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Thoughts on the Islamic Terrorist Attack in France

I’m sick of this.

There was yet another Islamic terrorist attack, this time against a satirical magazine in France. Twelve people dead because they believed in free speech.

First off, let’s keep the people of France in our prayers. I know a lot of French people now. They’re good people. They don’t deserve this. Nobody deserves this.

Second, to the moral equivalence crowd, and their inevitable cries about how everybody is all equally the same, and Christians and Jews have done bad things too, and their fears about the inevitable backlash against Muslims that never materializes because the west aren’t barbarians… To you people, to the smug, self-righteous leftists, go to hell.

Just like everybody else, I got up this morning and checked the internet. I read the reports. Those pissed me off, but they aren’t shocking at this point. Islamic terrorists saw people’s heads off, blow up buildings, busses, trains, marathons, shoot up hospitals, shoot up schools, kidnap hundreds of girls to rape them and sell them as sex slaves, on and on and on. They do this often in countries where they can operate with impunity, and they do it occasionally in the west when they can get away with it.

This particular attack hit the west, and it was galling because it struck directly at one of our sacred values, free speech, the ability to speak out against whatever we are feel compelled to speak against. So of course, the apologist cowards in western media started blurring out pictures of the offending cartoons.

It is asinine. Islamic terrorists recently massacred a school. A whole school. Hundreds of kids. Hell, hundreds of Muslim kids, but that didn’t get hardly any attention in the western media. Instead, a fabricated story about some woman in a head scarf getting shamed by racist Australians got more coverage. A lie about how the west might be surly in the wake of hostages being murdered got more coverage than actual evil.

Because of my job I follow a lot of authors, artists, and creative types, so I noticed something this morning. Many of them were compelled to say something about the events in France, but most of them wouldn’t say anything about who did this horrible thing. They talked about tragedy, and violence, and shootings, and terror, but very few would come out and say anything about the actual bad guys. Anybody who did mention the actual bad guys had to put in the obligatory Most Muslims are Peaceful disclaimer and then walk on eggshells to avoid being slandered as hatemongers by their followers who are members of the Goodthink Police.

I felt like writing something here. But then I felt this momentary pang of dread. What if my words make somebody angry? What if I upset them? And that’s when it hit me, every single public figure, every person with an audience, felt that same doubt. That same little bit of fear that evil Islamic lunatics would take offense and kill them. No matter how unlikely or irrational, they felt it.

And that is exactly what evil wants.

I saw a cartoonist friend of mine post about this, and it struck me that he said this made him doubt humanity, it made him doubt his species. He’s a good man. He was emotional because these were his peers murdered this time. I told him that it wasn’t most humans. It was one particular group of humans. And that group’s goal is to make people like him afraid to speak. They want authors, artists, speakers, preachers, politicians, journalists, everyone afraid to name them, afraid to talk about them, afraid to question them, afraid to point out the obvious.

One of the fundamental tenet of western civilization is our ability to speak freely. Anything that stops free speech is evil, but with these evil men, throw that complaint on the pile. It is just another atrocity among many. But this post isn’t about them. The only way to deal with terrorists is to destroy them. For most of us, that is out of our hands. For that reason I sincerely hope GIGN spends the next few days fruitfully tracking down and shooting everybody involved.

This post is about us, the regular people. The people they want to scare. Every time one of us doesn’t write or say what we want, we give in. When newspapers blur out the “offensive” cartoons while simultaneously running self-righteous op-eds about free speech, we give them exactly what they want.

Public figures are worried about men in balaclavas blowing up their house for talking. Regular folks are worried about the social justice crowd slandering them as racist hatemongering bigots for talking. Either way, people aren’t talking, and that’s stupid. The “religion of peace” needs to get its house in order. Do you really believe that is going to happen while the only people who can speak freely are militant imams and everybody else is cowed?

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Hamm81
Guest

Thanks for saying it, Larry.

Kristophr
Guest

I suggest reprisals.

As far as I am concerned a declaration of war against Yemen is in order, for failing to keep their animals in line.

Followed by nukes. Screw them. They want to allow acts of war to emenate from their citizens, then make them pay for it.

The Phantom
Guest

Bad idea. Evidently you’ve never seen real war. It sucks.

I have a counter proposal: stop paying welfare to immigrants and stop banning the private ownership of firearms.

Job done, total cost of implementation is negative, we -save- money.

Ask yourself why this isn’t Priority 1 in the West.

Kristophr
Guest

What we did in Iraq and Afghanistan was not a real war. It was another damned police action.

Do not occupy Yemen. Just wreck the damned place. Leave it in flames. Thirty minutes, and the war is over.

Yes, war should be horrible … for the enemy, if you are doing it right. Dar al Islam declared war on the West on 9-11. We are already at war, Phantom. It is about time we started fighting to win.

Keith Glass
Guest

Other than 1990 and 2001-3 that wasn’t a real war. Hell, by the time we left, it was barely harsh language.

If we ever decided to have a REAL war, it would be noticeable. Cities in flames and rubble. And surviving Islamics will have learned the lesson to NOT mess with us. But we haven’t fought Total War since 1945, and I’m sad to say, are unlikely to do so until after the day we lose a city or three to a terrorist nuke.

Luke
Guest

Dar al Islam declared war on the West many centuries before 9-11. They’d just been impotent at it for a century. (And still remain mostly so. We just have vocal cowards who want to appease them.)

Bruce
Guest

MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction. It worked because:
1. We had the ability to “destroy” the Soviet Union if they tried anything.
2. They believed we really would destroy them if they tried anything.

For the last ~50 years, extreme islam have…cowed the west. We have tried to accommodate them, we’ve tried to appease them, we’ve held Israel back, we haven’t done anything, in their minds, but bluster and show weakness. They have no fear of reprisal, because they have never seen/experienced anything but the velvet glove.

It is time, past time, that we remove the velvet glove.

CombatMissionary
Guest

1. Remove most gun control.
2. Put Larry in charge of self-defense courses to be mandatory for all adults (taking the course is mandatory, gun ownership is optional).
3. Stand Your Ground and Castle Doctrine laws rammed into effect.
4. Begin mass deportations of all non-citizen Muslims.

THIS is the model to follow. Then, if the attacks happen, they’ll be happening because they’re either funded by a specific state, which can then be reduced to rubble, or they’ll be funded by criminal organizations that are tolerated by a specific state, which can, again, be reduced to rubble.

Kristophr
Guest

And now it is looking like France has a casus beli against the US:
http://youtu.be/EJm_JwcXZw0

Thanx, President Obama, for siccing the .gov on TEA Party folks, and telling us we are awful for thinking moslems in the US are dangerous.

The French government should demand that all of this terrorist’s co-conspirators, and his US Imam, should be arrested, and sent to France for trial. I’d like to see what Obambam does.

Kristophr
Guest

OK, they are retracting the American reference. Nevermind.

The Phantom
Guest
Well said. My observation is that if all the people taking pictures with their iPhones had a pistol on them, the death toll would have been three dead terrorists. Gun control works, just not the way Lefties tell you its supposed to. I foresee gun control and Liberalism becoming a lot less popular in France in the near future. Cue the #I’llRideWithYou morons trying to defend their brand in 3… 2…1… Oh by the way, if any of y’all don’t want to get really angry and start throwing stuff at your monitor, don’t watch the videos from this thing. Do… Read more »
blottogg
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Funny, I had the same idea when I saw the footage. Distance was a little rangy for a pistol, but nice line-of-sight, stationary target unaware of my presence, little risk of over-penetration. At the least it might have saved the life of the wounded gendarme those animals executed on the sidewalk.

The Phantom
Guest

Yeah, you know, at least we could have made them DUCK, right? Given them something with teeth in it to worry about.

It just enrages me to see these mutts running around completely unafraid, shooting whoever they want, because they know they’re the only armed men in a two mile radius of their location.

They should try this shit in Arizona, see how they make out there. Or Tel Aviv. They would have got capped by some old grandma down there.

CombatMissionary
Guest

How about we start a new hashtag campaign directed at France? Does anyone know how to say #I’llshootwithyou in French? [EVIL GRIN]

Mike M.
Guest

Je tirerai avec vous

saintonge235
Guest

The Phantom wrote:
“I foresee gun control and Liberalism becoming a lot less popular in France in the near future.”

I am not nearly so optimistic.

The Phantom
Guest

I admit that it may take a lot more atrocities, but eventually -everybody- will be carrying no matter what the laws say.

DaveP.
Guest

I guess the French nation is going to have to make a choice as to which it wants more: multiculturalism, or freedom. Here’s hoping they choose the right one.

Tom Simon
Guest

The French nation has never particularly wanted freedom. This is the country that invented dirigisme, both the word and the actual thing. Liberté is a pretty word over the courthouse doors, but it has no more to do with the real ideology of France than its yoke-fellow, fraternité.

The real question is whether they prefer multiculturalism or survival.

Eamon J. Cole
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Thank you for speaking, sir.

Joe
Guest

I follow a # of Sci fi & comics writers on Twitter. During the Boston Bombings & the ensuing manhunt I was quite busy at work, never got a chance to creep online. When I did, all of the lefties posted pics of the suspects, the very white suspects. They were over joyed that they were apparently not muslims, when the truth came out….crickets…its a worldview, they cannot help themselves.

dgarsys
Guest

Remember the weeks of angst over the Beltway sniper in the early 00’s?

Every tired clinton-era trope was dragged out. MUST be a white supremacist/racist/antigovt militia kook.

Nope.

Over and over again in the last decade we’ve had shootings, and haranguing and wailing over how it had nothing to do with islam.

Every once in a looooooooong while, they were actually right.

But generally?

g2-d5d821cd9a153de9df40eec30fb1e777
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As Mark Steyn would say, now we get to play the exciting game “Crazy or Muslim”, where we figure out why the killers did this. Are they insane, or were they acting out of religious motivations.

Rule one: the correct answer is always ‘Crazy,’ and never ‘Muslim.’

Adam Lawson
Guest

Every time they get up in arms over a portrayal of Mohammed I’m reminded of the disgusting “Piss Christ” “art” exhibit, and all the artists murdered by Christians after it.

