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I Need Your Help (gathering links to SJW attacks in sci-fi for a news reporter)

Hey, Monster Hunter Nation and Sad Puppies Supporters, I’ve been approached by a major media outlet gathering information about our little corner of the culture war.

I mentioned bias, and specifically anti-conservative bias among the voters. They asked if I had links to blog posts, comments, etc.

I don’t keep track of most of what these people say about us. Honestly you can only get called a racist hate monger by so many crazy people before it just becomes background noise. So if you guys don’t mind, would you please post your favorites in the comments below.

James May/Fail Burton specifically, I know you are like the archivist of their racist Twitter posts. Time to bust out the files. 🙂

Thank you.

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rustypaladin
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Heck, Larry, they just put this out yesterday. It covers a broader swath than just Sci-Fi/Fantasy but it’s the same thing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexisnedd/my-reading-list-includes-nothing-written-by-white-men?fb_action_ids=10204804647828548&fb_action_types=og.comments#.phVex4XznQ

Wyldkat
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Heh. Okay, I gave her some suggestions.

Sarah Hoyt
Cedar Sanderson
Amanda Green
Larry Correia

Think any heads will implode?

dgarsys
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Vox Day – combo mexican/Native American

James May
Guest

Should be a real career boost for the SFWA clod-hoppers. People will be saying “Gee, I didn’t know the KKK were that into science fiction.”

Bruce
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Good thing I still have the Boy Scout microwave popcorn box in my desk drawer. This should be fun!

Bruce
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I dropped a note about this over amongst Hoyt’s Huns.

orangemike
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I’d think that the blogs of John Scalzi and Jim Hines would be good places to start.

Nathan
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Does anyone have the link to Scalzi’s tweet saying that he will gladly help end a writer’s career if they believe in “harassment”?

Reziac
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How would such an action not itself be harassment??

Draven
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hmmm

Jared Anders
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Hines, Scalzi, Damien, that Ian fellow who called Butcher a fascist, what’s the name of that lady who keeps calling Sarah Hoyt a Nazi?

Then there’s the group at Tor . Com, including Requires Hate and Alex whatshername.

“We want your side to keep talking” indeed…

Miguel
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Larry: you want screen caps, text & links?

Dave W.
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When I get home from work, I’ll check to see if I have any saved ones there. *getting the popcorn ready* 😀

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

I already shared my good stuff. Can’t think of anything I have that isn’t already well-known among these parts.

James May
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Although apartheid South Africa is no more, its identity-coding is not only not over but refined beyond the dreams of the stupidest possible bigot.

http://doublediamond.net/aow/recent.php

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Dan Lane
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http://madgeniusclub.com/2014/02/13/sfwa-can-haz-glittery-hoo-haa/#comment-36791

John Wesley Hardin
February 15, 2014 at 2:42 pm

“Having no other dog in this fight, I would just like to say that Vox Day is a reprehensible human being, and deserved to be forcefully ejected, not only from the SFWA, but from society in general. But that’s just my opinion.”

Summation: very little meat on that thread from this one, but that’s rather common. Drive by commenting.

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Nathan
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http://sjwar.blogspot.com/2014/11/updatedoxxing-in-name-in-social-justice.html
http://azarias.dreamwidth.org/7186.html <- Re: RH and other similar abuses: It's not what you do, it's who you know.

James May
Guest

Exactly who is this Azarias?

Nathan
Guest

I don’t know, but I found it interesting that (s)he was listing out the reactions of the Right People to Requires Hate and was disgusted by the hypocrisy. However, it’s not uncommon for bullying and harassment to be ignored if done by the Right People:

http://writeabsolutereviews.blogspot.com/2013/12/from-boing-boing-to-absolute-write-tale.html
http://writeabsolutereviews.blogspot.com/2014/07/teresa-nielsen-hayden-aka-hapisofi.html

center45
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I must admit, this is not anywhere near my wheelhouse, but I shall at least try.

An apparent nominee lamenting her name on the ballot with others. Note the disdain for others likes. You have bad taste if you like THIS book.

http://wrongquestions.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-2014-hugo-awards-thoughts-on.html?m=1

Mike
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Man, she thinks those who like the Wheel of Time have no business voting, because they don’t know what is good. In 2008, 44 million copies sold in US and Canada. According to her, none of those people should have a say in determining HUGO’s.

Julie Pascal
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I think that in addition to the SJW take over, that the literati panic of the 1990’s is still hanging on. There’s “literature” and then there’s “what people like.”

Cody McGarity
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This one actually hurts my brain. I read, I read alot. I took footlockers full of books with me to Iraq and then sent them back to be refilled and returned(this was pre-Kindle). I have read all over the spectrum, politically speaking. I like what I like, who the hell are you to tell me that what I enjoy is categorically bad. Check your tolerance!

