Gay protestors to descend on LDS General Conference in April

Apparently as payback for the passage of California’s Prop 8, homosexual protestors are going to harrass the bi-annual LDS general conference in Salt Lake City. The gay rights people are saying that they’re going to bring 200,000 people, which means they’ll get a couple thousand that the national news will then turn into 200,000. Kind of like the five thousand mom= Million Mom March.

The SLCPD is going through extra riot training. They’re really excited about having the opportunity to baton some drag queens. If we’re really lucky, the professional protestor class from Seattle will show up and start tossing Molotovs. Ironically though, this is Utah, not Hippieland, so that should prove really interesting. 

I could really care less about anyone’s sexual orientation, man, women, sheep, invertibras, farm machinery, whatever, but when you start harrassing people in my hometown, then that just ain’t cool.

I heard they’re going to be bussing militant homosexuals from the San Francisco area out to SLC.  I think this is an awsome idea. I know my father in law reads this blog, so I’ve got a suggestion. He lives out in the San Fran area. I think you and the MIL should jump on a Big Gay Protest Bus and get a free ride out here for conference weekend. Think of the money you could save on gas!

EDIT: I have no idea if this story is even true. I got this second hand.

28 Responses

  1. There really is no better way to spread “tolerance” (read: my way or the highway) than spewing hateful words at churchgoers! This will really help their cause…

  2. I haven’t heard anything about this, and I’ve got a number of friends who are active in the Utah LGBT community, so I suspect the only protesters at Conference will be the usual crowd of crazy evangelicals.

    In fairness though, the Church did make itself a target. They got financially and morally involved in a political campaign designed to deprive people of their rights, and now some LDS people are upset because they’re getting protested. Well guess what? If you get involved in politics, it’s gonna come back. And this isn’t anti-Mormon sentiment, by the way–I’d say the same thing if the Catholics had bankrolled Prop. 8 the way the LDS Church did and then bitched about getting protested. You can’t have your cake and eat it too, and the way that some (not all) members of the Church are trying to get religion involved in politics, and then cry victim any time someone disagrees with that involvement, is entirely hypocritical.

    • About the LDS church bringing protesting on themselves by getting involved in politics… well I think that statement is kind of hypocritical. They are just standing up for what they believe in, which everyone has the right to do. The “gay” community stands up for their beliefs all the time and you don’t see mormons out there at their gatherings protesting them. The fact is, Mormons don’t hate gay, lesbian or transgender people. They are all welcome to attend the church meetings. Anyone and everyone would be welcomed by the church with open arms, and I promise you would be met with nothing but kindness and love. They won’t judge you. They believe that we are ALL God’s children and it’s only his place to judge us. Personally, I’m far from perfect and I’ve done my share of sinning and every time I go to the LDS church they have done nothing but treat me with kindness and compassion. I absolutely love the way that they always try to make me feel at home and comfortable. One of the first things I noticed when I went to the LDS church was how humble they all are. They are not at all weird or self righteous like some people or movies try to make them out to be. They are the most down to earth and true church that I’ve ever known. I think that certain people just want to give them a bad rep, and I really don’t understand why.

      In fairness though, as for the “gay” community, and this is just one example, but getting together and having a PDA fest on someone else’s property is extremely distasteful and disrespectful. No matter who’s property you’re on. However, the LDS church is so kind that even after all of that they would still forgive and accept you into their church. As long as you come in peace, respectfully.

  3. “They got financially and morally involved in a political campaign designed to deprive people of their rights, ”

    Nick, you don’t have the ‘right’ to take something that has had the same definition for thousands of years of human history, and then change that definition and stick it in the world’s eye.

    I can say that a tree is a mammal, but pretty much everybody is going to know I’m wrong, no matter how offended I get.

    The LDS church in California never made it illegal for gays to cohabitate, or form contractually binding partnerships about anything, or dance to Its Raining Men in assless chaps, so exactly which of their ‘rights’ were being violated?

    And I’m not bitching about being ‘persecuted’. I don’t even know if any of this is true. Persecution is having an angry mob burn your house and shoot you, and we haven’t caught that for quite awhile.

  4. Larry: Were marriage solely a religious institution, I’d agree with you. But in the United States, marriage is also very much a legal institution, bestowing rights and privileges such as inheritance, hospital visitation, shared insurance, etc. Personally, I think the best solution would be to give both gays and straight couples civil unions and return marriage to its roots as a solely religious/moral/personal matter, but saying that gays can’t get married and thereby receive the same legal benefits as straight couples violates the 14th Amendment–Loving v. Virginia, which invalidated state laws against interracial marriage, showed that the legal benefits involved in marriage make it subject to Constitutional protections.

