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A legitimate political movement

 

I keep hearing people say that Occupy Wall Street is a legitimate political movement…

They just want “fairness”.

The violent acts are from a handful of “bad apples”.

Sure, a couple of days ago they mailed fake anthrax to banks and tried to blow up a bridge, but those people don’t represent the movement…

Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi both say that OWS is a legitimate movement.

To celebrate the holiday that was taken over by Communists, the same people who murdered over 100,000,000 of their own citizens over the last century, OWS threw a party.

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michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 1 month ago

Oh, they still exist?

Proof that this really is the greatest nation on Earth.

And that there’s not enough police brutality.

Graham
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4 years 1 month ago

I’ll drink to that.

Tim Foutz
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4 years 1 month ago

I am a libertarian but these scum turn me in to a fan of cops. I would like to see some 7.62 NATO used on these vermin. I would do the world allot of good. I simply cannot abide the destruction of others property. However pepper spray and batons would be great too.

Mike
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Mike
4 years 1 month ago

There is no inconsistency between Libertarianism and the use of force against the OWS vermin. The contradiction is not to enforce those laws, properly enacted, against them.

perlhaqr
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perlhaqr
4 years 1 month ago

[T]here’s not enough police brutality.

I cannot agree with your sentiment. The police should arrest lawbreakers, but extrajudicial punishment on the part of law enforcement is an abomination.

joe
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joe
4 years 1 month ago
Police brutality doesnt have a place but somewhere below judicial punishment there needs to be a 1st layer of punishment Idealy it wou lt would be delivered by parrents or grand parents. I have no objection to the police distributing them as well. A simple cuff to the back of the skull with a hand or buttox (Night stick is excessive a flail or lash doubly so) AKA a Gibbs slap or Dope slap, Is an ideal method for dealing out Menial justice. Put Em up on the front porch of the court house Read off what yon dumbsmack did.… Read more »
michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 1 month ago
Quite seriously, part of the problem is the police are too lenient. One of the videos shows the cops spending 30 minutes pleading and dialoging with unreasonable idiots that they really must move or force will be used, pretty please, really truly, don’t make us do this, this is your last warning, your second last warning, just one more time… After 30 minutes, they gassed a few, who, predictably, were morally convinced the cops were all talk and no action. This made the situation worse. The totally reasonable response that should be endorsed and used is “Sir, you are blocking… Read more »
joe
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joe
4 years 1 month ago

I do not disagree with yoru assesment. but a night stick 1 leaves a bruise two can more easily kill. Is kind of street cred cool to say yea “I took a baton at such and such” Where as “dude slapped me on the back of the head me and told me I was a moron cuffed me and then they put me out front of the court house and did it again” is not cool.

The difference is slight but Physical wounds heal Psycological ones (as your books and other authors at Baen so eloquently illustrate) LAST.

michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 1 month ago

Certainly a valid argument if there’s no violence, merely resistance. Either way, though, once the law has been violated, tolerating further violations will not de-escalate the problem.

perlhaqr
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4 years 1 month ago

I think there’s probably an adequate amount of space between police pleading and cajoling with lawbreakers and “police brutality”, to allow the police to effectively do their jobs without resorting to excessive levels of violence..

Or maybe I’m making too much of the term “brutality”. *shrug*

Porter
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Porter
4 years 1 month ago

on LinkedIn you promised me profanity… 🙁

I keep waiting for you to go all Lorenzo on these punks.

Lee Falin
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4 years 1 month ago

I’ve never understood this whole movement. Their complaint is that other people have more money than they have, and their solution is to sit around and complain about it. Self-fullfilling prophecy?

Rev. Bob
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Rev. Bob
4 years 1 month ago

I hope you’re going to apply the same standards to the “pro-life” movement and the Tea Party. Stalking and killing abortion doctors, taking guns to political rallies, advocating the violent overthrow of an elected government…

Harry the Horrible
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Harry the Horrible
4 years 1 month ago
We don’t apply the same standards to the Tea Party and Right to Life. Our standards far higher. We arrest, try, convict and punish our violent members. Also, I don’t know of any violent Tea Partiers. The Tea Party is best known for leaving its protest areas cleaner than they found them. What is really fun is when lying bastards try hang folks on us who have no relation – like McVeigh and Loughner. That doesn’t seem to be the case for OWS (and media and the current regime). The support and protect this scum. As Mr. Williamson pointed out,… Read more »
Nate
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Nate
4 years 1 month ago

How many rapes have occurred at Tea Party rallies?

kylagwolf
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4 years 1 month ago

I have never once seen a tea party member threaten anyone. As for saying all conservatives are tea party members or “pro-life” you might want to stop assuming. And when did the Tea Party threaten to overthrow the government. If anything Obama and the rest of his stooges are going a pretty good job or ripping this country to shreds and destroying her reputation in the process. I think you have your tin foil hat on a bit tight, or majorly hoodwinked by the main stream media take your pick.

