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Why Eric Holder should be in jail and the WaPo sucks balls

I’ve got a feeling there is going to be some profanity in this post…

Eric Holder should be in jail, and with this week’s usage of Executive Privilege to head off a congressional investigation, it looks like Barack Obama might get to be his cellmate.If you haven’t been paying attention to the Fast & Furious fiasco, (and I’m not talking about the Vin Diesel movies) you really should start. It is far bigger than Watergate. Watergate didn’t have a body count.

It is understandable if you haven’t heard about this scandal until now, because the mainstream media has mostly ignored it or tried to downplay it so it doesn’t cause any harm to Obama. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/06/20/Big-Three-Networks-Cover-Fast-and-Furious-Updates-Only-CBS-Satisfies?utm_source=e_breitbart_com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+June+21%2C+2012&utm_campaign=Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+June+21%2C+2012&utm_term=More

However, with the events of the last few days, even those partisan hacks won’t be able to ignore F&F anymore. Now they’ll just try to spin the narrative to make it some sort of republican witch hunt.

I wish that was it. Because the ugly reality is that the federal government committed several thousand felonies, got a bunch of people killed, all in order to push a political agenda, and now it appears that the president is complicit in the cover up.

For those of you who haven’t been paying attention, Fast & Furious was a DOJ/ATF project that knowingly allowed straw purchasers for the Mexican drug cartels to purchase firearms from American gun dealers in order to ship them into Mexico. When the American dealers contacted the ATF about suspicious purchases (like they are required to by law)* the ATF told them to let the transfers go through. Several thousand American guns went over the border to the cartels, where they were then used in thousands of crimes.

The best estimate is that around 300 Mexicans have been murdered using these weapons. The lid was finally blown off of F&F about a year and half ago when a US Border Patrol Agent named Brian Terry was murdered with one of these F&F guns.

The supposed reasoning behind F&F was to track the flow of guns through the criminal underworld… Uh huh… That’s how the DOJ is spinning it now that they got caught, but let’s look at this logically. The DOJ’s justification doesn’t pass the smell test. Gun rights activists, bloggers, and a handful of actual journalists have been working on dredging up F&F details for 18 months now, and it is pretty damning.

The guns crossed the border and then simply weren’t tracked. There was no mechanism in place to track the guns. The Mexican authorities weren’t even notified about the operation. It would seem that for a tracking operation, they might have wanted some… I don’t know, tracking involved.

This week Holder told congress that his DOJ had inherited the project from Bush’s DOJ… (wow, it is all Bush’s fault. We’ve never heard that from the Obama administration before!) Holder was only partially lying this time. The Bush DOJ tried a similar project called Gunrunner, which was also about trying to track the flow of guns, and it was a complete and total embarrassing stupid failure and was cancelled.  But, and this is a huge but, Gunrunner actually attempted to track the guns with tracking devices and aerial surveillance.

EDIT:  as was pointed out in the comments, I w as incorrect, the Bush era operation was actually called Operation Wide Receiver. Gunrunner was part of the F&F.

So with tracking devices and airplanes, GR still failed to actually catch any of the cartel bad guys… So F&F comes along under Holder and supposedly has the same mission as Gunrunner, only it doesn’t have any sort of actual law enforcement investigation attached. It is just guns going across the border in some nebulous hand wave reason of “tracking”. That doesn’t hold up.

So what was the real reason for this big, dangerous, stupid, deadly, illegal operation?  It certainly wasn’t to track the flow of the illicit Mexican arms trade, because once the guns crossed the border, the next time they showed up was when the serial numbers were read at crime scenes around the bodies of dead Mexicans. NBC is now calling F&F a “flawed sting” but it was actually impossible for F&F to serve any legitimate law enforcement sting purpose from the start.

Do you all remember a couple of years ago the deluge of news reports about how all of Mexico’s massive crime problems are the fault of America’s lax gun laws? Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, even spoke about this grave issue. Something needed to be done about this horrible problem! Won’t somebody think of the children!

Yet, when you looked at the actual stats, only a small percentage of Mexico’s crime guns came from legitimate American sources, and considering that we’re talking about a criminal enterprise with a net worth bigger than most countries, that bribes entire Mexican army units, and owns freaking submarines, that narrative is extra stupid.

