Shoot Them To The Ground!! a video by Matthew Temkin, with commentary by your host, Larry Correia

Nightcrawler sent this link to me, and said that I absolutely had to review it. He said that it was one of the dumbest instructional firearms videos that he’d ever seen.  Mike assisted me in teaching quite a few pistol classes and really knows his stuff, so I clicked the link.  Ironically enough, I’d actually seen this video before at Justin’s Way of the Multigun  http://multigun.wordpress.com/2010/04/06/not-all-defensive-trainers-are-equal/   Read that first. And after reading that, let’s just say that Justin is way nicer than I am.

A little background, Justin and I were moderators together on The High Road. The creator/subject of this video is one Matthew Temkin, who used to post on THR with his constant arguments about the sheer, amazing, POWER of point shooting, or TOTAL TARGET FOCUS as he called it. He was obnoxious, and to read his posts, you’d think that he was the single most lethally fast gunfighter in the history of the universe.

Temkin went on and on and on about how amazing and fast his shooting was, and about how his was the best way of firearms instruction ever.  I had no dog in the fight, I don’t care how other people shoot. Personally, I like to aim. But if you didn’t do it Temkin’s way, then you were doing it wrong.  Sadly, Temkin would never actually shoot with anybody else, and there was no video to validate the amazing speed and tactical brilliance of his style…

UNTIL NOW!

Presenting, Matthew Temkin’s SHOOT HIM TO THE GROUND!!!!!!!!  TACTICAL POINT SHOOTING FOR THE 21st CENTURY!! Featuring Matthew Temkin as The Master, Rubber Man as Target Ted, and introducing Piece of Paper as Target #2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_LTexIQFAQ Watch and learn!

As your humble commentator, I will try to keep up with the awesome as it comes.  For the record, I consider myself decent with a handgun. I’m qualified Expert in IDPA, haven’t ever made Master because limited Vickers messes with my head in the classifier, and the times that I’ve tried USPSA, I usually score on par with the B class guys.  I’ve taught basic defensive pistol classes for years, and I’ve gotten to take classes from, or assisted several really good top-notch, been-there-done-that instructors. I’ve had the opportunity to associate with and shoot with some of the best shooters alive (and gotten my butt correspondingly kicked).  I just say that to illustrate that I know what a competent pistol shooter looks like.

And Matthew Temkin ain’t it.

Basically, the reason I throw that out there is that from what I can see in the video, Temkin really can’t handle a gun very well. I’m kind of embarrassed for him.  I’m not saying that there is anything wrong with not being a good shooter, it takes time and practice. I would never insult some random dude’s shooting who posted a video of himself for fun. But most mediocre shooters don’t try to pass themselves off as masters on the internet and then produce videos highlighting their mad skillz to sell. That makes them fair game for mockery.  

So here we go.

At 12 seconds in, Master Temkin demonstrates how to get the most from your ammo training budget.

At 14 seconds:  If you have shot your enemy in the abdomen more than seven times, and they still present a threat, you may want to rethink your target selection strategy. (hint, the vital organs are up here)

16 seconds: Target Ted “Hey, ouch, what the hell man? Quit poking me!” 

Okay, freeze frame and study this technique with me for a second. When being attacked by a vicious, murderous, killer. Gently place your off hand on their head, as if to tell them that everything is going to be okay. Then poke them really hard in the sternum with your gun, just to warn him where the bullets will be arriving momentarily. Don’t worry. At no point will the bad guy reach out and grab your firearm. Proceed to empty your gun into aforementioned bad guy.  Eat cake.

18 seconds: Freeze frame. Study that grip. Is his support hand putting any pressure on the gun at all? And this was a posed for the camera shot!  Imagine what his grip looks like when he’s under pressure. No wonder Master Temkin mostly shoots with one hand.

20 seconds: Oh, never mind.

22 seconds: That is your idea of lateral movement? Stick your gun directly into the bad guy’s reach, and then sway back and forth rhythmically? Is that to hypnotize him?