SBP
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Frederick Peters
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From an anonymous fellow on 8chan: “An old-school libtard named Jonathan Chait wrote an article in NYMag criticizing political correctness for shutting down discussion and not being interested in free speech, and the SJW media prove him writing by openly coming out against freedom of expression, The SJW blitzkrieg has only just begun, but #ChaitGate is starting to trend on Twitter as people are looking in. The liberal establishment is feeling threatened by the SJW left, and the SJWs are firing back. Spread the word, rev up those twitter and tumblr sleeper accounts, and let’s do what we do second-best:… Read more »
Frederick Peters
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(To clarify: The part about “becoming the jews” is an inside joke of the *chan culture, much like users casually adressing each other as “fags” without any deeper meaning. Don’t get the wrong idea.)

Brian Niemeier
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“My practical experience is that the artist’s work can’t be divided from the artist’s politics.”
-Theresa Nielsen Hayden

http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/015838.html#2221662

Brian Niemeier
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“Science fiction is inherently political. It always has been.”
-Susan Jane Bigelow

https://susanjanebigelow.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/politics-are-the-heart-of-science-fiction/

James May
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Bigelow is a perfect example of a guy on the far fringes who wouldn’t even exist were it not for their identity and sheer hostility.

Brian Niemeier
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This site is a treasure trove of links to SJWs letting their masks slip.

http://farbeyondreality.com/2014/04/19/2014-hugo-nominations-the-reactions/

James May
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I’ve read a lot of those, a lot I haven’t. Seems like a great resource.

Brian Niemeier
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I take that as high praise, sir. It’s my pleasure to help however I can.

Book
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I’m trying to remember who had the list of comments of SFWA members… someone here… drat, I can’t remember his name. We’ve chatted here before. I’ll have to do a search.

Brad R. Torgersen
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Here yah go.

<a href="http://thebooksmugglers.com/2015/01/smugglivus-2014-the-airing-of-grievances.html&quot;A small clearinghouse of butthurt.

And of course, the perpetually aggrieved.

Book
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Oh boy- Brad, I hope you got a screencap of that first one. It’s been deleted.

Someone must be paying attention and is “cleaning house” as they say…

Dave W.
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The Smugglivus one is still there. The link in Brad’s post has some extra characters on the end of it, breaking it.

Working link: http://thebooksmugglers.com/2015/01/smugglivus-2014-the-airing-of-grievances.html

Also, you’re right, ho-LY crap, they’re nuts.

Book
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I may be wrong about that- maybe it’s the link.

Brian Niemeier
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The first link led me to a missing page.

Is this the one you wanted?
http://thebooksmugglers.com/2015/01/smugglivus-2014-the-airing-of-grievances.html

Brian Niemeier
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Thanks for the info on Lawrence. I’d wondered what they hell the Smugs were whining about. XL crazy bucket, indeed.

And in fairness, I acknowledge that Brad and Dave “remembered the bucket” first.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Aw, they did a gif post. How . . . original.

James May
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Surprising post from man-hating gender feminists.

Book
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Ok- not what I thought of originally, but I did remember this troll on Brad’s blog a while back. S/He expressed, in very polite terms, her belief that Larry Correia is a sexist, racist, homophobe. This person went by “Cat”- first comment here: https://bradrtorgersen.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/larry-correia-deserves-a-break/#comment-4522 Another here: https://bradrtorgersen.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/larry-correia-deserves-a-break/#comment-4573 I’m pretty sure there were more of them, but you get the drift. This person came off as nice and reasonable, and totes concerned about Larry Correia because everyone knows that he is a racist hate-monger, who is also super mean. I remembered this one because they kept demanding people show examples of… Read more »
Dr. Mauser
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Might be the same Cat who posted on File 770. Glyer had a reaction to the latest Sad Puppies Slate, and a fair amount of hate came out. http://file770.com/?p=20680 Cat says it’s all about Larry trying to get a Hugo, and another fellow said it was a list of whom to automatically put below No Award.

Dr. Mauser
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Oh, and Clammy also made an appearance over there.

Book
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Might be. The Cat on Brad’s blog had a link to a profile of herself. Not that I care who she is. Good link, BTW.

wyrdbard
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Is this the same Cat who periodically posts over on Sarah Hoyt’s blog? (Cat being a sufficiently popular moniker to raise doubt.) There are a few (usually mild) examples over there from her, when I get home I’ll try and dig them up.

overgrownhobbit
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I went to pull up a book review before ordering a book and found this gem over at Whatever (link: http://whatever.scalzi.com/2015/01/22/the-big-idea-rachel-manija-brown-and-sherwood-smith/) Quote: Our risky idea was to base the characters of our post-apocalyptic town on the people of modern Los Angeles. Its real teenagers aren’t the straight white culture-less heroes who inhabit most YA novels. Embedded in a well-meaning, attempting-to-be superversive (by their standards, but hey, it’s a start) description is the assumption that white teenagers aren’t real. Straight teenagers aren’t real. And neither have any culture. Or visit Jagi’s blog and see utter grace in action in response to… Read more »
Nathan
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Yet another Clamps sighting…

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Man, Vox isn’t even on the ballot this year, but what’s the first and only thing Clamps raves about? Sheesh.