Except only the first part of that happened.

Maybe they need thirty something years of comedians snarking out “edgy” jokes at their expense to toughen them up like us. After all, Christian terrorists are about as rare as honest politicians and Lord knows we get mocked.

Too bad the mainstream doesn’t have the stones.

T.
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I’m not prepared to paint anyone with the broad brush group-think ideology, for good of bad. At the end of the day, regardless of the group in question or their size, you have two extremes on either end and then every flavor in between, ad infinitum. For this very reason I’m also not prepared to say that “Most Muslims are peaceful”, because that too is a broad brush. And how the fuck would I really know anyway? I will say this though… FUCK the people who did this, fuck the people who put them up to it, and while we’re… Read more »
jnials
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I disagree. Islam is a political ideology masquerading as a religion. It has it’s own set of laws (sharia), it’s own polity (caliphate), has announced war against the rest of the world (Dar al Harb, or house of war). See: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Dar_al-Harb

Islam considers itself my enemy. Why should I not consider myself the enemy of Islam?

Civilis
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As Larry points out above, the most recent big attack before this was an attack on a school full of Muslim kids in Pakistan. In a speech at an Islamic university (surprisingly (sarcasm) ignored by the MSM) the president of Egypt called for major reforms of Islam. I’d rather have to fight as few people as possible at the same time. Right now, a subset of Militant Islamism is actively at war with the West. Many of the rest have a lot to answer for, and are definitely not on our side, but treating them all the same is a… Read more »
saintonge235
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No, Islam makes no distinction between “religion” and “politics”. It’s a religion and a political ideology. (“It’s a floor wax AND a desert topping.”)

Marcus White
Guest

Fair enough. There were those who said similar things about National Socialism and that sure turned out well.

James May
Guest

Nazism wasn’t a few bad apples, it was Nazism. There are sociopaths, and then there are entire cultures taught to be sociopaths. One is a criminal, the other a criminal ideology. You don’t have to paint anyone with anything, the ideology and actions people take in its name will do that for you. These were not bad apples or bank robbers, but people radicalized by an ideology.

Kristophr
Guest

Islam requires war against Dar al Harb … you know, everyone who is not islamic?

There are Islamics who are crazy enough to pick up a rifle, and then there are Islamics who merely contribute Zakat and let others pick up the rifle. And then there are lapsed Islamics, who just keep a low profile.

There are no good Islamics.

blottogg
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So, you’ve met all the Muslims, and not found a good one in the bunch? Wow, glad to hear from such an authority. I’d certainly never assume that you’ve demonized an entire religion based on the behavior of a few murderous thugs claiming to adhere to it. Following the same “logic” are you holding all gun owners responsible for these animals because they chose to use guns in their murderous rampage? Or do you actually know something about gun owners…enough to know that *that* generalization is bullshit? Islam hasn’t declared war on the west, radicals within Islam have. Generalizing and… Read more »
snelson134
Guest

Obviously, you have never read the Koran.

blottogg
Guest
I haven’t read the entire Quran (nor have most of the readers and posters here, I’d wager). But among the things I’ve found are: “And spend of your wealth in the cause of Allah, and make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction; but do good; for Allah loveth those who do good.” (2:195 Quran) And let not those among you who are blessed with graces and wealth swear not to give (any sort of help) to their kinsmen, Al-Masakin (the poor), and those who left their homes for Allah’s Cause. Let them pardon and forgive. Do you not… Read more »
snelson134
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Ah, I see you read the early Suras. Most people are unaware of a critically important principle of Koranic interpretation known as “abrogation.” The principle of abrogation — al-naskh wa al-mansukh (the abrogating and the abrogated) — directs that verses revealed later in Muhammad’s career “abrogate” — i.e., cancel and replace — earlier ones whose instructions they may contradict. Thus, passages revealed later in Muhammad’s career, in Medina, overrule passages revealed earlier, in Mecca. The Koran itself lays out the principle of abrogation: 2:106. Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We {Allah} abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a… Read more »
John C Wright
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Blotogg asks of Mr May: “So, you’ve met all the Muslims, and not found a good one in the bunch?” Imagine this was WWII, one day after Pearl Harbor, with the bodies still unburied, and hearing creatures like Blotogg lecturing us sarcastically on how not all Japs are bad. The moderate Mohammedans have as much effect on history as the moderate Communists in Russia under Stalin, which is to say, none at all. Why even discuss them? Why mention them? No one cares whether some nice but silent Muslim somewhere is hesitant about supporting Jihad. Why the hell are you… Read more »
James May
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Blottog doesn’t understand the difference between a sociopathic criminal who is an individual and a sociopathic ideology under which otherwise decent people live. He is comparing the two things. An individual who says no Christian can be the president of Egypt is different from a law. A law is a reflection of culture. These killings are not individuals but a reflection of culture and ideology. Whether individual Muslims are nice people or not is not the point. The point is what cultural value system they share and laws they make. We once bombed Germans as collective punishment because they supported… Read more »
blottogg
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James, your positions confuse me. On the one hand, you (correctly, in my opinion) slam the SJW’s for lumping everyone together in GamerGate with a “if you’re not with us, you’re with them” mentality, then you turn around and do the *exact* same thing to all of Islam. How do you resolve that cognative dissonance? By telling yourself that video games aren’t an ideology, so it’s wrong, but Islam is an ideology, so the 5 million displaced Syrians are all damned for the actions of the Kouachi brothers? That strikes me as special pleading. What’s the magic ratio of good… Read more »
saintonge235
Guest

Mr. Wright, you’re exactly on target.

Kristophr
Guest

I’ve read the suras and the hadiths, blottogg. The “peaceful” moslem is a myth. Learn the difference between the Medina and the Mecca texts, and the principle of Abrogation.

Some moslems are just not willing to be personally violent. I can live with those. But proper Islamic orthodoxy requires the violence of Sharia be imposed if the Islamic community has the strength to do so.

Islamics are still living in the witchburning times. Try violating sharia in an islamic country, and see how quickly you get stoned or jailed.

snelson134
Guest

I schooled him on the Koran and abrogation yesterday about this time; apparently the cluebat wasn’t big enough.

Larry, can I borrow the tetsubo?

blottogg
Guest
Then these guys down the road from me: http://www.icnm-abq.org/ Are just what, lazy? Biding their time? “If he runs, he’s VC. If he doesn’t run, then he’s disciplined VC”. Are you telling me I should just cut to the chase and fight them before they get around to fighting me? Sharia law is something I oppose, but then again I don’t live in a country ruled by Sharia. It must be nice to know with such certainty what goes on in the thoughts of 1.4B people. I don’t have that confidence, or arrogance. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not defending… Read more »
dgarsys
Guest

Well that’s a new one from our Blott.

I don’t believe I’ve ever seen such a nicely done concern trolling (some of my best friends are conservatives) coupled to a false dichotomy.

Take notes class.

snelson134
Guest
blottogg, there’s a couple more points of mainstream Islamic doctrine you are ignoring. Taqqiya: A Muslim is encouraged to lie about his religion and its’ practices in order to lull the unbeliever into leaving him alone while the Muslim is in a weaker position. Much like the Suras from Mecca are much more innocuous, because they were revealed when Mohammed had no power, than the Medina Suras, when he had an army and was in a position to conquer and rule. Hudna: A Muslim is not bound by any treaty or contract he makes with an infidel. Rather, he should… Read more »
dgarsys
Guest
On a different note. but there’s a phrase that we all know – “Three times is enemy action” that applies to many different types of systems. In general, the principle is that even a very small number of problems is symptomatic of a systemic issue. A computer bug, a design flaw, or simply an engineering or social compromise that cannot be avoided and has bad consequences under edge cases. So yes, paedophile catholic priests was a systemic problem (note, this does not mean the system was designed that way). Ditto the parishes that simply tried to make the problem go… Read more »
James May
Guest
My position is not confusing; Islam is a supremacist ideology. Muslims do not believe in freedom of speech, a Bill of Rights or equal protection. The Koran permits slavery. Their jurists have anti-blasphemy laws and the people accept this. They do not permit interest loans. Islam is an ideology with recognizable rules they obey. It cannot co-exist within the West or even with each other and this is on a religious basis. The Muslim Brotherhood agitated from a strictly religious viewpoint, so did the Hebdo shooters, so does ISIS, so does Al-Qaeda, so does Hizbollah, Iran, Hamas, Erdogan of Turkey,… Read more »
T.
Guest

Jeez… the reading comprehension bar is set low in here. Pff.

James May
Guest

I read quite fine. In principle you said Catholics and Muslims share extremes in their ideology. I recall no Catholics murdering Jack Kirby, Jim Steranko and Barry Smith. Yes I am discounting the Spanish Armada, cuz calendars.

blottogg
Guest

The Catholic church has it’s own list of sins (complicity in the Holocaust, pedophilia, money laundering, graft, corruption, a certain Middle Ages Pope trying to start his own papal dynasty…). If you’re limiting the metric to body count, you’re validating the gun control lobby who does the exact same thing.

Evil is evil. I’d be nice if it concentrated it under one convenient label such as “Islam” but it just isn’t that simple. Unless you behave like it *is* that simple for long enough, at which time the prophesy becomes self-fulfilling.

Sparks
Guest

You clearly know nothing about Pope Pius XII if you think Catholics were complicit during the Holocaust.

Isn’t it strange that after every Islamist terrorist attack there is some guy always running around screaming that Christians have done worse?

Tell them who actually started the crusades and their heads might explode.

Luke
Guest

Worse, tell them about the ghiza, the Janissaries, and how the two related to each other.

Not that they’ll listen. Arguing against all evidence that Pius XII was somehow complicit in the Holocaust pretty much proves that reality isn’t the metric they use.

Dave W.
Guest

>Arguing against all evidence that Pius XII was somehow complicit in the Holocaust pretty much proves that reality isn’t the metric they use.

Really? Have some evidence to that effect? Please share. And no, I’m not Catholic.

James May
Guest

Evil is evil. What an idiot.

