. She posted comments at 12:09 AM, 12:14 AM, 12:16 AM, and 12:18 AM of February 25th… and that’s it. No more comments. Classic drive-by commenter (not to mention a classic “skim until offended” pattern) who shoots off a few comments and leaves the thread, never to return. She’s been fully answered by the other people in this thread, and there’s no point in writing anything further to her as she’s never going to come back and interact with anyone’s responses.

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 5 months ago

That is, in part, because she can’t. We’ve addressed her comments in ways she’s unable to refute with any success.

Even if she were inclined to return, she’s been taken to school but is too intellectually dishonest to admit it outwardly, so instead she’s just stay away.

Amber
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Amber
1 year 6 months ago

Why do the way her hands look matter?

suburbanbanshee
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1 year 6 months ago

Once a writer starts bringing up personal appearance, genetic heritage, and skin tone, it’s certainly fair to talk about her hands’ resemblance to someone else’s hands. Also, it’s funny.

Meanwhile, my icon picture clearly warns people that I’m an Irish bitch. 🙂

Jared Anders
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Jared Anders
1 year 6 months ago

Yep. Read what you want. Write what you want. Don’t try and push your stuff by blocking or tearing down others.

Such a radical concept. Sigh.

Insectress
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Insectress
1 year 6 months ago

The only time I “gave up” reading any sort of book from a publisher or person for a year was when I lived in Thailand and couldn’t get a hold of them.

Why limit your reading materials in such a way by stating the ethnic/sexual identity/political guidelines that you won’t consider reading? How will cutting off an avenue of potential enjoyment benefit you? Being widely read is a wonderful thing, and that includes reading stories by white, cis-males or whatever group gets your dander up.

Beth
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Beth
1 year 6 months ago

I hate these people, if they can be called people. They seem absolutely determined to keep me from enjoying anything that I want to enjoy. This past year and a half have been dismal in video games, and I blame the SJW contingent almost entirely (as well as EA, but whatever). If they get into publishing in such a way that my favorite authors feel pressured to produce this bull, I don’t know what I will do.

Andrew
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Andrew
1 year 6 months ago

You’ll do what they did in the Eastern Block, smuggle in things from Americ….oh…

junior
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junior
1 year 6 months ago

We’ll smuggle in things from the former Eastern Bloc.

Companies from Eastern Europe and Russia have been quite busy developing new video games. The primary downside is that the Russian companies sometimes they tend to take a slightly… more positive… view of the Soviet end of things during the Cold War (unsurprising, given that it is ultimately themselves that they’re talking about).

Julie Pascal
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1 year 6 months ago

I would expect Russians to be the heroes in the cold war… and Japan to be where all the aliens land… and Chinese film to have Japanese or English villains.

It’s part of the fun.

Doqz
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Doqz
1 year 6 months ago

Aliens aside, Japan also tends to refight WW2 a lot in its fiction. There is a good chunk of popular opinion that sees themselves as the righteous victim of that conflict. One of the behavioral quirks that underlines the difference in relationship between Germany and its neighbors, as opposed to Tokyo.

junior
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junior
1 year 6 months ago

For the Japanese, it’s a bit more. They have a real problem addressing the many atrocities that the Japanese Army committed during the war. I suspect that the majority of Japanese citizens aren’t aware that the Japanese were particularly worse than any of the other nations involved in that conflict. And given the surrounding nations still have scars from that conflict that were inflicted by the Japanese, coupled with the periodic attempts from China to guilt-trip the Japanese over what happened… it’s a real problem.

Theodore Seeber
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Theodore Seeber
1 year 6 months ago

I personally suspect that atrocity in warfare is inversely proportional to material wealth in the nation committing the atrocity.

junior
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junior
1 year 6 months ago

Have to disagree on that. I think it has more to do with who is on top right now. The West has evolved a set of morals that discourages atrocities. It also is where the wealth is primarily concentrated.

But if the West wasn’t at the top of the pile, then China might very well be. And, well… Tianenmen Square. Need I say more?