Brian Niemeier
Guest

Now I understand how John can write so eloquently and truthfully about feminine strength.

Luke
Guest

That was a thing of beauty.

Sadly, I don’t believe he’ll learn from the experience.

Reziac
Guest

Wow. Jagi is the soul of kindness.

James May
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http://www.jamesmaystock.com/essays/Pages/SFFRacistQuotes2.html

http://www.jamesmaystock.com/essays/Pages/DeathofSF.html

The first one disappeared, maybe into spam/moderation.

As anyone following this could predict, the actual numbers of racist, sexist and supremacist quotes by social justice warriors from within the core institutions of SFF literally number in the thousands compared to statistical zero by the so-called women-hating racist white supremacists they oppose. In short, the enemy SJWs have devoted thousands of Tweets and blog posts about doesn’t even exist and never has in SFF, not in 100 years. That is about what one might expect from an ideology created by paranoid and bigoted psychopaths.

Joel Salomon
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Of course there were all the reactions to Toni’s post, where she said something like, “We might read Heinlein and they might not, but we’re all SF/F fans just the same,” and the SJWs decided to respond as if she was excluding non-RAH-readers from fandom.

(But that’s mostly one—I suspect deliberate—misreading, and everyone else skimming Toni’s essay and seeing words vaguely resembling whatever Whatever wrote.)

Book
Guest

Wait! Yes! There was something on Sarah’s blog that had a response to that nonsense- or maybe it was the Mad Genius Club… Dang. Ok, I’m off to do more searching.

tariencole
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Scalzi’s reply to that was an infamous, deliberate misreading. And then, of course, the SJWs did their usual bonfire dance quoting Scalzi instead of Toni. That was the one Larry and Sarah actually steamed over.

The Next to Last Samurai
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The Next to Last Samurai

Larry, if you start tracking Mean Stuff on the Internet, you may never come up for air. That’s a Sisyphean task if ever I heard of one.

Are these folks mad because you want a chance at awards, or mad because you exist at all? I can’t quite understand it . Anyway, good luck!

Brad R. Torgersen
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Here. This one is long, but apropos.

SirShadesDrake
Guest

Brad, it looks like Amazing pulled that one after you drew attention to it.

Murgy
Guest

You posted about the Campbell in April 2011, and mentioned the ‘british blogger’ in a post in December 2011.

Set your wayback machines, people. This has been going on a long time, in blog terms. (Real life, as well, but that’s another story for another day.) 🙂

James May
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I can’t speak for anyone but myself but I’d like to reiterate what my own issue is. There is no such thing as a bad race or sex. One might think that is obvious to any adult but it’s not to a social justice warrior, not at all. They have been gulled into believing words like “privilege,” “diversity,” “male gaze,” “rape culture,” “cis-normative,” “micro aggressions” and “white savior” mean something other than sheer hatred. They don’t. In this particular phenomenon occurring within SFF, those words are rhetorical shills for plain old garden variety hatred, racism, sexism and supremacy. In 1984… Read more »
Seamus "Majestic_Moose" Curran
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Seamus "Majestic_Moose" Curran

N. K. Jemisin, and especially how the SFWA handled her and her racism and antics vs. Vox Day. She was just as bad if not worst but he’s the one who was bootted.

Book
Guest

Where IS Fail Burton? He’s always full of good quotes. His file has to be enormous by now.

Joel Salomon
Guest

He’s here on this thread. The SJWs “doxed” him as James May few months ago and he’s been posting under his own name since then.
https://twitter.com/ann_somerville/status/473233971451424769
https://twitter.com/eilatan/status/474692351764332544
Y’see, there’s good doxing and bad doxing…

(My workplace blocks archive.today; will someone please snapshot these links before they vanish?)

Dave W.
Guest

Clamps doxed him? So not surprised there. (Do those morons realize who they’re tolerating?)

Though now when I read his posts, I hear them in my mind with James May of Top Gear’s voice 😀

Joel Salomon
Guest

They deserve to find out what they’re tolerating. I think it was when Larry joined the thread (a few months later) to warn them that they blocked him.

“Chump don’t want no help, chump don’t get da’ help!”

Book
Guest

OMG, I had no idea James/ FB had to go through that. I’m so sorry.

James May
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These folks won’t delete a thing. They truly feel they have a free-fire zone to say the most blatantly racist things and come away without a scratch. On the subject of the Requires Hate fallout, fringe and sad PoC nobody Solace Ames declared “Don’t listen to any white writers.” SFF nobody Tade Thompson created “Safe,” a safe-space for PoC writers after the M.J. Locke report about Require Hate. There, he instructs white people, “Don’t stick your nose where it doesn’t belong.” I never knew white people were wrong about everything 100% of the time, except for when they attack themselves;… Read more »
richard mcenroe (@richard_mcenroe)
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Dr. Mauser
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Good lord, they even invoke social justice in the banner for that one….