So, you’ve got an administration that hates civilian gun ownership, laying the narrative groundwork about how we need stricter gun control because of Reason X, and then in that same time frame that same administration starts an operation that directly contributes a whole lot more Reason X. Well huh… Considering that F&F’s stated mission was impossible from the get go, that’s a little suspicious isn’t it?  Or in the words of Sherlock Holmes, when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

But as repulsive as that line of thought is, it is irrelevant. For the purposes of justice, we don’t care why they committed the crime, just whether they are guilty or not.

Once Brian Terry was murdered with an F&F gun, the lights came on and the cockroaches scattered. You can get detailed timelines about the DOJ’s ham-fisted response online. Eric Holder tried to stonewall to make the whole thing go away, but congressman Darrel Issa is part pit bull, and has spent the last year kicking Holder’s ass. An investigation was started, and every step of the way Holder either lied, hid evidence, or refused to present internal documents.

At this point it isn’t even a question of whether the DOJ broke the law, but how much they sucked at breaking it, and how high did it go?  A lot of us have been wondering if the president knew about and allowed F&F to proceed. He is on record having made a few cryptic comments about working on the gun “problem” during the right timeframe.

So this week Barack Obama invoked executive privilege for the first time to try and protect F&F documents.

Wow.

Things are about to get remarkably interesting.

Don’t believe anybody who says that this is some sort of republican witch hunt or an election year stunt. The timing is irrelevant since Holder could have simply handed over the requested documents last year, but he didn’t because he had something to hide. The really sad part is that the vote to censure Holder was split exactly on party lines. Surprise. This shouldn’t be about party. If this had been a republican DOJ then I’d want them hung from the nearest tree.

F&F is huge. It is far worse than Watergate or Plamegate, or any Whatevergate. This isn’t Clinton getting a blowjob and then committing perjury about it. We’re talking about three hundred plus dead people.

The media is trying hard to spin this. For example the WaPo, the same dipshit newspaper that can somehow manage to connect Romney to massacres in the 1870s, wrote this bit of tripe: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-congress-blowing-gunsmoke/2012/06/20/gJQA4eULrV_story.html

Every single bit of that editorial is pure spun bullshit. All of Holder’s stonewalling, lies, and refusal to divulge information is glossed over, while everything else is pedantically dismissed. He points out how Holder handed over some documents, but leaves out the 90,000 other pages he didn’t hand over.

This is how he sums up F&F:

 Terry’s death is indeed a scandal, part of the “Fast and Furious” operation in which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives lost track of 2,000 guns it was planning to trace on their way to Mexican drug cartels; two of those firearms were found near Terry’s body.

Lost track? Whoops? I could’ve swore I left a couple thousand guns laying around here somewhere… Hmm… That’s either a super nice way to put it, or Dana Milbank is a fucking idiot.

I especially like the quote in there from Elijah Cummings about how Issa calling Holder a liar was highly inflammatory. Personally, I’d call liar a fairly truthful assessment. If he wasn’t a liar, then why does he keep having to retract statements where he was caught lying? An example of a highly inflammatory statement would be saying that Eric Holder is a disgrace to the office of the attorney general, and a scum-sucking bureaucratic parasite that represents all that is wrong with the federal government, who should be arrested, prosecuted, convicted, and then sent to serve his time in a Mexican prison where he can get his shit pushed in by friends of the three hundred and some odd Mexicans whose death he was complicit with.

But maybe I shouldn’t hold back and let you know how I really feel about the whole thing… Eric Holder’s Justice Department is a sick joke and a blight on America. He couldn’t prosecute Black Panthers threatening people with clubs at the polls, because he was too busy shipping thousands of guns to a criminal organization so violent they make the Taliban look like the Girl Scouts. The only discernible reason for F&F to exist was to push a political agenda, but they screwed up and killed a bunch of people, got caught, and now they are whining about it. If I’d knowingly sold a gun to a violent criminal, and then that criminal killed somebody, then I would have been considered an accessory and prosecuted, but if I shipped several thousand I’d just be a DOJ official.

Dana Milbank, fucking idiot, referred to congressman Jason Chaffetz as “volatile” for saying “We have a dead United States Border Patrol agent, and we have a government that’s withholding information so that we cannot get to the bottom of it.”

