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Regardless of what they told you in school, FDR sucked

Newt Gingrich once said that FDR was his favorite president of the twentieth century, and perhaps of all American history. Newt says he is conservative, so that be would like somebody saying they are Christian, but their favorite angel is Lucifer.

Even if I didn’t know anything else about his history that alone tells me everything I need to know about Newt.  Newt is a historian. He’s not stupid. He knows better.

EDIT: This was just pointed out to me, that the soundbyte I heard was Newt talking about “Most Effective Leader” as opposed to “Best”.  Fair enough. That said, FDR still sucked and the post stays. 🙂  Looking online for actual clip now.

Bingo.  http://tv.breitbart.com/newt-fdr-was-the-greatest-president-of-the-20th-century/ 

Yep. Post stays. 

However most people don’t know any better. I hate when people who know jack squat about history tell me how awesome FDR was. I can see why though. Any high school history textbook has FDR down as Super President. All students know was that FDR was that nice old man in a wheelchair that had fireside chats, who then kicked Hitler’s ass.  Of course, academics are usually on the left, so why would they malign one of their folk heroes with pesky things like reality?

FDR was not a great president. The legacy he left behind was one of bloated nonsense that we are still suffering from today. Like our current president (FDX), he moved in on a crisis, and used it as an excuse to have the country take a massive left turn.

The Great part of the Great Depression was a result of his policies. Everyone else in the world came out of the depression before we did. The Weimar friggin’ Republic came out of it faster than we did. Remember the place with the wheelbarrows of Retenmarks to buy a loaf of bread? Yeah, that place pulled up faster than us. America’s government meddled too much in industry and finance to let a natural recovery happen.  We were too busy fixing prices, burning crops, and spending money on make-work projects. (you should have heard my grandpa go off on the W.P.A. It was many years before I learned that it didn’t actually stand for We Poke Along). 

FDR was so in favor of freedom, justice, and the American way, that when the Supreme Court began striking his socialist policies down as unconstitutional, he attempted to destroy the separation of powers by stacking the Supreme Court with more of his handpicked justices. The whole purpose of three branches of government was to keep one from becoming tyrannical. Think about that. FDR tried to destroy one of the fundamental elements of our constitutional government.

His foreign policy sucked. Period. FDR personally thought Mussolini was a swell guy. He handled Japan about as well as Obama is handling Iran.

On a personal level, FDR was such a loathsome human being that he couldn’t even keep a running mate, but he was fairly loyal to his mistresses. But on that count, I can’ t really blame him, because from all accounts his wife was a frigid ice queen that was “disgusted by the touch of a man”.

He was known for giving good speeches. Keep in mind that this was at the dawn of radio and he was the first president to ever take advantage of that medium. Americans were so excited by radio that FDR could have read out of a phone book for ten minutes and everyone still would have tuned in to listen.

I’ve written two books set in an alternative 1930s, so I’ve had to do a lot of research into that time period. The worst, most soul sucking, obnoxious part of that research has been listening to or reading anything by FDR. Knowing what we know now, and the results of his experiments in social engineering, make me grind my teeth.

When I mentioned my opinion of Newt’s pick for favorite president on a web forum earlier, someone pointed out that Newt specified that he liked FDR more in some periods than in others…  What, the early parts where his big government programs ruined the economy, or the middle part where his foreign policy didn’t do crap to prevent the biggest war in history, or the later part where he threw over a hundred thousand Americans into concentration camps?

Concentration camps.

But remember kids, it is Republicans that are racist and don’t care about civil liberties. Sure, the Democrat’s greatest hero took something like a hundred and forty thousand men, women, and children, ripped them from their homes with no due process or evidence of guilt, confiscated all their homes, property, and businesses, and then interred them in desolate camps in the desert for several years.

The same media that has an absolute come apart over civil liberties because the Bush administration water boarded a couple of terrorists, picks FDR as their Man of The Century.

 I used to live next to Topaz Mountain. The site of the old concentration camp is nothing but a barren patch of scrub desert now. It is cold there. Nasty, horrible biting cold. In the winter the wind rips right through you. I can’t even imagine living in a government supplied shack during a winter there. You stand in the middle of this barren patch of sand, and the realization hits you that our government imprisoned innocent Americans here, it punches you in the gut. We did this thing, and it was evil.  

If Newt was really a conservative, and he’s as educated and intelligent as he says he is, then there is no way that he would say FDR was a great, let alone the greatest, president. 

Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a product of the philosophy of his time. The traditional American idea was that people own the government. FDR believed that the government owns the people. FDR’s fundamental beliefs are the antithesis of what made America great.  