Target Ted “I would totally snatch your gun away… yet… I’m strangely fascinated by your rhythmic swaying.”

26 seconds:  Study this technique behind the amazing Troma-level special effects of the title.  You’ve got a bad guy several feet away. So you extend your gun out and walk toward them while cranking off rounds. For some inexplicable reason, you start low, and gradually work your way up to the vital organs, and then shoot them in the brain, which is a vital organ on most people who didn’t vote for Obama.

I’m noticing a theme, and we’re less than half a minute in. If you can’t shoot good, get real close!

Uhm… Master Temkin. I carry a gun because I don’t want to get real close the to the person trying to murder me. Isn’t that a little counterintuitive?

34 seconds: Target Ted “Dude, why do you have to be such a douche?”

42 seconds: Master Temkin “Because **** you is why, Ted! Take that!”

1:02  You know, if you used those little square things on the top of your gun, you could hit stuff from further away… I’m just sayin’.  

1:22 “Where the hell is my holster? Why can’t I get my gun back in the holster?”   A sure sign of expertise is when you can’t get your gun back into the holster.

1:33 Target Ted “Hey, quit thumping me! Why are you such a bully? This is the worst summer job ever.”

1:50 Okay, did you catch that? Now if Master Temkin’s techniques were actually done at that BRRRRP speed, then we might have something here. But instead, he’s pathetically slow.  No, seriously. I could take an average person that’s never shot a gun before, and after one day of instruction, they would be able to draw, take a two handed grip, move AWAY from the bad guy, AIM and successfully engage a target faster than Temkin’s What The ****?! Technique of getting closer to the source of murder while ballistically masturbating.

2:00 Aaaaannnnd… HOLD!  You’ve got to keep the gun there for a second. Just to let the bad guy know that he’s been Pwned like a little bitch! If Chow Yun Fat had just executed that technique, doves would have flown by in slow motion.

2:25  So the explanation of why I begin by wasting several rounds and seconds by shooting them in the abdomen instead of the heart is… huh?

2:41 That is not a quick draw by any means. Sadly, anybody who has shot one or two IPSC matches could draw, AIM, and hit a target at about three times the distance in the same time that Master Temkin does without aiming at bad breath distance.

I thought the whole point of Point Shooting was for speed?

What do you think the look on his face would be if the gun came out, and as he was sticking it out there the bad guy knocked it away? Heh. That would be hilarious.  And if you don’t think that could happen, please go do some force on force training, or role-playing, where instead of a rubber man with no arms, the target is a 6’5” 300 pound hyper-aggressive James Gandolfini look-alike.  The first time somebody removes your rubber gun from you, that whole “charge up and shoot the guy” loses some of its appeal.

I loved role-playing a villain in classes. I was totally the best psycho-rapist-kidnapping-lunatic-murderer EVER.

3:08 Ooooh. Multiple targets. This is good stuff.  Listen to his explanation of how idiotic police instructors are, by massively over exaggerating normal techniques. Then he proceeds to demonstrate his superior technique, by SLOWLY engaging two targets, by getting closer to them. 

You know, if my entire strategy was to just get close enough to hug my enemies, I think I’d just carry a meat cleaver instead of a gun.

4:17 Word of advice, Temkin. From one big man to another, avoid the unflattering polo shirts if you’re going to be recording a Paladin Press video.

4:20-4:26 A very leisurely shooting of six rounds into two targets.

Target Ted “I would so totally attack him if I had arms!”

Target #2 “Back off man, this is my moment to shine!”

4:30-4:34 We’re cooking now!  Yee Haw!  This was the best part of the entire video!

Sooooo… This is the technique you want to use if you are attacked by two elderly, unarmed ladies, who are unable to turn their Larks fast enough to escape your wrath. (The turning radius on the Lark is pathetic). 

4:40 Again. Oh, wait. That’s slow motion. I couldn’t tell.  It is fascinating to watch the wet noodle fish grip technique exercised by Master Temkin.  My ten year old has a firmer shooting grip.   