That was volatile? Do you sleep in a helmet, Mr. Milbank? If the press would quit fellating the president for a few minutes, you might want to maybe think about how it is congress’ freaking job to question little things like the executive branch committing several thousand felonies. Milbank brings up congress’ crappy approval rating, like that somehow invalidates them doing their job… Nice try douchebag. In a country where the biggest news organization talked about F&F for all of 8 SECONDS over the last year, how does public awareness and poll numbers have any bearing on them performing their actual job?

FI, Dana Milbank, then closes with this little gem. The indignation would sound more genuine if Republicans weren’t going after Holder over what has happened since Terry died.

Naw. We already know that the DOJ is incredibly corrupt. The real question, Dana Milbank, you quisling ditz, is how much Barack Obama knew about this?

*- As a former gun dealer, believe me when I say that if we have even the slightest hunch that we are dealing with a customer trying to break the law, we don’t do the sale. A straw purchase is when somebody who can pass a background check comes in and buys a gun on behalf of somebody who can’t pass a background check, and a dealer can lose his license and go to jail for knowingly selling the gun.

Gun dealers are a very law abiding bunch for the most part, yet there is a federal agency tasked with busting gun dealers that needs to continually justify its existence. So since the dealers aren’t trying to commit crimes on purpose, the ATF spends a lot of energy trying to get dealers to break the law, often through snitches and fake straw buyers. So if a dealer thinks something is odd, they aren’t going to sell the gun, because they don’t want to go to jail.

On some of the F&F sales, the dealers called their ATF agent because they were suspicious of the buyer. The ATF had to tell these gun dealers to go ahead and complete the sales. When F&F broke, the ATF tried to hang those dealers out to dry, but luckily they had documented that their ATF agents had okayed the transfer.

EDIT 1:  And this just in. So much for it being a conspiracy theory.  http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57338546-10391695/documents-atf-used-fast-and-furious-to-make-the-case-for-gun-regulations/  ATF was trying to use the F&F sales to justify new regulations. And from CBS of all places!

And a note, I complain about the news media a lot (like for example, the WaPo editorial above, which is just brazenly stupid), however CBS has been doing excellent work. Actual journalistic investigation type stuff! From reporters! I know, right? Way to go CBS.

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tuco
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tuco
4 years 9 days ago

Does this mean we will no longer be seeing news stories that show M4’s, AK47s with full auto, SBR’s, SBS’s, RPG’s, and fucking hand grenades as the narrator talks about guns purchased at American gun stores getting into Mexico?

This whole thing is bad news for our president, I think, and deservedly so it looks. Even worse though, it makes America look like shit.

Kristopher
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Kristopher
4 years 8 days ago

The one time they did that, folks in the Blogosphere blew up stills from the video, got the serial numbers on the M-4s displayed, and traced them to sales by Colt to the Mexican Army.

Alejandro
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Alejandro
4 years 2 days ago
I’d like to see the link to the article. Now, maybe those guns where sold to the Méxican Army, but the Army itself rarely uses them, as we locally produce the G3 (Because HK Sucks, but sells licensing), those M4s where likely sold to Mexican police forces, and those where either captured, or sold by defecting or corrupt police officers, it wouldn’t be a surprise. But as well as the “90% weapons used in crime comes from America” myth, the “AR-15s found in the crime scene comes from Mexican Army” myth has to stop. We have to see the global… Read more »
Karl Sandwell-Weiss
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Karl Sandwell-Weiss
4 years 9 days ago

If Country A provides military weapons to groups in Country B, and the weapons are then used to murder police, army, reporters, and innocent civilians, I think Country B would be fully within international rights to declare war on Country A.

blorg
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blorg
4 years 9 days ago

Fuck the ATF, Eric Holder and Zero with a rusty pitchfork

Rob Crawford
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Rob Crawford
4 years 9 days ago

It’s really worse than you describe it. It wasn’t just border-state dealers and guns into Mexico:

http://www.examiner.com/article/exclusive-report-documents-indicate-atf-fbi-allowed-indiana-crime-gun-sales

Nick
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Nick
4 years 9 days ago

so Gunrunner was the Bush program and it was cancelled? I haven’t heard that bit. I was under the impression the two programs were the same one operating continuously through both administrations.

I’m not doubting you. It’s just new information to me. It makes the Obama administration look worse.