Ansel
Guest

ID these tangoes, find out which mosque they were operating from. Close that mosque down by declaring it is a haven for terrorists. The ‘goog’ muslims will be offended, but this gets the message across: don’t support terrorists. Maybe next time around somebody will drop a dime whenever these idiots show up and start flapping their gums.

Ansel
Guest

‘gooD’ not goog – typing while remaining calm is difficult sometimes.

saintonge235
Guest

Close that mosque down by putting a cruise missile into it in the middle of Friday services.

s1al
Guest

Well, this is going to wake France up. Anti-semitism was rampant in that country for far, far less. This? This is going to turn the heads of the citizens of the country that once conquered half of Europe and fight the rest to a standstill.

mawz
Guest

Worth noting that the vast majority of the anti-semitism in France is by the same group who committed the attack. Hollande and his bunch are perfectly happy with this, since they vote Socialist.

The reality is attacks like this simply strengthen the FN and make it more likely that Le Pen will be elected in 2017.

And I’m not sure that’s a bad thing. Which scares me.

s1al
Guest

UKIP won an election. Golden Dawn is a major party. Germany has rapidly-growing anti-Islamic marches. I expect that we see the return of hyper-nationalism in my lifetime, and probably WW3. It’s terrifying to contemplate.

60guilders
Guest

I’m not worried about UKIP. If the BNP ever manages to get someone in office, then I’ll worry.

CombatMissionary
Guest

A buddy of mine who worked extensively with the German army once said to me, “There’s nothing more dangerous than an unemployed German.” I’m hoping we don’t have to find out that we have to amend that statement someday to say, “…except a pissed-off German whose homeland is threatened, and who has lost family and/or friends to a hostile invading force.”

Bruce
Guest

I doubt it’ll wake them up. Sure it’ll make some people mad, but is it going to cause a change? Nope, not in the least.

s1al
Guest

Keep in mind that the number of Muslims in France is massive relative to the United States or most European countries… The French are now seeing the world they’ve invited into their country. This isn’t a 9/11-type of incident, but it is significant in the level of violence and direct correlation to militant Islam.

Maybe you’re right. It will be hard to tell for a while.

John C Wright
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“Well, this is going to wake France up.” With all due respect, no. France is Leftist. Leftists never wake up. Never. They are not asleep. They do not reject reality because they like reality but are innocently groping to find it, and merely have not found it yet. They are not looking for it. The Left reject reality because they hate reality, and hate it with a deep, nay, with an all-consuming passion. Rejecting reality is the core of their doctrine. Leftism is not a mental disease, not a political philosophy, not even a religion. Leftism is the rebellion against… Read more »
CombatMissionary
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I’ve had a few discussions with people about how, much like blue states tend to be very conservative except for the few metropolitan areas that dominate state politics via raw population numbers, France is very likely pretty conservative, but its politics are dominated by Parisians. Perhaps if the terrorists destroy Paris?

saintonge235
Guest

The ideology of leftism: “Whatever is, is wrong.”

Tom Simon
Guest
France is very likely pretty conservative, but its politics are dominated by Parisians. Nice theory, but not supported by the facts. In the first place, Paris has only about one sixth of the population of France. In the second place, Frenchmen don’t divide politically along regional or cultural lines, on the whole, but strictly along class lines: the poor vote Socialist to soak the rich, the rich vote UMP to keep from getting soaked. It is one of the characteristic vices of a pure head-counting political system. And in the third place, the thing that Americans mean by ‘conservatism’ does… Read more »
s1al
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I must agree with the poster who noted that the problem is not the French people generally… it is the Parisians. Having interacted with both types, that has also been my general impression. The friends I have or have had in the past who visited France said the same thing. Frankly, I do not believe France is nearly so left as all that… or, rather, I do not believe that they are so firmly embedded in their leftism as our own American left. The French have not forgotten the World Wars. If the Algerian experiment fails, I expect quite a… Read more »
Matt
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The West is not willing to be brutal enough to stop these sorts of attacks. As a people, we have lost our collective spine. This has been shown repeatedly in our dealings with the Middle East over the past 40 years. One solution is to not only track down the terrorists and kill them, but also decimate any village that has been sheltering them. That’s right, just like the Romans did. Brutal, harsh & vicious, but it works. Worrying about “feelings” or trying to project our mindset on them will not work. As a side note, where are the SJWs… Read more »
RightWingProf
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Pretty soon we’ll hear the “No true scotsman” replies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

jabrwok
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James May
Guest
How about right now: “Charlie Stross retweeted Molly Crabapple @mollycrabapple · 4h 4 hours ago Also fuck anyone asking All Muslims ™ to apologize for the swine who murdered Charlie Hebdo’s cartoonists. Fuck racist collective blame” “Charlie Stross retweeted Frankie Boyle @frankieboyle · 4h 4 hours ago Actually just had some cunt from Belfast telling me Christians don’t get involved in terrorism” “Aliette de Bodard retweeted darrylayo @darrylayo · 2h 2 hours ago Islam didn’t commit murder. Criminals committed murder. Keep your mind in perspective.” “Kate Elliott @KateElliottSFF · 12m 12 minutes ago @jlgarts Yes, a specific group of religious… Read more »
blottogg
Guest

That’s the first I’ve heard of the live-action Ghost in the Shell movie. Cool, though sad that I had to hear about it in this context. I never cease to be amazed at the things SJW’s with too much time on their hands choose to get indignant about. Scarlett should do well in the role, cries of “racism” notwithstanding.

James May
Guest

I’m not surprised; our SJWs are a wrong-way KKK in all but name – just different targets. By the definition of the Southern Poverty Law Center, they are a hate group.

Joel Salomon
Guest

#NotAllMuslims

Dave W.
Guest

What you did there…. I see it!

Michael Z. Williamson
Guest

“Tenet,” Larry, not “Tenant.” We know what you mean, but some lefticle will invalidate your article because they “guy who thinks he’s a writer,” “Can’t even spell.”

I know a lot of Pakistanis. They noticed the attack on the school. They were rightfully horrified and angered.

I say we need another “Everyone draw Mohammed Day.”

Joel Salomon
Guest

I just reread a thread (might have been Sad Puppies I) where Larry said Toni deserves the Best Editor award for making sure none of his errors of this sort make it into print.

’Sides, this way we get to a complete Checklist that much sooner.

James May
Guest

I wonder how horrified and angered they were on 9/11 and during the Mumbai Taj Mahal Hotel attacks.

John Bradley
Guest

Most of these cocksuckers were prattling on about how brave those bastards were to murder so many…. I weep that I didn’t give in to my base urges and put those shits in a mass grave before they could vote for Obama!

Jim McCoy
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I’m waiting. I’m patiently waiting for the first “The French deserved this” post. When it comes (and we all know it’s coming) I am going to LOSE. MY. SHIT. This is what comes from banning “hatespeech.” This is what happens when you tell your enemies that its alright to hate you. This is not just the result of a lack of will to fight back. THIS IS A RESULT OF TELLING THE ENEMY THAT THEY WERE RIGHT FOR KILLING YOUR OWN!! Fuck these terrorists. Fuck their supporters. Fuck their sympathizers. Fuck anyone who refuses to speak out on this. Do… Read more »
eviestormrose
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Reblogged this on The Wandering Witchling and commented:
Yeap.

John Tolkien
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Anyone have a link to these cartoons? I would like to put them on my Facebook page to show these scumbags I am not afraid. The proper response to this attack is to post these images EVERYWHERE, to sell T shirts and bumper stickers with them, to overwhelm these bastards with the very thing they despise.

Matt
Guest

Try here: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/a-tribute-to-charlie-hebdo/

Or this:comment image:large

Or here, from the usually wrong about everything people at Vox:
http://www.vox.com/2015/1/7/7507883/charlie-hebdo-explained-covers

Dave W.
Guest

Thanks, Larry, spot on as usual.

And of course, Gawker’s Useful Idiots (aka readers) are starting out blaming the “gun nuts” for the attack. Morons.

http://gawker.com/gunmen-kill-12-in-shooting-at-paris-satirical-newspaper-1677943812/all

FAL Phil
Guest

DOes anyone over the age of 14 even get on Gawker anymore?

Dave W.
Guest

Nobody with the emotional maturity over a 14 year old, anyway.

Leit
Guest

I’d suggest you’ve got your demographics wrong. There’s a pretty high correlation between the groups ‘young people’ and ‘gamers’ – and Gawker is radioactive to most gamers after their… *cof* measured response to GamerGate.

The people on Gawker now are the ones whose minds have been steadily mulched by years or decades of one-sided views being presented as “balanced”.

colddeadhandsdays
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Reblogged this on Cold Dead Hands Days and commented:
My take. You reap what you sow.. France is reaping for their Islamic love fest.

Brian Niemeier
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RS
Guest

Vox (the magazine, not the blogger) has posted all the covers that the journalists were killed for. I hope many, many people link to this.
http://www.vox.com/2015/1/7/7507883/charlie-hebdo-explained-covers

snelson134
Guest

How is this any different from the SJW’s, other than so far they simply want your job, your professional associations, maybe your kids taken away? They just haven’t developed the gall to actually attack directly; instead, they’ll send the SWAT team to your house on a fake “gun nut with hostages” call.

NR Pax
Guest

In response to the people who wail about “backlash” against Muslims, I would like to point out the obvious.

If this backlash happened to the extent you think it did or could, Islam would be a dead religion with no known practitioners. They exist in the civilized world because we allow it to.

The Phantom
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Backlash in Canada to Cpl. Nathan Cirrilo being killed at the National War Memorial: 100,000 people showed up to his funeral in Hamilton Ontario. Death toll so far, despite Mooselimbs having pissed off Scots Canadians, the most dire bastards on Earth… zero. Backlash in France so far, tens of thousands showed up in Paris tonight in a spontaneous Je Suis Charlie/Fuck You Islamists! vigil. Death toll so far, zero. Oh, and fuck the SJWs for their knee-jerk defense of a group that doesn’t need any defense, because they live in a CIVILIZED COUNTRY where we don’t round up random strangers… Read more »
James May
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Nothing shows you better how Social Justice Warriors lie than Charlie Hebdo and the cases of Mike Brown and Eric Garner. Two anomalous black deaths at the hands of white cops were treated as cold-blooded murders. Worse than that, not only all white American cops but all white Americans were treated exactly as if they were a supremacist ideology in which all whites were recruited into against their will by SJWs. Did we really need that after hearing their endless fucking bleats about white privilege? Now we come to Charlie Hebdo. Cold blooded murders that have been part of a… Read more »
Jody T. Long
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I was in Iraq, as a contractor, in 2004 when Beslan occurred, The group I was working with all agreed that school attacks were going to be a trend. I am sorry to see that it is happening.
Hope I can meet up with you someday, traveling out west a lot this year to teach. Be safe.