4:53 HOW TO ORDER! Because I don’t know about you, but I really can’t wait to get another 90 minutes of a large man, clumsily drawing his gun, before leisurely swaying back and forth as he shoots entire magazines of ammunition into a static target a foot away!

Let’s see what the publisher, Paladin Press, has to say. As usual, they’re in italics. I’m in bold.  

Most gunfights involving an armed civilian occur within the range of zero to three feet. My gosh! And if they’re not, you better run up there and get that close!  At that close-quarter distance, you’re not going to have the room or opportunity to push the gun out, get on the sights, and fire a perfect double-tap into your assailant’s “X-ring.” Uhm… Yes, because doing that would be soooooo much harder and more dangerous than walking slowly toward your target. So how do you end the threat, even at contact distance, without shooting yourself or someone you didn’t mean to?  Because not aiming makes not shooting people much easier!  In this video, firearms expert snort Matthew ”Stephen Segal Mountain Tiger” Temkin teaches you how to get man-stopping accuracy BWA HA HA HA HA at that critical close range using total target focus, also known as point shooting also known as handing your gun to the enemy while you spasmodically jerk the trigger. Taught point shooting by Col. Rex Applegate and the artist formerly known as Prince himself, Temkin shows you how to transform your body’s natural startle reflex when confronted with an immediate lethal threat into a method of close-quarter gunfighting suitable for military, police ,pizza delivery, porn star, farming dairy goats, or civilian application. Temkin emphasizes point shooting’s practicality by teaching the fundamentals: one- and two-handed shooting, burst shooting, turns and pivots, the combat drawstroke, proper targeting, and much more. This program won’t supplant aimed fire from behind cover, Dur, really? but is an invaluable part of any combat shooter’s arsenal.

In the spirit of fairness, and to cleanse your pallet, here is me during one of George Hill’s pistol classes.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viZtSMcYIOY&feature=related

Keep in mind, I’d rank myself as good, but no super shooter by any means. We’re starting at the same distance as Master Temkin. Only when George yells “Threat!” we move AWAY from the bad guy trying to inflict murder on us, while using our sights.  Out of three hundred rounds fired that day, I only missed  a handful of shots, and none on this drill.

So let’s see. I got my gun out in half the time, put just as many bullet holes in the bad guy, while moving in the direction to make me more likely to not die, and I AIMED…  Gee whiz. I should get me a snazzy polo shirt and make videos for Paladin Press!  (I did drop my head to reholster, but I’d picked up that crappy $10 nylon holster that morning because my regular holster had accidently been packed into storage for the move). 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSXb809jVSs

Remember Temkin’s rhythmic swaying back and forth version of shooting on the move? Here is me again, same pistol class.  With a performance that I’m frankly embarrassed with, but I was massively out of practice. This was the first time I’d shot in several months (and I got fat!).  I missed once, and totally flubbed it and didn’t hit the slide stop after the reload.  Yet… I AIMED, even while moving back and forth while the instructor yelled directions at me, (on the Back, the reason I kinda went sideways was because I didn’t want to get ahead of the other active shooter on the line, too many years as an RO has made that an automatic response on my part!).  Yet, I sill shoot better than Master Mountain Tiger, and I’m comparatively NOT THAT GOOD!  I’d have Paladin Press edit out the parts where I didn’t look perfect.

Jeez. I just had a thought. Those were Temkin’s promotional videos. That means those were the highlights. I’d love to see the takes that ended up on the cutting room floor.

You want to see a good shooter? These are good competitors doing a standard El Prez drill.  But Master Temkin doesn’t like competition, because it isn’t realistic enough.  I don’t even know who the first two guys are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAnnK63PqF8&feature=related   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbjc8AUTB8k&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS14CdHyJiY&feature=related

Okay, sure, those are competition guys, and Master Temkin would say they’re using “trick” guns. (hint, Travis Tomasi would beat your slow ass with a pointy stick). Here’s a true “Master” using a boring old Glock. (and he’s aiming)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkKc2w2sPxs  One personal digression. I did once beat Dave Sevigny’s time on a single event, at one tiny moment in time, on a simulator, but only because I had been the guy running the simulator at SHOT all day, and had shot that particular drill about a hundred times, but I’ll take it!