Dave W.
Guest

That banner triggered me! *sobs*

:-p

James May
Guest

I loved the way they used the word “bigot” as if they know what it means and apply it evenly across the board using some form of principle. That’s the single most weird and striking thing about social justice warriors: their obsession with fighting bigotry and having no actual definition for the word. As far as I can tell the SJW definition for the word “bigot” is “not me,” “whites,” “men,” “heterosexuals,” “Christians,” “the West,” “conservatives.”

richard mcenroe (@richard_mcenroe)
Guest

“Wait a minute, an avowed rightwinger like Larry Correia condescends only to white men, albeit white men of the political left, whereas Justin Landon, who probably is nowhere near Correia politically, condescends to women? Wow, the world is really messed up.”

http://corabuhlert.com/2013/04/04/hugo-nomination-reactions-or-why-the-fuck-is-this-controversial/

James May
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Second-hand Nazi East German guard dogs bark every time Frau Buhlert makes a post.

Patrick Chester
Guest

…I thought it was horses crying out in terror at the mention of her name.

richard mcenroe (@richard_mcenroe)
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RS
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I just went and read this page and I could totally relate to the Facebook comments by people who just packed up and left SFF fandom and writing altogether. I had an active blog since 2005 doing tons of reviews and commentary on the genre and did my level best to stay out of the political fray but it wouldn’t leave me alone. My blog was featured as one of the “bad” ones that didn’t have more reviews of books by women than by men. Never mind the fact that two of the regular reviewers on the blog were men–… Read more »
Reziac
Guest

Relevant to the complaints of “not enough female authors being reviewed”:

http://www.torbooks.co.uk/blog/2013/07/10/sexism-in-genre-publishing-a-publishers-perspective

Mike Glyer
Guest

And marry, sir, they have committed false report; moreover, they have spoken untruths; secondarily, they are slanders; sixth and lastly; they have belied a lady; thirdly, they have verified unjust things; and, to conclude, they are lying knaves.

James May
Guest

What’s the sober version of that?

Jared Anders
Guest

Who wants a sober version when you already have the Bard version?

(Best delivery ever – Nathan Fillion)

keranih
Guest

Oh, I disagree – Michael Keaton was stellar in the KB version.

Dave W.
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And the winner for the Most Obtuse Post of the Day……. *golf clap*

Paul Weimer
Guest

You might as well add *me* to your little list. You’ve named a lot of people I am sympatico with and talk with every day.

James May, in his Fail Burton persona, has at least once named me as a social justice warrior ruining science fiction.

And Sarah Hoyt has banned me from her blog…twice.

John C Wright and his wife are friends with me, but I guess no one is perfect, right?

Best Regards,
Paul Weimer

Dave W.
Guest

“Little list”? Why, have you called anyone here a racist hatemonger just because you didn’t like their politics? Have you publicly expressed a desire to see any of us here “die in a fire”? You see, to get mentioned here, you had to actually DO something other than just have unacceptable badthink. So what are your qualifications for the list? Don’t think you’re getting on it for free!

crazdmadman
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Mr Weimer, aka princejvstan, probably hasnt said anyone needs to die in a fire, I dont think he has enough guts to that, but he certainly hasnt complained when people have, or put down that can of gas he likes to carry around.

Ive listend to, and read, enough comments from him in the last couple years to think his passive agressive, cowardly commentary, his habit of talking about someone without talking about someone, is probably worse than the folks like “requires only that you hate” that say it directly.

James May
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And it’s not like we didn’t try and do this the right way. How many of us left comments at Tor, Locus, Black Gate, Luhrs, Buhlert, Whatever, Hines, and an entire range of others only to be dishonestly engaged by smug warnings, stupid insults, bannings and deletions? Okay, fine – I can write HTML too. You want to be talked about rather than to? No problem. You can’t stop the signal. And to be fair, I’ll even signal-boost your signal. I will provide accurate, sourced quotes linked to in order to provide full context of the original quote. No innuendoes,… Read more »
James May
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No one’s unfairly signed you up for an ideology you haven’t embraced with both arms. You are the Forrest Gump of SFF. In doing research I’ve been utterly amazed at how often you are right there in a comments section of any post that talks smack about whites, men or heterosexuals and replying “Yup, you betcha.” If there was an award for that you’d win hands down. If you want to stop being portrayed as an intersectional Gunga Din carrying water for a bunch of racists and freaks by writing things about smashing the patriarchy then the simple solution is… Read more »
45er
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James, again as has been stated in the past, if you have “pictures” from your “camera” then show them. If you have evidence of racism, link to it. Obscure references and tangiential bloviating don’t really prove a point.

Joel Salomon
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Have you not seen the quote-filled pages Mr May has linked to elsewhere in this comment thread?