Brian Niemeier
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1 year 6 months ago
‘If they get into publishing in such a way that my favorite authors feel pressured to produce this bull, I don’t know what I will do.’ They’re already in publishing. They have been for a very long time. If your favorite authors haven’t bowed to the pressure that the publishing establishment exerts on content creators to write PC dreck, chances are they’re either midlisters who’ve escaped notice (for now) or best sellers with enough clout to tell the SJWs where to shove their demands (like our host). Take heart. Recent developments have put the power where it should’ve been all… Read more »
Jared Anders
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Jared Anders
1 year 6 months ago
Thank goodness for indie. We are fully at the point where I’m not even seriously considering submitting my books to the trad houses (aside from Baen, but they’re not big enough to take all the awesome things) nor am I considering joining the SFWA – what’s the point? It’s not like I had any say in being born white or male, nor would I want to change my attraction for the ladies. For people like Tempest that alone means I will be discounted out of hand, before they’ve read anything I’ve actually written. Who knows? Maybe my writing does suck,… Read more »
Brian Niemeier
Guest
1 year 6 months ago

‘Thank goodness for indie.’

Hear, hear!

‘Maybe my writing does suck, (Heck, it’ll be my first novel. I fully expect it to be less good than the one I write next.’

A writer friend-of-a-friend once offered this sage advice to newbies: “You’ve got to get the suck out.”

By most accounts, draining the suck from one’s system means writing about a million practice words.

Excelsior!

DanB
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1 year 6 months ago

Oh, Chris I imagine they have plenty of books on their bookshelves, because it seems to be pretty easy to find that type of author, the message author… But how many do they have that have been read till the cover comes off? How many are the second or third purchase of that book, because they went to a friend and said, “You have GOT to read this book!”, and then never got the book back? I see a lot of pristine books, read maybe once through, if that, on their shelves

Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 6 months ago

As a white cis male (I’m not straight, though) I can safely say I’ve never given a damn about the race, gender, or sexuality of any writer. One of my favorite writers in the fantasy genre is Tanith Lee, a woman. One of my favorite writers in the action/thriller genre is Andy McNab, a guy who’s an ex-SAS soldier. Other writers I enjoy are everything in between, including some mongrel dairy farmer dude who writes about big guys with Saiga shotguns shooting vampites. Read what you like, not what social justice checkboxes it hits.

Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 6 months ago

He also shoots vampires.

junior
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junior
1 year 6 months ago

So… vampites…

Is that a tribe composed of hot, sexy women? Because I’d certainly hope that you’re *not* reading books about shooting them with Saiga shotguns!

Viktor Gorchev
Guest
1 year 6 months ago

I wouldn’t dare!

accordingtohoyt
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1 year 6 months ago

No. They’re vampires who take tiny bites. “I was nibbled to death by vampites.” You’re confusing them with vampettes, who are pocket size vamps.

T.L. Knighton
Guest
1 year 6 months ago

I thought they were bite sized vampires.

accordingtohoyt
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1 year 6 months ago

nom nom nom nom nom — bet you can’t eat only one.

T.L. Knighton
Guest
1 year 6 months ago

Especially when there’s hummus to dip them in.

junior
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junior
1 year 6 months ago

Nah, the small-sized suffix would be -ette, as Sarah notes. -ite means tribe or nation, ex. Israelite. So a tribe of hot, sexy women.

Of course, I suppose that they might be vampires that take tiny bites masquerading as a tribe of hot, sexy women.

Of course, coincidentally, -ette also means female. Hmm…

Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 6 months ago

Either way, they certainly do not deserve being Saiga’d in the chest and/or face. I’m not a bigot.

RabidAlien
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1 year 6 months ago

I am laughing so hard at this exchange right now!!! Pocket-sized tribe/nation/coven of smokin-hot female vampires that prefer to nibble and taste great with hummus!!!! Larry, this has to end up in an MHI novel somewhere!!!

Bruce
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Bruce
1 year 6 months ago

I prefer french onion dip over humus… Oh! Hey! These are better than Doritos!

Jeff Gauch
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Jeff Gauch
1 year 6 months ago

Hummus has garlic. I’m not sure other alliums would work.

AuricTech
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1 year 5 months ago

“Vampite” is a portmanteau word that refers to nanites that cause vampirism in their hosts.

Viktor Gorchev
Guest
1 year 5 months ago

Whatever Vampites might be, they deserve our understanding, and we should make sure we check our non-Vampite priviledge and work towards the full inclusion and acceptance of Vampites in society. I propose that for 1 year, we shake off our subconciously Vampitephobic preconceptions and we avoid books by non-Vampite authors. Sound good?

Julie Frost (@JulieCFrost)
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1 year 6 months ago
In addition to the identities listed above, I suggest: non-Christian religions or faiths. Right, because it’s not like novels with overtly Christian messages are stuck in a tiny ghetto of the bookst– Oh, wait. And wow, the SFF shelves are just loaded with books that treat the Christian religion and religious people with respe– Oh, wait. This really, really irritates me. As a person of faith, I actually stopped reading SFF for a long time, because every other time I picked one up, I found that faith (and by extension, me) being denigrated, made fun of, and derided as some… Read more »
James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

Intersectionalism is this simple: it reviles males, whites, heterosexuals, the West, and Christians.