Tannim111
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Tannim111
4 years 9 days ago

The Bush one was called Wide Receiver, if I recall correctly.

NKR
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NKR
4 years 8 days ago
The Bush program was begun in 2006, IIRC, with full knowledge and involvement of the Mexican government (the Mexican government was completely unaware of Obama’s program) and was ended in 2007 (again, IIRC) after they lost 2 of the guns. It was clear they couldn’t track them and, being responsible humans, they closed the program before they lost anymore weapons. Obama’s program — Fast and Furious — started in 2009 with nothing but the sales. No tracking. Agents were told NOT to track the guns. It’s beyond disgusting. When someone tells you this was a Bush program they are either… Read more »
RES
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RES
4 years 7 days ago

One minor addendum: the guns trafficked in OWR were equipped with GPS tracking devices. The operation was terminated when we discovered the devices had been found and were being removed by the Mexican Drug Cartels.

OWR:
Guns had tracking devices implanted
Guns sold to straw buyers for Mexican drug cartels
Mexican government advised of sales
Mexican government followed guns on their side of the border

OF&F
Guns sold to straw buyers for Mexican drug cartels

See, they were practically identical operations!!! With all the flaws of the first effort corrected in the second. /snark

saintonge235
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4 years 9 days ago

In related news, Holder has just recently retracted another lie, in which he claimed that the outgoing Attorney General was briefed on Fast & Furious.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/06/20/what-is-obama-administration-hiding-and-why/

Divemedic
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Divemedic
4 years 9 days ago

My prediction is that this goes absolutely nowhere. To the average American, it will appear to be more political interparty bickering. The government and this nation are so divided that a person could get away with gas chambers and concentration camps, and his own party would defend the practice.

Lemming
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Lemming
4 years 9 days ago

I continue to be puzzled by the “Bush did it too” defense. Setting aside that it’s not quite true, when did Bush become a beloved paragon of statesmanship to the Democrats? You’d think they’d aspire for a better legacy.

Janir
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4 years 9 days ago

Actually I beleive the Bush era program was called Wide Reciever, but otherwise the details are the same.

NKR
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NKR
4 years 8 days ago

No, they’re not. Bush’s program was put in place with cooperation and full knowledge of the Mexican government. Actually tracking of guns took place. They lost a couple of guns and shut the program down very quickly.

Obama’s program started in 2009, perhaps using the basic framework of Wide Receiver to start from, but they never, ever tracked any weapons. They coerced gun store owners to sell guns to people they didn’t want to sell to. They didn’t inform the Mexican government. Agents were told not to bother tracking the guns.

To say the programs are the same is simply not accurate.

thewriterinblack
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4 years 9 days ago
I, David L. Burkhead, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. Since being promoted to civilian I am under no regulations “according to” which I am required to obey the orders of the President, nor are there any… Read more »
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Brian Lewis
4 years 9 days ago
They took a stupid idea which failed and was canceled and was revived and made doubly stupid. Just like the dept of Energy loans to Solyndra and other green energy companies. The Bush admin. pulled the plug on the loan due to some dicey finances by the company but Obama not only approved the loan but gave them even more money. Every green company that has gotten money from the gov. has since gone belly up. There should be a law or process where in the case where the DOJ is accused of wrong doing a special prosecutor is automatically… Read more »
Hardware
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Hardware
4 years 9 days ago

Excellent write up. I suspect that the people to blame will be as hard as cockroaches to ferret out and crush. It’s amazing how the usual suspects are already trying to spin this. What’s mind boggling to me is the people on the left’s absolute ignorance of the crimes that have been committed.

I’ve snatched a bit with credit given, to deconstruct an apologist’s argument.

saintonge235
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4 years 9 days ago

You can’t completely blame the left for not knowing what was happening. The MSM has been suppressing the story.

Iron Spartan
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Iron Spartan
4 years 9 days ago

To get to the number of weapons that are being reported, the DOJ and media sources are counting any weapon that had a component cross US soil at any time.

This includes, but is not limited too: weapons sold to the Mexican Military that have been subsequently stolen; WWII, Korea, Vietnam and modern military surplus weapons purchased anywhere in the world; or weapons with components like magazines that can be traced to the US.