45er
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Sorry, Joel’s reply made me realize that James’ reply to a reply was not directed at who I thought it was directed at (LC) hence my confusion at how off in left field it sounded.

lampwright
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We love you, Paul. Don’t lose heart!

Paul Weimer
Guest

Thank you Jagi. 🙂

Jared Anders
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I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but to be here talking with you all (Sadly I’ve missed most of this here) while simultaneously having exchanges like: Cora Buhlert ‏@CoraBuhlert · 16h16 hours ago @PrinceJvstin That guy is just a piece of fucking shit. Paul Weimer ‏@PrinceJvstin · 16h16 hours ago @CoraBuhlert word Well, color me unimpressed. Then of course there is this little gem: Paul Weimer ‏@PrinceJvstin · 16h16 hours ago @CoraBuhlert @sblackmoore @QQwill I have observed women are disproportionately attacked by his ilk. Personally I think women and men are equal, so if I disagree with… Read more »
Jared Anders
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(Yeah, I’ve gone into full snark mode. So sue me.) The only thing I can think of is they’re counting Hines, Scalzi, and Damien as women, because really, they’re the people who seem to get into tiffs with most. Of course a lot of them also seem convinced that the lot of us are just a hair away from going postal with our guns, hence you see things like. Cora Buhlert ‏@CoraBuhlert · 17h17 hours ago @Cecily_Kane @PrinceJvstin @sblackmoore @QQwill Well, I’m a continent away from him and his big guns, so I’m not worried. Paul Weimer ‏@PrinceJvstin · 17h17… Read more »
James May
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Yeah, well… notice how they construe an attack on an ideologue who happens to be a woman as an attack on “women”… all women. That’s the typical lying SJWs engage in. It’s an ideology constructed of straw men: whites hate blacks, men hate women, straights hate gays. Naturally then any demographic that is white straight male is seen as hateful. That’s how they “know” Golden Age SF was racist and sexist; they don’t have to read the stories, just know the demographics. It’s typical Stormfront “bad neighborhood” bullshit. No one in their right mind would construe attacking the KKK as… Read more »
Joel Salomon
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The “little list” is not one of “society offenders who might well be underground,/And who never would be missed,” but of things said—misrepresentations of Larry or Brad or Sad Puppies and such.

And though I’m sure the nobility of your gesture will be appreciated, volunteering yourself is not actually helpful unless you’re also posting links to any times you might have called Larry a racist hatemonger or something like that. (If you’ve not actually said anything of that sort, then no matter how annoying an SJW you might be this list is not for you.)

Paul Weimer
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Thank you all for your feedback. Perhaps I shouldn’t have commented here. Perhaps I should have expressed myself better.

Life goes on. It always does.

James May
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James May
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That’s what you call a well-trained seal.

lampwright
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Can’t see how to comment back to Larry, so I’ll leave my comment here. Paul and I go way back…we both share a great love of Zelazny and Amber. I am very fond of Paul and will continue to be so…even if he might now regret having dropped by here…for the same reason that I just told Yama that I will continue to be fond of Vox. Because friends, like good stories, should be judged by other standards than just their politics. 😉 But, that aside, I am very glad that you are doing this, Larry. Some of what is… Read more »
lampwright
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It occurs to me that, being here at our host’s place, I should speak up on the other side as well. Paul, do not judge our host by the fearsomeness of his Tweets. (Today of all days, you are probably aware of how little we would all like to be judged by our performance on Twitter) Larry is a true gentleman. He is kind, great-hearted, helpful. He is a good man who really lives what he believes in–in a way that many don’t. He doesn’t put himself forward, but if you look into him a bit, you’ll see some of… Read more »
Daniel
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Larry, I love your work, Grimnoir chronicles especially, but as a guy who really wishes there were still some moderate republicans left to vote for I’m getting a little tired of hearing the most empowered class in our society claim victim hood status because “the media” is out to get them.

bassmanco
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Daniel, you are either oblivious or stupid. Hoping for oblivious.

lampwright
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I note that some of the links here lead to expressions of hatred. Others strike me as enthusiastic spouting off of people who just happen to disagree with the prevalent ideas here. Our host is a fair-minded fellow. I am sure he will wisely discern between the two.

Andrew
Guest

There’s enough real crazy in the world to fill a book.

Dan Lane
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Certainly. The difference is between those who merely believe that we are wrong and those who choose to believe that we are evil. With the former we can disagree without great consequence. Prefer non-binary gender over “Manly Men doing Manly Things”? No worries, there’s plenty out there to satisfy such tastes. The latter would see us “die in a fire” or be “forcefully ejected from society in general.” With the one, we could attend a SFF convention without much problem. After all, we both love sci-fi, though different flavors. The other would “not feel safe” in a room with any… Read more »
Dr. Mauser
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Dan, there’s actually a webcomic for that. “Manly Guys doing Manly Things”: http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/

trumanj1
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Julie Pascal
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The one truly unacceptable thing is for a child not to LIKE to read. When did that happen? Some people don’t like to read, even when they can read well. Some people (crazy that they are) don’t like to read fiction at all, they’d rather read informative articles or something that is true… a biography or a book on how to build something. They just don’t *care* about made up stories. Or maybe they’d rather not read at all and would rather build something or go outside and run around. When did we start treating these kids as broken and… Read more »
Julie Pascal
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Incidentally… if you watch all the way through, what the main woman interviewed says about her second daughter who didn’t like to read is exactly what Larry says, and Sarah and others say all the time. Her daughter hated to read, and what she was given by teachers was full of civil rights angst but she found Artemis Fowl and discovered books that she loved to read.