60guilders
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1 year 6 months ago

(Nods)
I was going to comment on that, but you beat me to it. That ticked me off.
There’s almost nothing but non-Christian authors in the mainstream these days. The default setting for writers seems to be “atheist shading to agnostic.”

And, while I didn’t stop reading as a result, the potshots at organized religion taken by authors like Heinlein and Piper get annoying very quickly.

Fortunately, they don’t happen all the time, and the stories are good.

RabidAlien
Guest
1 year 6 months ago
As a Christian myself, the problem I’ve found is that even Christian fiction is so over-the-top message-heavy that I’ve given up reading anything in that section of Amazon unless I’m looking to research a specific theological topic, at which point I’m not interested in the “fiction” side of religious writing. Its not hard to write a decent good-vs-evil book without beating me over the head with a Bible. Case in point: Larry Correia, who will never be found on the shelves at Lifeway based on his book covers alone. 🙂 Which is why I read Larry Correia.
60guilders
Guest
1 year 6 months ago

Yes. I find it quite tiresome.
However, there are exceptions–Stephen Lawhead, for instance.
Occasionally he’ll bring out the Axe Handle of Message, but he uses it sparingly.

Achillea
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Achillea
1 year 5 months ago

Except in Pendragon Cycle, in which he clubs you to death with it.

60guilders
Guest
1 year 5 months ago

Didn’t read that one.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik
1 year 6 months ago

Heck, I’m agnostic, and among my favorite authors are Tolkien, Gemmell, Correia, Torgersen, Dalglish. I don’t seek out Christian fiction, but I’ve got no problem with fiction by Christians.

Julie Pascal
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1 year 6 months ago

I won’t say I ever RAGEQUIT anything over it, but for a long time there seemed to be a heavy trend toward “In the future we’ll be beyond the foolishness of religious faith… and also eating meat.” It didn’t make me MAD it just made me think that the author was sort of stupid. It’s one (of many) reasons that I thought that Bujold and Weber were so great. The stories about Miles and Honor weren’t about religious faith, but religious faith and superstition exist in those worlds, because humans exist in those worlds.

Viidad
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Viidad
1 year 6 months ago

And don’t forget: no more money, plus we’ll have group marriage! Gag.

Bruce
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Bruce
1 year 6 months ago
Group marriages? This is one thing I’ve never quite understood. Why would I ever want to have more than one wife? Is there some secret about marriage that you only find out after the ring is on your finger that makes having more than one wife desirable? And what happens in a divorce? What if you and wife c want to divorce but wife a and b don’t want to divorce spouse c? Does that mean you have to divorce spouses a, b, & c to get rid of c? I mean, are all of the spouses of equal status… Read more »
overgrownhobbit
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overgrownhobbit
1 year 6 months ago
What always bugged me, in the “threw me out of my suspension of disbelief” was when the future society didn’t have any Jews. I’m not Jewish myself, and I can see a future Christian church that looks mighty alien to us now (or so marginalized as to be story-wise, invisible, see also Japan), but no Jews? That’s a tribe that kept its culture and religion nearly unchanged from the Bronze age to the present:multiple millenia and in the face of often relentless coordinated efforts to expunge it. Unless you’re writing something like the Instrumentality of Cordwainer Smith or super-super-far-future like… Read more »
snelson134
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snelson134
1 year 6 months ago

Bruce, I’ve said for years that the number of suicide bombers who are Islamic is directly tied to Muslim polygamy: the ones without wives are depressed and the ones with more than one are desperate to escape….. 😎

T.L. Knighton
Guest
1 year 6 months ago

So clearly, they need spouse distribution.

Julie Pascal
Guest
1 year 6 months ago

And now that I think about it. I wonder if the “humans in the future will all be atheists” thing is another of the reasons that science fiction shrank and fantasy grew.

David
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1 year 6 months ago

I think there might be something to that idea. It’s unfortunate that many lack an education in the contributions of religious people to science over the millennia *as part of their faith*.