Screw FDR.

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jaredgarrett
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jaredgarrett
4 years 6 months ago

Thanks. I’ve been whispering “Newt-freaking-Gingrich” under my breath since the weekend.

Unreal.

tjic (@tjic)
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4 years 6 months ago

FDR was a pox not just on Americans, but on mankind.

He was the worst president ever.

He deserves to have his corpse dug up and his skull shat in.

(…yes, my opinions are somewhat out of step for the state of Massachusetts).

Mister Myst
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Mister Myst
4 years 6 months ago

I think Andrew Jackson may tie with him actually. Just like FDR, he tried to usurp the Supreme Court and let’s not forget the Trail of Tears.

My pick for best would probably be James Madison, but that’s more for his writing the majority of the Constitution than for anything he actually did as President.

BTW, I’ve heard nothing but good things about those books Mr. Correia mentioned. just ordered Hard Magic off Amazon yester day, and I can’t wait to dig into it.

michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 6 months ago

Well, that would be a start.

DonM
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4 years 6 months ago
I figure Buchanan or Wilson to be the worst. Buchanan set such an example of fecklessness that the rebels thought they could get away with insurrection that cost over 700,000 lives. Wilson: segregated the federal government, and made sure we began WWI nearly unarmed. HIs socialist policies of mass ineffectiveness were part of the reason why we suffered over 100,000 combat deaths, and another 800,000 deaths from disease. The accident of having P14 enfields in production is the only thing that let us ship our soldiers over to Europe with (Mostly) P17 rifles. The rest, the artillery, aircraft, machineguns were… Read more »
Matthew Butch
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Matthew Butch
4 years 6 months ago

Buchanan? No Lincoln was the worst. He started a war that cost 700,000 instead of letting a people govern themselves. He ended a great check on power (the states), and violated all parts of the Constitution (throwing press and Congressmen in jail).

DaveP.
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DaveP.
4 years 6 months ago

You really need to do some looking at Woodrow Wilson’s term in office. Really, you won’t belioeve you were in America.

Tim Foutz
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4 years 6 months ago
Don’t you all realize that NEWT GINIGRICH started off as a DEMOCRAT and only changed sides to get elected. He is a rabid statist Progressive (even worse than Obama). He must not be allowed anywhere near the Presidency. Also he has NO prayer of getting the nomination. I don’t think anyone will give him thier delegates expect his fellow traveler Ricky(I am not REALLY a Facist) Santorum who is even worse than Obama and Gringrich by the way. I think everyone else even all of the Delegates will get dumped to the second place person if Gingrich is in the… Read more »
Jazzbeaux
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Jazzbeaux
4 years 6 months ago

You, sir, are an idiot.

RES
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RES
4 years 6 months ago

Actually, I think an idiot would be somebody who, eschewing argument or reason, asserts an opinion without establishing their bona fides as an authority. I s’pose in some circles ad hominem argument is not fallacious, but such circles are intellectually jejune.

eric graem
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eric graem
3 years 10 months ago

wow.let me guess you are all tea party guys or rich.he was called a traitor to his class,rich people.idiots

Brian Lewis
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Brian Lewis
4 years 6 months ago

Seeing what we’ve got to choose from the republican party all I can say is…..we’re screwed. I’ve gotten to the point that none of them would I trust to run a lemonade stand let alone be president.

Justin Johanson
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4 years 6 months ago

Can’t wait to see how FDR handles the Actives in Grimnoir Chronicles book 3 😉 Thanks for the REAL History Lesson!

Justin Johanson
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4 years 6 months ago

How sad is it that the western Washington State Concentration camp is also where the Puyallup Fair happens?

blackjack
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4 years 6 months ago

Dont forget its also the place where you can still buy NICE guns every month. Got myself cases of 7.62 real cheap when Clinton was in office.

James
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James
4 years 6 months ago

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about JFK?

FDR has slowly fallen in my ratings as I learned more about him, but JFK tends to remain stable or go up as I learn more about him. Can’t say that about too many presidents, much less 20th century ones.

Dan
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Dan
4 years 6 months ago
As much as i might disagree on some points, you are right on most of the others. But with that said, like any president, it is a joke to lay all the blame at his feet. He became president in 33, not 29. And the dust bowl was already in full effect before 29. He didn’t encourage the banks to evict the farmers and force them to hope from place to place and then end up as slave labor for corporations that felt they could pay them meager sums of money. He also had a congress that was more than… Read more »
Calvin Gordon Dodge
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4 years 6 months ago

War is good for business? I suggest you search for “Bastiat” and “Broken Window Fallacy” before making statements which don’t match reality.

Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
4 years 6 months ago

If there is a myth I’d love to see done away with, it is “war is good for business”. Bullshit. But, one may say, WW2 spured the recovery of the American economy! Yes, in that pretty much every other country in the world that manufactured things had their factories bombed and burned except the US.
Instead, look at what happend to Imperial Russia or Germany during WW1, or better yet, post WW2 England with it’s rationing and austerity.

Fritz
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Fritz
4 years 6 months ago

The only ones who thrive in war is the Dogs of War on the winning side. (the arms manufacturers)

DonM
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4 years 6 months ago

War isn’t particularly good for arms manufacturers either when the income tax rate is at 90%. Jack Northrop was able to start his company, but after the war there were so many DC-3 planes out as surplus that the company almost folded, the workers suffered massive layoffs. Only the few companies with continuing defense contracts based on new technology (jets, flying wing, nuclear weapons, air refueling) survived, and they had tough times despite superior technology.

Fritz
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Fritz
4 years 6 months ago

Donm…
It’s not WWII…and this ain’t the OK Corral

RES
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RES
4 years 6 months ago

Hoover made the error of taking the advice of his opponents, employing policies which FDR put on steroids. Sorta the way George W Bush got screwed using trifling tax refunds as economic stimulus at the urging of Pelosi & Reid … and Obama doubled and redoubled down on those same errors.

Kristopher
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4 years 6 months ago

Hoover was an engineer.

He just had to find a way to fix things. If he had taken Coolidge’s route, and just kept his hands off, the depression would have recovered by the end of his term.

If he wanted to “do something”, he could have punished the officials at the Fed for not allowing other banks to prevent the stock market crash. The Fed flexed it’s new regulatory powers, and forbade other banks from selling the Bank of America short term loans during their depositor panic. This bank run was probably the kickoff for the stock market crash.

LittleRed1
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LittleRed1
4 years 6 months ago

Dan, small point. The Dust Bowl began in 1932, at least in the region considered the core of the Dust Bowl (western KS, the northern TX Panhandle, eastern NM, the OK Panhandle). The agricultural depression began in 1919, when prices for grains, cattle, pigs and cotton collapsed for a number of reasons. There was a severe drought in the Southern Plains in 1926-27, then average to good harvests through 1931 before the drought returned for the next four-five years. In terms of lack of moisture, the 1950s were drier but the dust did not blow as far.

RobertM
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4 years 6 months ago

Any book suggestions for someone who wants to learn more about the period, and the bs FDR pulled? It’s hard to find anything but praise for the man.

LittleRed1
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LittleRed1
4 years 6 months ago

For a slightly different side of FDR, try “FDR and the Environment.” It is a collection of essays about who and what influenced FDR’s approach to what became the CCC, Soil Conservation Service, Relocation Service, and other similar things.

RabidAlien
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4 years 6 months ago

I was always abivalent towards FDR, neither for nor against, until I read what he did to Poland during WWII. The Allies screwed Poland over, but it was FDR who personally nailed the “Royally” in front of “screwed”. If he can do that to an Ally (especially when it was done to appease Stalin), what else is he capable of doing?

RES
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RES
4 years 6 months ago

Two words: Katyn Forest.

RabidAlien
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4 years 6 months ago

Amen. *removes hat out of respect*

Yalta Conference. Poland was given to Uncle Joe without even a quick pause to refill their wine glasses. Churchill, at least, had the decency to feel bad about it later on, but went along with the big boys anyway.

DaveP.
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DaveP.
4 years 6 months ago

Wanna see something scary? Look up Vasili Blohkin, Major-General NKVD, who personally executed over 7000 men at Katyn Forest. Ten hours a night, one prisoner every three minutes.
You can’t make things like this up- nobody would believe them.

John
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4 years 6 months ago

Yes! I totally agree. FDR was horrible as a president in so many ways. Maybe you’ll get linked by instapundit again and bring the trolls back? That would be fun.

guyshane3006
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guyshane3006
4 years 6 months ago

Just saying he interfered with us supplying weapons to anyone fighting the axis in WWII. I believe that was key in helping us pull out of the depression.

bluesun
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4 years 6 months ago

I just say that I have an innate dislike of any “President for Life” in any country, and FDR was the epitome.

RES
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RES
4 years 6 months ago
I think it does a disservice to employ the same term for America’s Japanese internment camps and the Nazi’s concentration camps. Which is not to defend the policy (although Michelle Malkin has written well in defense of the policy.) It is one thing to understand the promptings of a policy and another to excuse the abuses perpetrated in execution of that policy. Still, it is as wrong to equate the Japanese internment camps with the Soviet gulags or the Nazi camps. That said, the internment camps were probably about 7.5 on a scale of 1 – 10, with the gulags… Read more »
michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 6 months ago

“Michelle Malkin has written well in defense of the policy.”