Still would like to make contact about guest speaker for the National Police Shooting Championship.
J. Long

Travis
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I’ve done a lot of research in Muslims countries. I know a lot of Muslims. Good people, most of them, mostly moderate and they want what everyone else wants, safety, prosperity and freedom to live their religion as they see fit. But they are hunkered down in survivor mode, much like everyone was in the days of the Soviet bloc, because they live in countries that are run by monsters, or rather they are in countries that are run by dictators that play the monsters off each other to keep them and the people in line. They hate it, but… Read more »
Kristophr
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There were good Germans in Dresden as well. And good Japanese in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

People get the government they are willing to tolerate.

Blaine
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Sometime “people” as in singular individuals can’t choose their goverments, when they see everyone around them is really happy to have such goverment. And even if what they see are smiling masks of terrified friends who live in fear of even a rumour going into wrong ears even if they’d be willing to speak up, what can they achieve? Let me illustrate with example from my own country (or let have two of them, shall we) Munich in 1938 and Prague in 1968. First is absolute despair and loneliness in the face of the strongest nation in the Europe at… Read more »
Kristophr
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Blaine:

If you try hard enough, you can immigrate, as your family proved.

It’s called voting with your feet. It is 100% effective vs. bad governments, if exercised early enough.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

Blaine,

Being a scalawag was no bed of roses in certain places.

In fairness to your point, a lot of the time they killed individuals for being uppity, rather than entire families. Of course, there were also things like the Tulsa and Saint Louis riots.

Blaine
Guest
We did not immigrate, we are Czechs. They stayed here, because it was too dangerous for rest of the family (we have quite a big family, our holiday season is spent travelling between all the branches, so we can meet and spent time with each other), so if for example my grandad immigrate it was possible his brother or someone else would have to pay for it. And during normalisation – as it’s called, because everyone was supposed to be the same, people were afraid. It wasn’t because of showtrials and denounciations, as it was during the fifties, it was… Read more »
Julie Pascal
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Up to a point it’s true that people get the government they are willing to tolerate… unless they’re living at the level of survival concerns, which people are in a lot of these places. I mean, otherwise we’d have to posit that a dictatorship can not exist, when obviously it can.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool
People will tolerate dictatorships at times. This is not a function of poverty, it is of values. One cannot control the values of other people, one cannot force them them love freedom more than life, more than the welfare of their families, more than whatever cause compels them to build governments to a design other than minimizing the harm they do when they become evil. One might be able to slaughter the population under a tyrant whenever said tyrant becomes too annoying to other powers. This might inform the decision of future people when deciding whether to go against the… Read more »
blottogg
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Honestly, I don’t care what religious views the gunmen have. It strikes me as “argument by distraction” much like damning all Mormons for the past practice of polygamy, or assaults against gays as “hate crimes”. Shooting people dead in cold blood is murder, no need to consult religious beliefs (as are polygamy and assault & battery). Having said that, they killed these people because they didn’t follow the religious practices of the gunmen. Countering this generalization with the counter-generalization that “all Muslims are evil” is just as prejudicial, and just as ignorant. When I say most Muslims are not violent… Read more »
Kristophr
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Terrorists are funded by Zakat, the religious contribution a Moslem is required to make each year.

When you are war, you bomb the source of logistics and recruits.

blottogg
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“If he runs, he’s VC. If he doesn’t run, then he’s disciplined VC.” Nice circular “logic”, that. So when they militantly generalize, they’re criminals, but when you do it, you’re just stating the “truth”? I’m sure there were those in the Soviet Union and Nazi party who thought the same way. Again, I’m not trying to give these criminals a pass. I want them hunted down with extreme prejudice. What I am pointing out is that generalizing and demonizing every member of a religion these assholes have commandeered is every bit as evil as they themselves are. Moderate Muslims have… Read more »
James May
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Blottog, the entirety of ISIS, the entirety of the Muslim Brotherhood, the entirety of Saudi Wahhabism and its export Salafi Taliban ideology declares the world’s Muslims “un-Islamic.” Which ones are the real Muslims? If the president of Egypt is calling on the global jurists for Sunni orthodoxy at Al-Ahzar in Cairo to try and figure out the difference between takfirists who declare other Muslims apostates, isn’t that an indication there’s just a slight monkey in the wrench? Was El-Sisi condemning the West or Islam. When you have a guy like that giving speeches is he demonizing Islam?

Kristophr
Guest

So when do these moderate moslems prevent these atrocities? Why don’t they? Perhaps for the same reason moderate Germans did not prevent the Holocaust?

If your home country continues to allow acts of war against another, maybe you should get the hell out, if you cannot successfully revolt?

If nothing else, you shouldn’t be at all surprised when the city you live in gets carpet bombed, if the government you live under tolerates or sponsers acts of war.

James May
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A strange statement since without the religion they wouldn’t have been gunmen in the first place. Please list all contemporary religions under whose flag this is happening globally and then get a dictionary and look up the word “which.” The Brownshirts of Nazi Germany had 400,000 members even by 1932 and the Nazi Party had 8 million members at its peak. How many of them delivered Jews to camps? How many people were at the Wansee Conference? I’m not impressed by how many people in an ideology have no blood on their hands. I’m impressed by them not being members… Read more »
Kristophr
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We didn’t attack first and the Jews didn’t attack first. Islamics started it by trying to slaughter Zionists who purchased their settlement lands from willing sellers in 1948.

As for the crusades, there were far more attacks on Christians than Moslems by a factor of ten. Islam was raiding Europe and US ships for slaves until they finally got stepped on very late in the game.

Take your culteral equivalence crap and shove it.

Islam started this fight, and we’ll finish it.

Kristophr
Guest

Sorry, posted in the wrong place. Please duck the “friendly” fire.

James May
Guest

Too late… wounded… fading fast. Tell mother I… ulp!

blottogg
Guest
By your reasoning, all Germans should be forever damned because of the Nazi atrocities. Or Catholics for the Crusades, or Russians for the Gulags, or Chinese for the Cultural Revolution. Do you see the hypocrisy of demanding that not all gun owners be held responsible for gun crime, but demanding that all Muslims be held accountable for jihadist zealots? Are you so lazy that you’d rather pick a fight with the majority of Muslims not advocating jihad, instead of picking out the sociopaths from the lineup? Good luck with that, let me know how bitch-slapping every woman in a niqab… Read more »
Sparks
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Islamists started the crusades. But keep proving your prejudice is stronger than ours.

James May
Guest
No, Germans need only have been damned and bombed until they abandoned their Hitlerian ideology. That is what we did and what happened. We still actively oppose whatever remains of Soviet gulags. We do not oppose Russians. There is no need to oppose the Crusades since the cultural current which produced them no longer exists. The topic at hand is whether Islam currently contains institutionally sanctioned currents that produce sociopathy, or in other words, defaults to an ideologically promoted sociopathy compared to the rest of the world. I am picking no fight with anyone. I am not going to Tunisia… Read more »
Blaine
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Sparks: no, islamists did not start crusades. Crusades were started by overpopulation of Europe, greed of religious leaders and hunger for power of kings of the time. They picked the best enemy they could – something far away and something that whole christiandom can fight and not diminish their own resources. It was quite brilliant if you look at it from the Rome. You can send all those useless third and fourth and fifth and so on noble sons to war far away from lands that are populated by people who create money for you. Far away from peasant women… Read more »
dgarsys
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Though it says that it’s “controversial” if the Crusades were offensive or defensive, even Wikipedia admits: The First Crusade was part of the Christian response to the Muslim conquests, and was followed by the Second to the Ninth Crusades, but the gains made lasted for less than 200 years. It was also the first major step towards reopening international trade in the West since the fall of the Western Roman Empire. Seriously – look at the dates. Italy, France, and Spain were both invaded long before the first Crusade. Charles “The Hammer” Martel was famous for the battle of Tours.… Read more »
Nathan
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Blaine,

Please tell that to the Spanish, to Charles Martel and the French, and to the Byzantines, all who had fought Muslim expansion into Christendom during the years and centuries prior to the Crusades.

60guilders
Guest

For that matter, Blaine, tell it to the Rajputs who broke the first Muslim invasion of India.

Blaine
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60guilders: Sorry, can’t speak about that, don’t know really much about Indian history to be honest. But thanks for some the name, I will look it up. Our local library is quite well stocked in history department, I hope I will be able to find something more about that. Nathan: To be honest I don’t think that main reason to wage war against Saracens was anything else than gaining power for the Vatican and Papacy as an institution. I agree with you in that Crusades were against non-catholics and were used to spread catholic christianity. Or to save catholic christians… Read more »
bjlinden
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@James May

When South Park is self-censoring and media outlets pixilating images out of fear for their very lives it is time to have “the talk.”

Did South Park self-censor? My understanding was that Comedy Central censored them. I hope I’m not mistaken, because I still have them mentally categorized as among the good guys, and I’d hate to have to change that…

60guilders
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Quick note, by the by, on the Crusades: 1st Crusade happens at the turn of the 11th century, in response to call for help from Europe by Alexius Comnenus, due to encroachment on Byzantine lands by Seljuq Turks. Further casus belli provided by Seljuq harassment of Christians. Succeeds wildly. 2nd Crusade fizzled out, and will not be further spoken of. 3rd Crusade happens around 1190 in response to Saladin’s victory at the Horns of Hattin. Would have come off, except for the fact that Phillip of France and Richard Lion-heart of England had egos the size of their destriers, and… Read more »
DaveP.
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I’ll stand up for the rights of “the peaceful majority” of Muslims when that majority brings war to the minority who commit violence in the name of Islam.