Most of the SF dismissals of religion I’ve encontered are not there principled Athiesm of Russell etc, but rather the smug “I know better than you” playground taunt. Fantasy starts with the presumption that there is something supernatural, and while there are a lot of poor caricatures of religious orders, at least the idea of being a believer is prima facie possible.

junior
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junior
1 year 6 months ago

Contrast that with Babylon 5. The episode The Rock Cried Out No Hiding Place includes a scene with a black gospel group singing the titular song. It’s interspersed with a rather brutal unrelated murder happening elsewhere, but the fact that JMS wasn’t afraid to include modern day religions in his universe was unusual.

thewriterinblack
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1 year 6 months ago

This calls out for Earth’s Dominant Belief System from a much earlier episode of the same show:

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Draven
1 year 6 months ago

And Gaiman wrote an episode for that show, too.

Heck, one of the alien races is named for him.

snelson134
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snelson134
1 year 6 months ago

A huge number of my Christian friends who wouldn’t watch a lot of TV would watch Babylon 5 because JMS, though an athiest himself, never made them feel like he was mocking them.

Stephen J.
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Stephen J.
1 year 6 months ago

A-bloody-men, sister.

phunctor
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phunctor
1 year 6 months ago

Heh. I was reading a short in SciPhiJnl. Two instances of uncapitalized, singular “god”, then I got to some blither about “gender”. I removed the thumb from my eye and moved on to the next story. Now that’s eclectic editing!

Brian Niemeier
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1 year 6 months ago

Good point. Contrary to the opposition’s projections, we’re not an ideological monolith (the essay defending determinism in the Matrix trilogy is another example).

Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 6 months ago

I’m an atheist, but some of my favorite authors are Christians of some variety, and I don’t mind including religion in my own stories in a non-negative light.

Jen G.
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Jen G.
1 year 6 months ago

I hear you. Nothing makes me abandon a book, tv show, or movie faster than the ‘evil religious cult’ trope. Yes there is some truth in it, but it is so distorted and never presented with any balance to the 99% of folks who aren’t planning on murdering you because you think differently

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

I don’t mind the cult thing so much.

Provided they don’t make every religious person out there look like brainwashed cultists.

Julie Pascal
Guest
1 year 6 months ago

I think that Wen Spencer did about the best treatment of “evil religious cult” I’ve ever seen in fiction. There was the “evil religious cult”, the “hostile atheist government agent” good guy, the group of good guys with an old fashioned “profound faith and belief in God,” and the “don’t ask me, I’m Unitarian,” hero. And even the “evil cult” had members that ran from manipulative evil bastiches to earnest sorts faced with actual “demons” to fight.

Jaycephus
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Jaycephus
1 year 3 months ago

Agree. I’m sick to death of the rather pedestrian and intellectually-challenged pro-atheist arguments, though these are most-often seen on YouTube, comment sections, and any Bill Mahr show, not as often in published novels. I’m fine with good writing, but a lack of understanding of human nature and human history in an attempt to make an anti-religious argument is just inexcusable in a writer. I enjoy reading all kinds of SF, which often, by its nature, must contradict something in the Bible. So do many Christian speculative writers’ works. It’s not the alternative fictional worlds that I have a problem with.

frompennsyltucky
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1 year 6 months ago
All hipsters are into Dr. Who. Seriously, let’s look at the picture here. She’s wearing a Dr. Who shirt and is wearing the hipster glasses. This is her cause of the minute, and is hilarious, because I am betting that she did nothing of the sort as far as this “reading challenge” she is bragging to have done. To be honest I’m thinking she needed a topic and this one sounded good. Truthfully, as long as she can get her ego stroked and be patted on the back by the others in her dreadfully tiny circle (I mean, it must… Read more »
Sara the Red
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Sara the Red
1 year 6 months ago

I look at it this way: most of us (who are not hipsters or SJWs) enjoy Doctor Who because, most of the time, it’s ripping good entertainment. If someone is enjoying it for SJW and/or hipster reasons…well, that’s their call, but they damn well better keep it out of MY enjoyment of Who! 😀

frompennsyltucky
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1 year 6 months ago

I honestly have never watched Dr. Who (the old, or new version), but that’s okay. I watch The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones, and both of those are enjoyed by a large hipster contingent as well…and my childhood hero, Wonder Woman has been taken over by them as well, and my love of bacon…but enjoying these things does not make us hipsters. I agree with you (hence the disclaimer)

Sara the Red
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Sara the Red
1 year 6 months ago

Hipsters: the REAL culprits of “cultural appropriation”! 😀

Wes S.
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Wes S.
1 year 6 months ago

Call me a heretic, but the appeal of Doctor Who escapes me. Never have really been able to get into that show; it just seems kind of silly.