It was indefensible. Though it doesn’t surprise me that Malkin would think otherwise.

They imprisoned people of Japanese ancestry who no longer spoke Japanese, people of non-Japanese ancestry because all those slanteyes look the same, and confiscated quite a bit of property that was never returned. There were also some of German and Italian ancestry toss in there for good measure. The conditions were unsafe, unhealthy, and inadequately addressed.

Any pretense of a “good” side is hindsight propaganda.

Eric Anderson
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4 years 6 months ago
I grew up with folks who’s parents were born in the camps. When we arrived in California in 1972, there were still quite a few “Japanese” gardeners keeping suburban yards neat – because they or their father had lost everything to the “relocation” during the war, and there weren’t much of any jobs open to “Japs” without professional credentials after the war. Some of those high school graduates managed to save up enough money to open a grocery store or a nursery, but many did not. Nobody really talked about what had happened to their grand parents, or uncles, etc.… Read more »
Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
4 years 6 months ago

Putting your own people into concentration camps is a bit like rape. Pointing out that you didn’t also torture and murder your victims like the other guys did doesn’t make you any less wrong or less guilty.

Rick Randall
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4 years 6 months ago
So far as I know, the term “concentration camp” was coined by the British, to describe the internment failities where they “concentrated” Boers while pacifying those uppity Dutchmen in South Africa. The term “concentration camp” is 100% correct for the Japanese-American internment facilities. A suspect population was rounded up, and “concentrated” in camps for security reasons. (Never mind the fact that the suspicion was overblown hysteria flavored with a heavy hand of racism, and the security thus gained was mostly illusionary.) Oh, I’m sure that at least a couple of Japanese immigrants who might have been willing to do the… Read more »
Corey
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Corey
4 years 6 months ago
The Japanese camps were wrong,  but they were not based only on hysterical racism. They were an equal-opportunity wrong as evidenced by the internment of 110,000 Americans of German descent and the shipping of over 4,500 persons of German descent from Latin America to the U.S. for internment at the request of the U.S. Government. Yes, the FDR administration pressured foreign countries to round up their own citizens and ship them to the U.S. to be put in camps simply because of their (white btw) ancestry.   More info here http://www.gaic.info/internment_camp.html and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_internment   Doesn’t make what we did… Read more »
Rick Randall
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4 years 6 months ago
Uh, Corey? You seem to have added a zero to your German figures — 11,507 German internees (German POWs and honest-to-God German nationals – i.e., “enemy aliens” — don’t count, there were 1,100,000 enemy aliens in the US when we entered the war). Probably 1/3 of teh US population was of German descent — especially if the standards that were applied to US CITIZENS who had Japanese descent (under the regulations, “Japanese” was defined as as little as 1/16th Japanese ancestry. . . which would be a fourth generation American — and these regualtions were applied to orphans who had… Read more »
Corey
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Corey
4 years 6 months ago
Sorry, typo while doing this from my phone. Agreed that locking up foreign nationals from the country you are fighting against during a war is pretty much par for the course while locking up your own citizens because of where their ancestors came from is whole other issue. My point was that most people get locked into the racist! mindset when it comes to the Japanese internment program but an amazing number of people don’t even know that citizens of German and Italian ancestry were locked up as well. There was also more politics involved, people of Japanese ancestry happened… Read more »
richard mcenroe (@richard_mcenroe)
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Gingrich has expressed his admiration for Teddy Roosevelt the Progressive Eugenecist, too. So apparently the ideal Gingrich Presidency will save the trees, kill the Negroes and fuck with our jobs.

Patrick Mullane
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4 years 6 months ago

As an international reader, I’d mention a positive act of FDR was the land-lease problem: enabling much needed war material to be sent the UK.

Kristopher
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4 years 6 months ago

He could have just sat back and let the allies buy what they needed. Same as what we did during the first part of the first world war.