I’m not even against point shooting. There’s a place for it. Like when you’re attacked and the bad guy is right in your face. I’m a big fan of the speed rock, and do a presentation where basically you go to the speed rock every single time you dray your gun. But for anything outside of inside-an-elevator distance, I’m going to a two handed grip, and aiming.  Plus with a speed rock, I’m keeping my gun in tight and away from the bad guy, not handing it to them so they can kill me better. If I’m going to take the time to extend my arm, I can aim.

Here’s the ultimate example of point shooting vs. aiming. Though fictional, it is a great demonstration. (and even legal until the execution bit) The famous, Yo Homie Is That My Briefcase. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmKR6evZRQQ  Here’s the first random dude I found on Youtube searching for speed rock. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86rg-xQFmM Sadly most searches for Speed Rock bring up hair metal bands.

While you’re on Youtube in the shooting video section, you can click any random link of any random bozo on there, and odds are that they’ll be smoother than Matthew Temkin.

Basically, if you’re going to sell your technique on the internet, you should probably practice first.

45 Responses

  1. “Starting at the uh….belly. Yes, that’s what it’s called. Not the abdomen.”

  2. How appropriate that when Mr. Temkin speaks near the beginning of the video, the crickets are almost louder than he is.

    At first, I thought the cricket noise had been dubbed in as a way of mocking him, LOL.

    He sure is an ammo waster, for sure. Good luck defending that shooting method in court if you ever employ it.

    • Good point. Imagine instead of “I shot until I stopped the threat”, the jury hears: “Shoot Them to the Ground!”

      Fabulous.

      “Judge, what is the maximum sentence again?”

      • Q: Where did you learn to shoot?
        A: I watched a video called “Shoot Them to the Ground.”
        Q: Your Honor, can you please ask defense counsel to stop weeping into his hands like that?

  3. I did a little bit of reading, and according to Col. Applegate, (at least according to Temkin) you always aim at the navel because when you are shooting someone to stop them, you don’t want to look at the man’s face, because you might hesitate.

    I also love the Lunge shooting technique. So much panache.

    With multiple assailants, “They key to this technique is to move in to the target. . . ” – Man, that’s your technique for everything!!

    Someone buy this buy a khukri, because he’s gotten his weapons mixed up. Of course if you hand him a knife, he may use a two handed grip and start moving away from the target.

    • Lunging toward one assailant, you could maybe, maybe justify, but lunging toward two? Wow. Just wow.

      • The lunge is a proven technique, just ask Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald.

  4. Yaay! There’s a video of me on Larry’s blog! I’m an internet champion now!

    I am, as far as I’m concered, a mediocre shooter. That said, I’m completely confident I could put together and teach a better practical shooting course than the author of the video.

  5. The one thing he left out was when you run out of bullets, throwing the gun at the remaining assailants might make them flinch long enough for you to run away. Or use your BELTSWORD!!

  6. wow… i dont do competitive shooting or anything, but i have been shooting a gun since i was about 7… this guy’s insane…, we stopped charing at guns back in WWI… there was a reason “trench warfare” developed… so this guy’s 21st century technique is to reverse the machine gun charge that went out of use back in The Great War… without zombies (cant wait for Grimnoir Chronicals BTW)

  7. I’m usually a bit pessimistic and use to underestimate my abilities but I think that even I am a better shot that than Temkin bloke – shooting my brother’s .44 instead of my own Glock.

    There’s so much ‘fail’ in that video. Not to mention his gut. Sorry, I’d prefer an instructor who at least ‘looks’ fitter than me.

  8. In all seriousness, the sad and scary thing is that some novice shooter may actually use this as a learning tool. That’s going to get someone hurt or killed. That said, he does realize he has two hands, right? The only times I can imagine intentionally using one hand (barring injury) would be warding off an attack while employing said firearm or firing from retention.