James May
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Right. These are countries that have laws against women and Christians being president, laws against insulting Islam, and put gays in jail for existing and I’m supposed to separate them from that? How about they separate themselves from that? Those gunman aren’t un-Islamic. The gunmen say moderate Muslims are un-Islamic. Sayyid Qutb and the Muslim Brotherhood say that, ISIS says that, Wahhabis say that. If you want to be un-Islamic them un-Islamicize and step away. This isn’t some he-said, she-said of some neutral world citizenry. After the first several thousand terrorist attacks it might be time to say there is… Read more »
blottogg
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So when a criminal uses a gun, you’d also demand that all “moderate” gun owners actively oppose them?

All Catholics are complicit in child sexual abuse because they didn’t hunt down all the pedophiles within the clergy?

I’m getting the distinct impression that Generalization is like Rebellion; always justified in the first person (“Our Generalization”) but never in the third person (“Their Generalization”).

Good luck, guys.

dgarsys
Guest
Some nice handwavium and obfuscation you’ve got going on there. Actually. YES. We expect gun owners to be law abiding, and to condemn criminal activity. Not necessarily actively hunt them down, but still to condemn, and when faced with criminals, do something about it. We expect catholics to condemn pedophiles, and if faced with one, to oppose them and see justice done. And while “not all muslims are like that” there is certainly something in the combination of Muslim culture and the culture’s its overlaid that results in extreme violence when offended, from the religion of Submission (no, not peace).… Read more »
blottogg
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Some nice handwavium of your own. Where was your call to carpet bomb the Vatican when the pedophilia scandal started breaking? Are you offering gang-bangers up to the cops when they commit drive-bys? Or is guilt-by-association also only applicable in the third person? Show me the Venn diagram where the circle of Islam is completely within the circle of sociopaths. That Catholics don’t declare jihad doesn’t mean that Muslims act oppositely as a block. There seems to be consensus in this forum that all Muslims are damned by the actions of a few sociopaths who claim to be acting in… Read more »
snelson134
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The difference is that the West reacts by putting the bad individuals in jail or killing them without the rest of the world holding a gun to our head. Islam and Muslims have no such track record. And you, sir, are simply a liar to ay otherwise.

blottogg
Guest
The French Gendarmes are giving these guys a pass? The Islamic State should be bringing them to justice? IS is a group of thugs who have cherry-picked the parts of the Quran, Hadith and tribal traditions that support their violent xenophobic misogynistic beliefs, and run with it. They are not the Muslim equivalent of the Vatican, nor have I gotten *any* indication that the majority of the Muslim world abides by or condones their violence. Muslim Kurds, Sunni militias and Shiite Iranians are all fighting these assholes. These perps will be caught and brought to justice, as they should (or… Read more »
Sparks
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“All Catholics are complicit in child sexual abuse because they didn’t hunt down all the pedophiles within the clergy?”

More moral equivalence idiocy. Might want to actually look this up.

Here’s a clue: they did. Gasp shock that someone who would make this argument doesn’t know this.

blottogg
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Some of them did. Others just shuffled them from parish to parish, and covered their asses when the investigation finally got around to them. The point isn’t one of moral equivalence. The point is any group has its bad actors. Others here have pointed out that Islamic terrorism is practically unknown in Central and South America, leaving the reader to assume that those places are somehow peaceful utopias due solely to the absence of the evil wicked violent Muslims. Of course that’s not the case…Brazil and Venezuela are horrifically violent places, Guatemala and Honduras are vying for the world’s highest… Read more »
dgarsys
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Blott – your arguments are dishonest sophistry, conflating the unlike, and full of bullshit.

There are qualitative differences, quantitative differences, statistical differences, and differences in maxima that you ignore and conflate. You slip and slide across these boundaries with emotional language, picking extreme and emotionally laden language (“Carpet bombing the vatican”??)

You – as demonstrated by your repeated choices – have either no ability, or no desire, to debate honestly.

Bye.

blottogg
Guest

Ad hominem followed by departure. That certainly put me in my place. If you’ve actually got “qualitative differences, quantitative differences, statistical differences, and differences in maxima” by all means bring them, otherwise good riddance.

dgarsys
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OK class – please observe. Blott said – Ad hominem followed by departure. That certainly put me in my place. If you’ve actually got “qualitative differences, quantitative differences, statistical differences, and differences in maxima” by all means bring them, otherwise good riddance First – we have someone here who has heard of these things called logical fallacies. The problem is, he doesn’t know how to apply the terms even as he’s a sterling example of obfuscation, scope shift, and other sophistries. So yes, I called him names. Specifically, a bullshitter and a sophist. i.e. – a type of liar. But,… Read more »
James May
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Blottog we are talking about the difference between crime and ideology that manufactures crime. We acknowledge this difference in hate crime laws. We acknowledged crimes of ideology at Nuremberg. Nazism and its expressions are outlawed in various ways and various places in Europe. Confusing Muslims and Sikhs is not one of them. And our SJW opponents have offered much slimmer standards for that via “rape culture” and “white privilege.” Radical feminists have successfully lobbied laws in colleges that target men for being men. Gun owners are not an ideology. Child abuse is not Catholic canon. Men and heterosexuality are not… Read more »
DaveP.
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“So when a criminal uses a gun, you’d also demand that all “moderate” gun owners actively oppose them?”

…dude, you actually came out in public and SAID that. That’s so dumb the whole Internet just dropped an IQ point. Congrats, little relativist; you’re officially too dense to bother with.

blottogg
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You’re right there, I misspoke. What I should have said is that all Muslims shouldn’t be held responsible for the crimes others do using Islam for their own purposes any more than law-abiding gun owners should be held responsible for crimes committed by criminals with guns. Law-abiding gun owners and law-abiding Muslims should oppose those committing crimes with guns and a criminal interpretation of Islam. The gun-control crowd adheres to the belief that guns=evil, which I find as false as the argument currently making headway here that Islam=evil. Guns aren’t an ideology, and Islam isn’t hardware, but the techniques of… Read more »
Wes S.
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@blottog: Funny you should mention Breivik. Vox Day weighed in on the Charlie Hedbo massacre today with this astute observation:

“And that is the terrible point to which multiculturalism and diversity and tolerance has brought the West: the choice between Breivik and Hebdo. Many have embraced the hashtag #JeSuisCharlie, but as Iowahawk wisely noted, never bring a candlelight vigil to a gunfight.”

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/01/this-is-what-diversity-looks-like.html

Vox frequently pisses me off…but when he’s right, he’s right. In this case, I really wish to God he weren’t, because there are going to be some very grim days ahead for Western Civilization.

James May
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Blottog, I’ve spent 2 years of my life in Brazil, Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico. Once again you are wrong. You are confusing criminals with an entrenched and institutionalized ideology that rules the cultures of those nations. Shanty towns do not rule Brazil like a Koran nor is there a shanty mentality that is taught in schools and on TV by preachers. The gang mentality of Guatemala is not taught by gov’t nor is it entrenched in Mayan lore. It is in fact derived from black American gang culture, as is that of Mexico. They are Mafias, and children are not… Read more »
saintonge235
Guest

Well said, sir, well said.

James May
Guest

Blottog doesn’t understand the difference between a failure to establish rule of law in a nation of laws and having that failure baked into one’s laws in the first place. Comparing Brazil to S. Arabia is idiotic. You can have mosques in Brazil. You can’t have churches in S. Arabia. People who don’t like Muslims in Brazil are individuals with no institutional backing. People who don’t like Christians in S. Arabia have the backing of the state. There is no comparison between those failures since one is self-limiting and the other Jim Crow.

blottogg
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James, is your problem with non-state jihadis or with nations that follow Sharia? They both suck, but they’re different threats, and require different countermeasures. Sharia sucks, without doubt. It’s brutal, oppressive, restrictive and lends itself very nicely to totalitarianism. We tolerate it for the political reasons that 1) Saudi has a big chunk of the world’s oil, that runs the world’s economy, and 2) they’re also one of our few nominal “allies” in a part of the world that we can’t usually make that claim. They’re brutal, repressive xenophobic sociopaths, but they’re *our* brutal, repressive xenophobic sociopaths. I don’t like… Read more »
John
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Reblogged this on Writing and other stuff.

Earl Rogers
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Funny how smug lefty loudmouths like #NewsFail are always going on and on about Evil Israel and how Those Evil Jews are Murdering Palestinian Babies left and right, supposedly.

But the moment the radical Islam fanatics commit an atrocity, they’re suddenly silent as a tomb.

Because deep down, they -know- Israel isn’t a bunch of craven, child-murdering monsters.

These guys? Not so much.

Nobody should be persecuted for their religion.

Likewise, nobody should political correctness to excuse a religion of murder.

Alan S.
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Use the words “Jihadist” and “Jihadism”. 1) Accurate. 2) Self-identifying. (Proudly in most cases.) 3) Short-circuits leftists. As always, the second something “unexpected” happens, there’s the handwringing over accusing “Islam” or “muslims”, as if we (=everyone not on the far-Left) can’t be trusted to accurately use or mean the adjectives ‘militant’ or ‘radical’. And then the entire discussion sits here in the hand-wringing stage. The press is down to ‘gunmen’ currently. Just go around it. Not because “Jihadist” is more politically correct, but because a user thereof will always be able to say “I didn’t bring up religion you ()((*&,… Read more »
blottogg
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It is an important (and accurate) distinction that avoids a lot of collateral damage, while giving the perps no cover.

bjlinden
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I’d just like to point out that I approve of this message. Described this way, “Jihadist” seems like a very useful term. It accurately identifies the cause of the problem as a widespread ideology, but doesn’t unfairly accuse those Muslims who interpret the Koran differently of the crimes of that different (but related) ideology. The one I’ve been using most often lately is “Islamist,” which is better than nothing, but isn’t the most useful term ever, because 1) it’s easy for people who don’t know what I mean by it to read and think I mean Islam, and 2) because… Read more »
Alan S.
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The one semi-valid complaint against “Jihadist” is that you’re granting the enemy the term they -want-. It’s an accolade in their interpretation.