US banks would have probably lended the UK the cash needed, at normal interest.

wolfwalker
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4 years 6 months ago
“He could have just sat back and let the allies buy what they needed.” No, he couldn’t. One thing I haven’t seen mentioned here yet is the Neutrality Acts of the 1930s. In particular, the Neutrality Act of 1937 forbade selling weapons or issuing loans to belligerents in any international conflict. The sole exception was if the purchaser paid immediately, in full, in cash. One reason the British Empire went bust after the war was the cash they spent buying war materiel from us in the years before Lend-Lease. Say what you like about Franklin Delano Roosevelt, good or bad… Read more »
Rick Randall
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4 years 6 months ago
Well, there are ways to get cash in the hands of someone you wish to buy weapons from you, but whom you are forbidden by law to offer credit to. . . without eating up their cash reserves. Bases for destroyers, anyone? You could be even more generous, if you want — there is NOTHING in the Neutrality Act that required the US to BUY land at lowball prices: “Say, Winnie, I’ll buy that one acre sandbar for $1,000,000. . . coincidentally, that’s the same price as 5,000 Thompsons *. . . ” * Presuming they bought the Tommy guns… Read more »
Unix-Jedi
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4 years 6 months ago
“(Yes, I said ‘joining the war in Europe‘. United States men, ships, and aircraft were taking part in the Battle of the Atlantic almost six months prior to the Day of Infamy.)” Minor point of fact: earlier than that. I’ve got a great-uncle who’s told me stories of depth-charging U-boats in summer, 1940 – right, four zero – in the Carribean. Well, it wasn’t *intentional*, you know, but hey, look, that kinda looks like a submarine up there? Golly, I hope not, cause look at the clock, it’s time for a depth charge drill, that might cause a problem for… Read more »
Kristopher
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4 years 6 months ago

Wasn’t aware of the Neutrality Act.

It sounds like an evil law. If someone wants to loan a government that has not declared war on the US money, they should be free to do so.

Kristopher
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4 years 6 months ago

Oh and Randal, by that measure of “political skill”, Adolph Hitler was a better politician thatn FDR. Hitler Gained total control over Germany as the head of a minority party.

FDR had a solid majority, yet could not quite finish the transformation of the US into a socialist nation.

It is, perhaps, fortunate for us that FDR was not as skilled at politics as Hitler.

DonM
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4 years 6 months ago
Neutrality act was passed to prevent foreign influence in US politics, as was thought to have happened in WWI. Many US companies (Remington, Colt, Winchester) had contracts with Britain and Russia, and they pushed hard to get the US involved. After the war, the allies asserted that they had paid in blood, and didn’t want to payback. The US which had also lost almost a million (from combat and influenza) figured they had paid plenty in blood, and as IIRC Coolidge said “They rented the money didn’t they?”. The US was pretty cheesed off with Wilson’s war. So were the… Read more »
Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
4 years 6 months ago

Another positive- he didn’t go all nitpicky micromanager with the running of WW2. Contrast that to Hitler’s “that’s not a fighter, that’s a bomber!”, Churchill’s non-stop flow of goofy ideas, or Stalin’s parinoia of his troops loyalty.
FDR picked top guys and let them take care of business. Maybe because he was too busy buddying up with Stalin or planning his new United Nations…

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RES
4 years 6 months ago

Nyahh – FDR didn’t spend his time designing the UN. He delegated that to a State Dept. flunky, most notably the Special Assistant to the Director of the OSPA (Office of Special Political Affairs), some guy named Hiss, Alger Hiss.

Joe in PNG
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Joe in PNG
4 years 6 months ago

Funny how his military wound up being one of the best in history, and how he screwed up just about everything else.

Rick Randall
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4 years 6 months ago
Because FDR had approximately dick-all to do with the creation of the US military. He pretty much ignored the military until it looked like war was coming (like pretty much most presidents), and then the professionals built a large short term military built around a solid cadre of long-service professionals (as they pretty much did every single prior war). We do things a little differently now. However, in the build-up days before America’s entry into WWII as a formal combatant, the long-service Regular Army, Navy, and Marine Corps took masses of civilians and molded them into soldiers, sailors, and Marines… Read more »
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Deena
4 years 6 months ago

Just passed that along to another blog (www.evangelicalsformitt.com).

BTW, hows Correia V2.4 coming along?

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mwcoleburn
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4 years 6 months ago

I grew up by Manzanar, the internment camp in california, It was brutal, 120 in the summer, families living in steel quansit huts. Winter was bitterly cold at about 4000′ on the east slope of the Sierra Nevadas.

That place gave me the creeps

Eric Anderson
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4 years 6 months ago

The Owens Valley can be harsh… I’ve walked around the “park” at Manzanar a few times. Not as bad as Dachau, but the vibes are similar…

Fritz
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Fritz
4 years 6 months ago

I’m voting Ron Paul. Sorry, but some of his ideas are wacky, but at least he isn’t a soul sucking leach like the others.