  9. Please disregard my posting time and date. No matter what you have heard I do not own a time machine, so move along. Nothing to see here.

    If it is now after the 31st, I’m not sitting up late in my mom’s basement posting to random blogs.

  10. You know why I like this video? It’s definite proof that there is somebody worse than I am at shooting a handgun. Indeed, he’s WAY worse than I am.

  11. I never shot at someone but after growing up in a rough area I have had guns pulled on me three times and had a guy unload a clip at me in Newark NJ. He missed because I took off running and most people are bad shots. I may not have a Paladin Press contract but my actual experience says this is insane.

    Isn’t this probably an example of a con artist getting in over his head? He talked a good game on the web for years, and convinced someone to let him make a video. The problem with lying about you’re abilities is eventually someone will want you to demonstrate.

  12. I’ll be honest, I am not a shooter – as much as I’d like to be, life circumstances have never let me take up the hobby.

    That said, the last time I took the NRA Basic Pistol course I saw better and smoother control of a weapon by a classmate taking it for the first time. It disturbs me that anyone who looks that awkward with a weapon could possibly get a deal to teach people how to shoot.

  13. Wow, just wow.

    I’ve had lots of hand to weapon training. I’ve done disarmament drills at 7 feet no problem, which from the video looks farther than what Temkin was starting his engagements at.

    This isn’t even useful in MOUT, which is about the only time I can even think that your would want to close with the enemy with a pistol.

  14. where instead of a rubber man with no arms, the target is a 6’5” 300 pound hyper-aggressive James Gandolfini look-alike.

    Someone called my name? :) (And I’m totally down to 265 now.) ;)

  15. When is Tom Stranger going to get his Paladin Press contract? Now that, I’d pay to watch.

    An overweight nobody executing dubious techniques poorly, on the other hand? I think not.

    But I’m a data-driven person. Let’s try it in force-on-force and see how well Mr. Nobody’s chosen methods stack up against more commonly accepted methods. How about a video reply, Larry & Nightcrawler?

  16. Um can somebody explain to me the shooting drills those other guys were doing in the links Larry posted?

    In a few of those drills I’m pretty sure I counted like two or one shots and then they changed magazines. What’s up with that? Don’t most guns have about 9 or 10 rounds in them nowadays?

    Plus how many rounds do you have to put through a gun until you are proficient in it’s use?

    • That is six shots, mag change six shots you’re seeing. They’re just that fast that it seems like less. The point isn’t how many rounds you’re handgun holds, the purpose is to imitate a necesssary magazine change and continuation of the fight. Some drills are specifically designed to incorporate a magazine change regardless of capacity of the magazine. Most times you will “down load” your mag to the necessary amount. Some drills are secifically geared toward repetitive mag changes just to work on your muscle memory.

      It isn’t how many rounds you shoot that makes you proficient. If you shoot 100,000 rounds with terrible technique, you are never going to be proficient. That is why any shooter that knows his stuff will tell you to take training courses no matter what level shooter you are. Larry could probably make someone technically “proficient” after a few hundred rounds, but you have to keep working those skills. People develop bad habits and get rusty. There are new techniques developed all of the time (good ones, not like this). I look for an instructor that tells me he goes to training classes as well.

  17. I’d like to see Temkin do some force on force training…
    LOL

  18. We had a first time IDPA shooter handle two target from retention today in less than half the time Master Gunfighter. He was ten years old. Bang-bangbang-bang.

    Rex Applegate has dug himself out of the grave and will walk the earth until he has his vengence on this dweeb.

    I would not want a dead Rex Applegate after me.

  19. I thought the video was a parody at first. Temkin is apparently serious about himself. Which means he is delusional. He will sell some people on his ideas,because he has complete belief in what he is saying…no matter the facts. I wish he would sell aluminum siding instead.