It’s not about the check-lists, it’s about the story.

maniakmedic
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I’ve always loved reading, but I was lucky I had a dad with a love of reading and a large collection of SFF that he let me pick through. So I knew early on that the stupid stuff they made us read in school wasn’t the end-all-be-all of books. If that hadn’t been the case, it may have taken me longer to truly realize that “The Great Gatsby,” “The Grapes of Wrath,” “The Scarlet Letter,” and even “Huckleberry Finn” were not indicative of all fiction. I hated every single one of those.

Austin
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Hell, the same thing goes for writing. Back in school, they’d give boring assignments where you had to write about the “symbolism” in the “classics.” I hated it, but learned to do it because I don’t like to give less than my best. Then, come college, we get technical papers. Those aren’t bad, but they are boring. And it turned out I was usually the best writer in the group, so unless I wanted to get a mediocre grade (which would mean a mediocre job at graduation) I would have to write the damn thing. Recently, I’ve been DMing a… Read more »
60guilders
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The problem is that I don’t think they do it on purpose. Instead, they simply jump to “everyone loves books like I do”–because they were trained by education and English academics, and mostly hung out with other English majors–and proceed to botch everything.

Sir Brass
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I always loved reading, but that’s mostly thanks to a mother who read to me A LOT when I was too young to read, and helped me to read when I was learning (when I was learning, we read Fellowship of the Ring together at night where she’d read a page aloud to me, then I’d read a page aloud, and fall asleep within a few pages). And then she encouraged me and helped me find books that I liked. She’s the one who introduced me to Robert A. Heinlein, which is what began my absolute LOVE of good SF/F,… Read more »
Dr. Mauser
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Wait a minute, They got to the first kid who didn’t like to read, and all they got out of him was a Shrug. Then suddenly we cut to an adult with an agenda telling us WHY he doesn’t read, facts which are NOT in evidence.

Julie Pascal
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Exactly. Maybe he just doesn’t like fiction and would rather read about real things. Maybe he’s dyslexic and no one really knows (which is common enough.) Maybe he’s just too distracted or he’d rather play his video game. The first couple of kids loved to read and we’d think they’ve got the same books available as he does. There is nothing at all in the video other than the *assertion* that this lack of children of color in children’s literature is the problem. The woman they interviewed at length gave her supporting anecdote which didn’t support any of the assertions… Read more »
James May
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https://twitter.com/shaunduke/status/563146523832500224

If it’s so goddam clear then quote it. Let’s hear it. You mean 14th Amendment everyone’s welcome? I can see where that might gnaw at your goofy ideology of fake oppression and invisible Jim Crow.

James May
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Well, I was reading them on Twitter just now and they feel sure you hate Muslims, GLBI#L!H people, any non-whites, all women.

Just like the Golden Age of SF is chock full of racist colonialism satirical jabs at black people they can never actually show us, they have no quotes to go with their allegations. Being sure trumps facts.

Ranba Ral
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Dunno if it has anything about the sci-fi or literary community specifically, but there’s a subreddit called “Stormfront or SJW” where it’s a guessing game whether it’s someone like the neo-nazis or ISIS, or a SJW, has answers and links or screenshots of the originals. Only looked at it when it was first created because a friend was laughing at it. It was surprisingly hard to tell the difference.

James May
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I’ll hit this one on the head again because it bears repeating: SJWs value identity (appearance) above principle. That means the simplest comparisons are unavailable to them. They are literalists. You constantly see them fail at simple analogies and metaphors. SJWs literally don’t see their own bigotry or understand why we’re miffed. SJWs don’t understand a thing like a shared intellectual and philosophical space. That means there can never be a thing LIKE neo-Nazism, but only neo-Nazism itself. That also means racism becomes static, forever trapped in whatever a white person did that has come to their attention. When you… Read more »
Austin
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I still love the game of replacing the name of the SJW’s hated-group-of-the-day with Jews and trying to spot the difference between it and an actual Nazi propaganda piece.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Fresh off the Twitter presses:

“Fran ‏@Franellece · 18m18 minutes ago
Larry Correia i hope you die a horrible death”

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

I also point out his twitter profile shows the non-Larry related Monster Hunter game. Could this be a poor taste joke? English appears not to be the poster’s first language.

Richard Cartwright
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http://www.pretty-terrible.com/2015/01/09/links-010915/
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Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Clamps sighting in comments!