Now the DW spinoff show “Torchwood,” on the other hand, I liked a lot. It was just as over-the-top as Doctor Who, but had a more serious, adult tone that seems to work for me.

no one important
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no one important
1 year 6 months ago
Wes S: I speak for no one else, but I enjoyed 1960s-70s Dr. Who for the sheer unapologetic goofy low-budget pulp-adventure campiness of it all. But then, when Tom Baker, Jon Pertwee, and Patrick Troughton played the character, it was just that–silly adventure-serial style cliffhanger stories about narrow escapes from the scenery-chewing Master, or the Daleks, who somehow manage to chew the scenery despite not having faces or more than a single (shrill, enraged) tone of voice. Dr. Who in post-2005 version, so-called nuWho, is an obnoxious, unsympathetic, tiresomely politically correct fellow whom one wishes would get eaten by the… Read more »
Bruce
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Bruce
1 year 6 months ago
Growing up we didn’t have cable, so we had four channels that came in clear, and if we were really lucky sometimes we could get the PBS channel in from a city about 80 miles away. I was almost six years younger than my next youngest sibling…and in a lot of ways he was my best friend. I remember the trying to watch the snowy Dr. Who episodes our old black and white console TV that was put upstairs in our room when mom & dad bought that fancy color TV for the living room downstairs. Normally the audio was… Read more »
Theodore Seeber
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Theodore Seeber
1 year 6 months ago

Sadly they didn’t at the end of the Eleventh Doctor. The Twelfth is too new to notice yet, but there were some distinctly homophiliac stories at the end of the Eleventh (I think that’s why they had to kill off Amy and Rory, they were getting a bit too heterosexual for the writers to deal with).

Anthony
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Anthony
1 year 6 months ago

no one important: ” Daleks, who somehow manage to chew the scenery despite not having faces or more than a single (shrill, enraged) tone of voice.”

Daleks are SJWs!

John R. Ellis
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John R. Ellis
1 year 6 months ago
As someone who’s a fan of “classic” and “new” (thought since it’s been around a decade now, “revival” might be a better term) Who, who may or may not have roughly two hundred original Doctor Who audio dramas stacked up in his closet, I’ll just say I think all variations of the show have their charm, though it is an acquired taste. And I don’t think it’s a taste only hipsters of SJW types can acquire. It’s kind of like the way a mother hen loves an ugly chick. Despite it all, even the cheesiest episodes have something I can… Read more »
Ad Astra
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Ad Astra
1 year 5 months ago

@frompennsyltucky and Wes S.
Ya this sketch pretty much sums up Dr. Who for me

Theodore Seeber
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Theodore Seeber
1 year 5 months ago

Which is what really bothered me in the last three seasons, with the sudden appearance of cross species homosexual characters in Doctor Who. It seemed so forced, like they were ticking off a SJW checkbox.

Patrick Chester
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Patrick Chester
1 year 6 months ago

I challenge you to read books based upon what you think sounds awesome, and never give into the finger shaking scolds.

Can we give the finger shaking scolds the finger?

Wombat-socho
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Wombat-socho
1 year 6 months ago

Gonna invoke my Black Irish privilege and give her four fingers, because that’s just how obnoxious she is.

James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

I challenge Bradford to live in a black neighborhood for a year. Living in whitesville has obviously turned her into a racist.

James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

I’ve been to some great parties up in favela Doña Marta. Trust me, they’d kick out a thing like Bradford in 2 seconds, skin or no skin.

Jordan S. Bassior
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1 year 6 months ago

I challenge Bradford to live in AFRICA for a year. Sub-Saharan. It would be amusing hearing her go ballistic about being called “white” all the time.

James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

SJWs dote on Muslims and non-whites to the exact extent they refuse to live around large numbers of them. They love issuing challenges but won’t actually walk the walk. Meanwhile I’ve lived among more Muslims and what these jerk-offs call “people of color” than SJWs will ever dream of, and for that Bradford calls me an “MRA,” a men’s right’s activist, a thing I have absolutely no interest in.

Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
1 year 6 months ago

Nothing new- Marxist have always professed to be for the interest of the Worker, while despising actual workers for more than a century and a half.
SJW’s have a made up idea of what “real” minorities, workers, and other are supposed to be. Contact with the actual tends to hurt their world view, so they dismiss them as not being the real thing.

Guess
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Guess
1 year 5 months ago

I lived in a black neighborhood for 4 years. Prince georges county maryland is majority black. It wasnt a big deal. When i first moved in one of myneighborhoods said he doesnt see to many white people around here. Only comment I ever got. Really wasnt a big deal. I dont recall my neighbors crossing the street in fear when I had my hood up.