DonM
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4 years 6 months ago

Ron Paul was my Rep in Texas. He is just as big a leech as anyone. It was a big joke for us, he would put his earmarks in bills that were sure to pass, so he could vote against them. To pay for that, he voted with the Democrats on many issues (that didn’t have his earmarks in them). He always had some disreputable racists around him, and in southern Texas, the racists are very disreputable.

Fritz
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Fritz
4 years 6 months ago

Voting one party is stupid. The govt has an obligation NOT to let one side have all the cheetos…as for his earmarks; I have looked into some..and they were more in line with putting back what was in the original bill.

Matthew Butch
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Matthew Butch
4 years 6 months ago

Jeez, this earmark thing again? He put in earmarks because it was his own constituents money, so even if they were illegal taken from them, he might as well give it back to them. He voted against them because they were unconstitutional, but he knew they’d pass so he’d at least help out his constituents.

And there is ZERO evidence that he is a racist, or has racists around him.

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divemedic
4 years 6 months ago

You should read the book that I just finished:
December 1941: 31 Days that Changed America and Saved the World

It has a lot of reflections of the policies of FDR in it, and they are not flattering

Harm
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Harm
4 years 6 months ago

I grew up in Arizona about two hours south of the largest Japanese Internment camps. This is Phoenix we’re talking about so brutally hot in the Summer. The winter won’t seem cold to Utahans but its plenty cold, especially without the necessities of life, clothes, food etc.

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deadcenter
4 years 6 months ago

Don’t forget that both Stalin and Mussolini had to order their press to tone down their fawning over Roosevelt lest it lead unfavorable feelings towards him during the next election.

Also, Roosevelt learned his manipulating abilities from Wilson when it came to getting the isolationist US ready for war as he was appointed Asst. Secretary of the Navy by Wilson in 1913.

The Forgotten Man is a terrific book on the history of the period.

michaelzwilliamson
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4 years 6 months ago

He also greatly expanded the eugenics programs, to sterilize “inferior” genes. Then there was tagging the FBI to spy on waitresses who talked to servicemen in case they were German spies or prostitutes.

How was he different from Cousin Adolph again?

Oh, right–our Constitution worked. Barely.

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RES
4 years 6 months ago

FDR’s economic policy flaws in six minutes, with decolletage:

The New Deal Was A Failure: Hoover and FDR Prolonged the Great Depression with Big Government
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWAgt_YCNuw ]

JFM
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JFM
4 years 6 months ago

” Newt says he is conservative, so that be would like somebody saying they are Christian, but their favorite angel is Lucifer”

You know, I wouldn’t be suprised if Lucifer WAS Newt’s favorite angel

el polacko
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el polacko
4 years 6 months ago

eleanor wasn’t a “frigid ice queen”, she was a lesbian. she wrote some quite passionate love letters to her girlfriend, lorena hickok.

RES
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RES
4 years 6 months ago

To be fair, from FDR’s viewpoint the difference probably wasn’t significant. I wonder how many guys, when imagining girl-on-girl porn, envision Eleanor as one of them?

Eric Anderson
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4 years 6 months ago

Naw, she’s not attractive enough for any normal male fantasies…

Justthisguy
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4 years 6 months ago

Yeah. Those teeth! (Hitler reputedly said the same about Hess.)

Fritz
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Fritz
4 years 6 months ago

Maybe she’s confused: Like a blind lesbian at a fish market:)

Quilly Mammoth
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4 years 6 months ago
Since we still see and feel the effects of FDR’s policies…policies that he continued to advance even when they were clearly not working…I’d say the quote “most effective Liberal Democrat President” in American History to be completely correct. Stalin and the rest of the villains mentioned in comments were pretty damn effective as well. Statements like that don’t mean agreeance with the policies. Ghengis Kahn was probably the most effective (greatest) leader in the history of the World (Alexander coming a close second but he died too young). And let’s not forget what caused the Weimar Republic to pull out… Read more »
Matt
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Matt
4 years 6 months ago
Wow, I googled the monster hunter series because I was trying to find out which book came first in the series and was hoping to read a couple of good reviews on it before i decided to buy it or not. Instead I find a right wing blog and a piss poor history lesson to boot. Much like most Republicans you take bits and pieces out of history and then twist them so it fits your world view, very nice, I see why you write fiction most often. I used to call myself a Republican but people like you who… Read more »
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RES
4 years 6 months ago
Dumb – you don’t Google to find out what order a series of books came out, use Wikipedia. As for taking “bits and pieces out of history and then twist[ing] them so it fits your world view” … actually, that IS what historians do, and based on the arguments presented it is what you do, too. For example, assuming Correia is Republican??? Based on what evidence? He sure reads more like a Libertarian to me, but I can’t recall him ever stating a party affiliation. You also sot the facts wrong on the Patriot Act, conflating it wiretaps authorised under… Read more »
Quilly Mammoth
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4 years 6 months ago

“First off no one expected the Pearl Harbor attack at the time” Nonsense, Admiral Bull Reeves was called out of retirement at the age of 69 in Hawaii in 1940. He was recalled to help assess how Naval Aviation would be affected in a Pacific war. Reeves, essentially, created US Naval Aviation. He was worried by Japan. He and others worried about an attack. He was _there_ when it happened. Shortly thereafter FDR transferred him to DC ot oversee the Lend Lease program.