Spencer
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Spencer
4 years 9 days ago
Good post Larry! Since this whole thing showed up in the back on my mind this little voice kept saying “this was done on purpose”. The easiest way to get people to approve anti-gun legislation is to get people killed. Honestly I think the public was never supposed to know about F&F. I think eventually numbers were going to be released saying Mexicans were killed with American guns so we have to make it harder to buy guns. When an American agent died the deification hit the ossolator, and since then they have been trying to hide everything. I don’t… Read more »
Phil
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Phil
4 years 9 days ago

I also enjoy the fact that of 80,000 documents subpoenaed, the DOJ turned over about 7900. I’m pretty sure if the DOJ subpoenaed documents from someone, and said someone only turned over 10% of them, said someone would be in a BOP issued jumpsuit.

Piotr1600
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Piotr1600
4 years 9 days ago
I’ve been following this putrid example of anti-gun ideology since I first heard of Brian Terry’s death. Info has been hard to come by and difficult to verify but based on everything I have found here is I what I understanding is: As mentioned above, the Bush era program was called “Operation Wide Receiver”. It was a cooperative effort with the Mexican Gov’t., who was fully informed and involved. It was shut down when Mexican agents missed the handoff from US to Mexican observation and lost track of a shipment of guns on the Mexican side of the border. No… Read more »
Ken H
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Ken H
4 years 9 days ago

Executive Privilege is reserved, per the SCOTUS rulings related to Watergate, to maters of Military, Diplomatic or National Security where the POTUS is directly involved.

Here we have Obama claiming EP for something that is none of the above and also, by his own statements, something he knew nothing about. The lies are starting to smack into each other with frightening regularity…

Jake
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Jake
4 years 8 days ago
Maybe Obama really is justified in invoking EP. No, really, hear me out: as mentioned, EP is only acceptable when the POTUS is directly involved in Military, Diplomatic, or National Security matters. So, for this to be a legit use of EP, that would mean he thinks he is directly involved. If it turns out the plan really was to basically stage the murder of a bunch of Mexicans and hope that spurs the kind of restrictive gun control legislation Obama wanted, and it sounds more and more like that really was their plan, then this would have to proceed… Read more »
AdamPM
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AdamPM
4 years 7 days ago
EP doesn’t cover criminal acts. If the president was running a dope smuggling ring out of the WH and using military flights to transport drugs then there is no way he should be allowed to invoke EP to protect himself. (Not saying he is but using an example). If (and the evidence is really looking like) this was actually an attempt to enable the administration to enact stronger gun controls by knowingly allowing civilians to be killed with weapons the government ordered to be sold then it is indeed a criminal case. Been following this for quite a while and… Read more »
Six
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4 years 9 days ago

I’ll bet I heard “witch hunt” from the mouths of liberal apologists being interviewed yesterday about a thousand times.

Marching orders? What marching orders?

saintonge235
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4 years 9 days ago

Actually, there are no marching orders. It’s a swarm. Like any social insect, they react indentically to the same stimulus, and thus appear to be coordinated by a group mind. But there is no mind.

NKR
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NKR
4 years 8 days ago

I actually do think they got their talking points. The “swarm” aspect comes from the thralls out there in Democrat voter land who pick it up without even bothering to find out what the heck anyone’s talking about.

Just looking at the #witchhunt thread on Twitter that Larry’s been posting on is more than disheartening. What a bunch of puppets.

Kristopher
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Kristopher
4 years 8 days ago

Yep. Classic Hivemind behavior.

To the left, we are all just a bunch of bigoted gun-owning cousin-humping red-neck retards … so all responses to criticism of anyone in the Obama regime get shoved through that particular mold.

Kristopher
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Kristopher
4 years 8 days ago

NKR: the folks on the inside in the beltway throw out all sorts of garbage every day. Whatever resonates best with the leftist hivemind gets repeated continually, until it becomes embarrassing.

saintonge235
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4 years 8 days ago
No, NKR, that isn’t how it works. Whittaker Chambers gave a great illustration of the hive mind in _Witness_. He was still a Party member and spy when he read an anti-communist book about Soviet concentration camps, and it had moved him profoundly, and shaken his faith. But, he noted, what was important was that he’d read it in the first place. Previously, he would never have read the book. If he’d had to read it, for some reason, he’d have gone in ‘knowing’ that everything in it was a lie. And if, somehow, someone had forced him to check… Read more »
dyingearth
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dyingearth
4 years 9 days ago

As I’ve always maintain, this is the administration’s undeclared war against Mexico and Arizona. (And gun owner, but that goes without saying).