RabidAlien
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4 years 1 month ago

That’s just Darwin’s Survival of the Fittest waiting to happen. There should be scientists in white lab coats standing around with pencils and clipboards monitoring the process.

Nightcrawler
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Nightcrawler
4 years 1 month ago
Fry
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Fry
4 years 1 month ago

I am a fan of complaining which is why i became a republican. I to am a fan of sitting around, but money buys me books i like to read, the chair i like to sit in while reading and the effin house i keep my books and chair in!!! I agree with questioning authority and a lot of the ideas they have can be valid but the way in which they are going about things utterly blows.

Jack Franz
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4 years 1 month ago

No one tried to blow up a bridge. FBI paid conspirators were successful in convincing a group of inbred ohioans to place packages of play-do on a bridge. Slight difference, and I never understand why the ridiculous parts of propaganda are sited as legitimate when they colour people who don’t agree with you.

michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 1 month ago

Cite, please on the FBI “conspirators.” Provide documentation and evidence.

kylagwolf
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4 years 1 month ago

Jack and your proof of an FBI payoff came from where? Dude you seriously need to stop chugging the kool-aid your brain is rotting.

julie
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julie
4 years 1 month ago

I believe one of the ows that tried to blow up the bridge was in charge of the Columbus Ows their building lease etc were all in his name.

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Prince Starks-Bey
4 years 1 month ago

while I don’t agree with the OWS faction and hate to defend them. Those were photos and damaged done by anarchist groups who like to inter-mingle with the OWS group. They are usually quick to separate themselves from the anarchist. AS you know anarchist are so far to the right they are off the proverbial meter.

michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 1 month ago

Except for left “anarchists” whose political ideology is, “Tax the US and give the money to everyone else.”

And OWS doesn’t “distance” themselves from criminals. It embraces them, right up to the moment they get caught, then shouts and jerks about “FBI infiltrators” and “right wing operatives” and “teabagger astroturfers.”

monkeyfan
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monkeyfan
4 years 1 month ago

Somehow, I don’t think ‘anarchists for big government and free stolen crap’ are a creature of the right…At least not since from well before the Spanish Civil War.

OWS’ useful tools couldn’t even correctly wrap their heads around the whole Guy Fawkes thing either.

“Remember, remember…Some old damn day in November.”

perlhaqr
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4 years 1 month ago

Hard to distance yourself from anyone when your battle cry is that you represent “the 99%”. You are, by definition, claiming pretty much everyone at that point.

And I strongly doubt any of the brick pitching ninnies accompanying OWS were making $500k / year.

Nate
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Nate
4 years 1 month ago

Anarchist groups are allowed mic time to make speeches at Occupy rallies. They are 1 and the same. I do find it hilarious that people who are obsessed with “fairness”, abhor firearms, and lack any useful skills would advocate anarchy. The moment society collapsed they would become slaves to any unscrupulous person with a weapon or food.

DaveP.
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DaveP.
4 years 1 month ago

Nice seperation, letting them hang out in the same encampments, eat the same food, attend the same rallies, all without atempting to drive them away…
it appears the only “seperation” is when someone throws a brick through a window or rapes somebody, and there needs to be an excuse made to avoid responsibility.

thewriterinblack
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4 years 1 month ago

Not quite. The only “separation” is when they get _caught_ doing those things.

Christopher Burg
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4 years 1 month ago

That really depends on the anarchist in question.

While there are many anarchist philosophies that would be considered “right” such as anarcho-capitalism and voluntaryism most of the famous and more revolutionary anarchist philosophies (anarcho-communism, anarcho-syndicalism) are more to the “left” of the political spectrum.