  20. A few years back I did John Ross’ CCW course… And got mildly chastised for taking too long to aim… That what I was looking to use a .45 for wasn’t “precision shooting.” And you know what? He was right. Pointing works… Get the first one out fast, crank that sucker back, lock it down, and think “front sight/target.”

    Went through a few cases of Wolf that summer…

  21. bogie,My BIL liles shooting fro the hip and can keep a coke can rolling at 30 feet with his SAA. I can’t. I was taught to move and shoot,using the sights. Since the people who taught me had survived some ugly encounters I will go with their advice. YMMV and good luck.

  22. I’m loving how he has to get the pistol out from under his love handles when he draws. Even my noob arse knows to carry where that isn’t as much of a problem.

    I would mention some of the other horrors of this video, but it looks like you’ve gotten them all for me :)

  23. Just imagine the confusion when two graduates of the “..to the ground! school of gunfighting” match up. Like two rams on crack when they collide.

  24. I called one of my officers in (8 years) to watch that nonsense and his jaw dropped. He had trouble believing that someone would actually pay for that video, much less take the guy seriously. Unless you have a darn good reason, why are you advancing into the threat zone ? Wjhy oh why would you not tuck your firearm in tight instead of handing it to the guy, and why would you advance into a double threat zone and allow the bad guys to flank you ? Over swing my foot. Back out, back out, back out, use 2 hand grip, use the friggin sights and move the muzzle a few inches to cover both threats, rather then swinging side to side several feet at a time.

    Did you catch where he almost lost his pants during the draw ? at about 2.54.

    On the Rex Applegate comment. I think if you research it, the Col. was talking about watching the center of the body for movement rather then watch the head or eyes. obviously works only if you are anticipating a possible attack, not already in an active fight.

  25. The mind boggles!

    Point shooting has it’s place and should be a part of one’s defensive shooting practice. But the “methods” (so called) displayed in that video will only serve to get someone using them killed.

    I can’t believe that Paladin Press would allow itself to be associated with that.

  26. Possibly the most damning criticism of Tempkin is the existence of one Rob Pincus. While I don’t always agree with Rob doctrinally on shooting stuff, Rob teaches a flavor of “point shooter” or Threat focused shooting that actually makes sense, and when you see Rob demo something he actually looks like he knows what he’s doing.

    That being said, I still prefer to use the bumpy things on the top of my gun.

  27. Oh, and that very first video of guys shooting El Pres is Jake DiVita. He’s a USPSA GM that for a while was trying to get a clean run at El Pres in less than 3 seconds.

  28. Two things about that video (I’ve seen it before).

    1) If I ever see Temkin point a red/blue gun at me (like he points it repeatedly into the camera), I’m going to take it from him, which should be easy since he likes to advance on a threat. And shove that thing so far up his behind that his droppings will have Glock branded on them.

    2) I sure wish I had all that ammunition. I think of all the shooting I could do, just with the ammo he wastes in that video.

    -Rob

  29. His technique seems based on watching action movies where the hero, armed only with a pistol, advances through the villain’s minions who are in cover and armed with submachine guns and terrible aim. The sort of terrible aim that lets you charge heroically through a door shooting the guy behind his desk and the other one next to the door who was pretty sure he had the drop on you. I imagine he’ll blame lag in the afterlife.

    Also, as the hero of an action movie, it doesn’t really matter where you hit your target.

    Then again, dumping half a magazine into faceless mooks where one or two shots anywhere would suffice is just so unsporting.

  30. I know I’m late to the party (yay, vacations!), but all I can think of while reading this is the scene in “Kiss Kiss Bang Bang” where the orderly takes Harry and Perry hostage, and Perry starts ruminating:

    PERRY: Harry, I was thinking some more about this reality versus fiction. Like in the movies, when a guy sticks a gun at some schmuck’s back and says: “Let’s take a walk. ” He’s got a hostage.

    HARRY: I’ve seen that movie.

    PERRY: In reality, the pros like about five feet of separation. That’s so the schmuck doesn’t take the gun back and make him eat it. (PERRY takes the guy’s gun away from him and turns the tables.)