You know, for a guy who shouldn’t be online, he’s sure online a lot.

James May
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It’s amazing how N.K. Jemisin and Nalo Hopkinson continually use so many words to say white people are immoral, spiritless and oppressive morons.

And no, pie-charting an anthology won’t lower quality. Just look at the rich legacy of the Tiptree Awards and last year’s Hugos. And that’s not including “Oh, stupid white people, let me count the ways. Your innate racism is as myriad as those lights in the night sky, whatever they are… comets, or something…”

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

James Nicoll weighs in:

http://james-nicoll.livejournal.com/5241059.html

Also, Clamps. And Ann Leckie.

Jared Anders
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Wait. Their take-away from reading all of this is we’re “scarred for life because we were forced to read Huck Finn.”

Da frak?

That and they think this is just a summation of “trash talk on twitter.”

The reading comprehension is high in this one.

No, wait. The other opposite.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Doesn’t surprise me. Nicoll has a raging hate-on for all things Baen.

maniakmedic
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While I did mention above that I hated Huck Finn, I am not scarred for life having read it. It was a stupid book that I’ll never read again, nor force on any hypothetical children I may have in the future. If they want to read it on their own, I’m fine with it. But I won’t make them read it, even if it is considered great American literature. In my eyes, it sucks. And anything by William Shakespeare is on the list right next to it. If that means I’m “scarred for life,” I must be one big mass… Read more »
Draven
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Ironic, considering how many of the basic plots in literature can be pointed to Shakespeare plays as accessible examples. But then, you’re probably too busy hating Shakespeare to notice.

maniakmedic
Guest

Fuck off, Draven. Shakespeare was overly wordy and obtuse. The stories I enjoy, I’ve just got better things to do with my time than puzzle out what the hell the guy was talking around.

Draven
Guest

In the stories you like to read, does Spot ever stop running?

Jared
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You know, I love Shakespare. I already had the quote used here from Much Ado memorized. I also do stuff like read Don Quioxte in the original Spanish and reread Our Mutual Friend every year because I enjoy it so much. (I also read kid’s books and low end fantasy novels, and everything in-between, so whatever.) But I can absolutely positively understand why someone, anyone, wouldn’t like those books and authors. Especially if you’re forced to read them at a young age by teachers, well meaning or not. So, with all due respect Draven, bugger off. If he doesn’t like… Read more »
Feather Blade
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Wait. Their take-away from reading all of this is we’re “scarred for life because we were forced to read Huck Finn.”

What, really?

I thought they all thought Huck Finn was a terrible racist book that no one should ever have to read because racism and triggering…

And now they’re using schoolhouse-inculcated dislike of said book as an insult?

…will it make more sense if I start drinking?

Dave W.
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The sheer irony of Clamps trying to accuse ANYONE of stalking….. ohhhh, I need a moment to catch my breath! 😀

richard mcenroe (@richard_mcenroe)
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Draven, I’m only grateful we shall never be graced with your opinions of Euripides, Sophocles and Aristophanes.

roystgnr
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My personal example would be Scalzi’s reaction to this point. His defense against uttering racist sexist generalizations that insult and minimize the difficulties of suffering people is that it’s okay as long as you do it behind their back.

More recently I was astonished to find him attacking someone for teaching women how to protect themselves from rapists, but you’ve probably got that incident on the list already…

Jared Anders
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What gets me is how ethnocentric these people are. Sure, in America, Australia and large chunks of Europe white people (straight or otherwise) are the majority, and hold a lot of the positions of power. But in focusing on that they’re disregarding a third of North America, South America, Pretty much all of Africa, most of Asia, and all the major islands I can think of off hand besides Great Brittan. Have they never been somewhere where white isn’t the majority? Ever? I have. Lived in Mexico for two years. Learned Spanish. Forgot some English even. And as much as… Read more »
talldave2
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Reminds me of the MSNBC anchor talking about “African-Americans” in France.

James May
Guest

Here’s a three-fer courtesy of the pesky able-bodied white cis-males who screwed up the world:

https://twitter.com/StevenGould/status/563380306707623937

James May
Guest

https://twitter.com/jolantru/status/563245795634212866

https://twitter.com/jolantru/status/563326894578233344

https://twitter.com/jolantru/status/563305696117010433

Great. Take your stinking racism, supremacy, your “people” and anti-white racial revenge fantasy anthologies like We See a Different Frontier you were in with you. I’ve declared SFF an UNESCO World Heritage Site free from “cultural appropriation” by non-indigenous outsiders. Sorry about that. Got the idea from your “people.”

How does your own bullshit sound when it’s parroted back at you? Kinda racist, isn’t it?

DaveP.
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…she said, appropriating the native language of the white colonialist oppressors.