The ones pictured breaking windows are revolutionary “leftist” anarchists (they were “celebrating” May Day, which they have claimed as International Workers’ Day). You usually don’t see many “right” anarchists breaking windows because they hold private property rights to be a keystone of society.

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helosar
4 years 1 month ago
With hat-tip to M. Python: Old woman! Man! Old Man, sorry. What knight live in that castle over there? I’m thirty seven. What? I’m thirty seven — I’m not old! Well, I can’t just call you `Man’. Well, you could say `Dennis’. Well, I didn’t know you were called `Dennis.’ Well, you didn’t bother to find out, did you? I did say sorry about the `old woman,’ but from the behind you looked– What I object to is you automatically treat me like an inferior! Well, I AM king… Oh king, eh, very nice. An’ how’d you get that, eh?… Read more »
Al
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Al
4 years 1 month ago
Had the same sort of “infiltration” happened at a Tea Party rally, the Neanderthals would have been policed by the citizenry present – not cheered. The only reason any of the thugs got away in Seattle is because the crowd let them merge seamlessly back in. “Hey, I’m just putting on the red shirt over the black hoody, let me be man!” And that’s -after- sheltering them on the way in, and reportedly, -training- with them on who-does-what. If you actually look at the “violence at the Tea Party” news, it’s all trumped up from “Caught an ass being violent… Read more »
Britt
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Britt
4 years 1 month ago

Uh the FBI is doing their usual “infiltrate a fringe group and push them into plotting” move. They did it to militias in the 90s, and Muslims groups in the 00s. Looks like Occupy is their next target. Classic fed entrapment going on.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/04/30/the-fbi-making-sure-we-dont-need-to-impo

If you’re in a fringe political group, and a new guy joins and starts advocating violent acts, he’s a fed. There are almost no exceptions. If Emanuel Goldstein doesn’t exist, the Party will create him. Because we must remain at war with Eastasia.

michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 1 month ago

I see connections to terror threats and the FBI. Cite, please, on the FBI in the Occutard movement, with names and evidence.

Britt
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Britt
4 years 1 month ago
That’s what the guy above is talking about I think: the federal agent was not passing on information or reporting plots, he was the one urging them to commit violence, handling the details, pressuring the ones who didn’t want to bomb the bridge. He’s not reporting on terrorist plots, he’s creating a terrorist plot. I mean jeez, mixing up an ANFO bomb isn’t hard but anything beyond that you’re going to need some training. The Occutards are grievance studies majors. They don’t work for commercial blasting companies, they don’t come out of the military with demo training. They literally are… Read more »
DaveP.
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DaveP.
4 years 1 month ago

You can’t cheat an honest man. If there really were “agitators”, the quickest way to get rid of them would have been to call the cops on them. Was this done? Of course not.

joe
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joe
4 years 1 month ago

Britt?

No training in explosives From the military, None from Demolitions,
With about 2 hours on the net i could probably whip up any thing short of a nuke. If a sheep herder from afghanistan with no formal education at all can whip up an IED Any person on this site with access to the web can do better.

Any idiot can make an explosion, only a slightly smarter person can manage to not be there when it goes off.

kylagwolf
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4 years 1 month ago

Britt take your garbage elsewhere they have been doing this since the beginning of destroying stuff so it is NOT an FBI plot to make them look stupid they are already doing that.

richard mcenroe (@richard_mcenroe)
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All five suspects are named and self-identified Occupados.

ronm0817
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ronm0817
4 years 1 month ago
As a 4th generation Texan, a Tea Party Member (Wilco in Round Rock), and a CCH Licensee’: I am dismayed that the Tea Party and Gun Owners are even remotely compared in any way to OWS per Rev Bob; as Mr. Correia says the argument of moral equivalence between the Actions of the Tea Party and the OWS self avowed anarchist is specious. As Harry the Horrible points out Right Wing evil doers are brought to justice, with the understanding that McVeigh and others were not Tea Party members and took their actions years before the movement. Their wrong headed… Read more »
Steelheart
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Steelheart
4 years 1 month ago

If you get that pro-choice tea party going be sure to get the word out as it sounds great!

Steelheart

ronm0817
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ronm0817
4 years 1 month ago
This is the truth. Women today are given no real way to secure their peace with themselves about the Pro Choice Contraception and have a wary alliance with the left over that single issue; knowing full well the rest of the agenda is bogus. The Right is too damned full of religiosity. Were I a woman I would be mucho pissed that I had to choke down all the stuff being spewed by just a few hardened anti-abortion factions when the majority of women need to be assured they can do what they need to do for themselves. We lose… Read more »
michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 1 month ago

The Dems by and large were smart enough to drop gun control and gain vote share.