I frankly don’t care about that aspect. Moving off of the rock we’ve linguistically been aground upon is worth that. Plus, the key blindness of political correctness can then be applied: Anything can be intended perjoratively, so all you need is -a- word that’s nominally acceptable -now-.

But making this one shift allows us to act as if “Jihadism” and “Islam” are two completely distinct belief systems. And actively persecute one of them while mocking opposition to the persecution.

Ish
Guest

لن استسلم

Eamon J. Cole
Guest

Nor I.

tariencole
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Reblogged this on The Worlds of Tarien Cole and commented:
Maybe it’s because I don’t have as much to lose as some. But I’d like to think it’s because as I see it: If a man doesn’t stand and defend truth, he isn’t really a man. And anyone who gives the moral equivalency crap of ‘all fundamentalists are the same’ is a liar. They all may make you uncomfortable. But there’s no Crazy Lutheran pointing guns at you for thinking that.

ZeeWulf
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Having been “Over There…” These idiot leftist apologists have no frigging clue as to what they’re dealing with. Yeah, great, totally the majority of the people over there are decent. I get that. I saw it with my own two eyes. But I also saw things that should be getting play here that the leftards would be terrified to stand against: I saw a pregnant woman, in hundred-degree heat, head to toe in black, little girl in tow behind her plowing a field, while her husband and son sat under the only shade for a good mile, watching her. I… Read more »
The Phantom
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“I had BOYS offer me MONEY for one of my fellow Soldiers…and when I told them to get lost, they tried to TAKE her.”

I hope she didn’t hurt the little dears too bad. Hearts and minds, y’know…

Luke
Guest

Screw that. I hope she shot their nuts off.

ZeeWulf
Guest

Naw..she gave him the taste of buttstock followed by a very large Fijian infantryman teaching him to fly.

robfornow
Guest

I saw a video made by a US Army company that was part of the occupation of Iraq after 03, on the military channel. The troops had no use for Iraq and had no problem showing why they had no respect for Islam or Iraq. After you saw they way they treated their females, and the rest of their stuff, a viewer had no respect either

Harold Best
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Larry, the reason we do not go to war to stop this evil, an evil that is an existential threat to our very civilization is that we have been infiltrated to the very top. The Saudi royals are close friends with everyone In high office. Remember that this radical Islam is fomented in Mecca. The Director of CIA is a Muslim for Christ’s sake. And our President? The mass media? The AP announced the news and in the same article whined that “Islam is a religion of Peace” and how ” This was going to be difficult for Muslims in… Read more »
Ron Merrell
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I would recommend a one-for-one trade. For every person these scum kill, we kill one militant Imam who has supported them. How many do you think we will have to exterminate before their preachers get the message? I’m hoping a lot…

blottogg
Guest

You do realize the hypocrisy of defending our freedom of speech by attacking their freedom of speech, right?

Freedom of speech does have limits. No yelling “Fire” in a crowded movie house, and no inciting violence, so there’s room for locking these hate-mongering firebrands up. But realize that that particular blade cuts both ways…

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

Freedom of speech only applies internally. As a constitutional protection it has no bearing on those outside of the scope of the constitution.

For example, when we defeated the Germans and established our rules over them, we restricted their speech by making membership in the NSDAP illegal.

blottogg
Guest

So, because it was a French magazine, we shouldn’t be concerned or involved? You can’t have it both ways. Either it’s a right or it’s not. Special pleaders need not apply.

thewriterinblack
Guest

Freedom of speech has to be a two way street. They aren’t willing to grant it to me. I’m not the one who went over and started slaughtering people for mocking things I hold dear. When you take the path of violence to suppress ideas and thoughts you do not like you give up your own right just like if you attack a person and threaten their right to life you give up your own and are subject to lethal self defense.

blottogg
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I agree if you’re willing to distinguish between jihadist criminals and the general law-abiding Muslim population. Otherwise, your purpose is served by killing occupants in the nearest Mosque (or carpet bombing the Middle East, deporting all Muslims, or several other extremist “solutions” suggested here). I’d like to oppose the jihadists while keeping the collateral damage to a minimum. Of course, you can do that by declaring all of them jihadists. Then none of the damage is collateral, by definition.

thewriterinblack
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When we had abortion clinic bombings in the name of one person’s take on “Christianity” other Christians* investigated the crime. Other Christians captured the criminals. Other Christians prosecuted them. Other Christians declared their guilt “beyond a reasonable doubt”. And other Christians carried out the sentence of the court. When nominally Christian Timothy McVeigh committed his act of terrorism other Christians* investigated the crime. Other Christians captured McVeigh. Other Christians prosecuted him. Other Christians declared his guilt “beyond a reasonable doubt”. And other Christians carried out the sentence of the court. (Ditto Terry Nichols.) And so on. Mouthing a few platitudes… Read more »
Joel Salomon
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To be fair, one of the police officers killed protecting the Charlie Hebdo offices was himself a Muslim.

blottogg
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Given that the majority of the U.S. population is Christian, painting the Christians as policing their own is at best disingenuous. You’re presenting statistical likelihood as some sort of deliberate moral decision. There wasn’t a grassroots groundswell of support from the Christian community to bring McVeigh (or Breivik), but rather action by the law enforcement agencies already in place. It wasn’t that the Christian community was any less brave than any other community. It’s just human behavior not to stick your neck out, whatever your religion. Challenging armed sociopaths in your community is not evolutionarily sound, otherwise there would be… Read more »
snelson134
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I schooled you on Islam last night. And you have no clue of how anyone responded. What’s certain is that your attempts at false equivalence are ridiculous.

thewriterinblack
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You’re presenting statistical likelihood as some sort of deliberate moral decision. And that “whooshing” sound is the point sailing right over your head. Yes, most people in the US are Christian. And. they. police. their. own. They don’t make excuses and say “well, it’s understandable that he would be upset about the murder of babies.” They don’t engage in “code of silence” when people try to ferret out the bad guys. They fully and actively cooperate and assist in the capture and punishment of the “terrorist” extremists in who call themselves Christian. What do we get from “moderate Muslims”? We… Read more »
blottogg
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Someone seems to have missed my point, too. Okay, again you need to explain the rules to me. Pointing out Christianity’s faults is “moral equivalence” and demonized, but it’s okay to present police forces in America as being specifically “Christian” when they do what they’re supposed to, like they’re doing it for religious and not secular reasons? WTF? You can’t have the good while hand-waving the parts that don’t agree with your beliefs. Well, you can, but it’s dishonest. You’re telling me that words from moderate Muslims aren’t going to satisfy you, and that in America, Christians rise up en… Read more »
thewriterinblack
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Pointing out Christianity’s faults is “moral equivalence” and demonized, but it’s okay to present police forces in America as being specifically “Christian” when they do what they’re supposed to, like they’re doing it for religious and not secular reasons? It’s attempted moral equivalence when you present it as a response to actions like the murders at Charlie Hedbo. Want to have a satirical cartoon contest? You get Islam. I get any other religion on the face of the Earth. Want to bet how far we each can go before someone reacts with actual violence? A friend of mine posted a… Read more »
Luke
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A declaration of war is speech.
It also has consequences.

Speech being free does not mean speech free of consequences.
These Islamofascists proclaim their “holy” mission to subjugate the world.
Taking them at their word is not an issue of free speech.
It is instead, locating, closing with, and destroying the enemy.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

Sir,

You suggested that killing high ranking clerics who endorse terrorism, in reprisal for acts of terrorism, is a freedom of speech issue. This would only be the case if said clerics were inside the borders of, and subjects of, the power killing them.

Any power has ample choice of reprisal targets outside of their borders, if they are able to accomplish the killings.

The French have in the past asked that we not act on their behalf in this matter.

James May
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You consider Hizbollah your moral guide? Haven’t you been listening? Of course Hizbollah condemns them; they’re Shi’ites. They’re declaring them heretics, not murderers based on Western principles. Hizbollah will go murder someone tomorrow based on principles I can’t figure out.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

I fear that the response to this atrocity will be even more cowardice.

Wes S.
Guest

Frankly, I’m sick and tired of the SJWs’ insistence that we gather all the world’s vipers to our collective bosom, while at the very same time demanding that we not punish the entire nest for the bites of a few.

If Islam truly is a “religion of peace,” then it’s up to Muslims to prove it. Because that’s no longer something the rest of us can take on faith….and in truth, it hasn’t been that way since 9/11.

Kirk
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Wes, you need to bear in mind that the “religion of peace” BS is just that–Deliberate BS, promulgated by apologists and fellow travelers. What that term in the original Arabic would better translate into English as would be more along the lines of “submission” or “slavery”.

Good luck finding anyone honest enough to tell you that, however.

Wes S.
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@Kirk: I’m quite well aware of that, actually. My rant’ was actually a response to those same fellow-travelers, who seem to themselves see radical Islam as “fellow travelers” in their grand crusade to destroy Western Civilization and replace it with Utopia. Of course, the Left never seems to consider how they’re going to deal with Islam in turn, once Western Civ has been laid low. They sort of gloss over that part. Either they seem to think that radical Islamics will magically go all kumbaya once Utopia has been achieved; or they’re thinking that they’ll ship the Islamics to the… Read more »
John C Wright
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“Because that’s no longer something the rest of us can take on faith….and in truth, it hasn’t been that way since 911 AD, when the Fatamid dynasty was founded in North Africa; the Hamdanid took over Egyptian cities; and the fall of Fall of Taormina crowned the Muslim conquest of Sicily.”

Unless you mean the year 911, the bloodstained history of Islam as a religion of war is far older than you mention. It has been a heretical and satanic mockery of Christianity from the first, a religion of war, a religion of submission and slavery, since its founding.

60guilders
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People blather about the moral equivalence of Christianity and Islam regarding persecution of unbelievers and heretics.
My response is “As a military history freak, I can track the spread of Islam for the first hundred years of its history. Following the spread of Christianity for its first hundred years requires me to move out of that field.”