It really wasnt a big deal.

junior
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junior
1 year 6 months ago
Some of the classic sci-fi and fantasy worlds were the creations of female authors. McCaffrey’s Pern. LeGuin’s Earthsea (which has even had multiple bad adaptations). The latter had a non-white protagonist (whose one true love – who he eventually shacked up with – was a white woman). Maybe Ms. SJW should stop for a moment and wonder what it means for her arguments if the people she’s whining in favor of are the ones who *used* to be popular. Maybe, just maybe, the consumer market long ago learned to not automatically read books written by straight, white, males?
Eamon J. Cole
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Eamon J. Cole
1 year 6 months ago

I’m so damn tired of the bigotry and ignorance.

Such thin, dreary standards to fly, this obsession with skin and sex.

K. Tempest Bradford, you’re a bigot and a scold. The bigotry I might forgive…

James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

The funny thing about posts like Bradford’s is SJW Twitter feeds boil like an anthill and one can gather enough hate speech to fill a truck.

Eamon J. Cole
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Eamon J. Cole
1 year 6 months ago

I know, it’s repugnant.

I don’t know how you do it, man. My (low average) blood pressure would pop my brain if I mined that quagmire for long.

I respect you for it, I just don’t know how you do it.

James May
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James May
1 year 6 months ago

I want the KKK out of SFF and it’s as simple as that. They not only have no business being in this great literary movement, they are a thing SF used to routinely warn against. If you ever wondered how hate speech was mainstreamed in Nazi Germany or Rwanda, wonder no more.

James May
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James May
1 year 5 months ago

Cole you’ve been tearing Glyer a new one. You’re right of course. It’s just hate cloaked in fancy words and justifications. There is nothing complex about these people or hard to understand. Imagine a police force that never caught and prosecuted anyone but straight white males and you have social justice warriors and the racist feminist cult which powers them. How hard is it for these morons to look in their holding pens and see they keep catching the same fish?

Eamon J. Cole
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Eamon J. Cole
1 year 5 months ago

Thanks. I’m sure Glyer’s perspective on the thread is different, but so far all I’ve seen are attempts to discredit with mockery and shifts to less pointed aspects.

James May
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James May
1 year 5 months ago
The reason that is so is because Glyer’s target – like Bradford’s – is predetermined. Like I said, it’s like a police force that only ever catches people over 5 ft. 9 inches tall. Their report will have to jump through hoops of logic to make that reflect “reality.” You are reading such a report at Glyer’s. That’s how “privilege theory” works. It’s like a automatic targeting mechanism that always keep straight white men in the cross-hairs and pretends that’s a form of logic. In fact that form of rhetoric is typical of the kind of meticulously worked out persecution… Read more »
Eamon J. Cole
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Eamon J. Cole
1 year 5 months ago

I know, I’m not surprised. I just figure I’ll play through and see what develops.

T.L. and I were discussing this earlier. I’m not arguing my case against Glyer or the other commenters, I’m arguing it before the silent majority.

Brian Niemeier
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1 year 5 months ago
@Eamon: what you’re describing is a man who has no ammunition against your rational arguments, so he resorts to bullying. Which is exactly where you want him. Calling Glyer, Gerrib, et al. on the carpet and making them explain their defense of Bradford has forced them to publicly endorse bigotry. Like you said, the core issue is the racism and sexism that motivated Bradford’s challenge. Glyer & co. know that, hence their circumlocutions. Keeping them talking made their exposure inevitable. Except for the terminally morally retarded, anyone who reads that comment thread will walk away knowing Bradford’s apologists excuse bigotry… Read more »
James May
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James May
1 year 5 months ago
You’ve been tenacious too, Brian. Glyer should change the name of his blog to “The Black Hole of Logic.” You’re right too. Whether Glyer is aware of it or not, he is endorsing and defending naked bigotry. That speaks to the power hate speech has when it’s mainstreamed behind a phony facade of oppression. This cult thinks if they call everything “privilege” we’ll go belly up because the KKK now wears plaid. Most of the comments at Xojane are anti-racist in the true sense of the word. This is a new hate speech form of blogging that gets a lot… Read more »
Brian Niemeier
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1 year 5 months ago

“These people forget that the entire world can see this shit and trust me, they are alarmed at what they are seeing in America.”

Amen to that, and these bigots’ false claims of martyrdom. I trust you, and I trust my own eyes. People are hearing the wake up call.