When the Rs wise up enough to drop the utterly fabricated “pro-life” issue that started in the mid 70s, they’ll sweep elections.

Religiosity is the death of the party.

Harry the Horrible
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Harry the Horrible
4 years 1 month ago

In addition, neither McVeigh or Loughner were even “right wingers” by any rational standards.

michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 1 month ago

What, aren’t all “right wingers” anti-government, anti-tax, anarchists?

frompennsyltucky
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4 years 1 month ago
Where to start…super hard since everything about the “occupy” movement bothers me. This is what happens when an entire generation is raised to think that everyone should get a trophy, that there should be no competition in childhood, that hard work is not necessary…then take that generation and tell them for 13 years of schooling (K-12) that “everyone is special” and throw on the fact that there is no real punishment if you misbehave in school. Give these kids 4 additional years of schooling on student loans or the parent’s dime (without these kids having a clue how long it… Read more »
The Last of Fallen Demigods
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The Last of Fallen Demigods
4 years 1 month ago

Speaking as a public High School student, I heartily agree. Also the next few generations coming out of high school look like they’re the same as the OWSers. My history teacher is spending class hours teaching us about how OWS is the wave of the future, and that it is “empowered youths taking the future into their own hands to ensure fair play”. I’m also the only person in that class that knows how to use a shotgun. If that isn’t a bad sign, I’ll eat the hardcover version of Spellbound.

michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 1 month ago

No, that’s a good sign. They know how to whine and riot. You know how to stop a riot.

ronm0817
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ronm0817
4 years 1 month ago

Hang in there, try AR 15’s they are more fun.

frompennsyltucky
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4 years 1 month ago

I feel for you kids, it isn’t easy being part of the few who does not follow along with the ideology of the left in school. Know that it will pay off one day, as you will be one of the few that graduates with common sense.

ronm0817
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ronm0817
4 years 1 month ago
Very very well said. Even 40 ago or years in the 60’s my college government professors in were flaming liberals spewing exactly the liberal cant you describe to the weak minded or perhaps blank slates waiting to be written up on. When any one took the slightest issue with the Rhetoric he belittled, and used dismissive scorn to quell the those smart enough to see through the scam. Ridicule is a time honored method for bullying youth into submission because they have no mental fitness or agility to stand up to it. I agree after a long dose of liberal… Read more »
monkeyfan
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monkeyfan
4 years 1 month ago

The Gods of the Copybook Headings are equal opportunity b^tch slappers.

frompennsyltucky
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4 years 1 month ago
You speak truth. It pains me to sit in college classes and listen to the muck that comes out of the professors’ mouths. However, the one saving grace is that I am getting a business degree, so some of the profs are actual businessmen and women who don’t do that. It is mainly the core curriculum classes that I hear this mess in. I had a history teacher that used to spew her worldview out to the class, and it was positively sickening. She really needed to go back to her hippie drum circle, I’m sure they were missing her.
LittleRed1
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LittleRed1
4 years 1 month ago
OK, so it is not “real” OWS peace, love, and celestial harmony people who are assaulting fellow campers, destroying property, and waving placards with pictures of cops being beheaded and impaled by unicorns. And the real OWS people decry the acts after they happen. So why are the “real” Occupiers tolerating the Black Bloc et al in the first place? Why provide them cover so they can blend back into the march and then strike again a few blocks later (Seattle)? Why not stop them when the Black Bloc members assault bystanders and the media( NYC, Seattle, other places)? Sorry,… Read more »
rainydayninja
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rainydayninja
4 years 1 month ago

When you brand your movement as leaderless, without any clearly defined positions or demands, you lose any ability to denounce people who act on their own based on positions that you don’t like.

Nate
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Nate
4 years 1 month ago

If the morons had majored in something useful like chemistry or just taken the time to research they probably could’ve done some damage instead of looking like buffoons. No wonder they don’t have jobs.