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool
Maybe so. But that is outside of the scope of the oral history some of us grew up on. For US populations, there being few Muslims living here or in neighboring countries, 2001 was the first really conclusive evidence that the problems apparently caused by Islam were separable from the Soviet problem. Prior to that, it was not obvious to a layman that Islamic terrorism was not simply a small part of the terrorism that the Soviets were directing and funding. The Democrats have killed more Americans and committed more acts of terror in the US than the Muslims. The… Read more »
Blaine
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BobtheRegistredFool:
… Am I mistaken to think that Taliban was basically funded and armed by USA to fight against CCCP in Afghanistan? I thought, that’s how it went.
I know it can be said that any group operating against Izrael could have been funded b Soviets, but why would they arm resistance to their own rule?

saintonge235
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Blaine:
No, the U.S. did NOT found and fund al-Qaeda. The U.S. sent assistance to various anti-Soviet groups in Afghanistan, directly. Osama bin Laden founded al-Qaeda.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool
In the context of what has a emotional impact on Americans, there are essentially two categories. International terrorism, and domestic terrorism sourced in America. (The latter is essentially the Democratic Party. Yes, the Soviets may have been funding them for part of it, but not during the period which had the most psychological impact on the nation.) Acts of international terrorism are more complicated than domestic terrorism. They require both an organization to carry them out, and a jurisdiction, not the target jurisdiction, which will turn a blind eye to all the intensive organizational activities. The soviets funded some of… Read more »
Rivrdog
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I had been on hiatus with my Rivrdog blog. No more. Today, I fired it back up and have set forth a plan to end muslim hegemony: legally remove their status as a RELIGION. They are a theocratic cult, not a religion. The USA must take the lead on denying them the protected status of religious freedom.

Support this idea wherever you find it.

60guilders
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Nyet. The SJWs and their leaders think me and mine as bad as Islam, perhaps worse (because feels). They control the media organs that most voters get their info from, and have their hooks throughout the government.
I will not give them anything in this regard.

thewriterinblack
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Writing my own blog post now. There will be foul language.

thewriterinblack
Guest

And my post on the topic:

http://thewriterinblack.blogspot.com/2015/01/charlie-hebdo.html

(Hope you don’t mind, Larry.)

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Seen on Twitter:

“LeContredicteur
‏@AceofSpadesHQ The American media, @AP, @CNN, @ABCNews, and @NBCNews, announce they will honor the dead by obeying the demands of their murderers”

and:

“David Burge
‏@iowahawkblog Media: we’re not cowards, we’re just totally super respectful of the feelings of the beheading community.”

ronm0817
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Very good analysis of the reality of the situation and how people in general have been socialized to be politically correct even when the actors of atrocity are truly evil and their larger peer group tacitly agrees with their acts with overwhelming silence. Simply things must get very much worse before the majority of people realize and act upon the fact our civilization is at risk.

Sam in Oregon
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http://elmtreeforge.blogspot.com/2015/01/lets-have-little-more-offense-while.html

I have forwarded these cartoons to everyone I know. I challenge every poster here to do the same!

pavepusher
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I am not afraid. I have words and I will speak. I am not afraid. I have weapons and I will defend myself and others. I am not afraid. I will use my words as weapons, and my weapons when the words will not work. I am not afraid. I will not let criminals, monsters or governments take my words or my weapons. I am not afraid. Some of them will try. At least a few will die in the attempt. Because I am not afraid. If they succeed, my words and my weapons will pass to another… and they… Read more »
pavepusher
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Stupid French. Get it right you dunderheads.

‪#‎JesuisCharlieavecunpistolet

James May
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According to Social Justice Warriors, the president of Egypt is a profiling Islamophobe. According to SJWs, you must leave gamergate now because of threats or be lumped in with those making the threats. And gamergate isn’t even an ideology. As usual, SJWs have declared themselves to be more anti-Islamic than anyone. They’re just too unprincipled and stupid to follow their own reasoning. But what need does a supremacism by proxy have for reason? The target never changes, no matter actual events.

saintonge235
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Travis wrote:
“Every time these post-colonialists in our press and academia come out and make excuses for these Islamicist monsters, they think they are helping the cause of Islam, when what they are doing is stabbing the moderates in the back.”

They are helping the cause of Islam. Islam seeks to conquer the world, and they help it do so. They are our enemies, and far more of a threat than the jihadi scum.

saintonge235
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thewriterinblack wrote:
“For that matter, can you point to anyone making the argument back in the day that bombing Dresden, firebombing Tokyo (of the paper walls–goes up like a Roman candle), or nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki would “simply create more radicals”? If moderates are really turned to radicals that way in significant numbers we should have been awash in Nazi and Japanese terrorism after World War II. (Going to claim that the ideological Nazis and the Japanese militarists were less dedicated to the point of fanaticism than the Islamic “radicals”? Go ahead, I can use the laugh.)”

Good post, sir.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool
Well, weren’t there the Wherwolf diehards? Okay, a lot of them were sorted out by giving them back to their parents. I think they don’t count because they were the residue of the original fanatics that had been collected, and because there weren’t that many of them. Hiroshima and Nagasaki worked. We knew before then that they were hoping for a conditional peace, that would let them come back. We would have ended up fighting them again, perhaps in the sixties or seventies. Boom, surrender, and we could go in and make it harder for them to start another fight… Read more »
saintonge235
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Correct, Bob. Lots of people say the treaty of Versailles caused WWII in Europe, and they were right. That treaty was far too lenient.

In WWII we made the enemy surrender unconditionally, and hanged out their leadership. We occupied their countries and made them change their culture. It looks like that’s what we’ll have to do with Islam.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool
I think it was more the USSR. The USSR could not help but behave in a way that let the Germans know they were next on the chopping block, and it would not be nice. (There were Germans living in the Ukraine. Being aliens they would have likely been treated worse.) Note the Bavarians, who for a short time were ruled by a SSR, have been the most resistant to the left. This could have well had an influence in whether the Germans were desperate enough to follow Hitler. As for the Pacific Front, the Soviets didn’t up a gun… Read more »
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IronOx
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Hey, no argument “Religion of Peace” is a translational smokescreen, and IIRC all those quotes of the kinder gentler Koran in the beginning of the discussion mostly recommended that behavior within the confines of fellow believers (I’ll have to pull out my copy to be sure). But as was pointed out earlier, there are approx. 1.4 billion currently practicing Islam. Works out to about 19% of the world population. I’ve seen different numbers, but they are all in the 1/5 to 1/4 range. Carpet bombing the Middle East, no matter how emotionally satisfying, won’t solve the problem. I don’t have… Read more »
Scott
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Yes it would. The rest of the religion of slavery would bow down in fear and leave decent people alone.

Mike
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It’s offensive to not publish these cartoons for fear of offending Muslims. It’s acting as though normal reasonable muslims are so offended they’d blow someone up over it. It treats the offense taken by these extremist assholes as a reasonable response by otherwise respectable people.

Terrorist assholes are terrorist assholes. These ones are Muslim. I’m not going to pretend that they represent all Muslims, but I’m not going to pretend that they aren’t Muslims, either.

James May
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“M J Locke retweeted Lynne M Thomas @lynnemthomas · Jan 7 Horrified by events in Paris and Colorado. Doubly so by the difference in reporting upon the two.” Remember that dipshit Thomas from the women-hating word which is all vulgar gendered slang? A big firecracker that someone may have done on purpose to gain sympathy and dead people and this moron compares the two. The SJWs are out in force doing this about the phony NAACP “bombing.” “M J Locke retweeted John Scalzi @scalzi · 22h 22 hours ago As a non-Muslim, I’d like to apologize to Muslims for the… Read more »
Earl Rogers
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Sometimes they need it screamed at them: SJWs, Islam is -not- a race!

It’s a religion! The majority of Muslims living in Europe are those white and/or Mediterranean types that you disdain and bash so much because “privilege”!

This was not racist!

And the NAACP non-bombing that hurt no one and caused almost imperceptible damage -WAS REPORTED ON-.

*puff puff pant gasp*

The real toxic group? Them. -_-

snelson134
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And this is why I’ve been saying since 9/12/2001 that Bush’s greatest mistake wasn’t in first dealing with the Fifth Column here so that we could actually fight a war anywhere else.

Hopefully, Americans won’t make that mistake again.

saintonge235
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Alas, snelson, the “Fifth Columnists” won’t be dealt with because they are, effectively, the majority. The United States is a liberal country. Those of us who are non-liberals need to secede and set up the kind of society we wish.

snelson134
Guest

You might want to rethink that in light of actual American history. The Revolutionary War wasn’t fought by the Patriot majority; it was fought by the 10-20% of the population that were Patriots against the 10-20% of the Tories, and that figure counts the active supporters; only about 3% actually carried weapons. The bulk of the population wanted to be left alone, and was.

The committed Leftists are no more a majority now than the Tories were then.

saintonge235
Guest

Civil War Two ‘This time, with nukes!’ is what I’d like to avoid. The liberals are a majority at the ballot box. Creating a country where they can’t vote is NOT the way to the kind of country I want to live in.

Ted N
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Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan! O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil’s kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can’t slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a bitch, make subjects of Christian sons; we’ve no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck your mother. You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-fucker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of… Read more »
Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

“@arthur_affect
God I wouldn’t want to be a Muslim in this country. This ritual of “Yes! Yes! Mock me! Shit on me!” to prove you’re not a terrorist”

60guilders
Guest

I wouldn’t want to be a Christian in a Muslim country either. Seeing as, y’know, my life would be kind of at risk every single day.
Even assuming that this idiot was at all correct.

James May
Guest

As usual a social justice warrior is incapable of seeing “compared to what.” China, Egypt, Nigeria? Who?

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James May
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Has anyone noticed how the America social justice drones are bringing up the racism of Charlie Hebdo although that has played no part in the attacks? Defaming the prophet has nothing to do with stuff like that in Muslim countries, not did it in this instance. The caricatures Hebdo used are classic caricatures indistinguishable from the same caricatures used in the Muslim press when they tackle the issue in a more oblique generic terrorism manner. SJWs in one shot show how they grasp at straws to keep their hate afloat and also project their provincial cave-like views onto a culture… Read more »
BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

It isn’t my favorite style of drawing. A lot of the ones I like better are not suited as suited for the purpose.