If nothing else, an important lesson to take away from this clown funeral is to never piss off you or Cole.

Eamon J. Cole
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Eamon J. Cole
1 year 5 months ago

The discussion is ongoing over there, for the interested.

James May
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James May
1 year 5 months ago
Well, these folks thought they were going to take over a genre I invented, boot me out, and use racial slurs on the way out the door. Reality doesn’t work like that. I’m like Bugs Bunny at the bottom of his hole minding his own business. I’m not ragging anyone and everything’s cool. Suddenly the construction guy comes along and decides he’s going to put up new housing because I’m a racist, woman-hating, homophobe. This means war. I’m not listening to these hysterical mental midgets and their stupid ’50s French ideology melded with the paranoia of women who hate heterosexuality… Read more »
60guilders
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1 year 5 months ago

Where’s the original quote from?

James May
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James May
1 year 5 months ago

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

James May
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James May
1 year 5 months ago
Worse, Cat Rambo (next SFWA president?) links us to an article (also retweeted by current president Steven Gould) titled “The Perils of Reading While Female” wherein a woman literally destroys a Saul Bellow book she disapproves of and acknowledges understanding writers who “actively hate your entire gender.” That woman is daffy feminist Sadie Doyle. She sarcastically observes she is wrongly portrayed as “an identity-politics philistine who values gender-based axe-grinding above aesthetic or intellectual concerns.” But she writes about “books by women that helped them to orient themselves within the maledominated canon or to form their own ideas of what ‘good… Read more »
Brian Niemeier
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1 year 5 months ago

“The discussion is ongoing over there, for the interested.”

You, sir, are a wrecking machine.

As for your gracious invitation, I already got exactly what I wanted out of Glyer and friends–just enough rope to hang themselves.

But if the exhibition’s still going on, I might stop by later to see how badly you’re thrashing them.

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 5 months ago

You’ll enjoy it.

Glyer essentially admits to a double standard, but it’s OK because he doesn’t think any of us white male authors are going to be pushed from the field…no matter how much Larry “abuses” Bradford.

Yes, he used that exact word.

I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

Guest
1 year 5 months ago

Their tiny little rabbit amygdalas can’t handle harsh language. 😀

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 5 months ago

I would think so.

And I don’t think it’s who Bradford and Glyer try to claim it is.

James May
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James May
1 year 5 months ago

I’m trying to imagine a black person verbally abusing a member of the KKK. I can’t. That’s a legitimate free-fire zone there.

James
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James
1 year 6 months ago

She must really HATE Doctor Who then…. You know, that horrible show written by that white cishet Steven Moffat…..

James
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James
1 year 6 months ago

Oh hey… Larry noticed that too…. Perhaps I should read the whole fisk before commenting on it……….

Guest
1 year 5 months ago

She must have loved it when it was written by Gavies, er, Davies.

Sorry, was that intolerant? But that was a perfect example of agenda trumping story or character. It was more than obvious that Jack Harkness was Davies’ personal Marty Stu.

Tully
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Tully
1 year 6 months ago

“After leaving college and realizing that the life of a corporate drone is horrendous”

Judging from her credentials, she really should add “lowest-level” to “corporate drone.” Because she doesn’t appear qualified for anything but a clerk’s job. Or HR work, perhaps, double-checking the diversity quotas. Which is still a lot less horrendous than wading through cowshit at 3 a.m., or unloading rail cars by hand and such.

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

By “corporate drone”, she meant “Starbucks barrista”.

dyingearth
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dyingearth
1 year 6 months ago

Mr. Knighton, that’s hardly fre. Starbucks barista at least actually serve me coffee, and as a consumer, that’s useful to me.

T.L. Knighton
Guest
1 year 6 months ago

Which is why she couldn’t do it.

She’d be damned if she served the Patriarchy coffee!!!!!!!

The fact that it was all she was qualified for with her degree in “individual study” or whatever is completely irrelevant.

Julie Pascal
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1 year 6 months ago

My first to leave home called me to tell me how awesome it was to be a corporate drone… full time on a regular schedule after working as a cook for a year. I have thought before that someone who can’t stand to be a “drone” hasn’t actually tried “labor”. Maybe whatever is better than a “drone” is better… but “drone” is no where near the bottom.

bassmanco
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1 year 6 months ago
Couldn’t agree more. I HATE reading all the comments from writers in my community about “Soul-sucking” jobs. EVERY job sucks at one point or another. Period. To claim otherwise is dishonest. You do what you have to in order to pay your bills. If you don’t like what you are doing, work toward another job that will provide what you need. You know what? The first thing I look for in a job is the benefits so I can take care of my wife and kids. Heaven forbid I take care of myself instead of expecting the government (ACA anyone?)… Read more »
Tully
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Tully
1 year 6 months ago

I have thought before that someone who can’t stand to be a “drone” hasn’t actually tried “labor”.