Dear education system,
Please keep turning out these weak-minded, no life skill, uncompetitive idiots. They will be useful to me as serfs and fertilizer after society collapses and I fulfill my dream of becoming a feudal warlord.

joe
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joe
4 years 1 month ago

hey everybody needs cannon fodder.

robertpinkerton
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robertpinkerton
4 years 1 month ago

I respectfully submit that one loses political legitimacy in the act of masking one’s face at a political demonstration.

I submit further that persons who mask their faces at political demonstrations are exactly morally equivalent to Police personnel who remove their identifying numbered badges, in that both thereby give notice of intent to embark on unlawful behavior. (In the Police case, visiting extrajudicial violence under — tattered — “color of law” upon the demonstrators.)

Finally I submit that legitimate demonstrators should treat anyone who does mask his or her face, as a known Police provocateur, and send him or her to Coventry.

ronm0817
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ronm0817
4 years 1 month ago

I can agree with that. It is honest and smacks of yeoman bravery, If you want to make a mark be bold like John Hancock.

thomaspainelives
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thomaspainelives
4 years 1 month ago

Often, the police are told to take the badges off because of fear of reprisal. It’s not hard to get information on a police officer if you have their badge number. It’s when they use that as an excuse to go rogue, like Chicago police did in 1968, that they’re wrong. Moral equivalence is not exactly the way to win an argument.

fnord
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fnord
4 years 1 month ago

Let’s be fair. It’s evident that these poor folks are in an unbalanced mental state due to a dietery deficit: i.e. lead deficency.

200 grains supplied transdermally should fix them right up.

Hanna
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Hanna
4 years 1 month ago

Perhaps they should act more like the teabaggers, and actually start stomping on people smaller than themselves?

Hanna
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Hanna
4 years 1 month ago
Heh. You mean when the populists started running people through the guillotine, when the Democrats fought to keep slaves, or when the National Socialists invaded Poland? Riiiight – you think the National Socia1ists were leftist because they used the word “Socia1ist” – and you accuse others of having a poor grasp of social philosophy? The only thing more retarded than Jonah Goldberg’s bleatings are the morons who take him seriously. You’re just another right-wing apologist and dupe for elites who think they can continue to use violence to keep everyone else in line while they loot countries and exploit others.… Read more »
michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 1 month ago
Hi, Hanna. Great way to move the goal posts, avoid the issues, spell badly and re-write history. Remember, again, that the southern DEMOCRATS supported slavery, and the REPUBLICANS ended it. “Just because they use the word soc1alist…” Are you afraid to say the word? You should be. Take a look at the National Socialists’ SOCIAL policies. You still haven’t responded on FDR, a DEMOCRAT, stuffing 110,000 Americans into concentration camps and stealing their property, including many non-Japanese because all those Asians look the same, right? and sterilizing “undesirables.” No word on the 5.5 million troops killed by DEMOCRAT military excursions… Read more »
joe
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joe
4 years 1 month ago
Lets not forget HOW the National Socialists got into power Of the 25 point program of the National Socialist program 15 are pretty Democratic/OWS ideals (the other 10 seem somewhat rational or just blatently racist) 1. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population. 2. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled… Read more »
joe
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joe
4 years 1 month ago

Dont forget the Italians on the east coast that were prosecuted

My Grandparents couldnt own a Camera and were rounded up and put to work on APG “supervising” German pows. My Dad still has the Good Conduct comendation given to Oliver Angelo Menin

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Sentenza
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Sentenza
4 years 1 month ago

Mike, even if they do bring up Bush to compare to the various Democratic military excursions of the twentieth century, it still isn’t really a valid comparison. You can’t compare conscript armies to a volunteer force.

World War I, World War II, Korea, and Viet Nam were fought with largely conscript armies. Remember, though, the leftists are peace lovers that don’t think anyone should be forced to fight in a war. Remember, that’s what they yelled about Bush. But yet, FDR is one of the great heroes of leftists.

Sean(Houston) (@Cotyleus)
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4 years 1 month ago

Something for the liberals should remember since they seem so all fired determined to hobble not just freethinkers on the “right” or in the “middle’ but themselves as well…
“No man can put a chain about the ankle of his fellow man without at last finding the other end fastened about his own neck. ” Fredrick Douglass.

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4 years 1 month ago

Looks like you and I share a lot of the same views! Awesome article. I have a very similar site here too.

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Jim D
4 years 1 month ago

Can you say ‘Kristallnacht’? Because that is what the photos remind me of.

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