Douglas Hester
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4 years 9 days ago

“He is on record having made a few cryptic comments about working on the gun “problem” during the right timeframe”

The exact quote, as remembered by Sarah Brady herself:

“I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/guns/2011/05/25/obama-were-working-gun-control-under-radar#ixzz1yTbKhikv

Raymond McCune
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Raymond McCune
4 years 9 days ago

When Ben Franklin talked about our Republic he made sure we understood that ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ had to keep it that way by holding accountable those in office who abused power. Unfortunately he was also relying on an honest media (Newspapers and public debate) to reveal the rottenness and cleanse the wounds with truth. He’d be rolling in his grave over having given too much faith in these people.

Kristopher
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Kristopher
4 years 8 days ago

Holder does not deserve to suck balls.

This is something he is way beneath.

Kristopher
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Kristopher
4 years 8 days ago

And BTW … Holder has put himself in a big fucking trap by invoking Executive Privilege.

The next step if for Issa to demand a date from Holder … the date Obama even knew about this. Anything before that date would not be covered by executive privilege.

Kristopher
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Kristopher
4 years 8 days ago

Sorry, edit: “Obama has put Holder in a big fucking trap by …”

Kristopher
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Kristopher
4 years 8 days ago

Oh, and J&G Sales is fighting to keep their license … because when the BATFE ordered them to go ahead with an F&F sale, they refused, and demanded a Writ of Immunity before proceeding with the sale.

NKR
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NKR
4 years 8 days ago
I’m glad you posted on this, Larry. I think I’m almost as livid as you are. What disgusts me is that there are so many people who are buying this bullcrap about the Bush program and the Obama program being the same thing. Or that Holder should be commended for “ending the awful Bush program”. I love that Tapper explained to Carney (not that any of the other WHPC picked it up) that the Bush program ended before Obama was ever elected. The other thing that pisses me off: “botched sting operation”. Grrr! It wasn’t botched and it wasn’t a… Read more »
perlhaqr
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perlhaqr
4 years 8 days ago

It was a botched sting operation.

Against us.

Spencer
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Spencer
4 years 8 days ago

I think you’re right that the Obama administration didn’t want to be associated with this. I really think this was an organized effort on the part of this administration to demonize guns and make anti gun regulations more mainstream then they already are. That is the executive privilege they are trying to pull. To cover their asses and hide their anti-gun stance.
I just hope when a judge reviews the communication as is required to pull executive privilege the judge will say this isn’t protected as it’s goal was to purposely subverted the constitution.

Jake
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Jake
4 years 8 days ago
Hahaha, so let me get this straight: Holder is basically saying, “I never heard of F&F. Our plan was to sell guns to Mexican mobsters to see what crimes they could commit with them. Not telling the Mexican government about the program seemed fair at the time, since we didn’t know about it either. Tracking the guns seemed like work, so we just threatened a bunch of US private dealers into making the sales for us by proxy and hoped for the best. We inherited the program from the Bush Administration. The Bush Administration’s program was (identical/completely different/shut down in… Read more »
tuco
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tuco
4 years 8 days ago

All three. His supervillian name is Baron Bumblefuck von Devilstein.

tuco
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tuco
4 years 8 days ago

Looking at how Obama has dealt with people in the past who make him look bad (by bringing his own actions and beliefs to the fore usually), am I the only one who thinks that Holder has an imending date with the undercarriage of a bus?

Rob
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Rob
4 years 8 days ago

I don’t think he’d have pulled “executive privilege” if he were going to do that; Holder would already be under the bus.

There’s a good chance this goes all the way to the top and Obama has to protect Holder to protect himself.

NKR
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NKR
4 years 8 days ago

Bingo.

Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
4 years 8 days ago

My take is that Obama is calculating that this will stall things long enough for the MSM to make it all go away. However, if it doesn’t just blow over, Mr. Holder has an appointment with Underbus.

LittleRed1
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LittleRed1
4 years 8 days ago

What NKR said.