    Five feet of separation. AT LEAST. Learn it, love it, live it.

  31. Super Shot Gun System – XRAIL from Roth Concept Innovations is soooo awesome

  32. Now that I have seen this video I feel cheated! I spent many hours furiously typing away at my keyboard arguing with this guy over the years. If I had seen this video long ago I would have known not to bother! I expect my e-battle adversaries to be worthy ones and if not that at least entertaining. Temkin is neither.

  33. ok i am a horrible shooter just gonna get that out there. I love shooting guns but i suck. However it seems counter-intuitive to me to move towards an assailant who probably has a knife or a gun their holding sidways (which has about the same kill rate as a knife does at a distance)

  34. I’ve been a member at The High Road since way back when (I’m Orthonym there) but fortunately I never saw any of this guy’s writings. I mostly used to post in Legal and Political, and was happy to be the last poster before the thread got locked. Yes, amateur Internet troublemaker, I am.

  35. What? No one has commented on my favorite part of all – at around 26 seconds in, he has both hands on his weapon and TAKES ONE OF THEM OFF AND HOLDS IT TO HIS CHEST.

    “I’m sorry, I was too accurate with both hands. Here, to show how cool I am, I will now shoot you one-handed! Ha ha!”

    I also liked the stab-your-opponent-in-the-chest-with-a-snub-nosed-revolver move.

  36. It’s unfortunate that you’d take a four minute promotional clip out of context, and from it, judge the entire video and the author.

    If someone were to take a paragraph from one of your books and conclude that you’re a poor writer across the board, I think you’d probably take exception to that.

    • Out of context? Those 4 minutes are his PROMOTIONAL videos. This is like a highlight reel to get you to buy the rest. This is the cream of the crop.

      As for your comparison, you’re an idiot. If you want a fair comparison to a sample of my fiction, it would be like you’d have to read about 30 pages, (afterall, that is 4% of the total) not a couple of lines, and since it was a promotion posted by Paladin, so it would be fair to use my best material. So you’d get to read two chapters of the best stuff I’ve ever written.

      If that is Master Temkin’s “best of” I’d love to watch the rest.

      Oh, and there is still that last issue… that if you do some of those techniques in real life you will drastically increase your chances of getting dead.

  37. I love this quote by Master Temkin in the video responses: “You have to remember that this DVD is to show concepts and techniques, as opposed to tactics.” Then why is “Tactical” in the video title?

  38. Yes, I’m late to this party but after reading the comments above, I’m amazed that my head was not on the pole next to Temkin’s.

    A little background about me is in order: I also posted on the High Road and was involved in many of the point shooting debates. I competitively shoot in IDPA, Tactical Shotgun, and local 3 gun matches. I couldn’t agree with you more about the IDPA Classifier and it is funny how some our sharpshooters consistently shoot at the same level or better than many of the experts. However, tactical shotgun matches are my favorite the more physical demanding the better. I want to be covered in mud or shoot a match in the rain to ensure my equipment works in every condition.

    I attended the first two days of the shooting of the video and shot the scenes I was asked to shoot. I was also disappointed by the promotional video and the some of the short distances to the targets. I also did not have any part in choosing the name of the video or the making of the promotional video.

    Although Matt and I are friends and we have trained together on numerous occasions we have different philosophy’s when it comes to point shooting. I advocate dynamic movement in close quarters gun fights but I differ from Matt that I advocate that one should not move directly at the target, unless it is the only direction available, and to move off the X to either the left or right at 45 degrees. Moreover, the sighting method used when involved in a defensive situation should be based on a sighting continuum. The urgency of making the shot and the distance to the target should dictate the method that provides the necessary input in order to achieve adequate hits on the target.

    What tends to get lost in videos and endless debate on the internet is that point shooting is not a replacement to sighted fire but a compliment to sighting shooting and should only be used at close quarters. Yes, I used both point shooting and sighted fire at IDPA matches.

    In closing, some of the criticism of the video is merited however the promotional video does not do justice to the overall video.

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