Yeah, that right there.

Zsuzsa
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Zsuzsa
1 year 5 months ago

With the exception of a few careers, most work is not fun. That’s why they have to pay you to show up.

Jordan S. Bassior
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1 year 6 months ago

She was very obviously a rich girl with rich friends, which is why her claiming that everyone ELSE lives a life of “privilege” is pretty damned funny.

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago
I don’t check all the boxes on the EEOC form for the white power club or whatever. Larry, I know I mentioned it to you a while back. You’re one of the few who knows that particular part. I’m also ADHD and dyslexic, meaning I meet the definition of disabled (though not legally since I refuse to get a damn handout). I’m also working class and have been my whole life. According to Bradford, I’m one of those who meet her requirements. Tempest, do me a favor. DO NOT SPEND A FUCKING DIME ON MY BOOKS. I don’t want your… Read more »
Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 6 months ago

If anyone reads my (hopefully future) books based on the fact I’m bisexual, likewise disabled, or even non-American, I’ll be sorely disappointed, because I’d rather people would enjoy the stories I have to tell and the worlds I painstakingly crafted. People like her are the bane of real creativity.

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

I think most of us feel that way, really.

We might meet her alleged “requirement”, but we’d rather succeed based on our ability rather than something so superficial.

Keith Glass
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1 year 6 months ago

Heck, I’m legally capable of checking off the “Native American” block. By line of male descent, I’m Iroquois enough to be legally recognized a member of the Iroquois Nation. Even been to pow-wows and sweat lodge.

And, for the most part, most of the people I met there don’t check off the block either.

We consider it unworthy, and a breach of the Way of the Warrior.

Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 6 months ago

Yeah, people like her really just help detract from the value of the ones they supposedly support, in the end. Making their merit and contribution in the art seem shallow.

Doug Northcote
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Doug Northcote
1 year 6 months ago

Well dang. I didn’t know you were an author T.L. I’ll go buy one of your books right now. Hopefully many more soon after that.

Viktor, let us know when you get some out there as well and I’ll buy some books from you too.

So strange to want to read books that are interesting and fun. Oh yeah, never forget the author GETS PAID of course!

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

Yep. I’ve got two short stories, a novelette, and a novel up on Amazon right now.

If you get them, let me know what you think. 😀

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

I should also note that Clamps things my stuff is awful, so you KNOW it’s got to be entertaining. 😀

Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 6 months ago

You have a deal there!

dyingearth
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dyingearth
1 year 6 months ago

SJW read Atlas Shrugged and thought Looter’s plan of guarantee politically acceptable plays and books being legally forced consumed by the subject of the country as a good idea. It’s not the content of the art that matters, only the politics of the ‘Artists’.

Andrew
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Andrew
1 year 6 months ago

If it makes you feel better, you probably don’t meet her requirement, since you’re a race/gender/abilist-traitor.

Viktor Gorchev
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1 year 6 months ago

Well, I’m still white, regardless of everything else, so that does make me automatically evil most times.

RabidAlien
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1 year 6 months ago

Am I the only one who reads these articles/fisks/comment sections, and uses it to add more books/authors to my already over-bloated Amazon wishlist? 🙂 I swear, Amazon has a server just for my wishlist. “Ooooo….SJW this this author is bigoted/racist/ciswhateverthatis/blahblahblah? They must be good!” “Oooooo…author with one or two books/short stories came here and publicly spoke out against SJW and didn’t rant/rave/misspell words? Gotta add them!”

…now to just find that winning lotto ticket so I can afford all of these books!

T.L. Knighton
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1 year 6 months ago

FWIW, mine are cheap.

Just sayin’. 😀

Doug Northcote
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Doug Northcote
1 year 6 months ago

RabidAlien, you’re not alone at all. My backlog of books keeps getting longer. And longer.

Not that that’s a bad thing, just tough to find the time to read them all.

Arwen
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Arwen
1 year 6 months ago

Hmm. Most of the books I read are from the fantasy/science fiction genre. Does that make me genreist?

scrapperinla
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1 year 6 months ago

Yes. Self confessed , the very worst sort at best.