Cartoons necessarily simplify. They have to come up with design features that communicate things about who the characters actually are.

A magazine targeted at a general audience, drawn by a variety of illustrators, and using the whole spectrum of public figures cannot afford to get too fancy with its visual language.

Tim Scott
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Has anyone here heard of Dr. Bill Warner? He runs a website called Political Islam. He posted an interesting analysis of the long standing, if undeclared, war between Islam and The West. You can find it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y if you’re interested. He looks a little wild-eyed in that video but his more recent ones, posted on his YouTube channel, look a bit calmer. I think someone had a talk with him about “optics”. It’s an interesting video, takes about an hour to watch.

baronesaselenenott
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I lived in France long time and unfortunately I had to live with the majority of French racists, only a few did not care about my nationality, nobody deserves to die. One question that arises me, Who are we Westerners to judge them, to say that their ideology is not correct?, Muslims have been victims of invasions since time immemorial, Westerners have invaded their territories to teach, what is right and what is wrong. Respect is shown and win, we Westerners have never respected them enough, we believe ourselves with the right to judge them, invade their countries, all these… Read more »
CombatMissionary
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Wait a minute. Is this tongue-in-cheek, or are you serious? You call the French racist, and you fail to differentiate among Westerners. You lay at the feet of every Western nation all atrocities ever committed against Muslims. Racist. Or culturist. This is patently ridiculous, first, because the Muslim world is full of factions and divisions itself, who are constantly committing atrocities against each other. Islam itself is not united. But it’s apparently full enough of ignorant barbarians that it won’t police itself. The West has been making overtones of peace for decades, and the followers of Islam continue to kill,… Read more »
Andrew
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Seriously. Charlie Hebdo had it coming. Look at how she was dressed.

junior
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“One question that arises me, Who are we Westerners to judge them, to say that their ideology is not correct?, Muslims have been victims of invasions since time immemorial, Westerners have invaded their territories to teach, what is right and what is wrong.” ——————————- Seriously? Vienna. Tours. Al Andalus. Byzantium. Greece. Romania. The first two are locations where Islamic invasions of Europe were turned back. The fourth used to be the center of Orthodox Christianity until the Turks overran it. The remaining three are regions that used to have Islamic warlords ruling over Christian populations (that third item is a… Read more »
Matt
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It’s a war of ideologies. I believe that Western society is ideollogically superior and I want it to succeed. Western society has made a great deal of progress over the last few hundred years and I want it to continue. I do not want to see a collapse into barbarism.

pavepusher
Guest

Stupid French. Get it right you dunderheads.

‪#‎JesuisCharlieavecunpistolet

James May
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As expected, the core SFF community has spoken with one voice about Charlie Hebdo and it is exactly as one might’ve predicted and completely consistent with their apartheid rules of race and gender. There is not a single one that has not toed the line. And they laughingly tell us core fandom at the Hugos has no political or social ideology and agenda. When you swim in an ocean with only one species that is not going to seem like a supremacy, but a natural act. You give me any issue near and dear to the heart of a social… Read more »
Finka
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Madrid bombings 2004, London subway bombings 2005 and riots 2011, also there have been few beheadings in UK, Lars Vilks almost lost his life because of a cartoon, Jyllands posten attack in Denmark, riots in Stockhom 2013… They do have one denominator. And once you start looking for these sort of news from Europe you’ll be appaled, …some are just plain insane (good example of this is Sweden).

Google Pat Condell.

We are here in deep ideological shit. This is like some Orwellian-nightmare. And as usual it seems it’s getting worse before it gets better.

Farhund
Guest

I just heard a reporter on tv (British, I believe) say they weren’t sure if the kosher market was chosen for its “religious connotations.” Maybe they just got bad service…

Andrew
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Hope this isn’t obnoxious link-dropping, but I see some people here struggling to articulate what I was struggling with, which is that tolerance is obviously very important to me but I also believe in kicking ass. I just really fucking hate bullies and it starts to drive me goddamn crazy when I get presented with this false dichotomy of “Kick Ass” or “Be Tolerant” as if you can’t do both or get told anger is never appropriate because someone is trying to force me onto their agenda. http://thedorkknightreturns.com/2015/01/08/on-the-importance-of-tolerance-and-kicking-ass/ PS I know I’m not lined up exactly with everyone on the… Read more »
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Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik
James May
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Just another social justice warrior lying about this being about racism when in fact it was about anti-blasphemy rules in Islam. In fact those dead were exactly like Salmon Rushdie. Rely on stupidity from every word from Chu, who is an anti-white racist anyway. And what’s “Taunting the tauntable”? Is that meant to piss people off? What about racist demonization theories under that banner? Is Chu arguing SF writers are asking for it if someone thinks their humor is off-key or their writing racist? What a moron. More proof SJWs are high-functioning retards. They can be an encyclopedia and not… Read more »
Earl Rogers
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“You see, I’m from the internet. Things move pretty fast here.”

Spoken like somebody who spends 99% of their time screaming at huffy tweets while demonizing murdered actual flesh and blood people.

Step away from your computer once in a while, Arthur.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

Lots of people are taking whacks at him now.

“John Brown @humidpress
· 9h 9 hours ago
@Popehat @arthur_affect @seemorebuttsman Arthur gives intellectual cover to those who slaughter innocent people. That’s all you need to know”

Achillea
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I almost felt bad as I beat him like a pinata until candy fell out.

Might well have been brown, but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t chocolate.

Christopher M. Chupik
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Christopher M. Chupik

More Chu:

“@arthur_affect
For ppl who want me to keep #CharlieHebdo in perspective the perspective is every time a terrorist kills 12 the military kills thousands”

saintonge235
Guest

So, we’ll see “the military” go slaughter 34,000 Muslims in a few days, in retaliation for the French murders, right?

Don’t hold your breath, though.

BrendaK
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Thank you, Larry Correia. Thank you for saying so eloquently what so many need to hear, and so many others wish they could express.

Miriam M
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Oh how quickly people have forgotten the Cold War and former President Reagan not being afraid call the USSR the Evil Empire it was in a highly publicized speech and calling Gorbachev out to tear down the Wall. It doesn’t take long once you shine the bright lights on evil and quit pretending it isn’t in the room to clean it up. The longer it takes to call it out however, the bigger it gets and the harder it’s gonna be to remove from where we live. We need a CIC who has the cojones of former President Reagan to… Read more »
junior
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Too many of the libs don’t believe that Reagan brought down the USSR. They believe that it “just happened” to come down on his watch.

James May
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A couple of years ago I wrote an open letter to the SFWA warning them about hate speech. In that case it was about two Nebula nominees: Aliette de Bodard in Paris and Saladin Ahmed, the anti-white Muslim. How prophetic and symbolic: Paris and a Muslim. I didn’t warn them because of some academic interest in hate speech but because I was confident hate speech ends in violence. I was laughed at by the former and current presidents of the SFWA and called a racist, though I never indulge in group defamation based on race, sex and gender expression. I… Read more »
Tarl
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OT: Larry, you should give a shout out to Chuck Dixon’s new Bad Times book, because it is the best one yet!

(I only know about them because you recommended the first one.)

Kevin Findley
Guest

Watching that rally today reminded me of something and then a few hours ago it hit me. The President had his ‘Selma’ moment in Paris today and he missed it completely.

Dave W.
Guest

Now we have a firebombing in Germany. I’ve been to Hamburg, it’s a nice place.

http://news.yahoo.com/arson-attack-german-paper-ran-charlie-hebdo-cartoons-065348454.html

James May
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https://twitter.com/SofiaSamatar/status/552974233916407808

There’s your John W. Campbell Award-winner right there.

Earl Rogers
Guest

I think the Moral Equivalence crowd has outdone themselves. According to a BBC reporter Tim Wilcox, Jewish people of French nationality are responsible for “Palestinians suffering at the hands of Israel.” Because Jews, they’re ALL alike. And all evil, don’cha know!

….good frickin’ GRIEF.

Earl Rogers
Guest

Also:

Fact, most of Israel’s population self-identifies as atheist.

Fact, the conflict with Palestine is a conflict of property, not of religious belief.

Fact, blaming all Jews worldwide for the actions of the country of Israel, then pretending that Israel’s actions are determined by religion is the biggest load of you-know-what ever.

1LTLos
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YOU yourself refer to this as gun violence. Kind of stupid to look at things that way when it is the murderous insane madmen hiding behind some religion they refer to as peaceful isnt it. The firearm is a machine that has no capacity to act on its own — Stop referencing “gun violence” because I will bet you all your earthly possessions against mine that I can load and then place a firearm on safe position in the center of a table with me on one side and you on the other. When that firearm goes off and commits… Read more »
Leit
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Did Charles Manson get internet access somehow?

Patrick Chester
Guest

I did a quick search of “gun violence” through this article and the comments. It shows up twice in the entire thread.

Both times in your comment.

Now it will show up a third time in mine.

Odd.

Leit
Guest

Hey, for folks who count 20 year old gang-bangers as “children” and suicides as victims of “gun crime”, I guess calling terrorism “gun violence” is pretty natural.

Still, I’m calling this as a (moderately successful) derailing attempt.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1052065&d=1408544962

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool

Calling 20 year old gang bangers children is racist when the gang banger is of a certain demographic.

Part of the practice of segregation was that males of a certain demographic were always boys and never men. Even when the men in question were sixty years old and skilled in trades.

This supports the contention that gun control is inherently white supremacist.

James May
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If it’s any consolation, a famous anti-Semitic Egyptian feminist named Mona Eltahawy had both her forearms broken in Tahrir Square by the Egyptian police. She left that vibrancy of non-Western gender-fluidity for America, where she now lives. The desire of Social Justice Warriors to defend Islam is only matched by their desire to make sure they never actually live within Islam. But like Rick and Elsa always had Paris, we’ll always have Mona and Cairo. Now if only we could convince Amanda Marcotte and SFF’s Islamophile feminists to move there I’m sure there’d be many happy memories and selfies. They’ll… Read more »
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