I can give you many other examples. Need ’em?

DonM
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4 years 6 months ago

Billy Mitchell had warned of an air attack on Pearl Harbor, but he died before it happened.

The warnings from intelligence were interpreted as risk of sabotage, so the Army lines up their planes wingtip to wingtip, and doubled the guard. When the Navy spotted the first submarines and shot one of them, the Army didn’t know. When the Army radars spotted the planes inbound, they were unable to (1) recognize what they were and (2) were unable to get people’s attention.

The US had 7 aircraft carriers in 1941 (including Langley) and was well behind the 10 that Japan had.

Speaker to Lab Animals
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Speaker to Lab Animals
4 years 6 months ago

Great book – “Long Days’ Journey into War” – also goes into how the embargoes and other U.S. policies set into motion events which telegraphed the desperation of Japan. The signs were *all* there to see, even if now we talk about them in hindsight, there *were* indications that Japan would lash out at the one country they felt was most associated with their difficulties (and which they thought they could bully into neutrality, if not acquiescence).

Will
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Will
4 years 6 months ago
Matt: FDR damn well knew his actions were going to start a war with Japan. He may not have known exactly where or when, but there weren’t a lot of choices to pick for first strikes, and Japan hit them all. The reason was, we supplied 80% of Japan’s oil. FDR not only cut off all oil, he froze their bank accounts here. They had 18 months worth of oil in storage (IIRC), to run their country and military. FDR gave them a choice, collapse, or go to war against us and others. They were already grabbing land and other… Read more »
DD
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4 years 6 months ago

If that’s true, I hate FDR even more. Must ask gov teacher about this. She’ll prolly have some sort of rebuttal. I suck at debates!

divemedic
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divemedic
4 years 6 months ago

Matt- you are the one who does not understand history. FDR’s new deal had been declared unconstitutional. FDR threatened to expand the court to 15 justices, so that he would be able to stack the court with 6 more, thus ensuring that he could force his unconstitutional agenda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_switch_in_time_that_saved_nine

Jeff Jones
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4 years 6 months ago

“ever heard of hoovervilles or the Bonus Army”

This was so ironic I couldn’t help but laugh. Clearly Matt instead of googling for reviews you should actually read a couple of Larry’s books to get an idea of what kind of author he is. You might try a couple of history books too while you’re at it to find out just how effective the New Deal actually was, and what kind of leader FDR was.

And yeah as Larry said, Bonus Army was in 1932 not the early 20s.

justhell
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4 years 6 months ago

FDR was pretty bad, but I reserve my deepest loathing for Lincoln. Before the Lincoln War, my favorite Prez was Madison; from then until now, Cleveland, or maybe Taft.

Fritz
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Fritz
4 years 6 months ago

Andrew Jackson tops my list for bald outright illegality.

justhell
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4 years 6 months ago

Yah, but he was right kewl&manly, which covers a multitude of sins, as that pirate Teddy Roosevelt demonstrated.

Wade Garrett
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Wade Garrett
4 years 6 months ago

Item the first:
Whatever else you say about Theodore Roosevelt, he had the courage of his convictions. He resigned his position to lead troops during the Cuban conflict, feeling it was nessecary since he’d beaten the drum for imperialism so loud. Seen any of Bush or Obama’s stuffed shirts getting shot at in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Libya?

Item the second:
Some of you fellows need to read your Bible more. The name “Lucifer” is used as a reference to the king of Tyre, It wasn’t attached to the fallen angel Satan (as referenced in the Gospels and Revelation) until the Middle Ages.

Wade Garrett
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Wade Garrett
4 years 6 months ago

No worries boss. I come from a family of teachers and Baptist preachers, pompously correcting any inaccurate/imprecise statement we come across is what we do for fun. The holidays with at our household are a real always a real hoot…

And the item on Colonel Teddy was directed towards someone else. I highly recommend picking up “The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt” and “Theodore Rex” if you need to wash the taste of FDR’s writings out of your mouth.