Archer
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Archer
4 years 8 days ago

Minor correction: “Gunrunner” is the firearm trafficking investigation run out of the Phoenix ATF office under Holder’s DoJ, of which “Fast & Furious” is a part.

The Bush-era investigation was called “Wide Receiver.”

Other than that, Excellent Rant!

Braden Lynch
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Braden Lynch
4 years 8 days ago

To put a little perspective on this with your doubting liberal friends, if Mexico had illegally shipped thousands of firearms into these United States to give to gangs which killed hundreds of Americans you can bet that we would be at war with them!

After we’re done with impeaching them, Holder and Obama (who must have approved of F&F) should be turned over to Mexican authorities for their prosecution, too.

Adam
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Adam
4 years 8 days ago

Well said.

SirBrass
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SirBrass
4 years 8 days ago

Like Mexico would actually DO anything. They’re too grateful to Obama for defending their right for us to be their dumping ground for their “unwanted”s to do that. All they’re doing is sitting back and trying to figure out how to wag the dog next.

tuco
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tuco
4 years 8 days ago

I’m pretty sure Mexico ships lots of stuff to this country which kills people. Drugs and Mexican criminals come to mind.

conni
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conni
4 years 8 days ago

Obama’s amnesty for illigal Mexican’s now make a little more sense. He’s trying to build up a positive lining of litter before the shit hits the fan.

Massimoto
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Massimoto
4 years 8 days ago

When this gets made into an Obama versus Bush question, or a debate about the things Obama has done being significantly worse than those actions taken by Bush, the entire point is occluded. We have administrations that regularly lie to serve their own ends and a voting population that is so concerned with immediate gratification that they allow Congress to mortgage the future indefinitely. This is ultimately our fault, we elect these people.

MikeG
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MikeG
4 years 8 days ago

In the past, the gun control crowd would wait for a gun related tragedy and then go on the media and scream for more gun control. Mayor Dinkins of New York even did so after a *stabbing*!
They’ve graduated to creating the tragedy themselves.

It reminds me of the 1970s poster of the two buzzards where one says to the other “Patience my a**, I’m going to go kill something”.

JohnR
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JohnR
4 years 8 days ago

Correia, damn, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, for doing your part to keep shining the light on the rodents and the vermin. I enjoy so very much your fiction *AND* your non-fiction. Keep up the good work, my friend.

Ray Tabler
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Ray Tabler
4 years 7 days ago
Larry, I’d just like to comment on your post about Eric Holder. I was just a kid when Watergate was going on. I thought I was too young to even pay attention to it, much less form an opinion. But the human mind is a funny thing. Some things did penetrate my youthful fog. My parents were both staunch Republicans. I remember them trying to make excuses for Nixon: “He hasn’t done anything that any other president hasn’t done. He just got caught.” “It’s not like they were real crimes.” “But, he’s been such a good president.” I had forgotten… Read more »
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Cyrano
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Cyrano
4 years 6 days ago

Look into sales made to gang members in Florida, specifically Tampa and Miami under the same program. Direct government sales to known criminals of FUNCTIONAL weapons….seriously.

guedenimbo
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4 years 1 day ago
That reminds me of just about every Law Enforcement Movie/TV show ever. In gun sale sting operations they alwayse stress that they took the firing pins out and damaged something else internally leaving only the sample gun/s working. Then depending on the show some double agent type person has the firing pins or whatever is needed to fix the guns. Chaos ensues yadda yadda yadda. So if Hollywood knows you don’t sell working guns to the bad guys why doesn’t this administration? After all this is the first celebrity POTUS doesn’t that make his entire cabinet pesudo celebs, or celebs… Read more »
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Garrett
4 years 6 days ago
I grew up a democrat but my party has sold out as has your republican party. The lines are blurred and the partisan crap we think we see is somewhat of a cover. Both parties may have differences but in the end their differences come from who pays them to do their bidding. It is disgusting the lack of ethics in our government. The better share of the media is sympathetic to liberal causes and policies but in the end Fox is not really a refreshing counter to that. They are far from a fair and balanced unbiased counter to… Read more »
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thewriterinblack
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4 years 1 day ago

Hey, Larry,

Over on my FB wall someone, in response to a comment I made about F&F (“What’s the difference between F&F and Watergate? 300 dead bodies”) made an allusion to Iran-Contra. Do you have any comments on that?

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