James May
Guest
“As a person whose country (Singapore) is postcolonial, I guess I am struggling with the fact that I write in the language of the dominant culture of the readers.” “I get the feeling that white Americans and British people are still grappling with the concept of race. To them, privilege hides everything and gives them a pass in issues so complicated for disentangling and dismantling. Their word means everything. Why are they still uppity and arrogant when it comes to writing fiction with people of color and minority groups?” – Joyce Chng I have the easy answer to that: white… Read more »
DaveP.
Guest

James- in case there was any confusion I was talking about Joyce.

Joel Salomon
Guest

Here we go…
https://twitter.com/Nero/status/563420873332637696
grabs popcorn

talldave2
Guest

Sorry, random O/T recommendation: “The Crusades, Christianity, and Islam, written by the most distinguished historian of the Crusades, the Cambridge University scholar Jonathan Riley-Smith. A transcription of the Bampton Lectures he delivered in October 2007 at Columbia University, it is a thin book, brimming with insights, approachable by anyone interested in the subject.” Really interesting how much contrast there is between popular myth and historical reality.

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richard mcenroe (@richard_mcenroe)
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You know, Larry, your ilk, those 300-lb somewhat-other-than-pasty-white “gentle giants” who go around causing so much trouble. I’m sure Paul has seen all the protest marches. He just KNOWS!

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James May
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We should probably all thank LC for acting as a central clearing house for this pushback. In the space of only 2 years we’ve gone from being beggars at the mercy of racist moderators in their own spaces to creating our own spaces. We tried to engage and debate and debate honestly and were denied. Conversely, we now have largely unmoderated spaces which show two things: that we do not in fact hate women or non-whites or consider them second-class citizens, a thing that was a straw man lie all along. The second is to offer what we were denied… Read more »
lucillalin
Guest

My ancestors were raided by Cossacks during wars and sold to Crimea. As a history student I would love history to stop being about chips on today’s folks shoulders – if the handwringing would stop, we would have better historical entertainment! I’d love to see a movie about that Moroccan sultan, who tried building a palace rivalling Versailles with the European slave force. Or about Silk Road merchants selling tea and buying Eastern european slaves. When history gets turned in to a morality play, so many fascinating stories get lost

Brian Niemeier
Guest

Thanks, Larry!

And we’d be remiss not to thank Mr. May for his tireless archiving.

Christopher M. Chupik
Guest
Christopher M. Chupik

My ancestors included Ukrainian peasants, not exactly a privileged people.

Jared
Guest
Heh. My ancestors on one side immigrated to America in the 1600’s some time – from Ireland. There is a real possibility they came here as slaves. Some of their countrymen certainly did. Then they got to deal with all of the crap of the Mormon persecution from Ohio all the way to Utah. On the other side my family lived in Friesland (north Holland) for more than a thousand years, first being conquered by the Dutch, then the French, (well, Napoleon anyway) and then my grandfather personally had to deal with the Nazi’s invasion, working as a double agent… Read more »
richard mcenroe (@richard_mcenroe)
Guest

You thieving, hoarding kulak, you…

lucillalin
Guest
James May’s links makes me wonder if these sjw- types know that the Internet makes the scene international. Their nonsense about “white people” being this and that gets read by us pale Europeans too. What, we don’t have culture? We are all colonialists and descendants of slave traders, even us whose “privileged” ancestors spent more time hiding from Cossacks than lounging in a plantation? Naively I first thought that they are not really racist but just have narrow anglocentric view on history. It’s weird that part of the speculative writers community has become so racially divisive and antagonistic, while at… Read more »
Jared
Guest

Yeah. Real ethnocentric group. It’s like for them the whole world (or rather, *their* whole world) is dominated by white men, and anywhere that isn’t might as well not exist.

Podsnappery at its finest.

(It’s from Dickens, btw, Podsnap was an arrogant rich British business man who, with a flourish of his hand, banished entire continents and peoples as irrelevant, to nonexistence, even because they didn’t conform to his ideal of Britishness.)

Kevin Findley
Guest

Having had the pleasure to run around with fandom in Europe and England, that would be a crying shame if it happened.

Book
Guest

Reading through the thread this morning… wow. They really can’t help themselves, can they? They KNOW Larry has been contacted asking for quotes- and they can’t help but supply more. SMH.

Doqz
Guest

Given the the entire thread is full of rather depressing SJW nonsense, though you folks would get a kick out of this:

The Antidote to the “Safe Spaces” on Campuses

http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2015/02/08/heres_to_a_guy.html

John R. Ellis
Guest

I nearly lost it when I scrolled down and read about how the Sexual Identity people are going to tackle AGRICULTURE, because plants have sex to reproduce and OMG, nobody is viewing this process through a Sexual Identity lens!!!!!!!1111!!!!1111ONE!

…probably because the term “male” and “female” in plant reproduction has nothing much to do with what it means in mammalian primates. o_o;

Shawn Randall
Guest

Don’t know if anyone else has seen this by Robert Stacy McCain in Twitter.
Social Justice Warrior Syndrome: White person, weird hair, piercings, abnormal sexuality, mood disorder and radical politics

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