    As for persecution, I’m not saying that you’re the one crying about it, but if you look at letters to the editor in Utah papers and statements in news stories, it’s pretty evident that a number of LDS people are upset that gay-rights groups would be pissed at the Church for its active involvement in a political campaign. If the Church doesn’t want people disagreeing with them, they shouldn’t choose to involve themselves in politics.

  5. Well I for one would love to see Mormon police getting their chance to ‘use their batons on the protesters.’

    For you see we have these things called Video Cameras that will show them doing this all over the world. That will be just AWESOME for the church’s image.

    Please do.

    • About the LDS church beating people with batons: I don’t know who said that, but that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I don’t know where people come up with these things. The church would never use violence or purposefully hurt anyone, unless maybe in an extreme instance where they might be defending their loved ones or their own life or something. I know that most mormons wouldn’t hurt you even if you hurt them, with that whole turn the other cheek thing. And by the way, I have never seen or heard of Mormon Police.

  6. Last time I checked, we haven’t had a Mormon Police since the late eighteen hundreds.

  7. I don’t care if they’re liberal atheists to a man. If they use excessive violence in a state controlled by Mormons, it isn’t the gay people who will be blamed for it.

    And you can BET that isn’t what the First Presidency wants either.

  8. I just thought it was fun to say “baton some drag queens”. Some lines just make me giggle. It is kind of like saying “I’ve never met a transvestite I couldn’t take in a knife fight.” Even void of context, that’s a good line.

    Excessive violence? SLCPD and SD are about the most professional bunches I’ve ever worked with. I’m not worried about them.

  9. It does not appear to be true: http://urlzen.com/6sd

  10. I think marriage should go back to being exclusively a religious institution, the way it began.

    I think the state should perform civil unions, not marriages on any two consenting adults that wish it — same sex or hetero.

    Get married at church, get a civil union by the state.

  11. A state controlled by Mormons? What planet do you live on? I’ve lived in Utah all my life, and there’s nothing further from the truth. If the Church really wanted to “control” the state, it wouldn’t look at all like it does now.

  12. I totally agree with ScottyT. If this is about “legal” rights for hospital visitation and benefits then leave it up to the stupid government. The LDS church got involved in the issue because Gay rights activists were planning to sue the LDS church for not allowing them to get married in the temples. That’s like me suing the Jewish religion because they won’t let me get married in their mosque. Are you kidding me? And Mystic55 you must not really know a mormon police officer. Seriously girl, you’ve got some issues you may need to deal with, things just aren’t right with you and you’re anger towards mormons. What did they do to you? What pissed you off so bad to attack a group of loving, peaceful, good hearted people?

  13. Lisa, they actually stood up for what they believe, and talked about it, and put their money behind it; didn’t you know that’s mortally offensive nowadays?

  14. I just find the LDS church using government coercion to enforce a specific view of marriage so deliciously ironic, really.

  15. That’s nice that you all think that the LDS church funded the protest but in all actuality it was the members that funded the protest out of their own belief and money from their pocket that the protested and last I heard we still have free speech no matter race, color, or religion and as for you mistic55 get a clue and go back to Elementary because Utah isn’t ran by Mormons…

  16. I can’t wait to see the 200,000 gay protesters and the normal crew of mormon hating protesters – who hate gay folk worse than they hate mormons – go at it. It will end up being the protesters fighting the protesters.
    Simply awsome!!!

  17. My opinion: I don’t think the LDS church leaders are influenced by popular trends or current socially acceptable practices. Principals of truth are eternal and never change. The same truth that existed in the days of Sodom and Gamorah exist today. I think the leaders are more concerned about defending true principals and being able to answer to God with a clear conscience than doing what is socially popular today. If this brings on a little opposition and negative publicity, so be it. As we have seen recently, all these Mormon haters have actually created quite a movement of other religions coming to our defense which we don’t see very often. This has also created interest in the minds of many about Mormon’s and our values because we will actually stand up for what we believe and not crumble to popular opinion and social pressures. Regarding the protesters, if anyone thinks Mormon’s aren’t used to opposition, you better brush up on your history. A little gay march is childs play compared to what this people has been through.