DaveP.
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DaveP.
4 years 6 months ago

So hey. Looks like your choice is the guy who thought FDR was a great leader… or the guy who Obama thinks is a great policy wonk… or Ross Perot 2.0.
You go to elections with the candidates you have, not the candidates you want; to paraphrase some guy or other.

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Alex
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Alex
4 years 6 months ago

Newt may LUV him some FDR. I’d still vote for him over FDX Part Deux.

terresamonroe
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4 years 6 months ago

Hey Larry – permission to republish on NoisyRoom with attribution? This is awesome!

JFM
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JFM
4 years 6 months ago

Is it just me or does anyone else instantly think ‘Moron’ when a rebuttal post starts off with an ad hominem attack?*

*This is not a rebuttal post, it is just an observation. 🙂

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4 years 6 months ago

Nope- it’s not just you… ;D

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4 years 6 months ago

A president Newt Gingrich would make many, possibly most, wish for the return of Obushma as president.

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DD
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DD
4 years 6 months ago
Wow! Finally a source saying that FDR sucked! As a high-school student taking government class (with a gov teacher who just loves FDR…and Andrew Jackson…and Woodrow Wilson), it gets frustrating at times to look for sources to prove FDR’s suckiness. It’s also frustrating to try to convince my gov teacher of it as well. I mostly tell her I don’t think he was a good president because of the “court packing” (she replies with, “Everybody has their low points) and then I tell her he’s bad because of the internment camps (I forget what she replied there, but she still… Read more »
Jazzbeaux
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Jazzbeaux
4 years 6 months ago

I can’t stand your books but your ideologies, and their laspses into unavoidable juvenilia, are much worse..

Ask Icker
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Ask Icker
2 years 8 months ago

You sum up FDR’s contributions very well. He should have been hauled before a firing squad. This is why I call the “Greatest Generation” the Lamest Generation.

joem789111
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joem789111
2 years 7 months ago

I don’t really get the debate over best and worst Presidents. They all suck..period. The seat in the White House is equivalent to being the head of a Satanic cult. Anyone who takes the job is dirt. But keep this in mind. Society is founded on evil. Therefore, many of the fool conformists are going to applaud the cult leader. Only a few who know Truth and wisdom will have a different opinion. They all stink. That’s a fact.

Dave
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Dave
2 years 2 months ago

Truly stupid comments. And the anti-Lincoln comments are idiotic, as usual. The secessionists started that war. A little engagement at Fort Sumter.

Tom Scrwyoew
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Tom Scrwyoew
1 year 26 days ago

The American people are the real shitheads.

Mike Bromley
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Mike Bromley
1 year 26 days ago

And we are expected to believe all this shit? Trouble with most Americans is they were born upside down. The shit comes out of their mouth and they talk through their ass.

Len Aguado
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Len Aguado
27 days 6 hours ago

People don’t realize how much globalism and socialist programs progressed thus eroding the fundamentals of our Constitution. Thus causing more centralized power of Federal Government and therefore abuse of its power. Everything opposite of what the Founding Fathers fought against and did everything in their power to prevent. People are being manipulated and need to educate themselves on what is truth. Our last decent President was Coolidge. A Republican who wanted small government. As it should be.

George Kirby
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George Kirby
26 days 21 hours ago
I sort of think Reagan was the worst. FDR was a pragmatist. He was not an ideologue. It was a range of try and fix as the economy ran to nothing. Some of it was good. Some was not. Similarly, the stimulus during the last great recession stopped it from becoming a great depression. Overall, it worked and some of it sucks. Generally it should have been bigger and bolder because that’s just how the math works. GDP is the sum total of public and private spending. I do note there are a lot of demonizing of FDR by the… Read more »
George Kirby
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George Kirby
26 days 21 hours ago

Ha ha – I saw Len’s post and clicked on it. Didn’t realize this thread was in moth balls. Best to let this one die. Apologies.

BobtheRegisterredFool
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BobtheRegisterredFool
26 days 20 hours ago

FDR was a progressive. Progressives were deep into eugenics. Eugenics stems from the same technocratic tendencies that lead the Left to think it could change society to order.

Actions speak louder than words. It has not escaped our attention that y’all have been scrupulously supporting supporting Planned Parenthood in systemically targeting the urban poor.

The qualities that make a man rich or poor are not inherent in the blood. Targeted murders on a mass scale aren’t going to increase standard of living.

Socialism is exactly as politically viable in America as racism is.

60guilders
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60guilders
24 days 11 hours ago

Ah, George. You try to hide what you are, and fail so miserably. What’s it like to be a frustrated would-be tyrant?

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