    • Kelly: I couldn’t have said it better. Your post was right on. The LDS church leaders aren’t influenced by popular demand or current socially acceptable practices. The same truth that existed in the days of Sodom and Gamorah will always be the truth. I think some people should look up Sodom and Gamorah, maybe learn something from it. God’s truth will never change. Especially not just to suit popular opinion. I especially love what you said about the leaders of the church caring more about defending true principles and being able to answer to God with a clear conscience than doing what is socially popular today. That’s exactly what I think about every time I’m faced with opposition or some kind of moral trial. I know in my heart that the only thing that matters is what God will say when I’m face to face with him someday. I’m always asking myself: “What would Jesus do?” And that’s the only thing that matters. “Principals of Truth are Eternal and never change”.

      • Personally, like the church, I would never change my moral values just to suit whatever trend is currently socially acceptable. And it’s wrong for anyone to treat someone else with disrespect because of their religious convictions.

  18. States do not “bestow rights”. Rights are inherent in people, and can only be taken by the state.

    The involvement of the state in the marriage contract is precisely that – a contract. The state gives certain things and expects certain things in return. It’s about the family, not about sexual partners. The state cares about promoting a safe environment for bringing new citizens into the world, and is willing to provide certain incentives to effect such.

    The “taking rights away” argument is sort of like saying that when an employer gives a bonus to a good employee it’s really a penalty for all the rest of the employees.

    From the perspective of the state, it isn’t about love. The state could hardly care less whether or not two people love each other. Even if it did, it has no way objective way to detect or measure love.

    There are many dangers associated with changing the marriage contract to include gay and lesbian partners. One is that it degrades the value of marriage for the purpose of raising a family, meaning people won’t care whether or not they are married when they bring children into the world, or whether or not they stay together afterwards. It also creates a mechanism whereby the state could legally force children to be indoctrinated in homosexual practices, pass and enforce hate crimes laws with respect to expressing opinions on the morality of gay and lesbian sexual activity, and ban from performing marriages those people and institutions that will not also perform gay marriages on demand.

  19. Mormons are a great people! They do a lot of good for people all over the world. They don’t hate, hurt or judge based on sex, race or religion. They are entitled to their beliefs, just as a gay community. Just like any group, there a good and bad people in it . Look at what they stands for. Homosexuals don’t want to be judged on their sexual preference. The LDS church should not be riotted agains because of their stand on Marriage! There are a lot of groups much more anti-gay than the LDS Church. I think you should stand up for what you believe in, but GET A LIFE! If you have nothing better to do than riott, protest, scream and yell, at a group that did not do that to you, than you are not helping your cause or your image. You are only hurting the gay community more and giving people a reason to hate you. It’s hard to hate someone for loving another person. It is easy to loose all respect and dislike someone for fighting, hating, and treating others with disrespect!

  20. The LDS Church is the wealthiest and most powerful organization in the world. They smilingly obey the laws of government to keep peace. Those who choose to speak or act against(violently or homosexually against the truths) will received their consequence from the most powerful, He who is head of the Church. Homos, beware.

  21. Is there any way you people can possibly be any more insensitive, inaccurate, and full of it than you are right now with these stupid, bigoted comments?

  22. Last time I checked the state of California had less than 5 percent who were members of the Mormon church. So why are the Mormons to blame for the passing of Prop.8? The “PEOPLE” of California, no matter what religion, voted for what they wanted. So quit crying.

  23. I agree with Nick (comments towards the top) as far as expecting retaliation for involvement. In my opinion, the church is represented much stronger when individual members come to consensus, rather than an official church stance. That way, the individual is exercising civil liberties, rather than awaiting what their church leader tells them what to do. We don’t have to have the General Authorities tell us what is right and wrong – where’s the agency in that?

    Of course, the LDS people have proven to be somewhat mindless with their voting in times past (it was up to Utah to repeal the abolishment of liquor (Amendment 21 negating Amendment 18)), and Mitt Romney was everyone’s favorite – everyone who received a “headline” political education.

    In short, I will always side with President Hinckley when he stated over and over, (summarized) “the church holds no political stance, but encourages each member to prayerfully study and then vote according to their own conclusions.”

  24. Gay rights activists are concerned about their “rights” being taken away, but they don’t care how many people they tromple over on their way. I personally judge right and wrong by saying, “What if everyone did this?” If everyone murdered, stole, commited adultery, abused children, picketed, protested, etc; the world would be a terrible, terrible place. If everyone were gay, the human race would cease to exist. It’s simple, I don’t deny that some men or women feel an attraction to the same sex. Paul said it best to the Corinthians, “God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.”

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